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Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
themonkster said:
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
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if you are familiar with the other HTC phones such as the Desire and Nexus One, then this is pretty much the same on the HD. Quality is "bearable", but it is simply not loud enough. Max setting on the Desire HD is approx60-70& of Milestone Speaker loudness.
Yep, its the worst I have had...but the quality of the phone makes up for it.
Well its not good but to say its really bad.. when you use dolby mobile its okay.. and when you use dolby mobile on headset its AWESOME!! best i've ever heard on any phone / mp3 player
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
Maybe someone will make an audio hack so it goes louder!
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zen123 said:
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
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for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
NoEnd said:
for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
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Ring volume is not that great I'm afraid.
I'm the reviewer...
I just find it so annoying, look at the San Fran, £99 and it's speaker is FAR better. Come on HTC!!!
The speaker is rubbish, it's just not loud enough. You can't even hear the GPS talking in a car lol.
If you want to see how sad it is, ive just updated the video thread with it in the bugs/problems sections a guy had some laugh with it.
to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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im skeptical of how awesome it is, ive been spoiled with sound quality with my cowon S9 and Q-jays IEM's, im hoping that the DHD will sound on par with the cowon however i doubt it will be
awesome compared to iphone/ipod ....now that i can see
Speaker is woeful
I can also confirm that the external speaker is really disappointing. I criticised the original Desire for poor speaker volume and the promise of Dolby Mobile and SRS was one of the deal breakers in choosing to upgrade to the HD.
The ringtone selection is limited because you need to look for ones that are naturally loud. Forget watching some videos on the awesome screen when you can't hear the audio. I guess SatNav is going to be difficult too.
I use MixZing to improve speaker output for music when earphones are not nearby. But unless a hack appears to increase native volume, it's going to be a problem for a lot of people.
As a plus point, sound through ear/headphones is very impressive. Still needs a volume boost but perfectly acceptable for music playback.
Reminds me of the streak when i got it on 1.6 the speaker was quiet and made odd noises when put up full then came 2.1 its louder and clearer....Quite possibly a retarded software safety limit implemented.
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this is a deal breaker for me!
i thought with the SRS and all other crap they advertised that the speakers would be a bit decent! i have the n1 and the loud speaker and earpiece just total crap even with the hack to make them louder...
been missing a lot of calls cuz can't hear the phone (don't like vibration) ringing and when listening to the other side i try to find a quite place to listen to them as if i raise the volume the sound become very high pitched ..
damn you HTC i though the loud speaker would be at least like the ones in the EVO which is quite good!
a 50 bucks Chinese phone has far way better speaker than this crappy 700+ phone
hmm maybe most HTC's employees are bats! use high pitched frequencies to communicate
Can anyone compare the loudspeaker with HD2 ? HD2 seems even too loud for me.
just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
Yeah the speaker sucks, my old phone was the N95 and the speakers on that are a lot better than the DHD I have now.
who knows;9118124 just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
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I agree that the speaker on DHD is be low and "terrible" to people but I don't think it is fair to compare it to the nokia n95 which I think probably have one of the best speakerS (since it has 2 huge external speakers). Nokia is known for being a great music phone too.
aah, the N95, amazing sound. Used to have it for a long time, then got my first HTC (touch HD) and was extremely disappointed with the sound quality, and now that I got the desire hd, my ears got used to the crappy low-tech sound quality! well you cant have them all in one phone
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I just wonder if there is HW problem with speaker or its simply limited by software ? because I really couldnt belive that it would be that big problem to add louder speaker..
To start with, I made that comparison video. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I am utterly disappointed by the speaker quality of the Desire HD.
I fear that this is hardware related, as the speakers sound very high-pitched, without any low tones at all. Also, when at maximum volume playing high toned music, the sound starts to distort and crackle. As you can hear, you can hear the low tones pretty loud and clear on the N95, but on the Desire HD, you can't hear it at all. The volume is noticeably about 2.5x louder on the N95.
