[Q] Juice Defender - Epic 4G General

I have heard good things about juice defender, but i have a basic question. It says it turns of data during times, or when certain apps are running, etc...
Now, is the data only internet connection? Or will it interfere with my ability to get texts as well, because that would be a deal break for me.

Data is only the internet. The only things that you'll be missing out on are e-mails, which will still come through based on your schedule set up and when you have your screen on.
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Heard so much about this app, tried it and took me only a few hours to remove it. When screen is off, it kills data, so basically apps like K-9 Mail that push my IMAP-idle email accounts and poll other accounts are basically impotent.
Plus the interface is confusing with a myriad of settings and no real hold on what settings stick or what not to set. I understand the concept of the app but it's not for me. With stock rom and mediahub-DRM-whatever-process killed off manually, i get by a work day with 50% left over on the train/bus-ride home, more than enough to do stuff before i get home.

I dave been using juicedefender for 3 weeks and it has maximized my batt an overall of 1.4x. The interface is confusing for those that don't spend time and learn it....its granular.
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U can set it to fcetch data on certain time intervals and u can get emails like that
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I'm totally happy with it - I'm getting a rating of around 1.7x to 1.9x I know I can easily go a full day on one charge. The default setting of enabling data every 15 minutes is enough for me - I don't expect to get emails that are time sensitive to the point where a maximum of 15 minute delay would be detrimental. And I play with my phone a lot so I'm usually waking it up to respond to texts and it reenables data then anyway.
edit: I'm not using any battery tweaks or DRM disabling stuff. I'm stock except for rooting.

You guys and this juice defender. you use more battery with this because it is always running in the background. i get 45 hours without juice defender or a task killer. 1 day of battery pleasssseee i could get 2 if it was left in standby or more. no drm removed. root, cwm, galaxy rom and kernel di18 & blue minimalism

Oh well f me... If you're getting 45 hours that must mean I can get 45 hours because, you know, our geographic locations have the exact same coverage and we have the exact same phone usage patterns. Wow I feel like such an idiot. Thank you. Thank you for showing me that juice defender, instead of increasing my battery life by a good 6-8 hours, is actually killing it by 21 hours...
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Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.

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That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.
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Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.

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Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.
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So for argument's sake, and because I wanted an actual test, I installed your setup based on you're post earlier, andromeda rom, no juice, etc. gmail and facebook sync off. I even went in 4 times throughout the day to turn off running services. I got 11 hours and that was with charging while I was in a vehicle. So I would say about 9 to 10 hours really. TWS was only at 16%. Display was the biggest battery drain at 82%.
So now that I've done this, I can say without a doubt, for me personally, juice defender is really extending my battery life. While running juice defender, I take my phone off the charger at 6am typically and when I go to bed at midnight I still have over 20%. And if I don't plug my phone in, I can wake up at 6am the next day and the phone is still on.
You have a setup that works for you, and I have a setup that works for me. In my setup, juice defender gets me through a 24 hour period without charging. Now that I've got the andromeda rom and kernel, I'm going to test battery life with juice.
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45 hours is meaningless when you just let the phone sit in standby the entire time. That's like the car commercials that list higher mpg than they get in the real world.
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I have juice defender installed only for it's two toggle widgets. With defender disabled it doesn't run in background, I take advantage of the data toggle widget and I've seen it save as high as 5x's life.

