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Official WM 6.1 upgrade for Touch ?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/01/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-1-device-upgrades/

Yes.
Just follow the link:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx

From the article:
Industry Embraces Windows Mobile 6.1
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• HTC: A new Touch Dual for the U.S. and updates for the AT&T Tilt, Touch by HTC, Mogul by HTC from Sprint, TyTN II
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Touch by HTC, so yes

Update
How and when can i update my device???

How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.

Biffert said:
How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.
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Ok, but is the releasing date soon or ...???

I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think

N_urk said:
I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think
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Ok, but is it going to be soon(for ELF)???

N_urk said:
Month. I think
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Nobody is really sure, read the post of N_urk, maybe read it twice. There is some info in there.

At Least I'm Running Custom Rom with WM 6.1 Pro already =D

custom cooked roms
Hi all,
I just bought a touch 1 gen ... i heard from a friend that it'll take awhile because HTC has a tendency to release it after they have marketed all their new 6.1 loaded devices ... i guess its their marketing strategy
meanwhile, can anyone tell me any interesting 6.1 Roms i can look at ... thanks.
lud

Wait wait wait......so we who own HTC Touch (GSM) have to wait for HTC to ship out the update? We just can't.....update?
Paul

wm 6.1 update
wow .. so basically the update wont be coming for a while ... does anybody know if the 6.1 roms are even worth putting on the device??

Doesn't seem like there's much in the 6.1 upgrade for WM-Pro users though, most changes are in the smartphone version.

I have it too
I use the customer WM6.1 Pro for HTC Touch, and I like it.. there ar a lot of flavors: lite and full, with more (or less) free ram for othr apps, etc.
http://www.comunidadwindowsmobile.es/index.php?action=forum

Whats the difference(s) between WM6 Pro and WM 6.1 anyway? I've done some reading on it but no where does it really say whats so different. I've even gone and looked at videos of it on youtube. Other then what looks like a new skin theme doesnt look like anything else really and I am sure theres more to it. Do you have finger gestures now built right into HTC home? Like swiping left to get to your schedual and what not? What about the HTC home... is that any different?
Here's what I've gotten so far:
Threaded SMS messages
New Internet Explorer
Runs a little smoother
But... whats the big WOW with the upgrade?
Thanks!

ok wm6.1 was in beta for awhile i think it still is but it has since been perfected and is released... but the only way to get it right now is using the customn roms which is way better then using any other rom found any where else trust me ive tried them all and cutoms the way to go!!
and the big wow is the fixed all the bugs in it the stopped the memory leak increased speed. made tit very stable, reduced the size of the os system it self also the did many different registery hacks and edits to make it much better, they added a prgram that is called getting started which helps with alot of stuf and it isnt just a step by step its a good program,
theres no new gestures like that but theres many programs that do that that can be added on such as spb shell 2.0 umm pointui and ultimate lauinch.... trust me its worth upgrading and ive had every system out there wm5.0 symbian wm6.0 and now 6.1 and now im working on making a wm7 like program but using 6.1 as a base

HTC WM 6.1
I have contacted hTC, the WM 6.1 update is not available yet, they are still working out the errors etc. but in a while, they would release the update.
check back http://www.asia.htc.com/asia/hk/index.html

I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
Also cant just some forum member coock fimmware with all features of HTC for our HTC Touch Elf?

sala91 said:
I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
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At the top, Thread Tools > Subscribe to this Thread.
I`m sorry for the offtopic.

Any Chance for Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Polaris?

Just as the title says. As Microsoft has just release Windows Mobile 6.5 is there any hope that we will get the improved UI to the Polaris?
May HTC even step up to the task themselves? They released 6.0 for a lot of 5.0 phones...
Or are there still cooks active on doing Polaris roms?

probably...yes...
check my Signature

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
check my Signature
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Great!!!!
The extremely instable it`s going stable??
Nice , nice to ear it!!!!

JVRSilva said:
Great!!!!
The extremely instable it`s going stable??
Nice , nice to ear it!!!!
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getting there...waiting for a full wm6.5 rom to come out and play

How does it feel in day by day use of the win6.5 interface ? Do we say goodbye to M2D ? Your creation is looking great!

pcarvalho said:
getting there...waiting for a full wm6.5 rom to come out and play
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Great news then!!!!!
Thanx for replying

Wow, the wm 6.5 looks very great for the moment!
I'm intrested in your advance!

fantastic!! i hope it will come soon!!!

feels normal...bit faster in some areas (scrolling)...slower in others(startmenu-the honeycomb-due to drivers as far as i've tested)...but overall its good...if you consider its a leak from chinese beta and seems to be incomplete...
i'm waiting for a better leak wm6.5, for now just finding how new things work and making them better (its gonna be goodbye honeycomb menu for me, at least this one, way slow for me )...

