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[Q] Mytouch or wait for samsung nexus 2?

I think I might hold off on the mytouch 4g for a couple of days until the announcement of the nexus 2. What you guys think?
source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/25/samsung-to-announce-a-new-android-device-on-november-8th/

Idk, I guess I would wait just to see what the Nexus 2 will look like, and the specs. But I think the myTouch 4G will still be the better device.

jovan285 said:
I think I might hold off on the mytouch 4g for a couple of days until the announcement of the nexus 2. What you guys think?
source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/25/samsung-to-announce-a-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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Samsung, YUCK!!! Get the HTC!!!

Dude get the MT4G, Nexus 2 isn't being announced on Nov. 8th (My birthday ). Whoever got the emails misinterpreted it. It's a Samsung Continuum.
There’s an ENORMOUS problem with this concept, the biggest of which being that it was dead wrong. Anyone who actually got the email from Samsung’s PR firm, or bothers to communicate with Samsung at all would know that the November 8th Samsung event is the launch of the Samsung Continuum. For those unaware, this device is completely Samsung, and a unique concept at that, but I will leave details out for the release.
In short guys, it’s bogus. The 8th will not yield a Nexus 2 and the Continuum will not have Gingerbread. Stay tuned though, it will still be a great party.
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Source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/28/debunking-the-nexus-s/

I am not sure whether is i9020 nexus II or not, but i9020 passed FCC with AWS band (good for T-Mobile and Wind), so this phone will be on my purchase list.

I love mine. Would not trade for a nexus 1 but the nexus 2 may have a 1.5 Ghz processor when it launches. This time it isn't supposed to be on online exclusive either. No confirmation on that so don't hold me to it. Lol.
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i'm debating this as well. If the nexus 2 has better specs than my vibrant, I might just get that, but for now i'm leaning towards the 4g.

Even if the specs were similar, I might lean towards the upcoming Nexus phone because it will be unlocked and ready for root.
That will take half of the work and danger out of customization and I bet you will see a lot of community mods aimed at the device.
Nothing against the MyTouch, but HTC needs to offer you something in exchange for dealing with their bloatware and restrictions on the phone. Maybe some killer app or interface?

the nexus 2/S will also have the latest version of android. the mytouch will probably have to wait several months to see an upgrade.

Talk about ignorance, everyone hears Samsung as the manufacturer and automatically think the Nexus 2 is gonna suck. If it's going to be an actual Google phone, then Google will be doing the software updates and such. Damn people, stop the hate on Samsung because it's getting really annoying.
If Samsung is going to announce it, then just wait. You'll only have to wait one week, that's all. It's not like it'll be the end of the world within that time frame.

I doubt that it is the Nexus 2, Google said it isn't happening, the people are Gizmodo are like the troll on this forum; MY FRIEND IS A TMO EMPLOYEE AND HE SAYS SAMSUNG VIBRANT WON'T GET FROYO TIL NEXT YEAR. no, be patient, even then the Nexus can't have more than a first gen humming bird or a second gen snapdragon/scorpion. And if the nexus two is coming, and you want it... the event is on the 8th, return the mt4g and wait for the new device... its not really hard to do lol
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Thanks For Making my life easier. That was the exact EXCRUTIATING worry going thru my head.
That is what I will do.
Bottom line: The Nexus Two will be a great phone. Most agree HTC makes more solid (i.e. built like a brick ****house) and appealing phones (tmo employee and I agreed) phone.
But with the Nexus two being great, the best phone to date and will be for a year so they say, STILL, the Mytouch 4g is top notch until it comes out, Correct? (please validate me LOL ) And if I were to keep the Mytouch, the Nexus is not all THAT better is it
Do you know or can u find out if they will make that foolish mistake of NO Flash
Do you know why they would do that, being a Senior member on here
Again , Thank You and have a great Halloween

