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TouchFlo (Manila) will die ... "HTC Sense" is on the way!

Hi everybody,
i just found this http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=103534&lang=1033
If you scroll down a little bit you'll find:
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance peoples lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected.
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A nice Video can be watched here (ok ... it's Hero => Android, but should look similiar on WinMo-Devices ... except Multi-Finger-Gestures)
Watch how it works with Flash here
IMHO this looks very promising
@Developers:
What do you think ... will this be running on our belowed Blackstones?
@Mods:
If this is the wrong Forum, please move this Thread.
Thanks in advice.
kind regards
fwt
PS: I'm off for a short Holiday ... better said long Weekend. Having some recreation!

fwt said:
Hi everybody,
i just found this http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=103534&lang=1033
If you scroll down a little bit you'll find:
A nice Video can be watched here (ok ... it's Hero => Android, but should look similiar on WinMo-Devices ... except Multi-Finger-Gestures)
Watch how it works with Flash here
IMHO this looks very promising
@Developers:
What do you think ... will this be running on our belowed Blackstones?
@Mods:
If this is the wrong Forum, please move this Thread.
Thanks in advice.
kind regards
fwt
PS: I'm off for a short Holiday ... better said long Weekend. Having some recreation!
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Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device

I bet that 90% of the cooked HD-roms will contain that interface within the next 6 months
And it looks very promising
greetz

It is new UI for Android OS, HTC loves to make UI for different OS
Windows Mobile ==> Touch FLO 3D
Android ==> HTC Sense
I love it's analog clock
I want it

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device
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Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh

touch flo is old now, we want to see something new on wm.

NRGZ28 said:
Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh
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That sounds petty cool !
Did your preview ROM (released as a preview around the 16th june) is built using Manila or is it a WM version of HTC sense ?
I used it a few hours and was very nice

Yep
That would be also cool if htc would make a plugin system for manila (on futur htc sense) like on WM6.5 main interface to make it easy to develop new tabs (I want a twitter tab )

NRGZ28 said:
Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh
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looks like you have seen something???

it won't take long until my blackstone is found on ebay... i think i was just waiting for the "reason"... and here it is! amazing, amazing software. i feel pity of the current windows mobile when i look at iphone and android's OS... ah! not to mention the marvelous Palm Pre.

i thought it is for android? HTC Hero is an android rite?

citrix80 said:
touch flo is old now, we want to see something new on wm.
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i second that and i thought i read somewhere that it is coming to WM as well so keep fingers crossed

It's pretty much just a reshuffled Touch Flo with more fancy effects, I won't say no when it's availiable but nor am I going to desperate to get my hands on it.

Samsung Jet will play flash pages
Nokia N97 will play flash pages
Windows cannot dissappointed to find out after getting the first PPC

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device
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You wil see it soon on a Windows Mobile Phone with android running on it

hey, just ordered a blackstone a few days ago... and saw HTC sense today. I just want it! what do you think, will HTC sense be available for the blackstone too?
just read the posts above, maybe it will be available, maybe there will be a new WM touchflo version... in your opinion, should I leave my order, buy a blackstone and hope for HTC sense made available for it, or should I wait for more HTC sense devices like the hero?
a really really hard decision!
thx!

This is another reason why we need Android on the HD. HTC Sense is so much more fluid and finger friendly.

absolutely. this is a MUST HAVE. can't imagine better then HD with sense...

LOL - Talk about wishful thinking.
HTC no longer support the Touch HD, theres no way you're going to see such an update for it.

would be interesting where you've read/heard/got that info? I just read an article, John Wang: "HTC Sense will be available for Android AND Windows Mobile devices in the near future." (tecchannel.de, in german)

HTC Hero interface

any chance to get it working on rhodium??
see the video...
http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA38603/htc_hero_arriva_il_terzo_android_con_nuova_interfaccia.shtml

Nice interface, but I think it's a very long way off any hope of being ported for the Rhodium, and thats if anyone sees it as a great advantage. It would be a massive project.
Seems to be largely based on TF3D, just remoulded, and probably re-engineered. Looks a lot smoother, but then again it's only a video and they can make it look as smooth as they like! Certainly has all the trademarks of a HTC interface though....like a cross between TF3D and PointUI.
When is this device out anyway? It would be typical of HTC to announce a new one, only weeks after we've all forked out for our Rhodiums!

here's hoping HTC bundle something similar with their 6.5 update for the rhodium!

