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Text messages always show bottom of screen first?

I am having a little problem with my text messages. Whenever I get a new message or try to compose one; the screen goes to the bottom and doesn't show the message. I have to slide or scroll up everything when I try to send or read a new message. I am on VP3G's latest rom(check sig for more details), and I don't think this happened before, but I cannot fully remember when it started to happen. Is this a known problem, or better yet, is there something I can do to fix it? Its not that big of a deal, just more of an annoying bug...Are there any registry settings I can do or try another program to fix it?

Since no ones seems to have any answers, what about a Registry tweak? Does anyone know of a setting I could edit or add to make it open messages from the top?

Unsure about the registry tweak, but for a temporary solution, you could just keep your SMS inbox clean so that all messages display on one page, allowing you to see the new one at the top, even though you're at the bottom.
Have you tried staying at the top, then resetting your phone at that moment? Does this happen in Outlook?

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Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.

vetius said:
Unsure about the registry tweak, but for a temporary solution, you could just keep your SMS inbox clean so that all messages display on one page, allowing you to see the new one at the top, even though you're at the bottom.
Have you tried staying at the top, then resetting your phone at that moment? Does this happen in Outlook?
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The problem isn't the messages in the inbox, its that when I open the message, it goes to the bottom of the message right away, so I can see the actual message, or maybe just the very last line. The same goes for when I try and create a new text message, It goes right to the bottom, and I have to scroll up to see what I am typing.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.
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I have advanced Config from Schaps installed, but 4-way navigation was already disabled...I haven't tried KaiserTweak, will that work for my Hermes, or should I say will it work correctly? If so, then I will try that next...
Thanks for the replies...

You guys are so locked on
I had the problem with the messages going to the bottom. I did the Kaiser Tweak and there are no more problems.
This message board is so locked on to solving issues.
Thanks for all your help.

Hey guys, is there ever any other reason for this to happen? I've tried disabling it in the advanced config and kaisertweak but neither help :/

The only fix I have ever known for that problem, was to disable
the stylus 4 way navigation.
Chris Jernigan

Open to the Bottom of Messages - Fix Needed
benj0145 said:
Hey guys, is there ever any other reason for this to happen? I've tried disabling it in the advanced config and kaisertweak but neither help :/
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I have tried the same with no success... any other solutions?

PsyOpWarlord said:
Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.
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To be clear - you are saying that a fix for this issue (that I have and it's annoying as hell) is to COMPLETELY disable the ability to use the D-pad for navigation???
I'm not bagging on you, but that is completely and totally unacceptable.
Shall we just disable the touch screen to solve some similarly mundane issue??
It shouldn't have to be like that. And we shouldn't have to live with it either.
But that's life I guess.

Other solutions for getting messages to open at the top?
darknyt said:
To be clear - you are saying that a fix for this issue (that I have and it's annoying as hell) is to COMPLETELY disable the ability to use the D-pad for navigation???
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May in fact be a mute point as I changed this feature using both KaiserTweak and the Advance Config and it did not remedy the problem.

I also have the same problem. D-PAD is already disabled. I also don't know when this problem started.

This registry tweak (basically, that's what the aforementioned tweaking tools do) solves the problem for me:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)
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Have you guys tried taping the "Arrange By" option on the upper right of the Message window. Choose the "Recieved" option. If you noticed, if you tap it one or more times it will arrange the messages from newest to oldest..

Screen On when SMS recieved

On friday my trusty MPV M3100 decided to give up the ghost, so as I was in London I decided to look for a new phone and picked up an Touch Diamond 2.
And I have to say; I love it.
Best phone I've had and even the lack of a hardware keyboard hasn't bothered me.
There is only one thing which has caused me some bother; on all my previous phones when an sms/mms has been recieved the screen will turn on for a while to alert me of this, however I can't find a way to do the same thing with the TD2.
The reason I would like this is down to me mostly leaving my phone on silent but in line of sight. The silent factor is because I'm often doing things with headphones on (such as at work) and I'm not going to hear the tone anyways.
So, while the green light is nice and all being able to have the screen turn on as an option would be nice..
As a coder by trade I've been poking around to see what I could do to let me do this myself, however if someone has a better solution or knows of an app which can already do it then I'd appricate it if they could tell me

There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?

thanks for the reply, however I'd already found that option and it only effects the green light which flashes when you get a messag; nice and stuble in keeping with the device but not what I'm after

Look for this registry value
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableSMSWakeUpEvent
It should be 1, set it to 0

ah, excellent, thanks

just curious what program you guys are using to edit registry values...
sorry if this is a stupid question, but i'm new to Windows Mobile.. up until the D2 i've always have symbian phones.