DKYang said:
Talk about ignorance, everyone hears Samsung as the manufacturer and automatically think the Nexus 2 is gonna suck. If it's going to be an actual Google phone, then Google will be doing the software updates and such. Damn people, stop the hate on Samsung because it's getting really annoying.
If Samsung is going to announce it, then just wait. You'll only have to wait one week, that's all. It's not like it'll be the end of the world within that time frame.
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Perfectly stated. That is exactly what I plan to do. I would have waited at least a week to get the MT4g anyway. I need to read at least 100 reviews, and see video samples, photo samples, yada, yada ...to death.
If Samsung anounces the Google Experience phone in the interim, so much the better, and I wait. Having owned the Vibrant for a month, I would love a Google Experience Samsung phone. I'm sure Google would ensure it's done right.

I read the pros and cons on Cnet and it seems like HTC's speakerphone still sucks. Meaning, it is low just like with the G1. I hope its not true, since HTC does make good hardware, but low speaker volume sucks.

I don't profess to know nearly as much as most on here...but fwiw, my friends old mytouch slide, which he had for a week before he opted for the Vibrant, ...he LOVED the music player and the volume on it and the speaker in general. The speakerphone technology itself could change that

http://www.thirdage.com/news/nexus-2-rumors-squashed-samsung_11-1-2010
GF?

Nexus S or LG Optimus 2X

So I'm debating what the next phone is that I want to get. Should I either get the Nexus S or wait and get the LG Optimus 2X when it comes out.
Pros of Nexus S: Cyanogen, 'nuf said.
Cons of Nexus S: Not that much more that the N1 really. I currently have an N1.
Pros of Optimus 2X: Tegra2, 1080p, etc.
Cons of Optimus 2X: not even out yet so unknown at this point.
I'd love to hear what you all have to say on the matter, thoughts, criticisms, pros/cons, etc.

Just wait! In all likelihood, the price of the Nexus S will go down by the tIme the LG comes out.
Plus, you'll have to see how LG will modify Android too

I'd wait on the optimus 2x. It'll probably be great, but you don't want to be one of the people to find out first that it isn't. Wait a week after release, read reviews, then buy.
On the other hand, if you're satisfied with the nexus s reviews, get it. Sure, it won't have the highest specs in a month, but that doesn't mean it'll be trash.
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you know this is the nexus ONE section? :L

I'd go for the Optimus

As it stands, the LG. It's a monster.

Between the two...hands down the LG Optimus.

I'd take the LG, but imo LG phones are bad. I've had several and never had a good experience. Their UI isn't great either, but like I said it's all opinion. So.. I would wait for reviews or wait a bit longer after that for something even better

I would say the lg also. Digging how the tegra is shaping up. Just not sure about lg's build quality, or if there will be support from the community here. Comm support is a must for me since Im learning as I go.
I think this is relevant to the N1 forum since op is asking about what to get after it.

Idk. I just got the MT4G a month ago. I plan on getting a new phone when an HTC phone with the 1.5Ghz dual core Snapdragons are released. It depends on how often you upgrade. If you get a new phone every 6 months, I'd get the Nexus, but if you're the type to wait out your contract I'd say the LG.
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I tend to get a new phone every year, contract up or not. Kind of depends on funds at the time.
I'm agreeing that the LG is going to be a monster, but am afraid that there will not be the community support that the N1/S has. So far, Cyan seems to focus on HTC devices, and I really like what Cyan does.
So far, I prefer vanilla Android with tweaks here and there such that ADW does, but don't like the interfaces that Moto, and Samsung, etc use. So if someone comes out with a good custom ROM for the LG, I'm there.
I have a feeling though that as soon as I get my tax return, I'm going to get antsy and end up getting the Nexus S, won't be able to wait for the LG to come out, then it'll come out and I'll be all disappointed. At the same time though, all these bad ass Android phones have come out that are superior the the N1, but because of the community support, I haven't been too disappointed to regret having gotten the N1.
In the end, I think it boils down to community support, with the NS will have plenty of that the LG may not.

