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HSPA+ Question

For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)

I think you would have to load a custom rom or cab file for that. I still use the stock rom as well and only see 3g here in Tampa. Try doing a search.

i have a question live in nj and i know that hspa is in ny. i just did a speed test at speakeasy.net/speedtest and i got 3.29mbps download and 1.14 mbps upload. sorry i am a noob when it comes to this is this any good. not to mention tmo hasnt announced hspa in nj

i am also interested in knowing if angone does get an h cuz i only see 3g

whoiam06 said:
For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)
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Im in Tampa, one of the markets just officially announced as having HSPA+. HSPA+ was actually turned on here in Tampa last week. I had a Tmobile sales rep visit the company I work for yesterday and he confirmed it was turned on last Wed, I noticed the speed bump last Thur
However the indicator still shows 3g
I love how fast I can upload full 5mpix images to twitpic now, used to have to sit and twiddle my thumbs for about a minute or two. They seem to upload in about 30 seconds now. That was how I noticed the speed upgrade last Thur, I was literally like WTF an image has never uploaded that quick.

whoiam06 said:
For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)
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ariel123 said:
i am also interested in knowing if angone does get an h cuz i only see 3g
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The stock tmo ROM won't display an "H"...you'll have to install one of the many available custom taskbar icon sets for it to show that. However, I have yet to see any confirmation that having the "H" displayed on your taskbar means anything other than just the fact your connection (i.e. your closest tower) is capable of HSPA7.2 or better...regardless of whether it has the backhaul connection to support it or not.

And since my first Energy rom 2 1/2 months ago it's switched between 3G and H all the time, way before HSPA+. Now speed is the only gauge to know if I have HSPA+ or just HSPA.
I'm currently just out of HSPA+ range north of Seattle... 2 miles south I get 5.7mbps speedtests, at home still suffer with 900kbps even with H and 4 bars showing.

danog said:
And since my first Energy rom 2 1/2 months ago it's switched between 3G and H all the time, way before HSPA+. Now speed is the only gauge to know if I have HSPA+ or just HSPA.
I'm currently just out of HSPA+ range north of Seattle... 2 miles south I get 5.7mbps speedtests, at home still suffer with 900kbps even with H and 4 bars showing.
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I am going to guess that the ROMs that differentiate between 3G and H are probably showing 3G for UMTS and H for HSPA/HSPA+

so my hspa speeds are all over the place one Minute they are below 500kb/s the next they are over 2000kbs .. odd i say

hazard99 said:
so my hspa speeds are all over the place one Minute they are below 500kb/s the next they are over 2000kbs .. odd i say
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Mine seem pretty consistently in the 2mbit download 1mbit upload, but ive seen spikes as high as 5mbit for download. probably all depends on how good the signal is in your area and the load on the cell tower that you are on.

That's what I was figuring sirphunkee (outside of just downloading a icon set to show H). Thanks all for your answers guys.

for those with network signal (possible help)

just recently a guy posted about the *#*#4636#*#* code and changing network preference. well fooling around at work yesterday i tried it out and i picked "WCDMA only" and before this, i get prettu good 3g and H signals but very few edge spots (inside). after i selected that though my signal was still on H speeds so i didnt think much of it but its been 15 hours and ive been around and my phone hasnt even as much as dropped down to 3g. so maybe or maybe not this could help you guys out but i just wanted to give a heads up. try out for yourself
p.s. i also heard it helps with battery because your phone isnt always busy switching back and forth between network.

"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.

dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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There's a g for that
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dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H

johnxjets said:
There's a g for that
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Yeah. I've seen E, G, and H on my G2... granted I rarely ever see G. I actually thought it was a glitch when I saw it lol.

johnxjets said:
There's a g for that
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.

H and G only in West Texas
Out here we are still stuck on a 3G network. (No idea when HSDPA or + will be here), but NO EDGE, unless you roam... It is 3G/H or GPRS... It kinds sucks, thank goodness for WIFI..

bigstunta101 said:
no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).

I wanna get more replies and see from more people, the problem with me is, at school in campus the signal is really spotty, where I can even have 3 or 4 bars and be still on edge.
Another thing is where when the signal goes haywire, it will drop from either utms or hspa into edge and the data connection will just stop and it won't work unless I get the H. Its been happening for a week now and I'm up to a week on my remorse period and want to handle this before its too late.
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dronepop said:
Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
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What he said + if you do this and u get to were there is no 3g or 4g then you will get no signal because the phone isnt looking for an egde but only 3g/4g.
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dronepop said:
Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
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I think that they were saying for the OP to download that widget so that they will know when they are on HSPA+ or 3g. I'm pretty sure they didn't think the OP was already using the widget or they wouldn't have suggested downloading it.

Wheres my hspa???

I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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Were you running a custom rom? Stock doesn't/has never shown this for me. I get the slightly higher speeds I believe though.

Bspence415 said:
I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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3g = h.
h = 3g.
Only custom roms show H. But even if it "just" shows 3g, you're still connected to the same network.
It's like the difference between pancakes and flapjacks. Some people call em pancakes. Some people call em flapjacks.
In the end they're the same damn thing.

^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.

s15274n said:
^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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The distinction sometimes refers to basic UMTS, but at least in the United States, every UMTS tower has HSPA upgrades. The reason the distinction even started was because in Europe, there were many towers that were UMTS-only without HS[D/U]PA upgrades. That's not the case here.
On the other hand, now ROMS sometimes show H for HSPA+ areas. That is all fine and dandy, except that your Vibrant doesn't go faster than 7.2mbps HSDPA, or 5.6mbps HSUPA. It's not like when your phone is showing "H", that you're magically going to get faster speeds than your phone was designed to achieve.
So when it comes back to the OPs question, of "connecting" to a faster network, it's irrelevant. Once you're on 3g, it's all the same network. HSPA+ and HSDPA and UMTS are all the same network - just different data upgrades. And your phone will ALWAYS try to access the fastest data upgrade that it can.

