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[Q] Juice Defender

I have heard good things about juice defender, but i have a basic question. It says it turns of data during times, or when certain apps are running, etc...
Now, is the data only internet connection? Or will it interfere with my ability to get texts as well, because that would be a deal break for me.

Data is only the internet. The only things that you'll be missing out on are e-mails, which will still come through based on your schedule set up and when you have your screen on.
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Heard so much about this app, tried it and took me only a few hours to remove it. When screen is off, it kills data, so basically apps like K-9 Mail that push my IMAP-idle email accounts and poll other accounts are basically impotent.
Plus the interface is confusing with a myriad of settings and no real hold on what settings stick or what not to set. I understand the concept of the app but it's not for me. With stock rom and mediahub-DRM-whatever-process killed off manually, i get by a work day with 50% left over on the train/bus-ride home, more than enough to do stuff before i get home.

I dave been using juicedefender for 3 weeks and it has maximized my batt an overall of 1.4x. The interface is confusing for those that don't spend time and learn it....its granular.
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U can set it to fcetch data on certain time intervals and u can get emails like that
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I'm totally happy with it - I'm getting a rating of around 1.7x to 1.9x I know I can easily go a full day on one charge. The default setting of enabling data every 15 minutes is enough for me - I don't expect to get emails that are time sensitive to the point where a maximum of 15 minute delay would be detrimental. And I play with my phone a lot so I'm usually waking it up to respond to texts and it reenables data then anyway.
edit: I'm not using any battery tweaks or DRM disabling stuff. I'm stock except for rooting.

You guys and this juice defender. you use more battery with this because it is always running in the background. i get 45 hours without juice defender or a task killer. 1 day of battery pleasssseee i could get 2 if it was left in standby or more. no drm removed. root, cwm, galaxy rom and kernel di18 & blue minimalism

Oh well f me... If you're getting 45 hours that must mean I can get 45 hours because, you know, our geographic locations have the exact same coverage and we have the exact same phone usage patterns. Wow I feel like such an idiot. Thank you. Thank you for showing me that juice defender, instead of increasing my battery life by a good 6-8 hours, is actually killing it by 21 hours...
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Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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guruleenyc said:
Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.

shinma6980 said:
That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.
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Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.

jbadboy2007 said:
Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.
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So for argument's sake, and because I wanted an actual test, I installed your setup based on you're post earlier, andromeda rom, no juice, etc. gmail and facebook sync off. I even went in 4 times throughout the day to turn off running services. I got 11 hours and that was with charging while I was in a vehicle. So I would say about 9 to 10 hours really. TWS was only at 16%. Display was the biggest battery drain at 82%.
So now that I've done this, I can say without a doubt, for me personally, juice defender is really extending my battery life. While running juice defender, I take my phone off the charger at 6am typically and when I go to bed at midnight I still have over 20%. And if I don't plug my phone in, I can wake up at 6am the next day and the phone is still on.
You have a setup that works for you, and I have a setup that works for me. In my setup, juice defender gets me through a 24 hour period without charging. Now that I've got the andromeda rom and kernel, I'm going to test battery life with juice.
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45 hours is meaningless when you just let the phone sit in standby the entire time. That's like the car commercials that list higher mpg than they get in the real world.
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I have juice defender installed only for it's two toggle widgets. With defender disabled it doesn't run in background, I take advantage of the data toggle widget and I've seen it save as high as 5x's life.

Battery

I was wondering how I could extend that battery life on my DINC? Any suggestions and tips would be great.

