So my wife and myself both have the Fascinate. Both are running JT's 1.2 Kernel, both running LauncherPro, similar apps, etc.
She's been IMing me this morning letting me know that her phone is running really really slow, like it takes more than a few seconds for her to type keys for a text message.
I've had her do a couple restarts and battery pulls, but that doesn't seem to be doing anything yet.
Until I get home to check it out and see what's going on, is there anything I should look into that would cause such crappy performance?
Thanks in advance.
Autokiller doesn't seem to play nicely sometimes, if you have that installed.
(The lowmemkiller tweaker, not task killer).
adrynalyne said:
Autokiller doesn't seem to play nicely sometimes, if you have that installed.
(The lowmemkiller tweaker, not task killer).
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I have it on mine, it might be on her's, i'll tell her to uninstall it if she does have it.
I have no issues with mine so far though, that i know of.
Did she reset the slider in setcpu to 1200 after reboot?
Just a silly question: not using the setcpu widget is she?
NOsquid said:
Did she reset the slider in setcpu to 1200 after reboot?
Just a silly question: not using the setcpu widget is she?
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she isn't, and it's set to boot. that was something I was going to look at when I got home, but unless she did something to change it from set on boot, it should be fine.
Maybe something running in the background...?
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Maybe something running in the background...?
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Yea, until I can actually get the phone's in my hands, I have no idea. There is a chance she might have downloaded or installed something that caused her phone to wig out, she probably would have told me if she did though.
I also won't know more until she starts texting me back too. lol
You're running the voodoo kernel right? If so, the general consensus here is that the build of Voodoo that's in the currently released kernels (like JT's 1.2), slows down with use. I saw this myself. It negated most of the performance benefit of voodoo with time.
A temporary solution, is to wipe cache. I normally did a wipe davlik and normal cache, thru CWM. That speeds it up again, until it slows down, or so it seems... Hard to get definite answers on most of this stuff that don't go over my head.
mackeydesigns said:
So my wife and myself both have the Fascinate. Both are running JT's 1.2 Kernel, both running LauncherPro, similar apps, etc.
She's been IMing me this morning letting me know that her phone is running really really slow, like it takes more than a few seconds for her to type keys for a text message.
I've had her do a couple restarts and battery pulls, but that doesn't seem to be doing anything yet.
Until I get home to check it out and see what's going on, is there anything I should look into that would cause such crappy performance?
Thanks in advance.
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There are a lot of factors that go into performance, and slow is something I refuse to tolerate. Lol. I don't know what your comfort level is with the various processes, but if I were unable to find the culprit, I would probably rebuild.
This would mean complete voodoo uninstall via adrenalynes thread instructions, and Odin to stock.
Reroot
Apply CWM
Either remove all unwanted bloatware, or just install one of the several roms. I'm running Jt's super clean without issue.
Theme and mod if desired
Once you're situated to your content, Voodoo. I recommend making that the last step.
I run SetCPU on custom, specific to the kernel you're using, and use Juice Defender beta, autorunkiller and auto killer with and aggressive main profile and an ultimate secondary.
I do also make it a habit to reboot once a day, just because Android in general seems to like that.
I don't tend to keep any touchwiz I don't use, including the launcher. It's bulky in and of itself. It can be replaced by dropping your launcher of choice in the /system /app directory, and then freezing, renaming, or removing it.
I know this isn't a correct response to your initial question, but there are so many factors that could be causing your issue, I thought I would share what works for me. Until I occasionally decide to experiment and bork my phone, this process always gives me a perfectly smooth, incredibly responsive device with no FC, lag, slow down, or other issues, and battery is at least 16 hours of high use.
My GF kept her touchwiz launcher, widgets, and wallpapers, but otherwise has the same set up, and she's been running liquid smooth for a month.
If your problem goes away after installing something, disregard this post. Lol. Every device is a little different.
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Her setcpu setting got reset and was set to something different causing it to act retarded.
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Her setcpu setting got reset and was set to something different causing it to act retarded.
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This happened to me a few times with my Incredible. It was enough of a pain that i ended up uninstalling it and my phone stopped having mysterious slow downs.
I'm hoping my Fascinate has better luck with over-clocking than the incredible did... SetCPU makes me miss Govnah and the uberkernel from my Pre+
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I searched but haven't found any results.
I recently was adjusting my setting in setcpu, and I set it too high momentarily. I set it to 787 and the phone started to freeze. I normally set it to 710 or 729 maximum. After it froze, I rebooted. Since that time, my phone has been lagging at times (scrolling between screens etc).
So I wanted to know if there is a way to test the cpu to see if it is operating normally. Any help, or a point in the right direction would be appreciated.
