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Ok...
No one has debated or have asked this question:
Should I root my Vibrant?
I'd like to actually see a debate whether or not rooting is better or stock is better. I know you have to root in order to do custom ROM, but what I'm trying to achieve on this thread is, the benefits of rooting (since I know there are plenty). I just want to give noobs and new users of Vibrant the flexibility of deciding whether they need to root, or not. I myself, have a rooted vibrant, and LOVE IT.
So, is rooting for me? Should I root the Vibrant? Or stick with the stock?
P.S.
I used "me" as an example. It isn't necessary that I want to ask the question, i just thought it's better if i put "me" on the question...
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
Certainly the VAST majority of people do not need to root their phones for any reason. I have several friends with Vibrants that are quite happy with their phones as-is.
You gain absolutely nothing by rooting your phone, there is absolutely no difference in any way shape or form except you can now do modifications that non-rooted phones can not. The question isn't whether to root or not, the question is whether or not you want to do something with/to your phone that requires root access.
For me, I would have had to stick with my Blackberry simply to have tethering ability, it is a feature I have had to use many, many times. Since I never got Kies working right, I had no choice but to root in order to install MobileAP which has been a real life saver for me when I absolutely had to have internet access on my laptop and their was no alternative. This is the same reason I had to root my wife's 3G Slide. She absolutely has to have internet access and it is her only means to get it in some places.
That will probably be the only reason for her. Me, being a techie, I have flash Franken-Twiz, Bionix 1.8, 1.9, and am now running Fusion and absolutely love my phone now.
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Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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How come it is ALWAYS better? What makes rooting better for you?
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@ Kerry
Well put. Hopefully this would bring light to new users.
Personally, rooting is a must for me, because of the fact I'm always on the road, having a tethered phone has an advantage.
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I rooted because I could...
I like the ability to do different things with my phone - I'm not one to leave it stock if I don't have too.
but it's weird, I haven't jailbroke my ipod yet - never really felt the need to nor the desire.
with my phone (and this is my first android) it just seemed like the right thing to do, then after bricking during the OTA I dived right into flashing ROMs and overclocking...yeah, rooting like a gateway drug...and I'm so happy...
but I was the noob on rooting/flashing/ etc up until the other week...and now I have a flashing problem...hahahaha
I rooted my phone just to delete the bloatware.
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
I owned a G1 previously and never thought rooting was for me. Less than 2 weeks after getting my Vibrant I decided to give rooting a go and instantly loved it. I was actually mad at myself afterwards for not even considering rooting my G1 and running stock for almost 2 years. I don't even use custom ROMs but I love being able to take screen caps, Mobile AP, and being able to block ads.
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That depends on who is using the phone. I mean for someone that doesn't care for rom or doing anything other than making phone call, text, and browse the web, he or she will not really need to root. They will not find root better. Like my GF thinks root is too much work and hassle. For me, I think root is better since i actually like to try new roms and get updates before the OTA. Root will give you the ability to tether and use custom recovery to backup/restore.
Now to the OP, it just depends on what you are looking to do with your phone. If you are just using it to make calls and browse the web, you can just keep it unrooted. If you plan to use tethering or make any system changes, you will need to root. Also, if you root, it doesn't mean you have to do anything else to your phone. You can still keep it in its stock form and have the option to do whatever you want later. It's up to you.
Shakespeare Said it is better to root
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
Tether
Just a note! I can tether with PDAnet using bluetooth and I'm not rooted.
Rooting isn't a requirment to tether, However there may be other options that do require root access.
Great feedback.
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There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
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Lol, somehow i knew s15274n would reply. Not many people know that rooting is a good thing or a bad thing. They don't know that they got options. I've been reading and been surfing on XDA for a long time, I had an old handle here, when WinMo was popular. But then when i got promoted, I started to be on the road, i've lost touch (and my account i closed).
Many people I encounter across the country don't know why they should root, or skeptical to root. Since I got the Vibrant, i rooted it right away, and plenty of my clientèle are amazed of what that Android phone can do. Most have Crackberry, and I've led them to this site and found it very usefull.