If you compare the Desire HD with the Galaxy S, you will quickly notice that the Galaxy S has even better speakers than the N95, with plenty of low tones, at a high volume. The volume of the Galaxy S is many times higher and clearer than the Desire HD.
All of this leads me to conclude that for a flagship phone as the Desire HD is, it really has crappy speakers, and I truly don't understand how they could make a ****up like this. How much would good speakers cost anyway? Cents?
I expect a flagship multimedia phone like the Desire HD is to have proper speakers, comparable or better than we had in the N95 time (the flagship multimedia phone 3+ years ago). Samsung seems not to have any trouble to achieve this, but for some reason HTC didn't -utterly unexpected-.
Now let me be clear: even with the bad speakers, the Desire HD is a much better choice than the Galaxy S for several reasons, but really, HOW THE HELL have they achieved to fail so miserably on this point?? I'll make another video soon to compare speakers of the Desire HD against the Galaxy S. Also check out the other video's in my channel, rate and comment!
I think in general HTC's phones have sucky speakers, even that new HTC 7 phone with that big speaker isn't that impressive.
tried poweramp and turned they volumes up on that and it just crackled looks like its gunna be a replacement speaker hopefully the samsung galaxy s is similar in design, if so ill try and make it fit lol
What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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The most Annoying thing is that I can't even hear it in my pocket as a matter of fact the speaker is so bad I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
who knows said:
I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
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Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...its screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
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Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...it's screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
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i was watching tv, and the phone was around 5/6 meters away and i didnt have vibration on.. to be honest i couldnt believe it myself i even rang the phone to see if any music was playing lol
so how is in-call volume? is it just external sound or in-call volume sucks too?
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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So that would mean that all of us have faulty speakers.
Someone else also said his speakers were great, so I guess a few people got decent ones.
Can we use SE Live View with this ? Does it have better speakers than this ? A option for not missing the calls ??
P.S- I m yet to buy DHD
007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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Are you sure you are talking about de DHD? And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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I don't know how he configured his DHD properly, but i think on DHD there're much more options to optimize sound quality than changing volume. I think abound de-/activate SRS and/or dolby mobile and there should be also an equalizer be integrated.
Think about that you shouln'd compare the quality of sound with any other devices than other smartphones or mobiles.
I've registered just to post a comment on the speaker quality. It's terrible. I'm not talking about headphones or the internal speaker. Specifically the loudspeaker. It's tinny, clips at higher volumes, and is worse than phones I had more than 5 years ago. I'm seriously considering sending the phone back on this basis.
Yep they are crap. I can't believe they've put something like this in one of the most expensive devices on the market.
Yesterday I was watching an episode of Family Guy and the quality of the sound was terrible. I thought it could be because of the codecs I used to convert the vid. I tried few mp3s (256bit) still crap. The louder I've put the volume the lower the quality went. Very very disappointing.
Still though... I love the phone and wouldn't change it for anything else. I wasn't expecting to get All-in-one device.
Are you satisfied with the external speakers on the Desire HD?
Everyone please answer the poll so we can get an accurate idea of what Desire HD users think about the external speakers.
I've read so many post on how bad their speaker is, but I must say, either I have bad ears, or I'm lucky, and got one with a great speaker. No problem making it loud enough, and I can even make it too loud. All without any crackling, or distortion. I love it!
bobbyphoenix said:
I've read so many post on how bad their speaker is, but I must say, either I have bad ears, or I'm lucky, and got one with a great speaker. No problem making it loud enough, and I can even make it too loud. All without any crackling, or distortion. I love it!
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I guess it may be a 1st batch issue then. If your speakers really are good it would mean that all our speakers are faulty. If this is the case it's a warranty issue, so we could get it fixed.
Could you make a video of the sound, preferably comparing it to another phone?
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Could you make a video of the sound, preferably comparing it to another phone?
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Yep. I post it as soon as I can.
I can hardly wait!
I have a DHD from the first batch and the external speaker sound is not loud enough (even on max.) and the sound quality is poor.