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Bad Battery Life

I'm getting bad battery using my phone. Can you guys recommend SetCPU profiles or settings, or do I need a new battery? Thanks!
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In case you've set a min/max something like 19 (min) to 768 (max), try setting the min quite a bit higher, like in the 200-400 range. See if that helps. Also, don't go crazy setting a whole bunch of profiles. In fact, for troubleshooting, don't use any so you can narrow things down.
245 245 works really well and doesn't make the phone take forever waking up
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My setup settings are:
Main-806max, 604min
Screen Off-480max, 19min
Battery 50%-768max, 480min
All set to on-demand
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TheSonicEmerald said:
My setup settings are:
Main-806max, 604min
Screen Off-480max, 19min
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Not specific to this topic, but I suspect you really see much difference between 806 and 604...
For your screen-off profile, change the min to something like 245. Just try it for a day or two and see what happens.
I too have poor battery life. We're talking down a percent every 2 minutes. I'm running the Droid does rom. I'm gonna try your settings and see how that works.
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My battery drains fast too. I stopped using setcpu. When I'm not using the internet I turn it off. Now my battery last a lot longer.
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Not specific to this topic, but I suspect you really see much difference between 806 and 604...
For your screen-off profile, change the min to something like 245. Just try it for a day or two and see what happens.
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im at 710/844 2**/4** with half decent battery life. but i do stil walk around with a charger
getting linpacks of 5.783 @ 844mhz!
Well a lot of you have seen my posts on this subject but the op asked so...
I have no setcpu installed, no autokiller. The Froyo ROMs are default set to 710mhz and I enable JIT as it helps battery life. You also NEED to calibrate correctly to see best battery life.
CGriffiths86 summed up my long winded version of battery calibration like this...
1. Fully charge the phone
2. Shutdown, boot into recovery, and Wipe battery stats
3. Reboot from recovery and use the phone as normal until it completely dies
4. Fully recharge the phone
With battery cal, no setcpu, and no autokiller, I get 27-30hrs on a full charge with solid use all day including bt music playback, navigation, calls, texting, and minimal web access.
The other settings I use are.
VMheap 24
Screen at 35% brightness
N2...
What about the other 2 settings with JIT? Do you have them checked or unchecked? Comcache? and Dithering?
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What about the other 2 settings with JIT? Do you have them checked or unchecked? Comcache? and Dithering?
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I dont use compcache (although I have read that it works well with FROYO based ROMS), and I dont enable surface dithering (doesnt add that much crispness to the display to me and takes away from processing power). I dont believe either of these settings will have much impact on battery life though so try them out and if things are still as snappy as you want then MPTY.
oh yeah try turning off auto sync it helps me a bit
Using CELB 2.8, I get about 24-30 hours of battery life with a fair amount of usage.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...android-battery-life-should-last-a-day-690439 when Page made this comment, I was at the time convinced that my phone itself was to blame and quite incredulous with regard to his statement. Turned out...he's right, at least in my case. I'd say stop looking at OS settings and focus on the apps you have installed.
I was having absolutely terrible battery life, even with this rom (though at version 2.5 or so), and couldn't figure it out for the longest time. The culprit turned out to be NewsRob, an RSS reader that syncs with Google Reader. I had it initially set up to sync every 4 hours or so, but the default is 1. Somehow, thanks to Apps2SD, when I flashed a new ROM, the sync settings reverted back to the defaults. I finally figured this out and changed my settings to manual sync and battery life has been epic ever since.
Another app that I think was causing some drain was Locale, as it's constantly polling your phone for data about its condition. I stopped using it altogether and am just out the 6 bucks, I guess.
And another thing that helped was completely removing AutoKiller from my phone.
Some more info on SetCPU settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6901762#post6901762
And this guy's very helpful post on general settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6957276#post6957276
Last thing, there's an app called JuicePlotter in the market which is really good at helping see trends in your battery drain. It's free.
lostsync said:
Using CELB 2.8, I get about 24-30 hours of battery life with a fair amount of usage.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...android-battery-life-should-last-a-day-690439 when Page made this comment, I was at the time convinced that my phone itself was to blame and quite incredulous with regard to his statement. Turned out...he's right, at least in my case. I'd say stop looking at OS settings and focus on the apps you have installed.
I was having absolutely terrible battery life, even with this rom (though at version 2.5 or so), and couldn't figure it out for the longest time. The culprit turned out to be NewsRob, an RSS reader that syncs with Google Reader. I had it initially set up to sync every 4 hours or so, but the default is 1. Somehow, thanks to Apps2SD, when I flashed a new ROM, the sync settings reverted back to the defaults. I finally figured this out and changed my settings to manual sync and battery life has been epic ever since.
Another app that I think was causing some drain was Locale, as it's constantly polling your phone for data about its condition. I stopped using it altogether and am just out the 6 bucks, I guess.
And another thing that helped was completely removing AutoKiller from my phone.
Some more info on SetCPU settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6901762#post6901762
And this guy's very helpful post on general settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6957276#post6957276
Last thing, there's an app called JuicePlotter in the market which is really good at helping see trends in your battery drain. It's free.
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This is gotta help a lot, thanks! And thanks to the other guys for quick replies!
With a full battery in the morning, o usually have about 20% left about now which is 10:53pm EST. I charged all night last night, wiped battery stats this morning as soon as I took it off the charger, and I have 52% right now! And I have used it more than I usually do. I don't know why that seems to have worked but I hope it does the same tomorrow.
Oh yeah, Setcpu set to 710 max, 245 min, screen set to manual brightness at 45%
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Go on ebay and search for HTC Eris batteries. For $15-20 you can buy 2 extra batteries with an EXTERNAL charger. I run my batteries to 15% or less, pop it out, put in a fresh (cool) battery, and put the dead one on the charger. No more carrying a charger everywhere I go or using a landline because my cell is about to die. Then your settings don't really matter. Even if you can use 3 batteries in a day, you'll have a fresh one (or 2) charged by the time you burn up the 3rd one.
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How I got 20+ hours of battery