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
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awesome, really really awesome bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mais um à espera
Another one waiting

Nils8 said:
Just as the title says. As Microsoft has just release Windows Mobile 6.5 is there any hope that we will get the improved UI to the Polaris?
May HTC even step up to the task themselves? They released 6.0 for a lot of 5.0 phones...
Or are there still cooks active on doing Polaris roms?
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Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
Acer
Asus
Birdstep Technology
Dell
Ericsson
HP
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
Huawei Communications Technologies
Option
Qualcomm
Sierra Wireless
Smith Micro
T-Mobile International
ZTE

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
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Good news ;-)

Arni06 said:
Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
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I really do not know what the strategy is with launching 2 WM versions in such a short span of time. May be MS was just paranoid of losing market share to iPhone and Google - so it launched a band-aid solution until WM7 is launched?

Any attempt at 6.5 now is mainly for some chef to try and be all cool and be the first one to come out with 6.5 rom. I've tried it, and see no point in releasing something like this as it's buggy (beta) and in all truthfulness, 6.1 w/tf2d is better than 6.5 homescreen. The whole honeycomb screen is quite a waste of screenspace as well. It's all quite the gimick to me, and people would probably end up going back to another rom after a week of using a 6.5 beta rom anyways. The only good thing about 6.5 is the revamped IE.

chavonbravo said:
Any attempt at 6.5 now is mainly for some chef to try and be all cool and be the first one to come out with 6.5 rom. I've tried it, and see no point in releasing something like this as it's buggy (beta) and in all truthfulness, 6.1 w/tf2d is better than 6.5 homescreen. The whole honeycomb screen is quite a waste of screenspace as well. It's all quite the gimick to me, and people would probably end up going back to another rom after a week of using a 6.5 beta rom anyways. The only good thing about 6.5 is the revamped IE.
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being the first isn't all that bad i think...would you have some of the things you have now if someone didn't take the 1st step? think not!
yes, you are right, releasing such a rom is still very early, some have, and thanks to them people Now can taste a bit of the Future (some forget its very beta, so lots of bugs)...
i have to desagree, sorry , when you say...only good thing about 6.5 is IE...i would say more...who needs IE? haven't used it since i've had my device...opera or any other good browser (opera mini) is the way to go...
pc experience tells us so
now here are some of my findings...
the new homescreen has lots of potencial...its light and fast...got all the info one needs and only 45% of 101MB of RAM is used...plus it will be customizable (till its limit)...
there is more speed in the wm6.5 rom...or lets say less lagging in some areas...scrolls faster, i see that when i scroll my 4gb memory card using standard explorer...had to disable touchflo cause it was slowing the device down...
skinning of controls will bring a very nice add to customization...i personaly like that...plus they are more thumb friendly...
honeycomb wastes space "as is" but i have already rearranged it in multiple ways (X:Y; 4:Y; 1:Y just to name a few), i dont like it much but its okay...
only major problem here is its current speed that i hope will be better in final release...
its seems a good step ahead...one good thing...i haven't had that "oh, this is so slow" phrase yet as the (programs folder) is not there anymore...so no more laggy icon update...that is always nice...i have a nice fix for that (youtube) but now i will not put it out since 6.5 is comming so its delayed till further notice
there is also a very nice lockscreen too...
lets just see where this goes...
keep up the good work...

Arni06 said:
Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
Acer
Asus
Birdstep Technology
Dell
Ericsson
HP
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
Huawei Communications Technologies
Option
Qualcomm
Sierra Wireless
Smith Micro
T-Mobile International
ZTE
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Hmmmm - no HTC I see.......
Punishment for bringing out an Android phone?

Sorry, didn't see your posts above that you were releasing a 6.5 rom. Hopefully with tweaks by someone knowledgable, the beta will be closer to decent. And you make good points that maybe more than just IE is good, but I'd still rather wait to base a rom on official 6.5

chavonbravo said:
Sorry, didn't see your posts above that you were releasing a 6.5 rom. Hopefully with tweaks by someone knowledgable, the beta will be closer to decent. And you make good points that maybe more than just IE is good, but I'd still rather wait to base a rom on official 6.5
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me to await an oficial rom to pop out, or at least a newer one, meanwhile i'll be playing with what i got and making it better
cheers

humble begger....
will you be letting the hd rom go in the days to come pcarvalho ?

TouchFlo (Manila) will die ... "HTC Sense" is on the way!