Not happy.
I'm getting similar sound quality from an over 2 year old TouchPro.
Contacted HTC support and all they advised was to remove battery reboot and check volume was set to maximum.
Told them that had been done - no reply since...........
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Already posted in the other thread, but considering I registered here just to complain about this speaker, I figured why not post again here
Speaker reminds me of an old Nokia that I sent back within the first week of receiving it. Except it's worse. Tinny and crackly. HTC can do far better. I'm still undecided as to whether I'll keep the phone as a result. I've ordered a bluetooth headset just to deal with this issue, but now I read that it's having problems with the BT headsets too!
can't you use DSPmanager and increase the volume of the loud speaker? We have full root after all.
SupremeBeaver said:
can't you use DSPmanager and increase the volume of the loud speaker? We have full root after all.
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I haven't tried that, but I have tried PowerAmp music player to boost music.
The result was as I expected: hardly any increase in volume, at the expense of crackly distorted bad sound quality - worse than it was at "normal" levels.
The strange thing is this:
Some apps sounds louder and some is hard to hear.
Have all volume sliders at max.
An MP3 used as alarm sounds higher then one played trough the mediaplayer.
Isnt this strange?
I have been missing calls at work so i bought a Samsung Bluetooth speaker BS300. It has just landed today. It is small and thin and also the sound quality is excellent and loud. I am waiting for the battery now to charge and i will leave a few comments later when i have made and received a few calls with it
I found the speaker was quite poor and sold the phone. Not just because of the speaker, was more that I just didn't feel it was a significant upgrade over the normal Desire.
Anyway, before I sold the DHD I compared the sound against my Desire, a Samsung i8910 and a Nokia N95. Even the old Nokia sounded better than both HTC phones and the Samsung just blew everything away.
I understand there's a lot of sound technology in the phone, but it only works if using headphones. Speaker is just a token affair as far as I'm concerned.
Just to make sure,
I hope there are no complaints related with the quality of the sound with a good set of headphones like Sennheisser or something like that, right?
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Yep. I post it as soon as I can.
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When are you going to upload it?
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When are you going to upload it?
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I don't have a good video camera, and nobody has one to lend me. I tried several phones that have video, but they all come out bad. I'm working on it. If I can't find one this week, I'm just going to buy one. I can always use it for other stuff. Don't worry I didn't forget about it.
Some of the worst phone speakers I have come across
Shame, the rest of the phone is great
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I don't have a good video camera, and nobody has one to lend me. I tried several phones that have video, but they all come out bad. I'm working on it. If I can't find one this week, I'm just going to buy one. I can always use it for other stuff. Don't worry I didn't forget about it.
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Thanks for taking the effort, as this could be a major development.
If your speaker really is very good, we can show this to HTC, and they will have to say that this is a warranty issue.
Personally I do really hope it is, because like london_euphoria said: the rest of the phone is great, it's only the external speaker that is a drawback.
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Thanks for taking the effort, as this could be a major development.
If your speaker really is very good, we can show this to HTC, and they will have to say that this is a warranty issue.
Personally I do really hope it is, because like london_euphoria said: the rest of the phone is great, it's only the external speaker that is a drawback.
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Agree. That's why I want to make sure it's a recording of the true quality, not a choppy cell phone recording. Bare with me. I should have it up this week.
Hello,
i noticed in a other Forum that the voice quality is very very bad when you recording a Video.
I also asked the men, if he has his finger on the microphones but he answerd that the microphones a free.
Look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WATp2swAQk&feature=player_embedded#at=23
a second video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJWmKSHv_s&feature=player_embedded
Do you know a solution for this problem??
I'm sorry for my english, not the best.
SOLVED, SGS2 HAS A PHSIYCAL PROBLEM YOU CAN CLOSE THIS THREAD OR DELETE IT!