Im able to run my phone for over 20 hours with sync and data on.
How I managed it:
1. Deleted almost every app
2. Flashed 8/25
3. Switched to Launcher Pro
4. Go to CyanogenMod Settings>User Interface> Automatic Backlight> Enable
5. Go to Spare Parts> End Button behavior > Set Go to Sleep
5. Wiped dalvik cache
6. Recharged to full
7. While at 100% charging, wiped battery stats
8. Unplug and let the phone drain to 0% (let it turn off)
9. Recharge and enojoy
If succesfull backup
Im using the stock kerned with NO battery tweak. I tried it but since I didnt see any improvement I took it out. 8/25 is amazingly fast with launcher Pro so I dont see the point in changing anything else to my Hero. Now I only install Apps that I really want or that wont keep my phone awake. I use pure calendar, handcent, beautiful widgets...stuff like that
Now after 10 months of use im really enjoying my HERO. I hope this helps those of you that are trying to improve your battery life.
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How I managed it:
1. Deleted almost every app
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genius.
they kept auto installing after flashing a new Rom lol
Im no expert but I figured I had to uninstall them before flashing
How I got 70+ hours of battery
1. Used CM6 Nightly
2. Used TweakTool(still in development http://tweaktool.com but it is the same as collin_ph's battery tweak essentially)
3. Used Decad3nce's experimental BFS kernel
4. Left 3g off unless I needed it
5. ????
6. PROFIT
I have 3g on all the time
The best I have pulled on my phone was 32 hours with twenty percent left this was with light to avg use with 3g turned off, unless o needed it....
I was on nightly 8/24 with uncapped kernel #8
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gurusux said:
I have 3g on all the time
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Why? You can use an app like JuiceDefender to set it to turn on every 5 or 10 minutes to allow updates and set it to keep 3g on when the screen is on, could save you some battery
Sounds good ill try it. Thanks
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Juice defender destroyed my phones battery life, even when I configured it all, it just drained, drained, drained.
Auto brightness is a waste of battery to me, i set it to 30% and forget it.
My phone makes it through the day, thats all I need. About 30% at 10 pm, off the charger at 7am.
Zardos66 said:
Juice defender destroyed my phones battery life, even when I configured it all, it just drained, drained, drained.
Auto brightness is a waste of battery to me, i set it to 30% and forget it.
My phone makes it through the day, thats all I need. About 30% at 10 pm, off the charger at 7am.
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Same here. With Juice Defender I was lucky if my charge held through my lunch break at work.
The biggest battery save for me is to turn off 3G until I have to use it. By the time I go to bed I still have 40-50 percent charge on my phone.
Tried juice defender for around 5 hours and didn't work. At 30% said I had 2 more hours left. During the first hour after setup it drained 9%. That's a lot. Uninstalled
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Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
strange I've always had good luck with juice defender. Lately though with how well cm6 is on the battery I've been setting juice defender to only shut off 3g when the screens off and turn it on every hour for 5 minutes to update. My batter life is pretty amazing right now.
tomatosoup said:
Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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Interesting. I want in! Love playing with new things and tweaking, sounds like your compiling all the best parts of the best battery saving tweaks. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this.
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Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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sounds great... cant wait......
man you must have a crappy battery then. all i id was turn my 3g off when i dont need it. I had wifi going, gps going(and used both quite a bit). Made a handful of phone calls lasting about 10 minutes each. i have 16/hrs 49/min since unplugged right now and im at 77%. I must be doing something different cuz i can have my phone off the charger for around 2 days and still have about 20% left before i charge it.
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Interesting. I want in! Love playing with new things and tweaking, sounds like your compiling all the best parts of the best battery saving tweaks. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this.
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Well really it's more of an upgraded version of the battery tweak featuring a gui and some other new things.
tomatosoup said:
Well really it's more of an upgraded version of the battery tweak featuring a gui and some other new things.
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Can't wait to try it! I am hard (IMO) on my phone 4-5hrs.talking maybe more 5-10 texts and my music running almost all day tho it switches off on a call,m lucky if I get 6-7 hrs out of it. I am in a truck all day, so charging is no problem. Thanks for hard work!
I'm currently sitting at 50% after 26 hours of battery life and medium usage... CM6RC1, stock kernel and collins_ph tweak
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Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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Put me on your tester list, please!