They don't see the stickies, or such, so i made a thread that i could access on my phone to show them. They ask the same thing all the time, "Should I root/Why do you root/I'm afraid to root/I don't know Andriod" Most of them don't have the time to read stickies. SO, i tell them. But I tell them of what MY opinion is (and why I wanted to root), and so i decided to thread and ask other people's opinion on why they would root.
Great feedback guys
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Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
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Good one!
Okay so I'm using the uprooted Evo 4g but I would like to know if I should root my device or not. Someone please help
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Don't root unless you have a reason to.
If your asking if you should root then IMHO just walk away and forget you even Sen this board
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My advice on this is . Figure out why you want to root in the first place . You want to load custom roms or tweak the OS thats fine . Wanna try out Setcpu and other apps like that go for it . Most important read everything there is to read about rooting . The different ways to get root , most importantly how to remove root in the event you have to bring your phone back for repairs or an exchange . Several threads have been "stickey'd" in regards to rooting explaining terms and so forth . Me personally I have rooted my phone and never looked back . Especially with Myrn and his recently Rom RLS3 . Simply amazing rom I honestly dont think I will flash anything else since having this . But in the end its your choice and what you feel comfortable with . I really really strongly push , reading all the info you can find first though
Most important thing is to know the risk involved. Do all the reading, then read some more. Don't just root because you heard it was a good idea, root because there's something specific you're looking to gain by rooting. If you feel that stock is fine for you and meets your needs, don't root.
If you do decide to root, read the misconceptions sticky. Someone posted a set of questions there that you should be comfortable answering before you attempt root. If you can't answer the questions, you're not ready to root.
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Most important thing is to know the risk involved. Do all the reading, then read some more. Don't just root because you heard it was a good idea, root because there's something specific you're looking to gain by rooting. If you feel that stock is fine for you and meets your needs, don't root.
If you do decide to root, read the misconceptions sticky. Someone posted a set of questions there that you should be comfortable answering before you attempt root. If you can't answer the questions, you're not ready to root.
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+1
In other words, if your phone works for you, then stay unrooted.
FWIW, I decided to root to get rid of all the Sprint apps.
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My evo was plain boring and bogged down by all the Sprint bloatware and Sense UI. Now that I'm rooted I get better battery life a faster phone and everything tweaked and set just how I like. I highly recommend rooting for everyone interested in it, Especially with the EVO the process is so simple and basic.
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Okay so I'm using the uprooted Evo 4g but I would like to know if I should root my device or not. Someone please help
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I could not imagine not having a rooted phone. I rooted my Hero and my Evo I would not want an unrooted phone.
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I could not imagine not having a rooted phone. I rooted my Hero and my Evo I would not want an unrooted phone.
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Why? I'm not trying to be a jerk out troll. I just want to know why you say that. Giving some reasons or what you perceive as benefits of rooting may help the OP decide.
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Why? I'm not trying to be a jerk out troll. I just want to know why you say that. Giving some reasons or what you perceive as benefits of rooting may help the OP decide.
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How about the ability to tether for free? How about the ability to remove unwanted apps? How about being able to get better battery life through underclocking or custom undervolted kernels? It's your device, so why would you not choose to gain ultimate control via root access? The only reason to not root, is the voiding of the warranty, but that's not reason enough for me.
Root or get off the pot!
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I rooted because it is my phone and I want to be able to do anything I want to it. Now I can't live with out root.
I want to root my phone but dont know if its possible witht the lastest update. im very new to all of this but i see there are many many more things i can do with it rooted than not rooted.
i also want to get sense 3.0 on it.
thanks for all help.
chesarae.garza said:
I want to root my phone but dont know if its possible witht the lastest update. im very new to all of this but i see there are many many more things i can do with it rooted than not rooted.
i also want to get sense 3.0 on it.
thanks for all help.
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for the love of christ............. diaf
chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
chesarae.garza said:
chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
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yes but it is the same question that has been asked a thousand times that you didnt feel the need to search for yourself. look like 3 posts down from your thread, then like 2 more down, then a few more down, notice anything? yeah those are the other morons who asked the same thing that has been beat to death because they felt they were to special to search.
i dont think we think were "to special" bro.
thanks for pointing me in the right direction though, thats all i needed.
