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Root... Could this be true?

I just ran across this post at alldroid claiming they got root. I don't think this site has been around for too long... so I don't know if it is trustworthy.

Did you read the xda incredible upgrade forum ? Are they trustworthy enough for you.

jbh00jh said:
Did you read the xda incredible upgrade forum ? Are they trustworthy enough for you.
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My bad... forgot to look under the Android Incredible Development thread before I posted here..So, I guess they're trustworthy.

I have never rooted a phone before , what will this do for me to root my incredible , very interested to get involve with this !!!
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I have never rooted a phone before , what will this do for me to root my incredible , very interested to get involve with this !!!
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You will have endless women and money. It will also allow you to customize the phone and install certain apps you normally wouldn't be able to. If you familiar with the Windows phone world, it's pretty much the same as unlocking your phone. If you have to ask though, root may not be for you.

seanmcd72 said:
You will have endless women and money. It will also allow you to customize the phone and install certain apps you normally wouldn't be able to. If you familiar with the Windows phone world, it's pretty much the same as unlocking your phone. If you have to ask though, root may not be for you.
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^ lol
I have nothing useful to add.

I have never rooted a phone before , what will this do for me to root my incredible , very interested to get involve with this !!!
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You will have endless women and money. It will also allow you to customize the phone and install certain apps you normally wouldn't be able to. If you familiar with the Windows phone world, it's pretty much the same as unlocking your phone. If you have to ask though, root may not be for you.
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It also makes you immune to any and all communicable diseases and viruses for the rest of your life. Also, you'll never be able to see your reflection again.

To be fair to sjcea, I'm not laughing about the lack of understanding. I know nothing about rooting a phone.

Your best bet is to read read read read read read read oh and read some more, and once you feel like you completely understand root read some more this makes it so you have less chance to brick your phone. Id start with reading on other phones root while your waiting for incredible, then you'll have the ideal when you get ready to root the incredible.

This means the end to City ID

Why root?

I had a g1 up until the vibrant and I definitely saw the benefits if root there. Just wondering what peoples reasons are for rooting the vibrant?
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use the search feature.. there are 10+ other threads about this. its the same reason why you rooted your G1. also wrong section.

Mmmmm I already not found a reason to root. I had a G1 too and that phone if not its rooted its a brick, but this one(vibrant) its perfect!! No need to root

Lag fix is the major one. Also wrong section.

vibrantuser said:
Mmmmm I already not found a reason to root. I had a G1 too and that phone if not its rooted its a brick, but this one(vibrant) its perfect!! No need to root
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Yes this is an amazing phone out of the box but...
1.Root is extremely easy because of the help from the forum
2.you can customize the phone more with morph and roms
3.you can greatly improve performance of the phone easily.
4.Guaranteed this forum will get 2.2 to everyone before Tmobile/samsung
Just root and apply the lag fix.. You can do that in 10min and can see a big difference
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Stock Root + RyanZA LagFix + Captive Camera MOD

Full backups. That's the big reason I root.

Free wifi tethering
Also, wrong section......

I love this forum but I hate how theres always a million posts about "wrong section" and search. There are more posts about what section your threading in than actual threads in the wrong section, thus cluttering the search function forcing people to post instead of wading through thousands of flaming posts.
I know you all wanna be mods but damn send a resume and apply.
Lames! Ugh!
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I don't get why you wouldn't want to root, its EASILY able to root and unroot.
If you're on XDA then you most likely have an interest in maximizing the most out of your $199.99 or $499.99 investment. The biggest reason why i rooted was because if im going to pay $199.99 on something and use it for two-years then I want the MOST out of it. It's so easy to unroot if you need to return it to T-Mobile, so why not?
Removing bloatware is a pretty good reason to root.

zephiK said:
I don't get why you wouldn't want to root, its EASILY able to root and unroot.
If you're on XDA then you most likely have an interest in maximizing the most out of your $199.99 or $499.99 investment. The biggest reason why i rooted was because if im going to pay $199.99 on something and use it for two-years then I want the MOST out of it. It's so easy to unroot if you need to return it to T-Mobile, so why not?
Removing bloatware is a pretty good reason to root.
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hahaha sup zephik. it's buttons from stormreaver. small friggin world dude, we keep running into each other.

wookieloou said:
hahaha sup zephik. it's buttons from stormreaver. small friggin world dude, we keep running into each other.
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-______- you're never on steam either.