I just did a google for "win mobile reg editor" and installed PHM Regedit to do the job.
Although I'm going to write a quick app to let me toggle this particular setting I think (i'll probably post the resulting cab/exe here encased others want it)

I'm using Total Commander (I just started editing the registry). What do you guys use for making a CAB file?

oruam57 said:
Look for this registry value
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableSMSWakeUpEvent
It should be 1, set it to 0
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Thank Oruam, great tweak.
I currently have the option selected to display a new sms message on screen as soon as it arrives, is it possible when i hit reply to get the device to go to the touch flow threaded messaging system rather than the WM6.1 default?

Thanks guys!
Is there any way to have it vibrate & play a sound, but not enable the touch screen? The reason I ask is that I dont want the screen to come on while it's in my pocket etc, and things start to get accidentally pressed!

Awesome! Thanks!

ormz said:
There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?
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I'm sorry ormz.
I'm interesting for that option to have flash light blinking when sms/mail arrives, unfortunately I haven't got the option you mentioned into my settings referred to "new SMS".
I've got the original rom installed (italian version).
May I arrange same setting/option into register also if I haven't it on display?
Could someone help me?

lock the device:
"real lock" - press the hang button (the one on the right) until it shows unlock at the bottom left side
stand-by - press the power button only for 1 second and the screen will go off. When receiving a message, the screen stays black. To see menu-s again, press again power button for 1 second

someone could tell me how to make it works with email event?

You guys might check S2U2 found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527523

ormz said:
There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?
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That option is grayed out. Anyone else?

Rarebreed said:
That option is grayed out. Anyone else?
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Same here...

i have total commander and i cant find that path... i get //plugins, application, data, connmgr, doc and sett, my doc, program files, temp, trusted, windows.. looked in all the folders and even typed that address.. nothing..

martyzidek said:
i have total commander and i cant find that path... i get //plugins, application, data, connmgr, doc and sett, my doc, program files, temp, trusted, windows.. looked in all the folders and even typed that address.. nothing..
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What are you looking for? Are you tryting to navigate to the registry through file explorer? If so, you need a reg editor to do that...
You know this is an old thread, right?

yeah i know its a old thread... i had a registor editor.. actually acouple. i found what i was looking for.. just didnt start with hkml.. thanks though for replying..

How to remove delay after call is over?

After i finish call i see about 3 sec delay, and i can't repeat call or any action.
How to remove it delay ??
(please if possible registry tweak)

You can change that setting in Advanced Configuration Tool. In the "Phone" settings, end call delay default is at 3000, hence the 3-second delay. You can lower than number in the settings. Works great.

doesn't work, but i enter 0 sec

Ethermind said:
doesn't work, but i enter 0 sec
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Did you try 1 second? That's what I have it set to, and seems to be working well.

hmm... doesn't affect...

Ethermind said:
hmm... doesn't affect...
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One thing to keep in mind is that when changing the setting, you can't just type in the number. If you do that the setting won't stick. Instead, you have to use the up/down arrows to set the value.

Did you reset the device? It works for me.

Works for me too ...set it to zero (by typing in 0) and soft reset ...no more delay ending calls (answers quicker too)
Am using R3AA

works really great! is there also maybe an option where you can get rid of that beep beep beep after a ended call?

Does anyone know the registry key for it?
Mine doesn't have the option in the advanced tab. Just 'Reject call with text messge' & 'Add new phone number to contacts at end of call'

its not in the advanced tab. you have to use Advanced configuration tool...

Use the original winmo dialer not the beautiful one

Im using the dialer from PocketShield which has a pretty nice look in my opinion.

darfri said:
Use the original winmo dialer not the beautiful one
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LOL you made it sound very unappealing.

Haxxler said:
Im using the dialer from PocketShield which has a pretty nice look in my opinion.
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The latest pocketshield even suggests to disable the beautiful dialer. Have you done that?