So it can't be done or is it being worked on?
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So it can't be done or is it being worked on?
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Currently it cannot be done. The source code for the ROM will be released soon and soon after you will have more ROMS, better kernels and rooting. Until then its a wait period for you. Its good practice to wait after an update (OTA) is released to the wild because you lose root and essentially you are stuck with that ROM until things are released etc.
Hope that helps and welcome to XDA.!
How long....?
I'm a n00b and I know there is no root method with a 2.3 OTA if you are S-On. The bootloader is locked.
Question: Whats a typical time-frame for somebody to do the hack? Days, weeks, Months.
From what I gather and read this work-a-round is going to be harder.
The reason I ask is that I am about to kank my Comcast wireless service. Increased from $26.99 to $49.99. I think I'm better off paying Sprint $30 for the hotspot. I am better off waiting a bit, then root to get the free hotspot tether to work.
FWIW - Maybe there should be a sticky titled "EVO 4G 2.3 Hack Update! - Sprint: 4 , XDA:3" One post per day, saying just "nada, zilch, nothing, - patience grasshoper"
Anything to see the status is No Can Do.
People will be mercilessness with asking the same ridiculous question.
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I'm a n00b and I know there is no root method with a 2.3 OTA if you are S-On. The bootloader is locked.
Question: Whats a typical time-frame for somebody do the hack? Days, weeks, Months.
From what I gather and read this work-a-round is going to be harder.
The reason I ask is that I am about to kank my Comcast wireless service. Increased from $26.99 to $49.99. I think I'm better off paying Sprint $30 for the hotspot. I am better off waiting a bit, then root to get the free hotspot tether to work.
FWIW - Maybe there should be a sticky titled "EVO 4G 2.3 Hack Update! - Sprint: 4 , XDA:3" One post per day, saying just "nada, zilch, nothing, - patience grasshoper"
Anything to see the status is No Can Do.
People will be mercilessness with asking the same ridiculous question.
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i would say average is a few weeks to a month based on previous ota getting rooted. however google seems to have done a good job at plugging all the holes and it may be considerably longer. no way to know how long really. just depends how much scouring it takes to find an exploit. take the rageagainstthecage exploit, that wasnt discovered until about 6 months after froyo was release iirc
I get aggravated to, but the guy asked the question in a decent enough. non-naab way.
Truth is, if you have 2.3.3 and you're S-on, there is no root, currently.
Give it some time, be patient and use the time to read as much as you can and get an idea of what you want and how you want to set it up once a root method is developed.
Specifically, I'd learn APS2SD/SD Card partitioning, Which ROMS suit your needs the best and how you want to set your screens up
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I get aggravated to, but the guy asked the question in a decent enough. non-naab way.
Truth is, if you have 2.3.3 and you're S-on, there is no root, currently.
Give it some time, be patient and use the time to read as much as you can and get an idea of what you want and how you want to set it up once a root method is developed.
Specifically, I'd learn APS2SD/SD Card partitioning, Which ROMS suit your needs the best and how you want to set your screens up
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op asked in a manner befitting someone who has not searched or tried to answer for himself hence is why he got some flammage. Schlenkerla, however, asked in an educated and obviously researched way which earned him a proper reply.
no root? How about another option?
ok, i have been reading every single day on how to re-root my evo. Now, im not asking if there is a root method yet, however i need to ask this.
Is is possible to revert the hboot, firmware, to a previous version. I an unable to install a ruu OS because im s-on of course. I would just like to know if there is ANY way to revert back to 2.2 so i can just root the normal way and start flashing roms daily again... It can be complicated, im highly technical, but i cant find anyhting talking about a way to do this.
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ok, i have been reading every single day on how to re-root my evo. Now, im not asking if there is a root method yet, however i need to ask this.
Is is possible to revert the hboot, firmware, to a previous version. I an unable to install a ruu OS because im s-on of course. I would just like to know if there is ANY way to revert back to 2.2 so i can just root the normal way and start flashing roms daily again... It can be complicated, im highly technical, but i cant find anyhting talking about a way to do this.
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not possible at this point. the 2.16 hboot will not allow an older version to be flashed.