How To Get At Least 15+ Hours of Battery Life

Alright, so here's how it goes. I happen to be really anal about battery life, and if I come home from a 8 hour day and I have less than 50% of battery life, it just bothers me.
So, with a bit of reading, I have my phone set up to where I get almost 24 hours of battery life. So here are the steps I took to achieve that:
Have all the basics down:
Be on the lowest brightness (because even that is extremely bright) unless in extraordinary situations.
Always use wifi over 3G/2G and use bluetooth and the GPS as little as possible.
Also don't install any task killers - they do more harm than good.
1. Flashthe Bionix ROM. For those of you who haven't done it yet, you are missing a lot. The speed of ROM is incredible and has a lot of little tweaks that will improve battery life. Don't be afraid to root and flash these ROMS - they have been throughly tested and proved to almost always solve problems instead of creating new ones! Make sure to download the Bionix ROM that runs on the J12 modem. Pick it up here:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782027
2. Wipe battery stats!!! This one is without a doubt the most critical. I did this and my battery life increased by more than 2X. Make sure you follow the instructions that state:
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
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To do step 6, I had my phone at full brightness with Bluetooth and GPS on, with Pandora running all while recording a HD video. It drained it pretty damn quick lol.
3. Install Autokiller from the market, and apply the Aggressive preset. This will really lower CPU usage, and really speeds up your phone. This is NOT a task killer, this just allocates memory more harshly.
4. Install JuiceDefender, and have it enabled at all times... A lot of people have had mixed results with this. Mainly, it will turn of data while your phone is asleep, but turning data on and off is a battery drainer. Juicedefender will automatically recognize what settings will produce the most preservation of battery for your phone, so leave it at the default settings. It all depends on how often you use your phone, and what your data connection is like in the areas you reside. It does great things for most people, so I really suggest you try it out. Make sure you download the "battery" version and not the beta.
5. Have all apps/widgets that regularly stream information to the lowest interval possible. Let's be honest, you don't need your Facebook widget to be refreshing every 5min, so set it at an hour.
With all this done, I am at this very moment at 44% battery with a little over 13 hours of use. Even if I had my phone asleep the entire time, 24 hours is a lot better than what most people would seem to get. My day usually consists of 20min of talk time, 30 min of texting, 40 min of browsing, 30 min of gaming, 1 hour of music playing, and a bit of picture taking/editing. My phone is asleep for a long periods of time while I am at school. Yes I don't use my phone as heavily as some do, but if it guarantees me a full day of battery, I don't mind too much.
I don't really see how this can't work for others. We have the exact same hardware, and the exact same battery. You may use the phone more than I and pump out a few hours less, but still get over 15 hours.
Hope this helped!
nearblack said:
Alright, so here's how it goes. I happen to be really anal about battery life, and if I come home from a 8 hour day and I have less than 50% of battery life, it just bothers me.
So, with a bit of reading, I have my phone set up to where I get almost 24 hours of battery life. So here are the steps I took to achieve that:
Have all the basics down. Be on the lowest brightness (because even that is extremely bright) unless in extraordinary situations. Always use wifi over 3G/2G and use bluetooth and the GPS as little as possible. Also don't install any task killers - they do more harm than good.
1. Flashthe Bionix ROM. For those of you who haven't done it yet, you are missing a lot. The speed of ROM is incredible and has a lot of little tweaks that will improve battery life.
2. Wipe battery stats!!! This one is without a doubt the most critical. I did this and my battery life increased by more than 2X. Make sure you follow the instructions that state:
To do step 6, I had my phone at full brightness with Bluetooth and GPS on, with Pandora running all while recording a HD video. It drained it pretty damn quick lol.
3. Install Autokiller from the market, and apply the ULTIMATE preset. This will really lower CPU usage, and though it the most extreme of all presets, I haven't had any issues. This is NOT a task killer, this just allocates memory more harshly.
4. Install JuiceDefender, and have it enabled at all times... A lot of people have had mixed results with this. Mainly, it will turn of data while your phone is asleep, but turning data on and off is a battery drainer. It all depends on how often you use your phone, and what your data connection is like in the areas you reside. It does great things for most people, so I really suggest you try it out. Make sure you download the "battery" version and not the beta.
5. Have all apps/widgets that regularly stream information to the lowest interval possible. Let's be honest, you don't need your Facebook widget to be refreshing every 5min, so set it at an hour.
With all this done, I am at this very moment at 44% battery with a little over 13 hours of use. Even if I had my phone asleep the entire time, 24 hours is a lot better than what most people would seem to get. My day usually consists of 20min of talk time, 30 min of texting, 40 min of browsing, 30 min of gaming, 1 hour of music playing, and a bit of picture taking/editing. My phone is asleep for a long periods of time while I am at school. Yes I don't use my phone as heavily as some do, but if it guarantees me a full day of battery, I don't mind too much.