[Q] I've searched, no one asked: Should I root my Vibrant?

Ok...
No one has debated or have asked this question:
Should I root my Vibrant?
I'd like to actually see a debate whether or not rooting is better or stock is better. I know you have to root in order to do custom ROM, but what I'm trying to achieve on this thread is, the benefits of rooting (since I know there are plenty). I just want to give noobs and new users of Vibrant the flexibility of deciding whether they need to root, or not. I myself, have a rooted vibrant, and LOVE IT.
So, is rooting for me? Should I root the Vibrant? Or stick with the stock?
P.S.
I used "me" as an example. It isn't necessary that I want to ask the question, i just thought it's better if i put "me" on the question...

Rooting is ALWAYS better.

Certainly the VAST majority of people do not need to root their phones for any reason. I have several friends with Vibrants that are quite happy with their phones as-is.
You gain absolutely nothing by rooting your phone, there is absolutely no difference in any way shape or form except you can now do modifications that non-rooted phones can not. The question isn't whether to root or not, the question is whether or not you want to do something with/to your phone that requires root access.
For me, I would have had to stick with my Blackberry simply to have tethering ability, it is a feature I have had to use many, many times. Since I never got Kies working right, I had no choice but to root in order to install MobileAP which has been a real life saver for me when I absolutely had to have internet access on my laptop and their was no alternative. This is the same reason I had to root my wife's 3G Slide. She absolutely has to have internet access and it is her only means to get it in some places.
That will probably be the only reason for her. Me, being a techie, I have flash Franken-Twiz, Bionix 1.8, 1.9, and am now running Fusion and absolutely love my phone now.

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Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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How come it is ALWAYS better? What makes rooting better for you?
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@ Kerry
Well put. Hopefully this would bring light to new users.
Personally, rooting is a must for me, because of the fact I'm always on the road, having a tethered phone has an advantage.
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I rooted because I could...
I like the ability to do different things with my phone - I'm not one to leave it stock if I don't have too.
but it's weird, I haven't jailbroke my ipod yet - never really felt the need to nor the desire.
with my phone (and this is my first android) it just seemed like the right thing to do, then after bricking during the OTA I dived right into flashing ROMs and overclocking...yeah, rooting like a gateway drug...and I'm so happy...
but I was the noob on rooting/flashing/ etc up until the other week...and now I have a flashing problem...hahahaha

I rooted my phone just to delete the bloatware.

There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.

I owned a G1 previously and never thought rooting was for me. Less than 2 weeks after getting my Vibrant I decided to give rooting a go and instantly loved it. I was actually mad at myself afterwards for not even considering rooting my G1 and running stock for almost 2 years. I don't even use custom ROMs but I love being able to take screen caps, Mobile AP, and being able to block ads.

djquick said:
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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That depends on who is using the phone. I mean for someone that doesn't care for rom or doing anything other than making phone call, text, and browse the web, he or she will not really need to root. They will not find root better. Like my GF thinks root is too much work and hassle. For me, I think root is better since i actually like to try new roms and get updates before the OTA. Root will give you the ability to tether and use custom recovery to backup/restore.
Now to the OP, it just depends on what you are looking to do with your phone. If you are just using it to make calls and browse the web, you can just keep it unrooted. If you plan to use tethering or make any system changes, you will need to root. Also, if you root, it doesn't mean you have to do anything else to your phone. You can still keep it in its stock form and have the option to do whatever you want later. It's up to you.

Shakespeare Said it is better to root
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right

Tether
Just a note! I can tether with PDAnet using bluetooth and I'm not rooted.
Rooting isn't a requirment to tether, However there may be other options that do require root access.