Hi,
I just installed Shaps Advanced Config Tool, but the mentioned option under Phone is not there. Is there another Advanced Config Tool I don't know about?
Thanks
Marc

Figured it out myself =) Used an old version (2.2) instead of the new 3.3.
nevermind =)

wheezzl said:
Hi,
I just installed Shaps Advanced Config Tool, but the mentioned option under Phone is not there. Is there another Advanced Config Tool I don't know about?
Thanks
Marc
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I downloaded it too and the option was there. 4th option under phone. "End Call Delay"

wheezzl said:
Figured it out myself =) Used an old version (2.2) instead of the new 3.3.
nevermind =)
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Very good!

Steve_TLS said:
I downloaded it too and the option was there. 4th option under phone. "End Call Delay"
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4th one down under phone, i have call id match: 8 ??

HTC HD2 how to disable SMS wake up problem?

Does anybody know how to disable HD2 from waking up upon receiving an sms? I would really love to do this because I carry my HD2 in my pocket. Often I didn't hear that there was an incoming sms and the screen refused to turn off after that due to the sensitive capacitive display which kept on rubbing with my pants.
Thank you in advance

How did you do it on your previous device?
Settings - Personal - Sounds & Notifications - Notifications - New Text Message - uncheck Display on screen.

lorin.bute said:
How did you do it on your previous device?
Settings - Personal - Sounds & Notifications - Notifications - New Text Message - uncheck Display on screen.
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With my previous device like HTC Touch HD, it didn't auto wake up upon receiving sms.
Secondly, the screen was not capacitive therefore not as sensitive as HD2 and never experienced a problem.
I also have tried your procedure "
Settings - Personal - Sounds & Notifications - Notifications - New Text Message - uncheck Display on screen."
and the problem still persisted.
My HD2 still kept on turning on itself upon receiving an sms.

Im with you on this one, mine always wake up too. Even when using BSB Tweaks

I have the same problem. I can't turn it off.
Danish Rom 1.48

I have this problem as well. Does anyone have a solution?

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There must surely be a solution to this...?

I have the same problem with my TD2,I already set the following item in registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"DisableSMSWakeUpEvent"=dword:00000001
but it don't work.

Install BsB Tweaks (search the forum for it) and there is an option to turn off the wakeup.

ftr2k8 said:
Install BsB Tweaks (search the forum for it) and there is an option to turn off the wakeup.
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That tweak doesn't work on my Leo.

ftr2k8 said:
Install BsB Tweaks (search the forum for it) and there is an option to turn off the wakeup.
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Yeah, I already tried that. Didn't help.

Odd... did you reset your device afterwards? Are you sure "SMS Wake Up" is set to off? My mate left it on "on" thinking it was a double negative sort of thing...

ftr2k8 said:
Odd... did you reset your device afterwards? Are you sure "SMS Wake Up" is set to off?
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Yes, and yes. I even directly checked the registry to make sure it's inserting the right value, and it is; the phone is simply ignoring the registry value.

Shasarak said:
Yes, and yes. I even directly checked the registry to make sure it's inserting the right value, and it is; the phone is simply ignoring the registry value.
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Got exactly the same problem here too (Stock 1.48.405.2)

I think HTC's latest revision of the SMS hotfix, posted yesterday, may have fixed this problem. Needs a bit more testing to be sure....

I've been running Tom Codon's 1.1 ROM for a couple of days with the BsB tweak applied and my screen stays off (still get notification sound).
I only applied the SMS hotfix today, so it wasn't that. Tom's ROM is 2.02 based, this might have something to do with it working ok.

Shasarak said:
I think HTC's latest revision of the SMS hotfix, posted yesterday, may have fixed this problem. Needs a bit more testing to be sure....
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Yes, after installing the SMS Hotfix, I notice that my phone did not wake up upon receiving a sms anymore which is not happening before the SMS Hotfix.

The hotfix says it is for ROM versions 1.66 and earlier, so later ROM versions presumably already contain it.

My device also doesn't wake on SMS after the Hotfix

i was looking the reverse solucion, because, mine was like yours, but after i installed the hotfix sms "2" ,of 14-01-10 my hd2 dosent wake up no more after reciving a new sms, and i am thinking after i read this to leave it like this..... hope to help with something

Viewing messages from Notifications bar...

