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If the Evo does 720P, Can the incredible?

If the HTC Evo can record 1280x720 video with an 8MP Sensor, can the Incredible do the same with some software trickery?

i would imagine so, theres lower spec phone cameras out there that do it iirc. It bewilders me why htc wouldn't add it by default.

maybe with a root?

I was wondering this as well since they have what appears to be the same camera.
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i hope so. it's weird HTC would leave this out. I hope some rooting can fix this. Maybe it will be able to do 720 output too through USB instead of 480

Right now it has difficulty doing 800*480 without intermittent stuttering. I'm not sure what's causing it, but hopefully they can get that sorted out and then add in the higher resolution. Of course, you do realize that you will never get great quality HD with such a small lens and short focal length.
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If the HTC Evo can record 1280x720 video with an 8MP Sensor, can the Incredible do the same with some software trickery?
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same chip so the hardware is there, just need the software.

Are you sure it has the same video encoder? You can't simply go on the Snapdragon name.

Really bad audio on video recordings :(:(

hi..i m currently using the native camera app to capture videos...video quality is very good...but the audio is crap...i was recording a live concert...not exactly a concert though...live music performance...the video turned out very good but the audio really sucked...
since the phones mic is the only source...i would like to know if there is an app that can record good quality videos with decent sound...?
Or is there anyway i can remove noise from the recordings using a software on the pc...any convertor that will convert the video to a format which will output the audio better.
P.S the audio is real bad...just not acceptable...its very hazzy and full of noise
Note : settings used were...720p..mpeg4 codec.
Please HELP !!

I second the OPs inquiry...

The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.

2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Award Tour said:
2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.

i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !

i too would love better audio

rstuckmaier said:
Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.
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My video camera is working fine for me....
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camcorder is fixed in cm7 lithid kang builds

techspark said:
i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !
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If it is so vital and you don't have time to flash a ROM, then march yourself to Best Buy or your nearest electronics store and buy a camcorder. Relying on a "phone" to record "vital" video and audio is not the way to go.

^^ camcorder is out of budget...already spent a lot on d evo..so need to wait a while to get a good camcorder...
[offtopic]do camcorders record audio better..or do u need to buy some production mic to get better audio on video recordings in scenerios like music concerts..? Are there some ports on the camcorder to feed in the audio thru cables etc ?

yes, the video quality is pretty bad even at the max settings. i've never been happy with it.
if you got it less than a month ago, and the video is THAT important to you, you should return the phone and get an even exchange for the Samsung Epic.
The video recording on the Epic is amazing. Even better than the iPhone 4. My wife has it and i'm totally jealous of her video quality, which rivals our flip camcorder.
Besides that, the Evo is a much better phone in almost every way.
but if you're specifically looking for an amazing camcorder and not much else, go get yourself an Epic.

i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?

techspark said:
i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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The point that you are missing is you are trying to use a phone as a replacement for a camcorder.

techspark said:
i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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Award Tour said:
MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.

bweisholtz said:
Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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which is why i want a Galaxy S phone on Sprint but no slideout keyboard...Epic without keyboard. Come on Sprint!

bweisholtz said:
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...

billyman said:
If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...
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Has very little to do with what he said. The iPhone and EVO use sensors from the same company. The difference is in product direction. Apple aims for quality, HTC aims for numbers. People expect Apple products to be easy and to work good; most of them don't have a clue what a mega pixel is or does. HTC doesn't have the same product positioning as Apple so they rely on marketing numbers to persuade people (3 more MP then the iPhone 4!!!). At least that's my view.

snowpunter said:
The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.
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Is this really true? I always though that whenever i recorded or took pics with a CM rom it look a little bit better pics or shot better vids than any sense rom just did not know it was ture, or is it? What makes it better?

one x camera application

is there any possibilty to tune-up one x's camera application with full functions to our DHD?
such as fast shooting, HDR function, panaroma function, snapshot during video, etc.?

Simple:
Fast shoting not posible. At least not as fast as x one. Because of camera chip. And the extra processor that is dedicated just fot picture taking.
HDR yes. But Don't expect any picture comperable with one x
Take a picture while taking video . Not possible must have at least dual core. Desire HD hardly keeps working with only videotaking at 720p.
The application itself could be ported but requires kernel 3 and special drivers.
SUM:In my opinion not worth a try.
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first of all thank you very much for sharing your opinion.
you may be right q&a section could be more proper for this kind of question, however everybody is focused on "expected ics update" very much in there.
I am using several programs for my camera demands, what I'm asking is a combined solution like hox's camera application.
Actually I tried so many roms with sense 3.5 and 3.6 however their camera applications are not flawless.
Some have panorama in the options, however they do not work as intended.
By the way now I am aware that it will not be possible to have that excellent application (with full working functions) on our old friend.
thank you...
Xeleth said:
First of all, this is not really the correct section for questions but guess this could lead into some interesting general discussion and theorycrafting.
As far as I know, porting the Sense 4.0 camera w/ features is not possible at all without the required driver information from HTC. Also it is certain that our phones' hardware-specs would not be sufficient for a complete user-experience even if there was a port available.
You might want to look into Sense 3.0/3.5 cameras for taking high-quality panoramas. ICS stock-camera is sometimes more user friendly but the quality is mostly a bit lower. Fast Burst Camera does what it says: takes multiple photos per second. This should serve your needs. Camera apps supporting HDR-effects or similar can be found from the Play store.
Taking photos while capturing video is still a bit of a mystery for me but my lucky guess is that the hardware limitations play a big role in this. Why not just take a screenshot from the media player? High Definition video quality (720p) should do just fine, you just need to use a Gingerbread ROM.
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Fatos said:
Simple:
Fast shoting not posible. At least not as fast as x one. Because of camera chip. And the extra processor that is dedicated just fot picture taking.
HDR yes. But Don't expect any picture comperable with one x
Take a picture while taking video . Not possible must have at least dual core. Desire HD hardly keeps working with only videotaking at 720p.
The application itself could be ported but requires kernel 3 and special drivers.
SUM:In my opinion not worth a try.
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Actually its NOT A DUAL CORE PRICCESOR issue. there are actually two camera chips in the sensor. I did my research
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Fast shooting camera with good quality picture.
Fast Burst Camera - http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spritefish.fastburstcamera
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DIY Optical Zoom Lens module with 1080p output