I don't really see how this can't work for others. We have the exact same hardware, and the exact same battery. You may use the phone more than I and pump out a few hours less, but still get over 15 hours.
Hope this helped!
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I would specify what settings you use on JuiceDefender, because it really depends on what settings you use and such. You made this guide to help people, so don't leave them wondering.
I would include other ways to save battery life, even if they have been said over and over, just so no one misses anything.
Also, with Bionix you will probably want to only recommend the JI2 modem, because it is not universally accepted that JI6 helps battery life, in fact it is quite the contrary.
Mark271 said:
I would specify what settings you use on JuiceDefender, because it really depends on what settings you use and such. You made this guide to help people, so don't leave them wondering.
I would include other ways to save battery life, even if they have been said over and over, just so no one misses anything.
Also, with Bionix you will probably want to only recommend the JI2 modem, because it is not universally accepted that JI6 helps battery life, in fact it is quite the contrary.
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I am running JI6 with bionix, and im running on 14 hours at 45%
DaSmittyman said:
I am running JI6 with bionix, and im running on 14 hours at 45%
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Good job. Proud of you.
Mark271 said:
Good job. Proud of you.
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lul, I added the JI2 bit to the post. You are right, that modem has proven to perform more efficiently.
Near black excellent
Near black excellent Written play by play well done !
I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
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I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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kizer said:
Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
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Aside from steaming pandora all day I'm doing all that too. Wifi always on, gps navigation, watching youtube/nfl app videos, twitter/email throughout the day, forums, etc. The only way I can kill my phone anywhere near that fast is hours of constant video steaming over 3g
Edit: oh, and angry birds all day every day, haha
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kizer said:
Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
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lolcopter said:
I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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Agreed, I moderately use my phone the whole day and I am left with 25-30% after a 15 hour day. Its not necessary to have max brightness, 3g, bt, syncing, wifi, tons of widgets on all day.
My secret was just getting another battery sent to me. The one that came with teh phone jus wasnt all that great. New one lasts 4 to 5 hours longer doing the same things.
I leave bluetooth on all the time. Never turn it off. Only turn on GPS when needed. And at work where i dont usually get wifi, i leave 2G on most of the time unless i need it to be faster for something, but most times, 2G is fine for tweets and emails. Of course it all depends on how much im using it. I use it if i have to. If the battery is lower than usual when i get home, who cares? I charge it up over night every night anyways. I'm not anal that way.
Most ive got for a day is 18 hours. Had 17 or so many times and had a little over 16 hours today w/ 10% left but plugged it in anyways.
My secret Is to leave the music playing overnight. With headphones.
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Lol. I have a HTC legend with stock rom and i just checked running time. I have one day and three and a half hours....at 55% battery
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thank you! I will try this out. =]
I wanna put Bionix on my phone so bad, but if I screw up and brick the phone, then no more Vibrant for me. :/ need a better job imo.
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I wanna put Bionix on my phone so bad, but if I screw up and brick the phone, then no more Vibrant for me. :/ need a better job imo.
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It's really hard to screw up. (assuming you have made it though an educational system successfully)
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It's really hard to screw up. (assuming you have made it though an educational system successfully)
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Hah, I think I'm taking this as a personal challenge. How about if I DO screw up you send me your Vibrant? Deal?
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Hah, I think I'm taking this as a personal challenge. How about if I DO screw up you send me your Vibrant? Deal?
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No, because this phone is unbrickable. You just need average reading comprehension and moderate computer literacy.
On a side note, the recommended autokiller setting is far too high. It kills anything after you exit out of it. (i.e. checking a text, it will kill the texting program after exiting) I lowered a few levels to see if I'll keep it.
added to the thread Mark. You are right, having it at such a high level will not only kill some running apps, but those apps will go onto restart, which kills battery. I think the "aggressive" setting is most suitable, or the lowest preset where your phone is still fast enough.
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Interesting...great write up.
So would you say Bionix is the the best ROM for the Vibrant? There are so many ROMS's out there and I can imagine how it would confuse the heck out of those who are looking for the best ROM available to date for our phones.
What are your thoughts?