We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )

jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2

lhwparis said:
jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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i hope so...but knowing htc i think the new interface will be available for new devices (devices released after the HTC Hero...)...i hope im wrong...

I don't think so, they have promised upgrades to 6.5 for diamond 2 and touch pro 2 owners (as part of the sales blurb) and i imagine this is their big push at doing something different, creating a consistent user interface throughout their range regardless of OS.
I think they really want to dominate and they're certainly doing a good job so far.
Now if only I could get flash working with the default browser...

dazkeirle said:
We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..

Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort

this Hero (HTC Sense) really really adorable
Tried android with Raphael, i love the new OS experience

dazultra2000 said:
Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
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Exactly – thx God for XDA developers :-D
sometimes I wonder whether any other platform has such a great support .. well who cares … we DO :-D

Mashe said:
yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
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...as i said...

thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too

lhwparis said:
thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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and if not that XDA will (hopefully)

Do want!
Looks like a big improvement over TF3D.
Hopefully we'll get this in the official 6.5 upgrade...

yes yes
Lightbulb HTC Hero TF3D Manila 2.1 V2.0 on TP2
it works on mine TP2
cab fils @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538826

I believe this is called PointSense...
You can see more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542107
Apparently this works but it's slower than the TF3D

htc sense on polaris

is there any rom with htc sense on it?
i mean something good like the rom that the htc hd2 have....

Try [29-Sep] pcarvalho rom

"Sense" is only the new name of former "manila 3D". On pcarvalho-ROM manila 2D is included. Nearly the same without 3D-effects.

Bib_x said:
"Sense" is only the new name of former "manila 3D". On pcarvalho-ROM manila 2D is included. Nearly the same without 3D-effects.
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Wrong!!
Sense is the new UI made by htc used in most recent android devices...
I dont think its possible to cook it but ther´s a way to use it in our Polaris...search the forum

Read and learn:
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/...h-htc-sense-and-4-3-capacitive-touch-display/
“At HTC we believe that the best things in life should be experienced, not explained. HTC Sense is based on this principle by making the phone more simple and natural to use and by enabling people to personalise their mobile experience in their own unique way,” commented Peter Chou, CEO for HTC Corporation. With HTC Sense, the HTC HD2 melds the power and flexibility of the Windows platform with the most advanced phone we’ve ever created.”
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I just learned some guy decided to call touch flo 2.6 wich is part of HTC Sense™ development....sense UI.Different things.
This is the sense UI i know and most people know...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/htc-hero-details-begin-leaking-from-htcs-own-website/
Now take your own conclusions i wont make this a debate...

HTC Sense on Polaris ?
Guys, I have seen that the HTC HD2 rom has been installed on the HTC Touch HD.
Why not on the HTC Polaris then?
Any ideas?

as the hd/hd2 are wvga(800x480) we have qvga(320x240) therefore it will need to have all of the graphics resized. Then there is the 3d issue which with some searching you will find out. Then there is the memory issue hd has twice ram/rom hd2 has ~3x both. so that is why it wont work.
Quite simple really

Porting Android Sense to Maemo

Hi
I know its HTC dedicated forum, but since there is lots of hi skilled chefs I would like to ask a question. Will it be hard to port HTC Sense from Android to Meamo?
N900 seems to be a very nice piece of hardware but Maemo lacks the polishness of HTS Sence ....
Best
M

TurasPl said:
Hi
I know its HTC dedicated forum, but since there is lots of hi skilled chefs I would like to ask a question. Will it be hard to port HTC Sense from Android to Meamo?
N900 seems to be a very nice piece of hardware but Maemo lacks the polishness of HTS Sence ....
Best
M
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+1 ....

TurasPl said:
Hi
I know its HTC dedicated forum, but since there is lots of hi skilled chefs I would like to ask a question. Will it be hard to port HTC Sense from Android to Meamo?
N900 seems to be a very nice piece of hardware but Maemo lacks the polishness of HTS Sence ....
Best
M
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I doubt it'll happen. It hasn't even been ported to the Touch Pro 2 nevermind Maemo phones.

lacks the polish? how so? Meamo might just be the strongest standalone OS on a phone. Its almost a down grade to go to android, give it some time, that maemo community is almost as stong as the XDA community.