Hi Everybody,
I'm thinking about to create a hardware for guys who are interested in optical zoom lens.
I've updated the spec and demo clip.
I'm very familiar with AF(Autofocus) and I've some really great AF algorithm. I'm thinking to make a module which can do autofocus and leave enough interface to user to explore more applications with it. Here is brief spec for this project and if there are more people interested I'm going to make it to be a kit:
1. 18X Optical zoom lens with F1.8 aperture.
2. Encoding 1080p30 to SDCARD and output 1080i60 through HDMI or Component.
3. AutoFocus and Manual Focus. Controllable by commands.
4. Wifi is optional for control and remote live streaming. There will be Android apps for it.
There will be a lot of interfaces open as command set, controlling by UART, or USB interface. The hardware will be with metal housing which can be assembled to many places with screws and nuts.
Here is the link:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2HolwCY7kQ[/URL]
Any question is welcome at present.

Piqued my interest. I'm curious to continue

daytonka said:
Piqued my interest. I'm curious to continue
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It seems not too many people are interested. I'm feeling strange that there are so many camcorder sold with preset features, why nobody is interested to make it fully controlled by themselves?
For example, you can have your computer to control the camera to make it surveilance camera fully controlled by yourself. Our your cellphone to be another monitor and controller of the optical zoom camcorder......

I m interested
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I m interested
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Anything you expect from it?
In fact I'm collecting application and wishlist for it. Once the spec is fix I may want to start to get it to be something that's affordable. Well, lens is so expensive.

For DIY Optical Zoom Lens module with 1080p output
I‘m very interesting.Pls contact as soon as. mail:[email protected]

[Q] Nexus 4 60FPS 720P Video Recording?

Hello,
I have been reading around, and I found a thread in which people have been kernel modding and achieving higher quality and more FPS, but all the download links are broken.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159076
They seem to report success, but the thread closes inactively without any updates or links.
The goal is essentially getting 60FPS on 720P video, much like what the iPhone 4S provides.
I am wondering if anyone here has any information about this that they can provide? Is anyone aware of any mod or kernel mod that can provide 60FPS video recording in any mode for the Nexus 4? Surely the hardware is capable.

You do know that unless you use 3d recording anything more that 24 is an over kill, 29~30 to look smoother
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Of course I know that, but that only applies for general video recordings. I want 60FPS for a very specific use, to slow down the video 2.5x (to 24fps) while still being fluid for slow-motion recordings.
Such a useless response.

spider623 said:
You do know that unless you use 3d recording anything more that 24 is an over kill, 29~30 to look smoother
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Why there is always some idiot saying that there is no point of using 60fps ?
Like,.. always,... some F conspiracy or what

Can you upload sample video?
Edit: the post I was referring to, was deleted

ReCreate said:
Hello,
I have been reading around, and I found a thread in which people have been kernel modding and achieving higher quality and more FPS, but all the download links are broken.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159076
They seem to report success, but the thread closes inactively without any updates or links.
The goal is essentially getting 60FPS on 720P video, much like what the iPhone 4S provides.
I am wondering if anyone here has any information about this that they can provide? Is anyone aware of any mod or kernel mod that can provide 60FPS video recording in any mode for the Nexus 4? Surely the hardware is capable.
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hmm read through the thread that you had posted a link to, i believe that was a real screen shot at the end, it is possible tto film 720p60fps i know because my htc rezound that was released in november 2011 had the ability to film slomo video at [email protected] that phone was no where near as pwerfull as the nexus 4, so i know n4 can do it i would love to see the abilty unlocked in either a mod or an app

I also believe the screenshot was real. But file metadata is one thing and real video measurement is the other.
I think it is all what he achieved, and the rest is just trolling people.

ae1990 said:
hmm read through the thread that you had posted a link to, i believe that was a real screen shot at the end, it is possible tto film 720p60fps i know because my htc rezound that was released in november 2011 had the ability to film slomo video at [email protected] that phone was no where near as pwerfull as the nexus 4, so i know n4 can do it i would love to see the abilty unlocked in either a mod or an app
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Want to make a bounty for it?
I'll add $5 to that bounty.

ReCreate said:
Want to make a bounty for it?
I'll add $5 to that bounty.
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Yes I'm good for $5 maybe we can get some more people in on this. I'd like to see it work for both n4 and n5, but I'd settle for the n4, I think the n5 could do 120fps at 720p easy