Ah yes, the battery issue. One I am all too familiar with.
Easy:
For whatever reason our phones charge to 90% and stop there. To correct this, you can either charge while the phone is off or do what we call a bump charge. Bump charging involves charging the phone to "full" while its on (the light should be green) and then turning it off while still plugged in. The light will then change to orange again for 30+ minutes and then green again. You will then Really be fully charged.
Also make sure you have GPS and Bluetooth off when you aren't using them. This will help a ton.
There is an option in Settings - Wireless & networks - mobile networks - called "enable always on mobile data". Unchecking this will drastically help save while the phone is asleep on the 3g network. However, doing this will affect how often you receive updates to chats and sync items when the phone is sleeping. To me it isn't a big deal since if I'm not using the phone why should it be working, but everyone is different!
Finally, a rogue app might be nomming away at your battery. An app from the market called System Panel will monitor how much battery each app is eating. Its free initially but if you want it to monitor over time in the background it does cost. However it is definitely worth it since its a great app and useful for any android owner.
Intermediate (has cost):
Evo batteries fit in our phones! The fit is a little tight but it works just fine. Our stock batteries have 1300mah of capacity which is a bit on the low side. The evo battery has 1500, so it's an hour or so better. You can buy them cheap off ebay (OEM Evo Battery) for around $15.
Conversely, there is the official extended capacity battery for our incredibles with a massive 2150mah. The trade off is that it adds bulk to your phone and costs a lot (around $50). There is the third party seidio battery which adds even more capacity (3500) but adds even more bulk.
Advanced:
Are you rooted? There are kernels out there that are undervolted like Hydra kernel, adrynalyne's undervolted and kingklick's voltage scaling kernel. Everyone has differing experiences with them so there's not a solid "best" so to speak. You can flash these kernels using the clockworkmod recovery. This will all be nonsensical if you're not into the Modding scene.
Also if rooted, you can underclock the processor which, depending on the kernel, can help drastically save battery. You can set profiles to have the cpu work at a minimum speed while the screen is off. Kingklick doesn't advise using setcpu with his kernels and it straight up wont work with hydra's, but it can do wonders on any others.
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Depending on your activity, you should expect 4-5 hours of 3g awake usage and around 5-6 if you're mostly on wifi using the stock battery. 3g can be a battery drain if you're in an are with inadequate service.
Hope this helps!
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turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%

isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!

If you are rooted and aren't comfortable with flashing ROMs and kernels, look at setcpu that was mentioned before, and search for instructions to remove the stock apps that always startup on their own in the background. Unless you actually use them, then you can't really do that obviously. I don't have any times on how long it lasted before and how long it last now but I do know its improved. I have mine at a processor clock speed of 500mhz and I don't see much lag time unless I'm really running a lot of things. I'm on WiFi listening to Pandora and I'm not experiencing keyboard lag while typing this.
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is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha

trembly01 said:
is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha
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no...the max it'll run is 1.19 ghz. worst that will happen is a bootloop which can be fixed through nandroid.
Just increment a little at a time. I usually run mine at 1.075 ghz w/ on demand.
screen off profile max/min - 450/245

I use JuiceDefender on my Incredible and believe it or not it really works. It's turns off your data while the phone is on sleep mode so no battery is being drained. I get at least 5 hours extra battery life. You also get other features that come along with it so just give it a try It's free!
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trembly01 said:
isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Yes system panel CAN be a task killer but I do not suggest using it as such. Instead, it does a great job monitoring how much CPU each app uses so you can take educated action.
MMBosstones86 said:
turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%
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1. If you use location based services and have GPS on, it will use the GPS module quite a bit. This is certainly a battery drain.
2. If you dont have any issues with always on mobile data then you must be in an area with good coverage. For me if its left on it drains my battery quite a bit because I'm in a flaky coverage area.
Everyone's phone is different though. Finding what works and what doesn't is the first step to perfection. I just installed the new skyraider sense and my battery life has been ultra fantastic. It works great for me, but I know others dont have that success.
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Wow, the vibrant's battery.

I just switched from the G2, and I don't seem to be getting as good of a battery life. I just went down from 50 percent to 4 percent in 3 hours. Is this normal?
I don't think my phone is sleeping when the screen off. I'm kind of new to android, so excuse me asking, but how do you check if you phone is not sleeping and draining battery while idle? Is there an application or something to check?
One more thing, I just got the new update yesterday. I heard that it's not good to use a task killer, but I'm now using the built in task manager to close apps before I lock my phone seems to be helping with battery life. What are you opinions on this?

Check the battery thread, life seems to vary along among the Vibrants. A lot are reporting 11-15 hours of use before needing a charge.
I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper

Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!