Wow, the vibrant's battery.

I just switched from the G2, and I don't seem to be getting as good of a battery life. I just went down from 50 percent to 4 percent in 3 hours. Is this normal?
I don't think my phone is sleeping when the screen off. I'm kind of new to android, so excuse me asking, but how do you check if you phone is not sleeping and draining battery while idle? Is there an application or something to check?
One more thing, I just got the new update yesterday. I heard that it's not good to use a task killer, but I'm now using the built in task manager to close apps before I lock my phone seems to be helping with battery life. What are you opinions on this?
Check the battery thread, life seems to vary along among the Vibrants. A lot are reporting 11-15 hours of use before needing a charge.
I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper
Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!
Drm running. Go2 apps running- Apps & stop it
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Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!
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It is hidden pretty well. Haha. Menu > settings > wireless and network > wifi settings > menu key > advanced > sleep policy
I would change it to never sleep when plugged in. not just never sleep ever.
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I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper
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If you change WiFi to never sleep, it eats battery like crazy (at least for me, I'm bought with no data, and could barely last a day from when I woke up to going to sleep). With WiFi art to never sleep when charging, I only drain around 40% in an awake day (from when wake up to going to sleep).
Also, when I set WiFi to never sleep, my cell standby usage skyrockets.
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Extend battery life
Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.
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Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.
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1 - terrible advice - esp with JI6 having one built in (long press home).
2 - This is also in the General sticky
5 - try bionix 1.9.0 (or 1 if you want alt lock screens) and try JACs oc/uv - great battery life so far.
On average use I get close to 24 hours out of a charge using mostly WiFi and enabling no-sleep option, running Bionix 1.9.1 with stock kernel with JI6 modem. I'm also running LauncherPro Plus with facebook widget set to auto-refresh every 5 minutes, the most frequent setting for Google sync, and NoLED notification. I think that is very reasonable.
p.s. I do not use task manager since the operating system is supposed to manage the apps on its own.
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I use an app from the market called Y5 (free) to automatically shut down wifi if I'm in an area without it and back on if I'm in an area with it.
Works well for me.
My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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I use the living hell out of my Vibrant, and usually it lasts for about 4-5 hours. This being during playing games with brightness maxed, or streaming music over 3G and/or Wi-fi.
If I have a day where I am not doing the above, and just using my phone for emial and the facebook and gmail synching, I easily get over 10 hours before I hit 20%.
All in all I am quite happy with it's battery life. I have just learned to leave my phone on the charger till full charge after streaming music drains it to <20%.
I really should put MP3's on it and test how much that drains the battery compared to streaming.
Either way, I get better performance on battery and memory management then my old (work supplied) BB Bold.
My G2 definitely has more battery life than my Vibrant. That said, once you apply the above mentioned tweaks and especially with JAC's OC/UV kernel, and setcpu set at 200-1000 at conservative, the Vibrant battery life improves quite a bit. Still, its not as good as my G2. But not that bad either..
Keep in mind that the G2 doesn't have to power a billboard sized SAMOLED screen either.
Other than that flash on of Sombionix's ROMs with either of the new kernels and then recondition.
I get pretty good battery life because I don't have 3G in my area so I keep it forced to edge and I don't use bluetooth ever and wifi stays off unless i need it.
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My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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Ditto!
Fully charged on the way to work. On the charger less than 4 hours later with moderate use. No better after update. Was using a task killer with minimal improvement. Love the Vibrant but despise it's battery life.
Something is wrong. I just went 26 hours down to 19% before charging
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People, recondition the battery. It's easy.
Charge it to 100%, keep it plugged in and reboot to recovery, clear the battery stats, drain it all the way, then charge it back to 100% again.
You can start in the morning before work/school and finish at the end of the day. I've never had an issue with battery life on this phone. I can play 6 continuous hours of video/games on this thing and still have battery left.
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Also the g2 has froyo witch uses less battery then 2.1
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try juice defender it works great for me...
Can't get past "Reinstall Packages"
I am trying to recalibrate my battery after the OTA destroyed it, but every time I select to reinstall packages so I can get to the battery section, it looks for Update.zip on my sdcard, and it wont let me get any further. All I can do is reboot the phone.... any suggestions?

horrific battery life...help?!

