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Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
pandaxownage said:
Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
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Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
secano said:
Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
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why would you pick the HD2 over the tp2 though?
Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
Cal-El said:
Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
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what do you mean by harder screen? is the touch sensitivity better than the tp2?
TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
hawc1506 said:
TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
I have both at home and I choose HD2. But only because of screen size – I often watch movies in subway.
TP2:
HW keyboard is much more faster to write, don’t have to check for misspelled words.
Dual microphone (noise background canceling)
Stereo speakers
Can record calls as mp3
Resistive screen – big plus (there is no way how to comfortably use windows without stylus)
HD2
Big screen
No noise canceling option
You have to always check for misspelled words
Cant record calls !!
Very poor speaker !
Capacitive screen – very easy to break, no stylus possible – im missing stylus all the time
Faster processor and bigger RAM/ROM - big plus
hawc1506 said:
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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+1...same here
Honestly, I still have my TP2, but the only reason I tinker with it now is to test and troubleshoot things for that section of the forums.
makind1 said:
HD2
Cant record calls !!
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makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
I loved my TP2, I've been using WM for over 7 years now and the HD2 is the first device I have had with a capacitive screen. I loved using a stylus. After getting the HD2 I tried a the capacitive stylus from Pogo. I eventually stopped using it and I've gotten really used to just using my finger especially with Swype. I'm loving it, HD2 all the way.Its faster, more memory, the screen is gorgeous and the camera is amazing!! Flash too which the TP2 doesn't have.
pandaxownage said:
hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
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You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
sirphunkee said:
makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
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I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
zarathustrax said:
I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
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Yeah, apparently I had enabled the record button and created some recording files, but never tested them. When I created a new one just now, the file was there but there was no audio when I listened to it
hawc1506 said:
You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
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have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
Great thread, since I am having the same issue. One of my main concerns is whether the HD2 will work well with some of my old apps. The main ones I want to use are Listpro, Pocket Informant, and Phatnotes. I assume that PI shouldn't be an issue without a stylus, but how about the other ones. Would appreciate your thoughts.
pandaxownage said:
have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
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No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
hawc1506 said:
No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
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do you also have problems with your battery life? i currently have 2.13 and i had to soft reset for probably every few hours because it freezes up
dude i hav an HD and i brought the HD2 the hd2 is faster and holds more and its cheaper then wat u paid for the tp2 buy urself an hd2
i traded my TP2 for the HD2 and i kinda regret it because my HD2 crashes a lot and my TP2 never did that but who knows it might get better soon
If you can live without a keyboard, then hd2 all the way. MUCH faster. Installs apps a lot quicker. Great screen. So used to using a stylus so i really miss that but i am getting used to not using it. If your cool with no keyboard, by all means.. get the HD2! You won't regret it!
Nexus One has the multitouch problem. it's axis and coordination are a bit off when using multitouch.
I was never able to confirm this on my device because I was always on WiinMo; However, we have android now -d
Using the Android "Multitouch Visible Test" application from marketplace, I've noticed that everything seems to be working find on the HD2 and I am not getting any weird results.
Can anyone else confirm how theirs is doing?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-aria-multitouch-test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVyfKzv2o0&feature=player_embedded#!
lemonspeakers said:
Nexus One has the multitouch problem. it's axis and coordination are a bit off when using multitouch.
I was never able to confirm this on my device because I was always on WiinMo; However, we have android now -d
Using the Android "Multitouch Visible Test" application from marketplace, I've noticed that everything seems to be working find on the HD2 and I am not getting any weird results.
Can anyone else confirm how theirs is doing?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-aria-multitouch-test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVyfKzv2o0&feature=player_embedded#!
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I have tried and tested my HD2 (TMOUS) running Bangsters latest android ROM and I dont have a problem with MT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
the hd2 seems to pack better screen digitizer than most htc android devices even better than its sister the evo 4g look at this video and read the comments
multitouch issues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P9vMAvvkGY
touch sensor lag issues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo&feature=related
the hd2's touch screen really is impressive. as far as i can tell its just as good as the iphones touch screen.
i remember from having a g1 which used a cheaper capacitive screen only being able to register 2 points as long as they wernt on the same horizontal or vertical plane, if yuou did it would average out to the middle between the 2 fingers. so it wasnt a true multi touch screen.
can i remind you guys that this is development, this really belongs in the android general, or even q and a.
this forum really is getting littered with posts that do not belong, and its making finding usefull info difficult
Linkman8x said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
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Stop using the tip of your finger. Do you have dry hands? Use the pad of your finger as opposed to the tips.
PoisonWolf said:
Stop using the tip of your finger. Do you have dry hands? Use the pad of your finger as opposed to the tips.
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This issues is known by some HTC HD2. The installed display are not the same.
The problem is on Windows Mobile as well. I've tested other HD2 in Market, they dont have this issues.
Multitouch is great.
But when i play nova and have two touch dots on same y axis (in landscape) both dots move together along the y axis.
So when im moving with left pad and trying to look up on left ped im having problems.
I moved the walk and look pads in NOVA on different axis. But its harder to play that way than its originaly intended.
my HD2 in this test works wery well no faults with axis and lag is almost invisible
I have the same issues! ..the thing is.. i can't fix it.. there's no HTC in my country! if i send it by mail i would risk it would brake or never see it again!