Drm running. Go2 apps running- Apps & stop it
Vibrant + xda app

JJG2 said:
Interesting, how do I go about changing the wifi to never sleep? I can't find it in the settings!
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It is hidden pretty well. Haha. Menu > settings > wireless and network > wifi settings > menu key > advanced > sleep policy
I would change it to never sleep when plugged in. not just never sleep ever.
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I read that it's good to put Wifi on never sleep (if you're on Wifi) and use a black wallpaper
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If you change WiFi to never sleep, it eats battery like crazy (at least for me, I'm bought with no data, and could barely last a day from when I woke up to going to sleep). With WiFi art to never sleep when charging, I only drain around 40% in an awake day (from when wake up to going to sleep).
Also, when I set WiFi to never sleep, my cell standby usage skyrockets.
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Extend battery life
Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.

oka1 said:
Couple of things I have noticed with this phone
1. Get an app Task manager or similar type apps. There are a bunch of them in the store and here. This will allow you at one click to see what is on in programs and better manage that.
2. Go to the Development section here and read the Bionix 1.9 Thread. It explains how to recondition the battery. Even if your battery is new it is good information understanding how the phone views the battery.
3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi and bluetooth. In the menu you can set the settings alot of ways, so you just have to experiment on this. (In home screen, hit lower left button and go to settings)
4. I use my email and phone ALL day (min 10hrs) and typically, I get 15-17 hr of use before it hits 10%
5. Finally, once you are comfortable with the phone, you can load a custom ROM from the Development section. The developers here are very through and Do squeeze the most out of the phone.
Good luck and you will love the phone as I do.
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1 - terrible advice - esp with JI6 having one built in (long press home).
2 - This is also in the General sticky
5 - try bionix 1.9.0 (or 1 if you want alt lock screens) and try JACs oc/uv - great battery life so far.

On average use I get close to 24 hours out of a charge using mostly WiFi and enabling no-sleep option, running Bionix 1.9.1 with stock kernel with JI6 modem. I'm also running LauncherPro Plus with facebook widget set to auto-refresh every 5 minutes, the most frequent setting for Google sync, and NoLED notification. I think that is very reasonable.
p.s. I do not use task manager since the operating system is supposed to manage the apps on its own.

oka1 said:
...3. If I am out of range or do not need, I stop the wifi...
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I use an app from the market called Y5 (free) to automatically shut down wifi if I'm in an area without it and back on if I'm in an area with it.
Works well for me.

My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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I use the living hell out of my Vibrant, and usually it lasts for about 4-5 hours. This being during playing games with brightness maxed, or streaming music over 3G and/or Wi-fi.
If I have a day where I am not doing the above, and just using my phone for emial and the facebook and gmail synching, I easily get over 10 hours before I hit 20%.
All in all I am quite happy with it's battery life. I have just learned to leave my phone on the charger till full charge after streaming music drains it to <20%.
I really should put MP3's on it and test how much that drains the battery compared to streaming.
Either way, I get better performance on battery and memory management then my old (work supplied) BB Bold.

My G2 definitely has more battery life than my Vibrant. That said, once you apply the above mentioned tweaks and especially with JAC's OC/UV kernel, and setcpu set at 200-1000 at conservative, the Vibrant battery life improves quite a bit. Still, its not as good as my G2. But not that bad either..

Keep in mind that the G2 doesn't have to power a billboard sized SAMOLED screen either.
Other than that flash on of Sombionix's ROMs with either of the new kernels and then recondition.
I get pretty good battery life because I don't have 3G in my area so I keep it forced to edge and I don't use bluetooth ever and wifi stays off unless i need it.
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N8ter said:
My vibrant is less 23% after being off the charger for 4 hrs. One of those hours was me driving without using it.
Something is wrong. Dunno if it's the update, but something is lilling it FAST - wifi ang gps off the entire time...
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Ditto!
Fully charged on the way to work. On the charger less than 4 hours later with moderate use. No better after update. Was using a task killer with minimal improvement. Love the Vibrant but despise it's battery life.

Something is wrong. I just went 26 hours down to 19% before charging
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People, recondition the battery. It's easy.
Charge it to 100%, keep it plugged in and reboot to recovery, clear the battery stats, drain it all the way, then charge it back to 100% again.
You can start in the morning before work/school and finish at the end of the day. I've never had an issue with battery life on this phone. I can play 6 continuous hours of video/games on this thing and still have battery left.
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Also the g2 has froyo witch uses less battery then 2.1
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try juice defender it works great for me...

Can't get past "Reinstall Packages"
I am trying to recalibrate my battery after the OTA destroyed it, but every time I select to reinstall packages so I can get to the battery section, it looks for Update.zip on my sdcard, and it wont let me get any further. All I can do is reboot the phone.... any suggestions?