Hi everybody,
i just found this http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=103534&lang=1033
If you scroll down a little bit you'll find:
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance peoples lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected.
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A nice Video can be watched here (ok ... it's Hero => Android, but should look similiar on WinMo-Devices ... except Multi-Finger-Gestures)
Watch how it works with Flash here
IMHO this looks very promising
@Developers:
What do you think ... will this be running on our belowed Blackstones?
@Mods:
If this is the wrong Forum, please move this Thread.
Thanks in advice.
kind regards
fwt
PS: I'm off for a short Holiday ... better said long Weekend. Having some recreation!

fwt said:
Hi everybody,
i just found this http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=103534&lang=1033
If you scroll down a little bit you'll find:
A nice Video can be watched here (ok ... it's Hero => Android, but should look similiar on WinMo-Devices ... except Multi-Finger-Gestures)
Watch how it works with Flash here
IMHO this looks very promising
@Developers:
What do you think ... will this be running on our belowed Blackstones?
@Mods:
If this is the wrong Forum, please move this Thread.
Thanks in advice.
kind regards
fwt
PS: I'm off for a short Holiday ... better said long Weekend. Having some recreation!
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Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device

I bet that 90% of the cooked HD-roms will contain that interface within the next 6 months
And it looks very promising
greetz

It is new UI for Android OS, HTC loves to make UI for different OS
Windows Mobile ==> Touch FLO 3D
Android ==> HTC Sense
I love it's analog clock
I want it

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device
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Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh

touch flo is old now, we want to see something new on wm.

NRGZ28 said:
Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh
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That sounds petty cool !
Did your preview ROM (released as a preview around the 16th june) is built using Manila or is it a WM version of HTC sense ?
I used it a few hours and was very nice

Yep
That would be also cool if htc would make a plugin system for manila (on futur htc sense) like on WM6.5 main interface to make it easy to develop new tabs (I want a twitter tab )

NRGZ28 said:
Not THAT long.. they (HTC) are already pretty close. Shhhhhhh
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looks like you have seen something???

it won't take long until my blackstone is found on ebay... i think i was just waiting for the "reason"... and here it is! amazing, amazing software. i feel pity of the current windows mobile when i look at iphone and android's OS... ah! not to mention the marvelous Palm Pre.

i thought it is for android? HTC Hero is an android rite?

citrix80 said:
touch flo is old now, we want to see something new on wm.
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i second that and i thought i read somewhere that it is coming to WM as well so keep fingers crossed

It's pretty much just a reshuffled Touch Flo with more fancy effects, I won't say no when it's availiable but nor am I going to desperate to get my hands on it.

Samsung Jet will play flash pages
Nokia N97 will play flash pages
Windows cannot dissappointed to find out after getting the first PPC

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks promising but I think it would be a while before you would see this on a WM device
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You wil see it soon on a Windows Mobile Phone with android running on it

hey, just ordered a blackstone a few days ago... and saw HTC sense today. I just want it! what do you think, will HTC sense be available for the blackstone too?
just read the posts above, maybe it will be available, maybe there will be a new WM touchflo version... in your opinion, should I leave my order, buy a blackstone and hope for HTC sense made available for it, or should I wait for more HTC sense devices like the hero?
a really really hard decision!
thx!

This is another reason why we need Android on the HD. HTC Sense is so much more fluid and finger friendly.

absolutely. this is a MUST HAVE. can't imagine better then HD with sense...

LOL - Talk about wishful thinking.
HTC no longer support the Touch HD, theres no way you're going to see such an update for it.

would be interesting where you've read/heard/got that info? I just read an article, John Wang: "HTC Sense will be available for Android AND Windows Mobile devices in the near future." (tecchannel.de, in german)

Official HTC update to WM 6.5.3?

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.

I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!
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May I aks you why are you so sure? Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?

vponomarev said:
May I aks you why are you so sure?
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because MS want everyone to buy shiny new wp7 phones.
Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?
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If T Mo US want to fork out a fat fist full of cash to MS, they might, but i'd give REALLY big odds that they wont. Why would they? they have sold out in the first week, thats their investment back, now all they have to do is sit back, wait for wp7 and start the whole circus again.
No one is going to offer upgrades, I suspect. The only way forward as i see it for 6.5.x is as a side line to the wp7. Maybe the 'business' range, alongside wp7 as the consumer range.

jagger2k said:
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.
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I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.

Oh that sucks, ah well, that what you brilliant people are here for lol

EgoMaximus said:
I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.
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That does it for me, now i'm realy going to flash my device!
I have waited for a new HTC ROM update and wanted at least 6.5.3 on my device or even better 6.5.5... SO!
AND flashing gives me a faster better device, so! Thanks! And THANKS HTC!