Crap, that sucks! thanks for the info.
I am guessing the same goes with a factory reset.
Btw - what all does factory reset do?
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chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
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Forums also don't need the same question asked in 50 different threads.
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Or people running around being jerks on it. If a complete stranger asked you the same question for the 50th time in real life would you blow up in their face about it? No. So why would you on the internet? The internet makes people feel empowered to be rude because they aren't face to face. Let's just keep in mind that person on the other end is a human being, and we all are lazy and all don't search for stuff ok?
I can't tell you how many times my husband has said "I can't find the ketchup" and I say "did you look behind the milk?". The answer is always no, but that's where it is!
Maybe its just guys that have the problem with not knowing how to search.
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Because if someone asks you a question you've heard over and over, they may not be in a position to do a simple search for the answer before they ask....
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<snip> Let's just keep in mind that person on the other end is a human being, and we all are lazy and all don't search for stuff ok? <snip>
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Look, I am not a flamer (at least , not where noobs are concerned). I normally just ignore questions that have been answered 1000 times. Believe it or not, I am actually a pretty polite dood, especially to people I don't know. That being said, the thought process that starts with "everybody does it" and ends with "fvk it, i'll just ask instead of bothering to search" is just wrong. Feel free to search through every thread I have ever started and show me were I started a thread asking a question that had already been done to death. Do it. People get flamed because others want the questions to STOP! They WANT noobs to be too afraid of flaming to ask a question. I was gone on vacation, and away from from XDA for basically a solid week. During that vacation, I managed to smash my phone's screen. As soon as I got home, I put in for my replacement, and immediately started searching for root methods for the newest OTA. It took less than 10 minutes to determine that there was no news...with the exception of this, which obviously is not very helpful.
In short: Don't start a new thread unless you are SURE that there is not already a thread about your topic. If you decide to do it anyway, don't complain when you get flamed. It is your own fault. Human nature is no excuse for anything. We are humans and have the power to observe both ourselves and the world around us, and we have the ability to modify our behavior based on those observations. For instance, I was absolutely positive, when I began writing this response, that at least one person would feel the need to flame me for it. Go ahead. I can take it. I put my big-boy pants on.
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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True, that's unappealing...just when it's perfect you have to wipe and then you have to set it up again. I used to worry more about that but now that I've had to set-up again about 5 or 6 times I've become a master at doing it quickly and better than before. I totally love having root...wouldn't do it any other way.
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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undervolting each freq by 125mV is way to good to pass up
no way would I ever use stock
It's just not the right time. I wait until a "real" custom rom comes out.
What for? I can use my SD card if I need to. Which I don't. Got 3.2 a couple of days ago. If I want to play with roms and overclocking I have my phone rooted. But for now I don't need it.
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Really?
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I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
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Good point. Any more reasons?
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
I Agree
I cannot imagine using any of my android devices without at least su file capabilities
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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This is great because it says that people love the Xoom right out of the box, or fresh from the stock update.
As I said, having experienced both, I will choose the ability to truly customize to my hearts content. But for those who are happy with plain vanilla, enjoy!
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I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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+1 I have no reason to root.
the speed, battery life, etc. etc. are all fine for what I use it for - nothing heavy - just a replacement for browsing the web and a few games like angry birds
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there's no real custom roms out that give you any benefit to flashing a new rom, and I am on 3.2 - not even put an sdcard in the xoom yet.
all movies/tv shows are streamed direct to TV or to Xoom via Plex, so i dont need extra space to store movies,
I only have the wifi version so i dont need space for travelling around with 3g.
the only time I may need more space and thus an sdcard would be if i go on holiday and want to take a few films on the sd - but even in a readonly state i can do that by loading films onto an sd and sticking it in now...
my only grief was that motorola were taking an aeon to push out any updates to the UK image I had on - but flashing the US fixed that and I decided I dont need to go any further down the rooting process... I'm happy - surely that's the best way to be
newskate9 said:
Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
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I was basically trying to get some conversations started as to why and why not to root the WiFi xoom so people on this forum understand where the other team is coming from. Thought this thread title and my choice of words would draw some good debate. And it would keep the debate here and not all over the forum.