Bspence415 said:
I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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it's depend on the phone i think. Before i switch to the vibrant (3G display), I used HD2.
On the HD2, i got H notification all the time. And speedtests on both phones yielded same results.

^^ great read, and I understood all of it... I just never understood why sometimes I got 3G and sometimes I got H in the notification bar, makes sense I suppose. I realize the same speeds were usually achieved.

Does G2 display hspa+?

Does anyone know if the G2 displays hspa+ in the phone signal? I only see UMTS or HSDPA and I live in Dallas which supposedly was one of the first cities to get HSPA+.
I've searched around but I have never found any concrete evidence regarding the issue. Fastest speed I've seen is about 6 Mbps, which I think is just standard 3G.
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907

You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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StockDroid said:
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...

When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.

naria01 said:
I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
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Which part of Dallas were you in when you got those speeds?
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papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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Surely you mean if it says HSDPA it's either on HSDPA or HSPA+ ?

imblacklife said:
Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha

Davidion said:
I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.

papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I was rocking a N1 before and it clearly was on HSDPA... This was months before HSPA+ was officially released in Chicago.

papeshfoo said:
umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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Is that so? My mistake then.
My phone almost never stays on G and if nothing else, is only on H and fluctuates to edge in some of the weaker signal areas.

G = gprs
e = edge
h = umts/hsdpa/hspa+, (3g/"4g")
g<e<h

Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.

SRed13 said:
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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That does seem pretty rubbish, if it shows "H" even on when you're on plain 3G speeds.

Just so everyone knows. This discussion is not about the H in the status bar. We already know it displays H for all high speed connection types.
It is about the network type displayed in the staus and how to determine if you ade on HSPA+.
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SRed13 said:
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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I do use that and I see 3G and H, but I assumed I would see H+ when it goes to HSPA+.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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Its showing me h all the time. My hspa+ speed sucks then lol I only get like 3mbps.
[G2/HTC Vision]

It will never say hspa+ just hsdpa
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I occasionally get HSPA+ from where I live and even then, my speeds are below 1 Mbps. At least the rest of you are approaching 3 or better, I'd kill for that.
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[Q] Tmobile 4G speeds?

I switched from Sprint to a Tmobile monthly 4G plan ($30 unlimited web) when I got my Nexus 4. I've noticed a few things, and wondered if anyone else has noticed the same (whether you are on the prepaid monthly 4g plan or tmobile contract).
In the status bar, it flips between 3G and H (I never see H+, al
though I'm not sure it even shows that).
Using the speedtest.net app, I've not gotten over 14000kbps download 1700kbps upload
Occasionally my phone will say "emergency calls only (exactly what it showed before I put the sim card in)", although it fixes itself shortly after. I believe this is because I get crappy coverage in my apartment
Are other people seeing this type of thing? Is this normal, or is something wrong with my phone and/or sim

Pretty normal from my experience.
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Same here except I have yet to see the 3g icon ever. Just H and E (when I was traveling to the mountains I had lots of E zones). Edge is terrible.
At work I get around 18-20000kbps and 2000 upload.
Why am I not seeing the 3g ever?

Never had that issue with the sim card not being recognized, maybe try a new sim? I get average speeds of 15Mbps download and 1.5Mbps upload. I see the 3G and H symbols often, rarely ever do I see the E.

Jackasaur said:
Never had that issue with the sim card not being recognized, maybe try a new sim? I get average speeds of 15Mbps download and 1.5Mbps upload. I see the 3G and H symbols often, rarely ever do I see the E.
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I only ever see H and E, I've never seen 3G. Edge speeds are between horrendous and non-existant. On H I'm seeing between 3K and 15K down, 1-2K up.

Atlanta, GA

tgm4883 said:
I switched from Sprint to a Tmobile monthly 4G plan ($30 unlimited web) when I got my Nexus 4. I've noticed a few things, and wondered if anyone else has noticed the same (whether you are on the prepaid monthly 4g plan or tmobile contract).
In the status bar, it flips between 3G and H (I never see H+, al
though I'm not sure it even shows that).
Using the speedtest.net app, I've not gotten over 14000kbps download 1700kbps upload
Occasionally my phone will say "emergency calls only (exactly what it showed before I put the sim card in)", although it fixes itself shortly after. I believe this is because I get crappy coverage in my apartment
Are other people seeing this type of thing? Is this normal, or is something wrong with my phone and/or sim
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You will never see the +, it will only display H. 3G is kind of like a battery saver mode(at least to me anyways). It seems to be there when the phone is idling. 14's not bad. Highest I get in my house is 6, lol. Outside in better areas I have seen 18.

Good to know that I won't see an H+, so at least that is normal. I should probably also have mentioned that I live in an HSPA+42 area, so I was hoping I'd see something in the 30+ range. I've tested this at different times (and different areas) each day over the past 10 days.
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Also just noticed this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016783 which showed me where to look to see some more information as to what I'm connected to (3G, HSPA catagory) under "Mobile network type" (in "About Phone") . Looks like I need to see HSPA:24 which means I'm connected to the HSPA+42. Currently only seeing HSPA:15, so I'll keep an eye on this when doing speed tests in the future. I wish the speedtest app would list this info when doing the test.
HSPA catagories
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access#User_Equipment_.28UE.29_categories