I just want to make sure I didn't damage anything, or if the lag I'm seeing is a result of something else.
Thanks in advance.
edit: I ran a stress test in setcpu, and it said no errors
Just clock it back down to where it was stable...
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Just clock it back down to where it was stable...
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I did that, I am flashing a new rom now. I did a complete wipe. I'm flashing CyanogenTazz v3. It was only lagging on home screens. I'm thinking it may be something with launcherpro, since everything else was running normal.
I even did a nand backup, and still had lag. We'll see what happens now with a fresh install.
Try uninstalling SetCPU when you get CyanogenTazz, it's not really necessary as the phone will overclock/underclock itself.
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Try uninstalling SetCPU when you get CyanogenTazz, it's not really necessary as the phone will overclock/underclock itself.
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It installed automatically, since I had it installed on version 2. I haven't opened or set it yet. I will uninstall and see what happens. So far I seem to be running smooth.
If I start getting lag again, I'm going to uninstall launcherpro, and try running adw for a bit. I hope there's not a problem with launcherpro, I love that app.
My previous phone was a Motorola Droid. As time went on it seemed like it started to get slower. Figured it was just my imagination.
Fast forward to the fascinate. Phone started out perfect. Installed voodoo and it was flying. Recently it started becoming very sluggish. I click on an app and it literally takes 3-5 seconds to even start opening the app. It just sits there like it's frozen after you press it. When I press the home or back button, sometimes I don't even get the vibration feedback. And I keep pressing it and then 5-10 seconds later I get crazy feedback like it just registered all my presses.
And everything just seems sluggish. My browser has always been smooth, now it's choppy. I don't know what's wrong...haven't installed any new apps, and if I did, I've already uninstalled them. I do battery pulls once in a while, but doesn't seem to help. I dunno...I love this phone, but damn.
just a thought, do you have a task killer installed? the built in one is good but I installed advanced task killer and anytime its start running slow i just hit it and it clears everything right up.
may or may not be a fix to your problem.
Actually, I just found out the problem.
When I showed my brother my phone the other day, he installed some stupid task killer without my permission. Some auto task killer app. He has one on his phone so I guess he thought I would want it. Just uninstalled that and it's working perfect now. Needless to say I'm pissed he did that.
I don't trust task killers. I DO use the built in one once in a while though to kill apps such as browser just to reset it. But when task killers kill a bunch of other apps (besides browser and games) it just slows down the phone as shown in my first post lol.
whats the name so we know to stay away from that one
Its called auto killer. And yes it causes major problems. I have done voodoo and OCLF and all of that but stock with LP it is faster than any of my previous phones.
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Also after awhile your dalvik cache gets bloated. Go into clockwork recovery, advanced, wipe dalvik cache, good to go. I haven't seen any ill effects from this.
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ok so... when i first got shifted, first app i installed was quadrant and smartbench. now... i ran quadrant right off the bat. easy 1607 1657 and 1704
Now Im hitting 1304 1345 and 1205 (this 1 almost made me cry)
also atk'd everything (still low scores) and rebooted then atk'd, same thing
Having else having this issue?
EDIT: Scatch that! it was my lwp and widgets, man do i feel dumb XD
ANOTHER EDIT: Scratch that again , its still happening lol
Uninstall everything then reboot and try again or do a factory reset. Like it's been said before, benchmarking and real life are two different things. Try not to get too obsessive with numbers. If the phone feels like it's slowing down then start removing programs you don't use often.
There is a built in task killer. Go to settings then applications then running services. Stop programs you know what they are and do. That seems to help a little.
Try installing or stopping the ATK and running it then.
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Uninstall everything then reboot and try again or do a factory reset. Like it's been said before, benchmarking and real life are two different things. Try not to get too obsessive with numbers. If the phone feels like it's slowing down then start removing programs you don't use often.
There is a built in task killer. Go to settings then applications then running services. Stop programs you know what they are and do. That seems to help a little.
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How do I stop certain things, even just small ones like the STOCKS application from restarting automatically?
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NuAngel said:
How do I stop certain things, even just small ones like the STOCKS application from restarting automatically?
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Either remove the app with titanium backup, or try using autorun killer. Either will require temp root.
Go into sync settings and disable it
I just spent some time trying to figure out what had broken my contacts functionality and this was it. Again, removing "blur_yahoo.apk" and the associated .odex file will break the contacts app. After removal, clicking on a contact in the dialer/contact app will just shut the app down. I've no idea why, since the yahoo app is for yahoo mail.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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Hm, I deleted all of the messaging/social stuff and my moto text app (conversations.apk) still works...