Well
I do not want to say bad world on maemo. Just i am missing a few things ...
like
Vertical menu
Dialer which looks directly into phone book - like on WinMo device
Nice clock app
Maybe this all will come with updates. And also - I do not talk about moving to Android - I am talking about portin Sense app to maemo. Secne is just the app like TouchFlo ...
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TurasPl said:
Well
I do not want to say bad world on maemo. Just i am missing a few things ...
like
Vertical menu
Dialer which looks directly into phone book - like on WinMo device
Nice clock app
Maybe this all will come with updates. And also - I do not talk about moving to Android - I am talking about portin Sense app to maemo. Secne is just the app like TouchFlo ...
M
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sorry I must i just misunderstood, I thought u said u wanted HTC sense from andriod ported to maemo (edit, it is what u asked). What you're really asking for you would more likely find over in the Maemo.org forum. I would figure it being pretty tough being as though the n900 has no softkeys or hardkeys other than the keyboard. The only reason I didn't opt for a n900 was because of the landscape orientation of the phone, otherwise it was everything i've ever wanted in a phone. I wish windows could multitask so efficiently. Hope u find what u want heres a good place to start

N900 running android(Dual-Boot)
It's somewhat old news, but it appears that someone managed to get android running on the N900.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/23/android-dual-boot-could-make-nokia-n900-jack-of-two-trades/
Edit:
Check out the blog of the person responsible for this.
http://blog.broberts.com/nokia-n900-with-maemo-and-android-yes-please

Windows Mobile on the Hero?

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.

Not possible, there are other threads on it if you search.

meirionwyllt said:
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
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Hero may be a downgrade then, worse screen.

I had the diamond...
Hero with android is so much better
With 2.1 Rom.. it kills the HTC Diamond

i have had the Td2 and the hero and the hero wins easily!

meirionwyllt said:
Call me old-fashioned
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Old-Fashioned !

since there are (from the hardware specs point of view) great winmo phones, why would you want to go through the trouble of putting winmo on a hero? the hero is a great phone, but if you want winmo (god knows why...) just get a winmo phone, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
this is not bashing, this is asking why.

1. don't get the Hero if you're happy with windows mobile. no point.
2. get the Hero and forget about that crap.
ex owner of Diamond here
Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

winmo is immposible to install on hero becasue of hardware and kernel ..

Why would you want to spoil your Hero by installing an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning? I used to have the TD - the Hero is just so much better for both hardware and software.
As others have said if you want to stick with WM there are plenty of HTC WM phones out there - get one of those instead of the Hero

buy a fake chinese hero which is identical to hero (I think - only saw it on a video) and has winmo 6.5 pro

Thanks for your answers.
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it because of my old-fashioned nature and wanting to stick with MS. But then I thought of asking about the ROM just in case.
"an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning?" - I hope you are right, that MS are indeed abandoning it in favour of Windows Phone 7. I hope it's a complete re-write of the code, rather than what MS usually do and regenerate old code and put it into "new" OS's.
Thanks
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.

Windows mobile 7 is completely new, but will not work on any existing handsets.
back to android.
Android is great, fully customisable and there is no reason not to love it.

meirionwyllt said:
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it .
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Exactly what happened with me - it was going on Ebay and I was keeping the TD, until I made one mistake and did this
meirionwyllt said:
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
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One little play and I was hooked.
In use the capacitive screen is so much better - do not believe those who say it is a worse screen because it has less resolution. In fact ease of use of the screen is the one thing that I always envied iphone users for when I watched them swipe easily between screens without ever accidently switching on an app.
And Android, especially with HTC's SenseUI, is much better than WM. Because of the WM interface (which HTC did their best to hide) I used my TD mainly as a phone and did not get the best out of it because of that. Now I use my Hero for a lot more. And I have not missed my old stylus one bit - I just let my fingers do the walking.
Let us know how you get on with your little play - try the market and see how easy it is to get all sorts of weird and wonderful apps that you never realised you needed, but you will find indispensible once you've got them. I bet you will be androided.