Hi All
Once again thanks for watching my video and getting me tickets to MWC...but alas i have another issue. My Note has horrific battery life....practically about 8 hours.
I downloaded better battery stats and there are no major wakelocks going on...(just juice defender at 3.4% which i uninstalled anyway) ....any other ideas?
Any help would be appreciated, another Mobiler suggested i put a custom rom on...I'm just terrified of 'bricking' my phone lol
This is perfectly average battery life for stock rom with moderate to heavy usage but if on light usage you might have some issues. Here is my battery like with heavy use.
Don't pay attention to people claiming Days of battery life they are simply not using the phone.
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Battery life is certainly better than that on my old HTC Desire HD. Far better.
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Hi All
Once again thanks for watching my video and getting me tickets to MWC...but alas i have another issue. My Note has horrific battery life....practically about 8 hours.
I downloaded better battery stats and there are no major wakelocks going on...(just juice defender at 3.4% which i uninstalled anyway) ....any other ideas?
Any help would be appreciated, another Mobiler suggested i put a custom rom on...I'm just terrified of 'bricking' my phone lol
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Maybe you could post up your betterybatterystats results?
I was having the same problem. I have a lot of apps on my phone, and it was just draining while sleeping as far as I could see. My main issue was all the unwanted apps like the social and media hub popping up whenever they felt like chomping on my battery.
I finally gave in and rooted, and installed droidwall to prevent anything getting network access I do not allow, android assistant for its start up manager, and autorun to delete all 'event listeners' that cause apps to pop up when they like (and there are hundreds of these in the stock apps, I assure you).
I now have 50% more battery life, and it seems to lose a lot less while sleeping.
I installed the CPU speed set thingy (sorry, I forget the name) but I had the problem a few others seem to have because it drained the battery faster than ever while sleeping. I will try again after a few days. I screenshot the battery graph in full screen, showing the WiFi, wake & screen, every day so that I can get a good feel for historical usage and battery life.
I have an el cheapo battery (had two but lost one) for emergencies. I am buying a Samsung one instead (for a 'real' 2500 mAh), and expect to keep it on me at all times. That should take me through a day of pretty heavy usage. I also have some dangly 'add-on' chargers, but frankly a spare battery is neater, smaller and easier.
I have also bout a tablet (10.2" with 16GB) for $200. I fully expect to buy another - one for work and one for home. These will reduce my usage of the G-Note and leave it for actual use as a phone. The main problem is that I use it so damned much! I have my phone, contacts, all my To Do lists, email, audible books, textual books, surfing, games, etc all on one device. I also use it to type notes at meetings or the like using my folding BT keyboard. It does it all really well, but does not have the battery to cope!
I know there are fat batteries out there, but I do not want to spoil the beauty of my svelte Note by giving it a hunch-back!
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I also use Llama to control things like BT, WiFi and network data access when away from home or office. It does help, and means I don't have to remember to toggle. I tried Juice Defender as well, but its idea of turning on the WiFi at intervals saved my battery but seemed to make my email (IMAP) never download. I need to know when emails come in so that did not work for me. I may try it again at some point and try to make it work better for me.
Uninstall Juice Defender. I found my phone battery lasted twice longer after I removed it.
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Hi staceymobiler
Root n install the charks rom... woth v3.3 kernel
I vet past one day on single charge n its freakin awsome......
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I use my phone for note taking all day and into the evening! Screen and internet used for over 12 hours, constant use! (Screen on lowest setting)
After battery "settled" I get around 10 hours then pop in a second battery!
Took about 15 charging cycles though to get the 10 hours!
Anyway just saying it may take time! And a second battery is always safest
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that's... actually pretty normal battery usage if you're using your phone a lot.
my note is operating pretty much 18hours a day. A full charge is all i need, and by the end of the day, i get the critical battery notification.
if your note lasted more than a day, that's great. But with the amount of workload i am expending using my note, i wouldn't be surprised if continued usage of the phone would only last 7 to 8 hours tops. or much less.
and besides, the note can last for more than 2 days, if you didn't use it at all.
thanks for all the suggestions...i'm going to give rooting it a go this evening. Will let you know how that goes.
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This is perfectly average battery life for stock rom with moderate to heavy usage but if on light usage you might have some issues. Here is my battery like with heavy use.
