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I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
Now someone here correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I understand the rooting process...
When you obtain root, you flash over your 2.1 OTA, and don't have that anymore. What you're flashing is a pre-rooted ROM with an old 2.1. You absolutely want to flash something else once you install the recovery image. If you want a ROM that's as close to stock OTA as possilble while still being able to overclock, I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044 (or, actually, this one is closer to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581)
Also, ensure that you can root in the first place... check your HBOOT version.
If you were to only root, you'd no longer be running OTA, since the root is itself a leak.
jcase's Plain Jane is based on the OTA and is probably what you're looking for.
No, you cannot do that. Rooting isn't simply turning on a switch, it's replacing the entire ROM.
chrikenn said:
I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
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Plain Jane ROM posted on this Forum would be ideal then I think
Ok, thanks for the information. I didn't realize that rooting itself replaced the stock ROM.
If you gave me your phone, I could root it and hand it back to you and with the "right" ROM, you'd be none the wiser.
Why are you afraid to use a custom ROM ? Ivan's, for example, is essentially a tweaked version of HTC/VZW's current Eris ROM.
I'm afraid to use a custom ROM because my instinct is that a custom ROM would be less stable than the default 2.1 OTA. This is my wife's phone, so stability is key.
But the ROMs that are essentially the same as the 2.1 OTA would presumably be essentially just as stable as the 2.1 OTA, so maybe I will give it a whirl.
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
drayon07 said:
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684049
Can't install custom kernal without root and can't root without stock 1.5. No root for ota yet
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thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Yes, the 2.1 OTA update is rootable. The 2.1 OTA update does not change the bootloader which allows for rooting.
However, those that got a refurbished device from Verizon with 2.1 may or may not be able to root. It has been said that some of the refurbished units have come back with the newer non-rootable bootloader.
There is an entire thread about this at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688898
Now that we are rolling on the official froyo release, what is the easiest lag fix to apply to it?
Yes, want to.know also. And the savest one.
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Voodoo
Voodoo lagfix, following the detailed instructions via project-voodoo.org, has been troublefree for me.
Oclf2.0 from market.cf root 1.2. Super optimized kernel.
Works like a charm...
what app/method do you use to root the device on 2.2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Seems to have worked for me. Although it was stuck on installing SuperUser, but I looked and it was installed and working.
Voodoo time.
Anyone got a good link to Odin3 please?
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Oclf2.0 from market.cf root 1.2. Super optimized kernel.
Works like a charm...
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can't seem to get either of the one click root's to work
RambJoe said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Seems to have worked for me. Although it was stuck on installing SuperUser, but I looked and it was installed and working.
Voodoo time.
Anyone got a good link to Odin3 please?
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I also got this - mine did not root however
I am using voodoo as it seemed the easiest. Quadrant ca. 1600 but most of the horrible lag has now gone.
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I've updated my galaxy s with the official froyo update(I9000XXJPP, buildnr. XWJPA), it was kind of laggy I think, so I wanted to use the voodoo lag fix. But somehow when I want to launch update.zip there is an error which says: signature verification failed.
Before the update, the voodoo lag fix did work(benchmark 1400)!!
I don't know what to do, I think my phone only got slower after the update!!
Benchmark 986
Please help, I'm not an android professional so explain in normal language
Thanks,
I've updated my galaxy s with the official froyo update(I9000XXJPP, buildnr. XWJPA), it was kind of laggy I think, so I wanted to use the voodoo lag fix. But somehow when I want to launch update.zip there is an error which says: signature verification failed.
Before the update, the voodoo lag fix did work(benchmark 1400)!!
I don't know what to do, I think my phone only got slower after the update!!
Benchmark 986
Please help, I'm not an android professional so explain in normal language
Thanks,
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I've updated my galaxy s with the official froyo update(I9000XXJPP, buildnr. XWJPA), it was kind of laggy I think, so I wanted to use the voodoo lag fix. But somehow when I want to launch update.zip there is an error which says: signature verification failed.
Before the update, the voodoo lag fix did work(benchmark 1400)!!
I don't know what to do, I think my phone only got slower after the update!!
Benchmark 986
Please help, I'm not an android professional so explain in normal language
Thanks,
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You can't use voodoo update.zip on froyo - check the voodoo homepage and use beta 5 pre 6 via ODIN.
need to be very careful with these things or you will end up with a brick.
(Fwiw its saying that because you are on 3e not 2e - still not the right process for voodoo tho)
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as dckiwi said please be very careful
you need to use Installation on Windows (For Voodoo on Android 2.2 AKA Froyo
see link here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BpoZycEkNHDr28bkUb1KdJy2xdQ7ZDowpHVMGpXheGc/edit?pli=1#
Don't panic, same thing happened to me. I'm no expert either however a research found the culprit. voodoo on 2.1! For some reason when updated to Froyo you can no longer do recovery zip updates cos of the voodoo kernel.
Go over to xda development and you will find a thread with a kernel that will fix recovery (do you can run voodoo again) as well as root 2.2
You will have to use odin which freaked me out at first but it's really easy
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So, which full lagfix (one that converts all partitions, including /system) is better for JPO? "Universal"? The one that makes 340 mb ram visible? Which? I've kinda lost track of all those fixes.
I have JPO with the TouchWiz Mod and the 341mb optimized speedmod kernel. I have no lag whatsoever. The phone never felt so smooth, not even with voodoo on Eclair. Just my two cents.
Jpo + oclf + cf root.
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My benchmark also sucks! With 2.1 and OCLF 2.0, my benchmark was 2300 and now on 2.2 and OCLF 2.0 it`s below 1800 and the menu it lags as a #$%&^^%$# If I go to the next page of the menu, it takes one second after my gesture until it really moves:S
Im very disappointed!!