Less then 9 hours battery life CM7

This can't be right...guys I have tried everything how can I get better battery??
I have tried Faux Kernal, dum fuqs kernal and the stock CM7 kernal... different batteries and the like. WHAT IS KILLING MY BATTERY???
This is the best result I have gotten so far, with dum fuqs kernal
Set CPU
Max 1209
Min 245
Scaling Ondemand
Profiles
Max / Min
Charging 1209/245
Battery < 50% 1209/245
Battery < 25% 1017/245
Battery < 05% 768/245
Temp > 52*c 768/245
Screen Off 768/245
All at 100% Priority
I'm not a power user, WiFi is almost never on and I don't do much web browsing. The main thing I do is bluetooth music while at work.
Also I have calibrated my battery, deleted battery stats and charged it while off thanks to the new CWM

What apps are you using that will be helpful as well also I hope your not using anytype of task killers.
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What apps are you using that will be helpful as well also I hope your not using anytype of task killers.
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No active task killers I just have System Panel installed monitoring and occasionally I use it to kill apps when the phone lags.
As for apps, mostly GMail and the Stock Email app (set up for a work Exchage account) Stock music player for playing to my bluetooth. CraigsNotification is running. I have Facebook set to the longest refresh time, use Gemini Calender for my schedule Pure grid calender widget. Umm google voice is set up for my voicemail but I rarely get those... Go contacts/Dialer for calls. Those are the heavy used ones I can think of. The rest are maybe once every other day usage.

i have my Gmail Sync on, Contact Sync on, Push Microsoft email, and auto brightness i drop about 2% per 4 hours. I wonder if the Craigslist app is killing it's searching alot.

Think it is probably your bluetooth music...try a set of corded headphones/earbuds one day/all day if possible and there should be a noticeable difference...

neidlinger said:
i have my Gmail Sync on, Contact Sync on, Push Microsoft email, and auto brightness i drop about 2% per 4 hours. I wonder if the Craigslist app is killing it's searching alot.
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I loose well over that an hour, something like 5-12% per hour!!
Right now I'm at 1 hour 59 minutes, and 79%...Android System has 44% of my battery usage

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Think it is probably your bluetooth music...try a set of corded headphones/earbuds one day/all day if possible and there should be a noticeable difference...
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I would agree, but like I said right now I am at 79% and 2 hours into my phone being off the charger, bluetooth isn't even on and I haven't touched the music as today is my day off... Something in my settings seems to be the culprit cuz Android System at 44% doesn't seem healthy.

I'm on CM7 and get about 12hrs battery life. My mods are as follows:
LauncherPro
Stock kernal
Bloat freezer (get this, freeze apps that may be killing batt. I froze ADW, HTC sync, and various others, just be careful with what you freeze).
Auto screen brightness
Average sync at 2 hours
Wifi on always (3g pulls quite a bit more batt than you'd think)
GPS on (only pulls when in use e.g. maps, navigation)
SetCPU:
Max 998mhz when above 80% batt (90% priority)
Min 245mhz when below 20% batt (100% priority)
Max 800mhz when above 60% batt (60% priority)
Max 998mhz when plugged in (100% priority)
These settings have all increased battery life significantly. I'm at 75% now and have been unplugged since 9am PDT.
Also, Bluetooth only pulls when in use such as streaming.
Hurled through the cosmos from my EVO4G to xda

I have a log file for current widget but I cant figure out how to upload it here to see if that helps at all so here is a copy and past:
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I don't know how to make heads or tails of this but I have a lot more from the log then that.

Ahh, I see. In that case, I agree with neidlinger that you may have a rogue app constantly running...

BT is probably not the issue. I had a bt headset for about a week and listened to audiobooks regularly without a significant loss in battery compared to a wired set. Must be something in the system or an app. Tried a full wipe and a fresh download of the rom?

darinmc said:
BT is probably not the issue. I had a bt headset for about a week and listened to audiobooks regularly without a significant loss in battery compared to a wired set. Must be something in the system or an app. Tried a full wipe and a fresh download of the rom?
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Tried that too :/

Download a app called watchdog, see if it gives an alert about a rogue app thats killing the battery life.