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I get what people are saying here, if you're happy with what you've got then by all means you should stick to it. No-one should be telling you what to like.
However, I do support the OP. If you are NOT happy with what you've got but there is a fix for it, why not just apply the fix instead of complaining?
crisisinthecity said:
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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I for one am too new to Android to root my Xoom. I have a G2x phone. It has a one step Root method and a one step Recovery method. I'm ok with that. But looking at all the ABD steps and the instructions on how to make them work....I feel its too complicated for a limited return at this time.
If someone put together the Bible of rooting the Xoom, that does NOT begin with , " This assumes you have an understanding of xxx", then maybe I would...
I took the Xoom out of the box...I want to Root, do this, then this, then this. Include what needs to be installed, what to type, etc, etc.
If that sounds whiney...so what, you asked.
Alright guys for over a year now I have been trying to decide if I should root. I have seen some positives about rooting but not a good enough breakdown to want to jump on board. Now that the new update is rolling out, I'm again at this crossroad. So I ask, what advantages are there to rooting? What do I gain over sticking to stock? Overall, just convince me why I should root and go to cyanogen...thanks in advance
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1) Tethering
2) Titanium Bakup to backup apps
3) Notification power widgets (many ROMs have them now)
4) AdFree to block ads!
5) Faster / Better battery life (overclock/underlock/undervolt/etc.)
6) Nandroid Backups
7) No bloatware
8) Screenshots (minor, but some like it)
9) Blazing fast updates (CM7 been up with 2.3 since January)
These are basic for all custom ROMs, but there is just the utter speed and smoothness to CM7 especially, and has tons of great features over stock baked right into the ROM.
If you root, you don't have to go to CyanogenMod. Tons of people do because it really is an awesome AOSP ROM, but there are other choices too. Rooting gives you that choice. I personally just run CM7 because its so great, I have flashed a lot of ROMs and not found anything better.
I just use the stock GB rom with the Virtuous V4 kernel so I can OC. Does everything I need. Use Titanium to freeze a few things and its very fast.
If rooting and s-offing the phone was not a 5 min process I would say ya you need a big ass breakdown. Dude its so simple. Just do it. And even if you don't like it go back to stock. Just try it!
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5 minute job? I had a (half arsed) crack once... Installing the developer tools, downgrading, risking f%@#ing up and temporarily bricking your phone. Good few hours work at best by the time you include the pages of reading you need to do.
I'd love to root, but until there is a 5 minute solution it just doesn't seem worth it...
xsteven77x said:
If rooting and s-offing the phone was not a 5 min process I would say ya you need a big ass breakdown. Dude its so simple. Just do it. And even if you don't like it go back to stock. Just try it!
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whistlerGreg said:
5 minute job? I had a (half arsed) crack once... Installing the developer tools, downgrading, risking f%@#ing up and temporarily bricking your phone. Good few hours work at best by the time you include the pages of reading you need to do.
I'd love to root, but until there is a 5 minute solution it just doesn't seem worth it...
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If he's on a G2 and on 2.2 the root really does only take about 15min start to finish. If he's on a DZ and has to downgrade etc. it can take much longer of course. On top of that, even if it takes an hour to do, its definitely worth everything it gets you.
whistlerGreg said:
5 minute job? I had a (half arsed) crack once... Installing the developer tools, downgrading, risking f%@#ing up and temporarily bricking your phone. Good few hours work at best by the time you include the pages of reading you need to do.
I'd love to root, but until there is a 5 minute solution it just doesn't seem worth it...
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Took a while to get root only because I have a crap sd card but it was definitely worth it!
Don't bother with the guides in the dev section, follow the wiki guide and it will be easy.
Basically its:
- Get MiniADB which it much easier to work with
- Follow wiki guide.
Done.
If you wait for a 1 click solution you learn nothing. At least you learn how to use ADB and the basic commands because you will need them when you change roms/kernels/radios.
Did you really ask this question on xda?! On top of that, post it in general?
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wow..........
-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......
The choice to root is yours and yours alone. I will say this, after having a rooted phone, I could never go back to a stock phone.
boborone said:
Did you really ask this question on xda?! On top of that, post it in general?