Phandroid said:
I have JPO with the TouchWiz Mod and the 341mb optimized speedmod kernel. I have no lag whatsoever. The phone never felt so smooth, not even with voodoo on Eclair. Just my two cents.
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Did you apply any of the built in lag fixes?
I'm debating whether I should use something lower than JFS advanced because of battery life.
I have a quick noob question here and I apologize if there is a post on this. I have a rooted DX running the stock rom currently OC'd at ULV 1.2Ghz, I have previously ran fission and rubix roms and loved them both. My question is concerning any future pushes;
I do not want to receive the new OTA until a full SBF is leaked, will these roms disable the ota push. I know that when you attempt to check for updates it does nothing, does this also mean that when it is pushed from verizon that it will not even notify/recognize the update? I am a bit concerned about have a DX bricked edition.
also has anyone had issues using jrummy overclock app on fission 2.1 I was getting frequent reboots when even attempting ulv at 1Ghz however on the stock rom I can reach much faster at the same voltage.
gio2005 said:
I have a quick noob question here and I apologize if there is a post on this. I have a rooted DX running the stock rom currently OC'd at ULV 1.2Ghz, I have previously ran fission and rubix roms and loved them both. My question is concerning any future pushes;
I do not want to receive the new OTA until a full SBF is leaked, will these roms disable the ota push. I know that when you attempt to check for updates it does nothing, does this also mean that when it is pushed from verizon that it will not even notify/recognize the update? I am a bit concerned about have a DX bricked edition.
also has anyone had issues using jrummy overclock app on fission 2.1 I was getting frequent reboots when even attempting ulv at 1Ghz however on the stock rom I can reach much faster at the same voltage.
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From my experience with the last OTA, you will not be able to receive the next OTA update if you are running a ROM, theme, or have removed certain required apps. You should always make a nandroid right after any SBF, or upgrade, and be wary of updating to any release that doesn't have a full SBF available, just-in-case.
While I do have the Jrummy OC app, I haven't found a need to OC much yet, so someone else may be able to point you to a thread that has good info on that.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
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Yeah, Jrummy's apps aren't stable for my DX 2.2. The best, most reliable, and simplest OC app has been D2/DX overclock on the market.
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im trying to find some way to root this samsung can i root it with any samsung root app
2.1 or 2.2? Lots of development has been done at sdx-developers...
You can achieve root by flashing a custom kernel (such as CrapKernel), or do it manually and keep the stock kernel.. Flashing a custom recovery/kernel is most likely your best option...
step by step root for 2.1: http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php/topic,6920.0.html
for 2.2, there is a one-click, but again you can also flash custom recovery/kernel (probably a better option if you want more than just root, but all the fun mods/themes we have over there)
One-click for 2.2: http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php/topic,9943.0.html
z4root will give temporary root on the (stock 2.1) Intercept.
The Virgin Mobile Intercept pretty much comes with a 2.1 stock android and no garbage other than a few extra VM icons.
Not a bad android device considering the cheap price for the phone and cheap price(s) for VM service.
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z4root will give temporary root on the (stock 2.1) Intercept.
The Virgin Mobile Intercept pretty much comes with a 2.1 stock android and no garbage other than a few extra VM icons.
Not a bad android device considering the cheap price for the phone and cheap price(s) for VM service.
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+1 confirm. Biggest downsides are low-res screen and low internal storage, but overall it seems pretty nice for its price-point. I'm using z4root and Barnacle for tethering until 2.2 comes out in March.
5318008 said:
+1 confirm. Biggest downsides are low-res screen and low internal storage, but overall it seems pretty nice for its price-point. I'm using z4root and Barnacle for tethering until 2.2 comes out in March.
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This is exactly what I'm doing, as well.
bliind said:
2.1 or 2.2? Lots of development has been done at sdx-developers...
You can achieve root by flashing a custom kernel (such as CrapKernel), or do it manually and keep the stock kernel.. Flashing a custom recovery/kernel is most likely your best option...
step by step root for 2.1: http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php/topic,6920.0.html
for 2.2, there is a one-click, but again you can also flash custom recovery/kernel (probably a better option if you want more than just root, but all the fun mods/themes we have over there)
One-click for 2.2: http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php/topic,9943.0.html
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Thats how I rooted mine!
I use the Ubundriod rom with the newest crappy kernal, plus I custom made my theme to go on top of it.
Runs great on this really weak phone, lol.
i get conflicting advice re: rooting froyo,i rooted my galaxy s 2.1 eclair no problem with z4 root,but the htc seems a laborious process for such a bad phone,i only want to root it to speed it up from 523mhz to 733mhz,is it worth the trouble?or should i just give it to my girlfriend cos the internal memory is shocking in this day and age and that is with apps2sd installed,dissappointed..........
yes you can't
Why would you want to use the Wildfire as your primary phone when you have a Galaxy S in not understandable. (Only reason I see you want a 'small' phone). BTW, Froyo Apps2SD sucks. You need something like DTApps2SD which is 'true' Apps2SD. (That again requires root and a Custom ROM supporting it though)
Anyway, as already said, Froyo cant be rooted by software solutions. Only way is to get it done is getting it S-OFF using a XTC Clip box then using the Unrevoked method after downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App-my sgs is a bit schizo + need help restoring it back to some sort of usable state-tries flashing it via odin but whatever I done it wouldn't connect to any network at all + before it was flashed it was sim free,unlocked...any advice?
HAHAHAHAHA, I love the "If it doesn't do what I want, I'll just give it to my girlfriend " approach xD