Watchdog is a good app. I've had some issues with it saying LauncherPro is an issue or even ADW. At one point it told me android system was a problem. Still, worth a shot.
Hurled through the cosmos from my EVO4G to xda

The new kernel gives me 17hrs I just charge while off. And when I drain the battery completely I wipe battery stats as well. I think it really helps.
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I dont use setcpu. I think it plays a part in a battery drain unless you have the smartass kernel.
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charlieb620 said:
The new kernel gives me 17hrs I just charge while off. And when I drain the battery completely I wipe battery stats as well. I think it really helps.
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What is your kernal version? I've got [email protected] #1 (who names this stuff??? lol)
Right now Im sitting at 5h 39m 18s on battery with
Android System responsible for 32% of my drain,
Cell standby 29%,
phone idle 21%,
Display 10%,
Voice calls 5%
Beautiful Widgets 2%.
Haven't used bluetooth today or streamed/sd card playing of music.
Also watchdog has not notified me of anything and I have it at Aggressive!!!! Only thing I have really used my phone for today is less then 50 texts and 5 apps had updates. Heck I even had Auto-Sync off for over an hour today! This SUCKS!!

that's bull****
looking for helping for my baby HTC Evo /:

evouser22 said:
that's bull****
looking for helping for my baby HTC Evo /:
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HAHAHAHA My thoughts exactly!!! And I have an RMA MyTouch so I flashed new EVERYTHING on it and still have the same issues so I know its not a hardware issue (3 different batteries too so yeahhhh...) I have gone all out on this messing with all the settings I can think of and I'm getting NOOOOOO improvement! My newest foray now is turning off the Google backup thing and seeing if that helps any. Anyone here use/not use that feature and see loss or gain of battery? I'm gonna try uninstalling SetCPU next but that seems odd to me as that program was the only thing helping my last phone (HTC Evo) Get well over 15+ hours!

What are the chances that the theme I have is causing the problem? Cuz I saw theme chooser is one of the things listed under android system and android system seems to be the killer of my battery. I use the Mixer v4 theme btw, its the most visual theme I have seen so far I mean it changes ALOT of stuff...

How to get epic battery life?

Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Because you use the phone and the others no! I have similar battery life. I get 3 hours screen on time.
Try cyanogenmod. For me is the best rom.

Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
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harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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I use the greenify app to hibernate facebook and words with friends it helps somewhat on battery life

I recently discovered that if I reduce the brightness down to 50% (which is still very BRIGHT), I can get an extra 30% battery life.
Simple, and yet, effective

Turn the brightness down - even 10pct is plenty bright indoors.
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Flash matrix kernel
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lowrider262 said:
Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks, I have now signed out of google talk. I only have one widget at the moment and that's the clock widget. It's annoying that everyone can get 3 or 4 hours screen on time and I only get 2

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
Sent from my Nexus 4

Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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lowrider262 said:
You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...

mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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It just turns radios off and shuts down syncing, nothing you can't do by yourself.
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mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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Well it basically learns your routines and changes your sync settings, turns WiFi on/off when needed, and various other things you could do yourself but might forget. Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck
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All those sounds are already off, that's the first thing I do
Thanks for that app, I'll try it to see if it helps.
curtzxion said:
Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
Sent from my Nexus 4
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I undervolted the hell out of my phone, at one time it was a -150mv undervolt.
Brightness was on auto, I've now switched to controlling it manually to see if that helps
gravitysandwich said:
Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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Tried his kernel already a few weeks ago. No real change in battery.

That seems weird
I am completely stock, and set things more or less the same with you (not syncing, no gps unless needed, on wifi all the time) and I could get over 4 hours screen on time on an 18 hours battery life. I believe this phone (chipset?) is really efficient on standby. Does your phone show that it's being kept awake much using the cpu spy app?

Same here... I'm on stock and the best i got was pretty impressive i think. 49 hours with 4 hours screen on time. I waited till the phone turned off by itself Even though i don't get that with heavier use, it's still enough to take me through a whole day which is better then my old phone
My battery saving tips:
-turn off everything you're not using (wi-fi when not at home or office/school, bluetooth, gps, low brightness indoors)
-swype away apps after you exit from them
-turn off the screen when you put it down/in your pocket etc.
-turn off google now
That is everything that i do. No sync disabling, undervolting, underclocking or other tricks

Install greenify app from playstore
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drbrainsol said:
My battery saving tips:
-swype away apps after you exit from them
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That doesn't do anything. Android as a native app killer. On the other side, this would lead to more battery consumption as Android would have to initalize data the next time you open that app. IMHO leave the apps as they are, Android would take care of them and kill them when required.
lowrider262 said:
Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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IMO it's isn't as powerful as tasker, but it's giving some extra juice.