Great feedback.
s15274n said:
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
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Lol, somehow i knew s15274n would reply. Not many people know that rooting is a good thing or a bad thing. They don't know that they got options. I've been reading and been surfing on XDA for a long time, I had an old handle here, when WinMo was popular. But then when i got promoted, I started to be on the road, i've lost touch (and my account i closed).
Many people I encounter across the country don't know why they should root, or skeptical to root. Since I got the Vibrant, i rooted it right away, and plenty of my clientèle are amazed of what that Android phone can do. Most have Crackberry, and I've led them to this site and found it very usefull.
They don't see the stickies, or such, so i made a thread that i could access on my phone to show them. They ask the same thing all the time, "Should I root/Why do you root/I'm afraid to root/I don't know Andriod" Most of them don't have the time to read stickies. SO, i tell them. But I tell them of what MY opinion is (and why I wanted to root), and so i decided to thread and ask other people's opinion on why they would root.
Great feedback guys

oka1 said:
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
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Good one!

Proud new 10.1 owner...Thinking of rooting..

does rooting this tab and isntalling a custom rom make a huge difrence as far as speed and battery life? im interrested in doing it, but want to make sure it is worth it...i know it always has been on my android phones...
thoughts?

Personally, I believe it to be an improvement. I'm running Paris v4 rom at the moment and it's exceptionally fast and smooth. I noticed lag when sliding between screens without the rom and it annoyed me enough to try Paris. I would never go back.
Rooting lets you fully use your Tab imho.

im a new owner too, and i wanna know does the rooting break the warrenty from the seller or can you unroot it if something happends to it ??

It can be unrooted. not sure on the warranty question.

dvigue said:
does rooting this tab and isntalling a custom rom make a huge difrence as far as speed and battery life? im interrested in doing it, but want to make sure it is worth it...i know it always has been on my android phones...
thoughts?
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I have always believed in staying stock until rooting and ROM'ing my G2x. The difference was more than night and day; more like the sun and the planet that was, Pluto. I took the plunge with my GTab 10.1 after going through hell with the stock OS. task650 and Phantom's "In Paris" v4 ROM will make you wonder why you didn't do it earlier!
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You are doing your Tab & yourself injustice if you don't root it.
Having a Titanium Backup of your apps comes in handy & among other stuff.

This thread has the worst advice i've seen across the entire XDA-Developers website.
DO NOT ROOT UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON TO ROOT
Rooting allows you to make administrative changes only. This means you have the ability to use it as you would a Linux computer.
You will not get a speed boost.
You will not get magic abilities.
You will gain the ability to completely destroy your tab.
You will gain the ability to run malicious apps to their full potential.
Do not root unless you have a reason to root.

AdamOutler said:
This thread has the worst advice i've seen across the entire XDA-Developers website.
DO NOT ROOT UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON TO ROOT
Rooting allows you to make administrative changes only. This means you have the ability to use it as you would a Linux computer.
You will not get a speed boost.
You will not get magic abilities.
You will gain the ability to completely destroy your tab.
You will gain the ability to run malicious apps to their full potential.
Do not root unless you have a reason to root.
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Hey here's a reason:
Installing a modded rom.
Hows that for a good reason?
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AdamOutler said:
This thread has the worst advice i've seen across the entire XDA-Developers website.
DO NOT ROOT UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON TO ROOT
Rooting allows you to make administrative changes only. This means you have the ability to use it as you would a Linux computer.
You will not get a speed boost.
You will not get magic abilities.
You will gain the ability to completely destroy your tab.
You will gain the ability to run malicious apps to their full potential.
Do not root unless you have a reason to root.
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Starting a post with a general insult, writing in huge font, and giving no useful information. Over 2000 posts, called "recognized developer," and you're still trolling? Bad form, dude.
+1 for installing a custom ROM. Sure, anyone using these forums should know that rooting won't do any of this for you. But a custom ROM will...