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wow..........
-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......
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Wow hi troll, if you did not notice...your in the g2 section, not the general...and if your not here to help then get (explicit) out!
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whistlerGreg said:
5 minute job? I had a (half arsed) crack once... Installing the developer tools, downgrading, risking f%@#ing up and temporarily bricking your phone. Good few hours work at best by the time you include the pages of reading you need to do.
I'd love to root, but until there is a 5 minute solution it just doesn't seem worth it...
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See this is one of the things that's get me nervous about rooting. I have heard its such a high risk. I know I'm probably technical enough to do it but do the rewards really out way the risks.
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pierrekid said:
Wow hi troll, if you did not notice...your in the g2 section, not the general...and if your not here to help then get (explicit) out!
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I was referring to this being in the g2 general and not in g2 q&a.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306
Please join the conversation at the end of the thread. Start at post 2221 and read from there. I feel you may have a view not yet expressed in the discussion. Please speak in there your opinion.
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martonikaj said:
1) Tethering
2) Titanium Bakup to backup apps
3) Notification power widgets (many ROMs have them now)
4) AdFree to block ads!
5) Faster / Better battery life (overclock/underlock/undervolt/etc.)
6) Nandroid Backups
7) No bloatware
8) Screenshots (minor, but some like it)
9) Blazing fast updates (CM7 been up with 2.3 since January)
These are basic for all custom ROMs, but there is just the utter speed and smoothness to CM7 especially, and has tons of great features over stock baked right into the ROM.
If you root, you don't have to go to CyanogenMod. Tons of people do because it really is an awesome AOSP ROM, but there are other choices too. Rooting gives you that choice. I personally just run CM7 because its so great, I have flashed a lot of ROMs and not found anything better.
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Couple of questions, what are Nandroid backups? Titanium...? Lol I have no idea what these things are, but I'm always looking for a ways to better my g2. Sorry my ignorance. You can keep it brief I just want a general overview.
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boborone said:
I was referring to this being in the g2 general and not in g2 q&a.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306
Please join the conversation at the end of the thread. Start at post 2221 and read from there. I feel you may have a view not yet expressed in the discussion. Please speak in there your opinion.
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Lol first of all you responded by asking why I would ask this question on xda ( refer back to YOUR original post) which in my mind is condescending and rude. Second if you really wanted to help you would have refered to that post in Q&A in your original response instead of being condescending and rude... so please, your not fooling anyone... I don't need any help from you. Seems I'm getting responses from other people on here who are actually here to help.
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pierrekid said:
Lol first of all you responded by asking why I would ask this question on xda ( refer back to YOUR original post) which in my mind is condescending and rude. Second if you really wanted to help you would have refered to that post in Q&A in your original response instead of being condescending and rude... so please, your not fooling anyone... I don't need any help from you. Seems I'm getting responses from other people on here who are actually here to help.
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Your first point, dead on. Second point, you obviously didn't go to the link I provided. Start at post number 2221 and read and post from there.
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boborone said:
Your first point, dead on. Second point, you obviously didn't go to the link I provided. Start at post number 2221 and read and post from there.
-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......
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Your second point about me not going there...dead on. This is my last post addressing you. Please leave.
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pierrekid said:
Your second point about me not going there...dead on. This is my last post addressing you. Please leave.
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In the discussion we talking about you.
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martonikaj said:
If he's on a G2 and on 2.2 the root really does only take about 15min start to finish. If he's on a DZ and has to downgrade etc. it can take much longer of course. On top of that, even if it takes an hour to do, its definitely worth everything it gets you.
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Why is it easier to do it on the g2 vs. Dz? Also some people say it takes long to achieve root, does it really only take 15 minutes?
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pierrekid said:
Why is it easier to do it on the g2 vs. Dz? Also some people say it takes long to achieve root, does it really only take 15 minutes?
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I did my dz in 15 mins, but I have done it 3 times. So I all ready have all the files downloaded. If you are doing it using adb depending on your internet connection downloading the android sdk can take a very long time. There is a way to do it with out adb (check the dev section) which should take about 1 hour including the time it takes to read the guide a few times and make sure everyting you need is set up correctly.
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