Linkman8x said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
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Well then u have a HTC HD2 of the 1. or the 2. Generation
with the new one u have no Touchscreen issues
see YT for more informations
hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
chappersjohn said:
hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
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You should post this in the right section Android Q&A
The multi touch is a known issue. There are debates on whether or not the HD2 supports more than two fingers also, but that is irrelevant right now, as two finger multi touch doesn't even work properly. However we also don't know if it is the HD2 that simply can't handle the two finger touch or is it the drivers.
Now iunno if anyone is actually even going to bother with the problem as the only times the problem is an annoyance, is during gaming, but that is, gaming with a joystick and etc. So I don't think devs are actually going to bother with a problem they don't even know whether its the device or software.
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
The hd2 can only support 2 touches, there is no problem with axis inversion , although when the two points are close to each other they lock and that is a hardware problem
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
hentyanto said:
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
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No, can't be fixed. When the touch touches are near the same axis, they will both show touches on the same axis. Pretty sure it's a hardware problem. This is one of the big points I always tell people when they're trying to decide between HD2 and a native android phone, along with the fact the HD2 screen is only 56,000 colors compared to 4million a native device has.
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
chappersjohn said:
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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Why would you need a source, it has been proven changing the code wont do anything it is know that these panels have issues with point locking
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
chappersjohn said:
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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I'm not about to dig up old threads about the touchscreen driver development or irc logs... any of the devs that have worked on drivers for the touchscreen have said this. I remember seeing cotulla discussing it in irc sometime in the last few months. Touchscreen is not going to get any better than it is right now... there has been a lot of work on it over the last year and a half.
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
daevoq said:
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
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yeah, hardware normally doesnt change when moving to another os
M..N said:
...there is no problem with axis inversion , ..
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There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
well... let this multitouch be for pinch to zoom only but this issue is disturbing while normal tapping on the keyboard.... You tap next letter of your word and You don't release the previous letter so this "next" letter won't be recieved. The touch runs between my fingers, look :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTsvyRh3fqE
gogodu5sU said:
There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
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It is not single touch, it dual touch not true multitouch axis inversion is happening in the video as they are putting the fingers to code to the edge of the screen so its messing up.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Premium App
Is the keyboard multi-touch? Many keyboards aren't and can only receive a single input at a time so even if you type really quickly, you need to make sure you left one finger completely off the screen before typing the next. I can type pretty fast using the HTC_IME that comes with multi-touch. I mean, you can't hit "shift+a" to get a capital "A" but you can hit a key before letting go of another key and the keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
M..N said:
It is not single touch, it dual touch
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Dual touch mode allows a two sensor system to track the absolute location of two simultaneous events provided that they are located in different regions of the screen.
What you mean is Dual Control or Gesture Input aka pinch-to-zoom.
M..N said:
It is not true multitouch axis inversion
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yeah, it's virtual...your Multi Dual Touch...
h.nocturna said:
...keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
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because the first pressed button gets released first
When I was using MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND, i think, Multitouch was doing well. There were no such thing like multitouch problem, even while crossing the fingers. Now I'm using BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER 2.3.3_V10 and I have problem with multitouch. I'm 100% sure that I was using some ROM with well working multitouch. Maybe someone should check it?
Sorry for poor English...
Edit: I was not MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND. When i figure out, I will make a video for a prove.
where is the proof?
arhanghel92 said:
where is the proof?
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Umm I starting to think that i was dreaming... -.-'
Honestly i have no problems with multitouch either using Gingerbread .
There s a couple other things that are a lil quirky but nothing that would make it unusable
Sound control in notification area App...
Found this wee app today.
Might be handy for anyone who likes to customise their tabs to their own tastes.
Have not tried it yet, what do you think? any good?
http://www.tablified.com/music-video/volume-in-notification/
MJ-12
I do like the mute button, but is there some reason simply using the hardware keys do not suffice?
My hardware key broke. Still works but harder to press. Probly cuz ive flashed almost every ROM there was,i wore out the darn things!
g0t0 said:
My hardware key broke. Still works but harder to press. Probly cuz ive flashed almost every ROM there was,i wore out the darn things!
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Ah, makes total sense now lol.
Thanks you for this application
also useful if its docked/propped up/connected to a tv and you're using a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard/remote
very useful, thank you.
I have been using the Atrix for a few months. Last week, I have accessed to a Samsung Galaxy S2 and have played a few games with it. The touch screen on the S2 is very accurate and precise. In comparison, the Atrix touch screen is inaccurate and sluggish, especially if you're touching more than 1 point. This has nothing to do with the 10 seconds timeout that Motorola implemented. It's just the responseness on the touchscreen.
Tell me if i'm wrong, but don't we already have a MOD for that called "Touchscreen MOD (8 points)"
I saw it in the Dev thread under various roms like Darkside and WetDream.
Try it out and see if it helps
Install 'touchscreen booster' in market and select 'Super Optimized.'
Seems to make a difference here.
Notorious544d said:
Install 'touchscreen booster' in market and select 'Super Optimized.'
Seems to make a difference here.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&feature=search_result
this one?
On a side note do have an idea on what basis this app improves the touchscreen? its good to know how something works too.
roflestomp said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&feature=search_result
this one?
On a side note do have an idea on what basis this app improves the touchscreen? its good to know how something works too.
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Yeah that one. Don't know how it makes it better, but it works so who cares
Just installed. I have been having sensitivity issues along with the device acting like it is being touched along the left side of the screen.