It's a no brainer, got to be the LG 2X.
The Samsung NS looks like a soap dish.

First, this is in the wrong section I think..
Second and most importantly, we have no idea how rootable the Optimus 2X will be... if it's totally locked down, how would you feel about not being able to mod it?

uansari1 said:
First, this is in the wrong section I think..
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I disagree, who better to ask what I should get after having and N1 for a year, than other people who have an N1 and might also be thinking to get another phone.
uansari1 said:
Second and most importantly, we have no idea how rootable the Optimus 2X will be... if it's totally locked down, how would you feel about not being able to mod it?
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That's kind of why I was posing the question, others might have a better idea as to how LG is with their devices and if they tend to be easy or hard to root, good/bad build quality, warranty and support issues. Is LG lenient with software hack like HTC is, or are they strict and won't service a phone that's been rooted.
I understand that the phone isn't out, but I'm trying to start my research early to start building a mental image of what my options are so that I can make a well informed choice when the time comes, instead of buying something just because it's there and everyone is talking about it.

Your cool in this section bro. But if your leaning toward the Ns, then I would wait for the next HTC device...just a thought

I loved my Nexus One, but the S blows it out of the water. I love my Nexus S.

mortzz said:
I loved my Nexus One, but the S blows it out of the water. I love my Nexus S.
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didnt you have a n1 with a test build of gingerbread? how do the two compare since you ran gb on the n1...

whatever you do, wait until march 2011 or so ... by then a couple of tegra-2 phones will be out and the mistake of the Samsung Nexus S will be long forgotten.
I'm keeping my Nexus One until then

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didnt you have a n1 with a test build of gingerbread? how do the two compare since you ran gb on the n1...
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The S is smoother, the animations are much better, and it's snappier. This is all due to the improved hardware.
It's the same Gingerbread experience though. I'm badgering my friend to hook me up with Honeycomb.
The software is identical, but the S takes much better advantage of it.

MitchRapp said:
whatever you do, wait until march 2011 or so ... by then a couple of tegra-2 phones will be out and the mistake of the Samsung Nexus S will be long forgotten.
I'm keeping my Nexus One until then
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Mistake?
Fanboys be fanboying.

goodby to g2 and hello for new nexus S :D

I love this phone but I need a new upgrade for this year
it is a best choise?! nexus S?

If I were to replace my DZ, I'd want to wait for something significantly better, like one of the dual core monsters coming out this year, such as the LG Optimus 2X. And even then, I'd wait to see if it got any dev support first.
Having said that, there is a benefit to having the current Google dev phone, ie. being the first to get OS updates.

setspeed said:
If I were to replace my DZ, I'd want to wait for something significantly better, like one of the dual core monsters coming out this year, such as the LG Optimus 2X. And even then, I'd wait to see if it got any dev support first.
Having said that, there is a benefit to having the current Google dev phone, ie. being the first to get OS updates.
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Yeah, but it is Samsung that we are talking about, right? From what I have heard about what they are doing to the vibrant, I would NEVER go to Samsung. Did you read the article on AndroidSPIN about what their tipster said? Heres the article http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/ . After reading that, I don't think that I will ever buy a Samsung phone again. But I did read on another site that the Nexus S is by Google, Samsung just makes the hardware but Google makes the software, and that the Nexus S is Google's Baby and that they will get all the latest software updates first.