Don't listen to anyone but yourself on this issue. Go to the development section and look over some of the ROMs posted and what they offer in terms of features/improvements. Then read some of the user reviews/comments in those threads, as well as any particular issues any of the ROMs are having. Then take a look at what you can do with root access that you can't without it.
Then I would say use your tab for a few days. If you feel yourself wanting to try out those ROMs or those things that need root, than do it. If your device makes you happy as is and you don't feel like doing it, than don't. That's the best advice anyone can give.

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Starting a post with a general insult, writing in huge font, and giving no useful information. Over 2000 posts, called "recognized developer," and you're still trolling? Bad form, dude.
+1 for installing a custom ROM. Sure, anyone using these forums should know that rooting won't do any of this for you. But a custom ROM will...
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Installing a custom ROM is a good reason, however this guy obviously has no clue what is or what it does.
Recommending that anyone "root" is totally bad information 100% bad information.
Bad information
You are doing your Tab & yourself injustice if you don't root it.
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If someone EVER asks "Should I root"? The answer should ALWAYS be "no".
Remember this line: With great power, comes great responsibility.
Would you give a gun to someone who does not know how to use it? Root has the same potential to destroy your device as a gun has to kill you. Rooting just to "root" is ridiculously dangerous and should never be done.
How many times have you seen someone say "Hey, I've rooted my device, what cool apps can I run"? You don't root your device and then look for things to run.
If someone asks "Should I root my device" and has no reason, the answer is NO! under no circumstances should you root your device unless you have a reason you NEED root capabilities.
Gah... why don't you just tell him to run su;rm -rf / <<never run this.

AdamOutler said:
Gah... why don't you just tell him to run su;rm -rf / <<never run this.
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I'm not real into Android Dev humor, but I know computers (Windows) almost inside and out. I take it this would be the Android version of the common joke "Delete System32"?
What exactly does that command do, if I may ask?

He clearly stated in the OP that he has rooted his previous android devices and put roms on them. He was specifically asking if he should with THIS device.
He was maybe wondering if the device is fast enough to not need a custom rom. The answer to his question:
No device is fast enough :-D
And definitely not this one.

i think I read some post that if you root your tablet that the android market place will not let you purchase movies ... not sure if that is still true or not

@OP: I've rooted some other devices and when I picked up this device I was unsure... I finally did it one day after reading and reading and reading and watching a video or two I rooted... I flashed the overcome 1.2.1 rom and it really made a noticeable difference in speed. This was my reason to root my device and its good enough for me and if I damage it then its my fault and I take the hit for it simple enough...

I was in your exact same position a couple weeks ago, try rooting it and flashing " in parisv4" youll love it. Night and day speed difference

Edited:I rooted my Gtab so that I can play Hulu and be able to take advantage of the custom roms tweaks like the ability to overclock/underclock. More quality apps on the market like juice defender, Titanium backup, wifikiller, wifitether and so much more when rooted. Yes if your just looking to change the look of your home screen then just go download a launcher. But sine I rooted its hard to go back to stock. Currently I'm using Bindroid v2.0

There's no "need" to root. Running ADW allows me to customize the look, and to be honest, I don't get screen lag. People want to run custom roms... great. Does it do anything other than let you feel more in control? Not really. As for Hulu, I don't find myself wanting to watch much that's on there. Now... if you had said HBOGO, that would be a different story.

AdamOutler said:
This thread has the worst advice i've seen across the entire XDA-Developers website.
DO NOT ROOT UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON TO ROOT
Rooting allows you to make administrative changes only. This means you have the ability to use it as you would a Linux computer.
You will not get a speed boost.
You will not get magic abilities.
You will gain the ability to completely destroy your tab.
You will gain the ability to run malicious apps to their full potential.
Do not root unless you have a reason to root.
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+1. Rooting is considered a toy. But it is very dangerous indeed... I have come acroos apps that can brick a device irreversibly. And, yeah, it voids the warranty, although you can unroot.
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I was running stock since end of July and then touchwiz... eventually I got bored and needed "a fix" in the form of rooting and custom rom =)
This is a fancy toy so once you get bored I would start looking into root/custom rom. Not before then.. Btw, Task650 & Phantoms In Paris v5 is a very nice rom to start with!