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Really? Hmm...might be something else then that you'd think wouldn't affect it but does.
guys which apps should i delete that won't mess with the software....that will get rid of the bloatware
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won't mess with the software
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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You should probably do some more research before you start messing with that b/c it can brick the OS requiring a full install of the ROM. In this case, if you don't do a restore before removing stuff you'll be restoring the SBF file a lot.
But to answer your question though...the app you want is Titanium Backup Pro (aka the pay version b/c of the "Freeze" option.)
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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Well since the GB build for the DX just came out, I haven't been able to find a definitive thread anywhere (including on MyDroidWorld) listing what is save to remove or at least freeze. As of right now I think it's safe to say that its going to be a trial and error situation.
There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
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I removed all the messaging crap except the default messaging app (conversations.apk). I use Google Voice so I don't use the default app, but I sent myself a message using it and it worked just fine.
Note: you can do a data wipe/factory reset from within clockwork and you'll be fine.
If someone can produce a list of everything in /system/app (well, just the .apks would do), I can mark the ones I've successfully removed without problems.
Ditto to that...I'd be happy to contribute what I've frozen.
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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You're right. I just timed it. About 38 seconds from red M to full appearance of desktop (I've got the boot animation disabled) and about 25 seconds from full desktop to all widgets loaded and ready to go. I underestimated by 40-60%! I'm using the blur launcher, btw.
Something must be wrong with mine then...because mine lasts a good 3 to 4 minutes...and that seems very long for services to be starting...
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Hey guys, so I'm wondering if there is some sort of fix or mod I can do to make my home screen not reload all the time. It's frustrating going into an app for a second and going back to home and having it load which usually takes the majority of the time I have the phone on. Doesn't really matter what app I open, it will even do it coming from settings.
Now I did research this a bit and I don't have any task killers or many widgets on the home screen, to be honest, the stock oem home screen setup has more widgets and whatnot than I do. Can't I increase the cache size or something? Memory space has never been a problem with this phone, in fact I hardly even get over 100mb of used RAM. BTW, every ROM I've flashed has been like this, I'm hoping the stock ROM isn't like this too, its just plain annoying.
Thanks
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Which rom do you want to use? You can possibly fix it with certain setting depending on which rom. Also are you just using the stock laucher that comes with each rom? Or do u install a preferred one?
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He's talking like he's using Sense. To be clear, are you talking about widgets refreshing like with contacts, bookmarks, locations, weather, and the like? The best way to avoid information and widgets being refreshed all the time is to use as much memory as possible all of the time. What's you're looking at is the result of garbage collection... The kernel is tossing out items from memory that haven't been used in a certain amount of time or are assumed to be "stale" information. That kind of garbage collection is set to expire fairy quickly because the first time your calendar widget waits 2 or 3 hours to update and you missed your appointment or date, you'd really wish it didn't wait so long to refresh that data. I'm not sure what can be done to avoid that being the case, but I know it's been a minor irritation to some for a long time. I'm sure if there was an easy fix we'd have seen it by now from HTC themselves. It's commonly sited in reviews as a weakness of the UI compared to iFone.
Hey there,
Was wondering if anyone has found a fix for this yet.
I am having the same problem. If I enter any app and then go back to the home screen, I get the white screen with the green "HTC" logo, then the background appears and reloads everything. It has gotten to the point that every time I open an app it needs to reload. I recently factory reset and changed the SD card to try and fix it, but no luck.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post, hope there is a fix.
its because the sense roms its happening on arent meant for our device
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its because the sense roms its happening on arent meant for our device
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I have stock sense and it happens to me every so often too. Maybe once a day so its barely noticable but I always wonder why it does it. Seems to be random and like other poster says I'm either backing out of settings or an app then the htc screen appears and the home page resets all the app icons. Only started doing this after the OTA so maybe something to do with memory management as previously stated in another post.
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I have stock sense and it happens to me every so often too. Maybe once a day so its barely noticable but I always wonder why it does it. Seems to be random and like other poster says I'm either backing out of settings or an app then the htc screen appears and the home page resets all the app icons. Only started doing this after the OTA so maybe something to do with memory management as previously stated in another post.
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Is it a resource heavy app? Game or something like that? Cause ive never had that on sense 1.0 or cm7 and i push my phone all the time.
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Is it a resource heavy app? Game or something like that? Cause ive never had that on sense 1.0 or cm7 and i push my phone all the time.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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It hasn't done it in a very long time now. At least a week so not sure what was causing it. I did delete some apps, Netflix being one of them, that I no longer used but I never had Netflix running when it did it.
Problem was a task manager/quick launch app that turned my home button into more like an Alt-Tab. I have since reflashed a new Rom and haven't installed a task manager, and no problems at all. Must have been closing launcher causing it to reboot.
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