also check this out.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045 (but do not take as fact as no1 can confirm anything)
But yeah, as SETSPEED said you will/should get updates 1st,... but that is about the only benefit I can see.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Yeah, but it is Samsung that we are talking about, right? From what I have heard about what they are doing to the vibrant, I would NEVER go to Samsung. Did you read the article on AndroidSPIN about what their tipster said? Heres the article http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/ . After reading that, I don't think that I will ever buy a Samsung phone again. But I did read on another site that the Nexus S is by Google, Samsung just makes the hardware but Google makes the software, and that the Nexus S is Google's Baby and that they will get all the latest software updates first.
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I came from a vibrant and there are issues that still have not been fixed by samsung like the gps on the phone, so if there is one screw loose in the nexus s I would avoid it at all costs since their current track record for repairs is not that great. BUT it will be a developer phone if I remember right if not correct me, so as far as software updates go it seems like it would be the first to get them like the nexus did before it just do some research first man im a lil pissed at sammy still gonna be a long time b4 i get another samsung phone

i don talk about vibrante...only nexus S

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i don talk about vibrante...only nexus S
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the vibrant is even better than the nexus s in ways. lol

Why would u want a Nexus S? Have you not seen the phones coming in 2011? Nexus S is nothing but a vibrant with a front cam. Id hang on to your G2 and wait for something dual core coming later this year.
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Yeah, to me its not a good move at this point but to each his own I guess. I would say to at least wait for MWC in February before making any phone decisions, which will give you a good idea what to expect in the first half of this year. I'm an early adopter to a fault as well and even I think that is crazy.
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First of all, can't believe someone is already tired of a phone less than six months old. But you definitely need to go dual core, and stay far away from Samsung.
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I wouldn't get a Nexus S. I bet as soon as I got one a "Nexus S 4g" would be released.
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I went the opposite way, and I can't be happier. The Nexus S was just a trashy phone.

Do you still hate Samsung?

Samsung sent its base 2.2 upgrade to T-Mobile in late November
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According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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November citation: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
froyo release date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Update_history

YES, still never purchasing another Samsung product.

Oddly I'm the opposite of the OP. I've been with T-Mo for 11+ years and been pretty happy with them overall. Having had HTC phones in the past, I will probably look at their next offering when I'm eligible for an update. While I love that the Vibrant has been so easy to mod, they've left a bad taste in my mouth.

Don't hate them, but I will most likely not be buying anything from them again.
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I do still hate them. I don't actually have froyo yet so they are still lying lol.
Sent from my peice of **** Samsung galaxy phone with out a ****ing single ducking hint of ****ing froyo where the only thing worth doing is using XDA App

Yeah i dont hate them but I will probably not buy another phone from them. I am eyeballing the LG Optimus 2X....

Of course I do, I don't have official froyo, so there still BSing ;]
Anywho, I don't like Tmobile, Samsung is Alright.

I wouldn't buy another Samsung phone that left them solely in charge of the updates. I actually do like T-Mobile though. Don't mind the 5gb cap either since I've began only using wifi in my appartment my usage has gone down from nearly 6gb a month to around 1gb.
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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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ferhanmm said:
According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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So you cite wikipedia for your Froyo information, but you don't cite the original quote in the thread?
Citation pls.

I don't hate Samsung, I just don't trust them - Just look at their track record. Will look hard at HTC or Moto at upgrade time - Depends on what is out but Samsung products will be out of the question. Once bitten, twice shy...
Been with T-Mo a long time - Have a sweet deal on my plan for 4 phones...

No source code for anything yet = still hate Samsung.

I do not trust Samsung and do not intend to purchase them again. I will be leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X or the LG Black. The only way I would want to buy Samsung again is if they have a dual core Nexus S2 with vanilla android and external sd card and Google is in charge of the updates etc. I am also very interested in the LG 4G tablet coming to T Mobile.

I guess I'm in the minority -- I have no issues w/Samsung and have been pretty happy w/my Vibrant. Yes, 2.2 has taken an awfully long time...but I always knew I could flash it if I really wanted/needed something in 2.2 -- and ultimately, I did.
Seems to me the only phones that don't go through this are the official dev phones (Nexus); why, I still remember when T-Mobile was hinting that 2.x would come to the G1.
I would definitely buy another Samsung.

Will never buy another Samsung phone. Love T-Mobile though. Next phone will be an HTC.

