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[Q] HELP!! I was going good until these came along!!!

Ladies & gentlemen;
Good day!
Well, I am one of those who admire the XDA BIG TIIIMMEE!! However I have an HD2 and managed to have it as a NAND Android after the help of the XDA (as usual of course!) Anyway when I started looking for new ROMs I have noticed that there is new method or way which I do not grasp, comprehend and assimilate AT ALL....ZIP that is, such as [A2SD+], NAND SD and ClockworkMod.Recovery!!!
What is the difference between running Android on NAND & SD with ClockworkMod?!
I am sorry people because truly I must have missed threads or the way of understanding, so hopefully you'll going to be the teacher of mine for now and always!
Could anyone help me as if I am 7 years old?!!!
THANK YOU XDA & Members!!!!

Android nand is running off internal memory. Sd option is what it says, a build running off your sd card opposed to running it with nand.

Thank you for your explanation, but does that mean if the Android runs off internal memory would make the running proccess faster or it would hepl smoothen applications response?! What is the use if I already have the internal memory, wouldn't be even better off?!

Hello
SD Builds start to boot from SD card while being on WM6.5. The hardware shutsdown WinMo and runs Android on it.
NAND Builds run from the internal memory of the phone(just like where WinMo was before)
RAM Builds load all the OS from the SD Card inside the RAM.
[A2SD+] means that you can use a small ext2,ext3 or ext4 partition in your SD Card for increasing your internal storage memory for installing more apps... so this means more internal space.
ClockworkMod is a small linux-based booting utility allowing users to install Android Builds on-the-go which are stored as zip packages on the SD Card. It allows you to install new kernels as update.zip packages as well without having to re-format your entire phone again, or just to erase all personal data on the sd-ext partition.
So, in fact a lot of things have changed in the last 3 months... these are just a few features i can tell you about every method, but at least I hope this will help you to understand quickly a bit about all that.

You know!!?? I Thank you all guys!!!!

NAND runs off the internal memory and even though you get much lower Quadrant scores, NAND is much more responsive and smooth.
The only reason SD based builds get more Quadrant is because of I/O speeds thanks to the SD card.
SD builds are fast, but NAND builds are much SMOOTHER and reliable and if you can do something on SD, you can do it just as well on NAND (gaming for example).

[Q] device memory extension?

Hi guys, this was my first flashing/phone fiddling mission and it all went very well (yay!). i used this particular build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913597 (v3.4)
and installed using nand, but is there anyway i can extend the device memory as i cant seem to move many apps onto the memory card and the device memory is filling up quite quickly. is there a way of partitioning the SD card to do this and will it require me to re flash the rom?
thanks in advance for your help!
Ben

[Q] SD Card mode from NAND mode

Hello All....
I have installed android on my HD2, via NAND, and found that i suddenly ran out of space, and i cant install any apps. This is obviously due to a large rom, loaded onto the phone. I therefore started invetigating android via SD card. What should i do as precaution not to brick, or where can i find a guide to going to sd method from the NAND method.
Or alternatively, if you can help me with my partition sizes, for when i reflash android that i actually have some space. If someone can give me a breakdown of what the partitions must look like...
while this may be easy for others, i am a noob on the hd2-android..
a Speedy response would be highly appreciated...
thanks

Here is a decent walk-through on how to dual boot with Windows Phone 7 (with WP7 being on NAND and Android being on SD). He covers pretty well the partitioning processes that are needed. I haven't tried it out myself, cause my HD2 is being shipped to me currently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTHRAUHZHlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTMry4NEPTE

You don't have to partition your card for most SD roms. If the Rom requires partitioning it will tell you in the instructions. You can boot SD roms through magdlr as well. Just copy root folder of Rom ("Android") to root of SD, then in magdlr go to services>SD boot settings and ensure it is pointed at you Android directory. Then select ad sd boot and it should boot from there.
P.S. If you intend to keep your nand install, you will need to rename your Android sd folder to something other than Android. Be sure to change the directory in magdlr to match the new name of your folder. This worked for me. I am currently running a nand build and a sd build and both run great.
Cheers

What about apps to sd????
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[Q] Run SD version from internal phone memory

I've been running SuperRAM v2.2 for a while and I like it. It runs off an SD card, but loads everything into RAM so it is quite fast. My question is can i copy the android folder to my phones internal memory instead of using an SD card. I have about 600MB of space and the android folder is only ~400MB. Has anybody done this before. I'm a little hesitant to try, I don't want a paperweight.
Thanks
P.S. I am not talking about flashing a ROM to the NAND memory. I still want WM6.5.

thats not possible mate. You cannot run both WM and Android off the phone's ROM.and about converting that SD build to make it run off the internal memory, it will require lots of modding in the build. But that would defeat the purpose of your build, which is designed to push files and operation to the RAM. Plus i used to run that build for a long time and i have to say its as fast as a NAND build, so i dont think its worth all that trouble. You can however, port other SD builds to RAM builds,if you are interested. Hope this helps!

I don't think the op means converting it to nand, the impression I get is he wants to run it as an SD build but with haret and the Android files in the winmo internal storage instead of on the SD card.

oh i see. tks for clearing it up. But, still, i doubt u can run haret.exe from the internal mem. Besides, the Android folder should be about 100-200MB+ so, its gonna hamper the internal memory space as well,unless youve got a TMOUS HD2 which has 1GB of storage.

Yes samsamuel that is what I am asking about, and I do have a Tmobile HD2. Ill be going back to this soon because for me the NAND builds are no where near as fast. Has alone had good lucky with other RAM builds?

[Q] Install android on internal storage without sd card?

Hi guys,
I have an old HTC HD2 and today i have been trying to find a version of android that installs on the internal memory (NOT on the sdcard, which I don't have). I think it has to be a DAF file? On several sites and tutorials I have seen people having some version of android installed on the phone, but i have been looking on here for a few hours now but I'm not able to find any... Does it still exist? I already task29 my phone so i think it's completely formatted and has no OS on it now, so If anyone knows a link to a android version that can be installed on the phone memory without sd card, it would help me a lot!
Thanks in advance!

I think those builds are still available, but you need to search in the very od threads. ANd you need to make sure it is Sense 1.0 because newer versions are larger so either you would not have enough space for user data or the ROM would not fit internal storage anyway.