On my old Touch Pro when you recieved a message whatever program you were using at the time if you clicked at the black bar at the top for notifications then on the view message icon it would display in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen overlayed ontop of the program you were using so you could quickly view the message and then minimize it an contiue what you were doing or click reply and it would enter you into text messaging. Is there anyway to enable this feature for HD2. Because I miss it!
Cheers

fillip said:
On my old Touch Pro when you recieved a message whatever program you were using at the time if you clicked at the black bar at the top for notifications then on the view message icon it would display in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen overlayed ontop of the program you were using so you could quickly view the message and then minimize it an contiue what you were doing or click reply and it would enter you into text messaging. Is there anyway to enable this feature for HD2. Because I miss it!
Cheers
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have you recently flashed a rom? if so what back up program did you use to backup/restore PIM data? When i flashed my first rom i was using SPB Backup and when restoring PIM data, it would loose the bubble you talk about, I have since used PIM Backup and not had an issue.

Its always been like it, with first ROM, i upgraded to 1.66 and now im on 1.72, by the way big mistake! My phone is now slow as hell and doesnt send texts or recieve whether updates!
I assumed that it was the new stly of notifications menu and hoped there was a way to enable the other style?

fillip said:
Its always been like it, with first ROM, i upgraded to 1.66 and now im on 1.72, by the way big mistake! My phone is now slow as hell and doesnt send texts or recieve whether updates!
I assumed that it was the new stly of notifications menu and hoped there was a way to enable the other style?
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Vodafone UK 1.72?

Also the delivery report always shows up in the bubble but messages it takes you bac to manila and then to the messages tab. Anybody else have messages opening in the bubble like djchubbs. And @ Popeyes_Rat yes Vodafone UK

fillip said:
Also the delivery report always shows up in the bubble but messages it takes you bac to manila and then to the messages tab. Anybody else have messages opening in the bubble like djchubbs. And @ Popeyes_Rat yes Vodafone UK
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About to flash myself. I'll come back here if I get any problems.

Ok let me know ive found its not so bad now 1.72 I am currently on a personal record(this is not a joke this is the longest ive ever been able to run the phone without reseting) of 17hours 23minutes without needing to soft reset however i have had to do funny things to make that possible see here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666458
Can anybody tell me if in any ROM version when u get a text in and click in the notifications menu it opens the message in a bubble at the bottom rather than taking u too messages tab??
Thanks

Anyone know how to display message in the pop up bubble from the notifications bar rather than sending you straight to the messages tab (useful for reading the message while in another program)???
Many thanks

Still after a way to get this working really want to be able to quickly read a message while in another prograam like i used to on my toch pro. Help would be appreciated thanks

fillip said:
Still after a way to get this working really want to be able to quickly read a message while in another prograam like i used to on my toch pro. Help would be appreciated thanks
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Very easy: Start, Settings, Menu, More, Sounds and Notifications, Choose New Message from DropdownMenu, Check "Show Message", Done
Greets

If i am in the right place it is greyed out and doesnt let me check the box although for me to get there it is:
start/settings/menu/all settings/sounds & notifications/ then click notifications tab then select New Message from DropdownMenu but the "Display message on screen" is greyed out?
Thanks for the reply

Hmm strange maybe it is ROM-dependant...? Or there are other settings need to be made in order to use this option...? Which ROM are u using? Have you got BSBTweaks installed?

No i dont have bsb tweaks installed i dont like the way you cant reset to defaults, i do have hd2 tweaks installed though.Will bsb tweaks make it work? im running latest voda Rom 1.72.

fillip said:
No i dont have bsb tweaks installed i dont like the way you cant reset to defaults, i do have hd2 tweaks installed though.Will bsb tweaks make it work? im running latest voda Rom 1.72.
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Actually i dont think that this has to do with BSB. I relly dont have an idea as the checkbox "Show Message" is a standard function of every windows mobile version Anybody else got an idea why the box is greyed out...?

I went searching through the registry and found keys which were in the NOTIFICATIONMGR bit which had a path linking to Messaging_Client which i guess is what directs it to the manilla messaging bit when you get a message. I tried deleting the path and deleting the values in the CMD bit but it still does the same. I restored the key after just incase it affected something else but presumably there is a key somewhere which controls whether or not you can click that check box but i have no idea where i would find it? Anyone know.