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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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Um sorry sir you are sadly mistaken, Apple used the bumpers as a cover up. Don't get me wrong i love Apple but they said there was nothing wrong with their antennas as well. So they are just as "wrong as samsung"
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I won't be buying another Samsung phone, even if the next one comes with a 10MP Camera, 1.4GHz Processor, 1GB of RAM and a 4.5" screen. I don't trust them anymore. I also have mixed feelings about T-Mobile.. I've been with them for 7 years...

Still hate samsung even if we go receive 2.2, I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANOTHER SAMSUNG PHONE!!

I used to hate Samsung, but their smartphone hardware is great (AMOLED baby!).
NS is one of my favorite phone and it has Samsung hardware with Google software.

never have/ will hate them.
They just disappointed me. thats all, but im sure they made it up by this update...

This is why i'm going back to sammy

http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .

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http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .
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and htc isnt how?
http://www.htcdev.com/ all bootloaders have been signed and they where going to encrpyt them and now they arnt so congrats for samsung for being the biggest marketing people to get everyone to buy their POS products so enjoy your darker darks and your yellow whites on your sammy not trying to be a **** just putting my two cents out their and showing you but have fun on wiz cause thats what i wanna do on samsung haha

Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....

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Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....
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This, & Sammy gave the dev a GSM model, which doesn't mean **** for us CDMA users, & if you don't agree then just go ask the devs in the Epic forum who are still trying their damndest to get CM7 fully running while the Captivate & Vibrant both has been fully blessed by Cyanogen hisself.
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this thread is terrible.

Poor misinformed soul.....

It's a promising sign but I'm not sure I'm quite convinced that Samsung is trying to change their ways. Of course, we also have no proof that HTC is going to truly unlock their bootloaders either.

My experience with 3 stock Samsung Android phones on Sprint has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
1. I had the original "Moment" from day 1. Paid $475 for it and had nothing but problems.
2. My wife has the "Transform" (I gave Samsung a mulligan for the Moment since it was 1st generation....) -- big mistake, almost as crappy as the Moment.
3. My Daughter has the "Intercept" -- got it at the same time as the Transform (so I did not have a chance to see that the Moment was more a precursor to the craptastic to come rather than a "one off" mistake.
Even without rooting and romming -- the EVO is head and shoulders above any of the Samsung phones I have seen. As far as being able to actually use it without weird things happening.
Yes....I said it --- that is the downfall of Samsung phones...."Weird things happen at a very slow pace, and even doing basic things like making a phone call or sending a text becomes a huge undertaking."
Had I not known better (owning other Android devices) -- could have sworn that Samsung was trying to make Android look like a steaming, buggy, not ready for prime time, piece of crap OS....When in fact it is not that at all.
As a last desperate measure before purchasing my EVO....I rooted and installed a custom ROM on my Moment -- and it actually was a pretty good experience to turn it into a device I could at least make phone calls on and send texts (which was worlds above stock Moment -- even though the GPS no longer worked.) So I can at least thank Samsung for forcing me to discover the world of custom roms.

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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.

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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.
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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.

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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.
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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?

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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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That I don't know. Good question.

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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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Official, no. Testing, yes. Samsung could easily give a CDMA developer the device, but it'll be discreet until the carrier announcement. This was a good move by Samsung, but don't forget about the Nexus One and EVO 4G. Classy move by Samsung, but nothing HTC haven't done before and more.
Sent from the EVO 3D with Sprint.

Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..

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Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..
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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.

How is the screen on the 3d compared to a super amoled. I tried reading specs but have no idea what they mean. I just wanna be able to actually see my phone when I'm outside.

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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.
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Yeah, hope your right..really do. To me it comes down to the camera quality and video quality...cause other than that the only thing it has going thats appreciatively better than my rooted gingerbread 4G!...is pixel density and that its faster.
To me the dealbreaker is how much better are its multimedia capabilities...(2D..not 3D)...cause this things (GS2) is crystalclear brilliant!

I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.

Stuke00 said:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Ignorance..

Stuke00 said:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Cheap ****s
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