Don't pay attention to people claiming Days of battery life they are simply not using the phone.
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Yeap, that seems like average battery life. If you notice (others) that his screen on time was pretty solid most of the time. That means of the nearly 6 hours on, I'd say about 4.x hours the screen was on. So that's good
I have managed to improve my Galaxy note battery life a LOT by doing the following:
- Disable Wi-Fi when not using it.
- Settings > Accounts and Sync > UN-TICK "Auto-sync".
With auto-sync disabled you have to manually open the relevent app to get the data, but for me, thats what I prefer, and it saves loads of battery life.
Used to be 8 hours or less with the above 2 enabled.
now 16 hours+ with the above 2 disabled !
Installed free version of Juice Defender 3 days ago, didn't do anything just keeping it on balanced mod and from now on I have extended normal battery life (phone, e-mails, sms, occasional internet through 3G) from 1 day to 2 days. What can I say ...
It works. When you switch into wifi, gaming or intensive document editing then nothing is going to save you, but just for having the phone in your pocket and using it as a "phone" Juice Defender delivers.
I noticed on the market that roughly half people say it is excellent and the other half is whining that it just sucks. Give it a try a decide for yourself.
Just turn auto sync off and untick "Use wireless networks" and you will be blown away by the battery life.
The last two days my battery was losing power too quickly compared to my previous weeks with my note.
So I thought it must be an app which I installed which is causing this. The only app I installed recently was Google + so it took it off and hey presto - battery life back to normal again.
You might say well it doesn't drain my battery with google+ installed but it works with mine as I tried re-installing again and it sapped the battery again.
Maybe different apps effect different roms, kernals etc...just a thought and something you could try with a recently installed app.
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thanks for all the suggestions...i'm going to give rooting it a go this evening. Will let you know how that goes.
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Hur, hur!
(sorry, that has different connotations downunder....)
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nickpimenta said:
I have managed to improve my Galaxy note battery life a LOT by doing the following:
- Disable Wi-Fi when not using it.
- Settings > Accounts and Sync > UN-TICK "Auto-sync".
With auto-sync disabled you have to manually open the relevent app to get the data, but for me, thats what I prefer, and it saves loads of battery life.
Used to be 8 hours or less with the above 2 enabled.
now 16 hours+ with the above 2 disabled !
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Just turn auto sync off and untick "Use wireless networks" and you will be blown away by the battery life.
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I can see that as an option, and I believe that all of those who report great battery life are doing much the same. My problem is that I want to be kept alerted to emails. I have tried Juice Defender, as it starts up wireless at defined intervals, but since my email is checking at other defined intervals, at appears that the email never gets through. I have to assume they never coincide.
I also like certain apps to sync, although I guess I could do that manually. Currently I turn on autosync while at home or work with Llama. Luckily the wireless and autosync toggles are in the notification dropdown as well - that is a wonderful idea.
I use the Note far too much, so (as I have probably said) I am getting a tablet. I hope that it will serve as my email notification when I am at home or work. When Llama knows I am at neither place, it can disable autosync and enable mobile data for me (which I keep off at home & work).
It is a delicate balance trying to get full desired operation and decent battery life. I am not sure it is really worth all the agro. I may just settle for a spare battery in my wallet and a dock/battery charger by my bedside. That is probably the easiest of all options! Then I can game away whenever I like without constantly checking the battery
Im using a custom rom rocket rom v21 with abyss kernel... which gives me a battery for 40 hours approx. With fair amount of usage. Sync off facebook app as it sucks a lot of battery too.
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In wifi settings enable the option to turn wifi of if the screen is off. That adds a lot of battery time. I get far more than 8 hours and i use it all the time with wifi etc.
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In wifi settings enable the option to turn wifi of if the screen is off. That adds a lot of battery time. I get far more than 8 hours and i use it all the time with wifi etc.
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Awesome! Been looking for this feature for awhile now. Only downfall is just remembering to switch it back when i'm using Pandora
A bit off topic but I experienced a fluke on my battery life, was just watching simpsons while I had my wifi connected and only had my yahoo messenger connected probably a total of 10-15 messages in 4hrs range, for 4 hours of screen time it normally drains 50-51% only.
I almost always have the same scenario when I watch simpsons on my phone, yahoo messenger running but it the first time to drain it like this.

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