I sent message to HTC. I asked when we get a new WM 6.5.3 on our HTC HD 2. They wrote me that they nothing know about new ROM updates for HD2.... So we must waiting, but if we don't get new WM from HTC in near future I flash my HD2

What is the point of these builds then? the only phone i know which will have it is that nasty sony ericsson trying to be a blackberry.

Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...

liamR said:
Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...
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I think they are aming for us to buy the new WinMo 7 phones...

I'll be surprised if there isn't another ROM release. The stock carrier ROMs are quite a way behind those on unlocked phones for a start and I imagine there's a risk of losing customers to the competition if support isn't seen to be provided. My guess is that the various 'flavours'' of HD2 will be updated so that they have the same OS and applications.
Windows Phone 7 doesn't look appealing to me and if I want a locked down phone, I'll get an iPhone.

What does the updates do?

what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.

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what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.
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This topic has nothing to do with WM7, This is about 6.5.3 which is an updated version of 6.5. Let not turn this into a 7.0 discussion.

Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?

mjordan79 said:
Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?
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They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?

DrATty said:
They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?
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Isn't that the point... WP7 will eventually lead to WP8, it's a moving target. If you want 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 you can install a cooked ROM that has it. The great thing is that... MS is continuing to develop the 6.5.X series and... the cooks are getting it to us.

My point isn't the inevitability of Windows Phone8, it's a question of how long 7 will be supported. Manufacturers seem to have forgotten that users have contracts with their phones and will need to keep them for 2 years or more before upgrading. The HD2 had very little support, leaving owners of this flagship device with an out-of-date machine after a few months. Other phone suppliers continue to provide upgrades to their ranges. I won't forget this when I need a new phone, especially since my phone still has bugs. HTC will lose customers. Whether they care about this or not is another matter but I'd aim to keep my customers in the current climate, even if I only sell each of them one phone every 2 years.
I'm waiting for a reply to my bug report.

We should all make some pressure on HTC.Send them e-mails, post on blogs, contact newspapers, etc etc...
HTC should change this their bad support. We buy a 600$ device and get a 6 month support, no upgrades (only bugfixes, and not for all bugs).
This is not what people expect from a company such as HTC.

Windows Mobile on the Hero?

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.

Not possible, there are other threads on it if you search.

meirionwyllt said:
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
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Hero may be a downgrade then, worse screen.

I had the diamond...
Hero with android is so much better
With 2.1 Rom.. it kills the HTC Diamond

i have had the Td2 and the hero and the hero wins easily!

meirionwyllt said:
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Old-Fashioned !

since there are (from the hardware specs point of view) great winmo phones, why would you want to go through the trouble of putting winmo on a hero? the hero is a great phone, but if you want winmo (god knows why...) just get a winmo phone, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
this is not bashing, this is asking why.

1. don't get the Hero if you're happy with windows mobile. no point.
2. get the Hero and forget about that crap.
ex owner of Diamond here
Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

winmo is immposible to install on hero becasue of hardware and kernel ..

Why would you want to spoil your Hero by installing an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning? I used to have the TD - the Hero is just so much better for both hardware and software.
As others have said if you want to stick with WM there are plenty of HTC WM phones out there - get one of those instead of the Hero

buy a fake chinese hero which is identical to hero (I think - only saw it on a video) and has winmo 6.5 pro

Thanks for your answers.
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it because of my old-fashioned nature and wanting to stick with MS. But then I thought of asking about the ROM just in case.
"an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning?" - I hope you are right, that MS are indeed abandoning it in favour of Windows Phone 7. I hope it's a complete re-write of the code, rather than what MS usually do and regenerate old code and put it into "new" OS's.
Thanks
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.

Windows mobile 7 is completely new, but will not work on any existing handsets.
back to android.
Android is great, fully customisable and there is no reason not to love it.

meirionwyllt said:
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it .
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Exactly what happened with me - it was going on Ebay and I was keeping the TD, until I made one mistake and did this
meirionwyllt said:
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
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One little play and I was hooked.
In use the capacitive screen is so much better - do not believe those who say it is a worse screen because it has less resolution. In fact ease of use of the screen is the one thing that I always envied iphone users for when I watched them swipe easily between screens without ever accidently switching on an app.
And Android, especially with HTC's SenseUI, is much better than WM. Because of the WM interface (which HTC did their best to hide) I used my TD mainly as a phone and did not get the best out of it because of that. Now I use my Hero for a lot more. And I have not missed my old stylus one bit - I just let my fingers do the walking.
Let us know how you get on with your little play - try the market and see how easy it is to get all sorts of weird and wonderful apps that you never realised you needed, but you will find indispensible once you've got them. I bet you will be androided.