Am I right to be afraid?

I'm actually kind of afraid to root my device. I just don't want to mess anything up. And we only have one Rom. Is it right to just wait? I loved having root on my sensation but I really really don't want to mess up my galaxy.
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Assuming the method of obtaining root is safe, you don't really have anything to worry about by just having root access.
It's only dangerous if:
A) The method of obtaining root initially is dangerous in some way
B) You start giving apps root permission that may be malicious
C) You use root access to start modifying system files carelessly
So as long are you are careful and follow the advice from helpful users who have confirmed which apps are safe to disable and such, you should not have any problems.
I don't have my device yet, as it's pre-ordered on Verizon, but I could never live without root on an Android device. As soon as we get custom ROMs though, I'll be flashing one of those.

I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.

if you have sprint they dgaf about the flash count or even ir your rooted running a leaked jellybean rom they will still help you out and the flash process is simple just watch qbking77 videos on hius youtube channel root gives you access to more apps such at titanium backup and allows you to delete apps that you never use

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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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Me either, which is why I tend to wait for my 1 year to be up before rooting.
At the very least, I wait for a safer, more painless root... Looking briefly at the root instructions for the SGSIII, it seems there are several opportunities to brick your phone if you F something up. Granted, if you're careful and you're remotely competent, it shouldn't happen, but it still can. I can't guarantee that I will make it the whole 1st year... but I'm pretty sure I will at least wait for one of those "download-this-program-which-roots-the-phone-for-you" type tools (a la "Unrevoked" on my beloved Incredible).
As for the warranty... I may be persuaded to root my phone earlier than the 1 year if there is a reliable unroot that leaves virtually no traces behind. I'm not sure what the "flash counter" is exactly, but unless it's something that shows up on the bootloader screen or anything like that, I'm sure Verizon won't notice. Unless anyone out there has had a different experience?

Besides the small amount of bloat that can be hidden with the launcher, the phone works flawless for me. If there was a way to go back to 100% stock on a T-999, I'd maybe do it.

Well I'm currently on T-Mobile. And I have had my device a week and have had no issues what so ever besides the black blotches I didn't even notice until reading the defect screen and I only have 2 tiny spots that don't bother me at all. I have never had to replace any Samsung device I have ever purchased. But I cannot say the same for HTC. That Damn counter is the only thing stopping me
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RampageRR said:
If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
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^This
and never delete apps, IMO it's always better to just "freeze" them with Titanium Backup, because they can always be restored.
If you delete a system app (aka uninstall it) many times it cannot be restored via Titanium, so it's always risky to do that.

I've decided to wait for a one click root option.

The actual process of rooting is simple, only problem is if u dont read or rush through it. No worries there.
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You guys should not be scare to mess things up... i mean the root its so easy .... but like the other guy said just wait for a week or two to see the results...

I'm holding off rooting as well to make sure there isn't any issues with the phone. And if everything is working properly I will root. I do love this device though. Came from the Samsung Vibrant who has served me well for the two years I had it.

Rooting itself is not dangerous. When someone has root and does something they don't know how to fix, that is when it becomes dangerous.
A gun isn't dangerous until it is loaded. You can give a gun to any idiot but you have to be careful with who you give bullets to.
Sent from my Axiom MAXX!!

I agree, but there is always that what if? I suppose that's the risks we take
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You all just need to read all instructions and follow them perfectly. If you rely solely on One Click Roots and things of that nature, you'll never really learn how to work with Android. It might look daunting at first, but ADB and related stuff really isn't bad at all. Take the time to read and learn, and if in the rare case you should mess up, you'll have the knowledge of how to fix it yourself.
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions on how to do things rather than jump in head first and brick your phone. People here will be glad to help, just ignore the few idiots who flame you to make themselves feel better. We all started without knowledge at one point or another.