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SOLVED, SGS2 HAS A PHSIYCAL PROBLEM YOU CAN CLOSE THIS THREAD OR DELETE IT![/SIZE]
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do u mean that the sound is bad no matter what?
fwiw I have recorded probably 20 videos already, never noticed a problem with sound. I do not expect studio quality THX level sound though from my phone.
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fwiw I have recorded probably 20 videos already, never noticed a problem with sound. I do not expect studio quality THX level sound though from my phone.
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yeah, ur right. I dont expect a THX quality as well, but I just checked Xperia Arc does it in 48KHz and iPhone 4 in 44KHz and the iphone's sound quality seems quite good, but I guess it might have a better mic
Maybe it's too much to ask for DSEE-HX
But, seriously, sounds like sh*t on headphone mode
much worse than stock 4.4.4
and speaker is worse as well
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It seems fixed after "walkman" is updated to "music"
Try update it and take a reboot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonyericsson.music&hl=en
"Music" update may not be available for you if u are not a beta tester
Then download it here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ONZFOkl3m7aDY1aUpCSVdDZVU/view
thanks @ImAnurag for sharing
hope it helps
KWOKSFUNG said:
Maybe it's too much to ask for DSEE-HX
But, seriously, sounds like sh*t on headphone mode
much worse than stock 4.4.4
and speaker is worse as well
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Very soft speaker and i am yet to test the headphones. We need to wait on some mods like dreamingonmusic. To be honest the Z1 never had good sound quality anyway.
mikailmohammed said:
Very soft speaker and i am yet to test the headphones. We need to wait on some mods like dreamingonmusic. To be honest the Z1 never had good sound quality anyway.
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Yeah never been good without mod, known to be worse than Xperia Z
Big drop as i used to use Dreamingonmusic
but 4.4.4 without mod seems still better than 5.0
I feel that sony just copy and paste 90% files from Z2 and Z3 690 so..... not well calibrated
Honestly, I find that music with headphones sounds great. I just make sure to turn on studio surround sound and adjust the equalizer based on what headphones I use.
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Honestly, I find that music with headphones sounds great. I just make sure to turn on studio surround sound and adjust the equalizer based on what headphones I use.
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Just feel no detail :'(
Using EX650AP, u?
It's funny how I made a post asking about the sound quality on the Q&A section. I guess no one visits the the Q&A section anymore
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It's funny how I made a post asking about the sound quality on the Q&A section. I guess no one visits the the Q&A section anymore
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KKKK sorry bro
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KKKK sorry bro
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No need for an apology. At least you got the attention of others for the same problem I'm wondering about.
Now isn't there anyway we can increase the loudness of the speaker? Maybe even the clarity too. Because the Audio mods for Kitkat are able to do that. I'm sure we can do the same on Lollipop
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Just feel no detail :'(
Using EX650AP, u?
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So what is your detail? You just complaint with your feeling too, aren't you?
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No need for an apology. At least you got the attention of others for the same problem I'm wondering about.
Now isn't there anyway we can increase the loudness of the speaker? Maybe even the clarity too. Because the Audio mods for Kitkat are able to do that. I'm sure we can do the same on Lollipop
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My friend in the dreamingonmusic team is trying out to make mods soon, really looking forward for it
If no good mods are made I am probably going back to 4.4.4 just for the music.
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So what is your detail? You just complaint with your feeling too, aren't you?
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I mean the resolution of the music.... pretty low that i cant hear the detail of the songs
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My friend in the dreamingonmusic team is trying out to make mods soon, really looking forward for it
If no good mods are made I am probably going back to 4.4.4 just for the music.
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Yeah let's hope your friend will be able to do it. Because I am not going back to 4.4.4
I notice a better quality of sound in headphones louder and better bass, but in speaker it sucks!!! There are no option for XLoud and the sound is ?
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I notice a better quality of sound in headphones louder and better bass, but in speaker it sucks!!! There are no option for XLoud and the sound is
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Is it? how can it be better headphones?
which headphone u using? did u use those default given headphones settings?
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Is it? how can it be better headphones?
which headphone u using? did u use those default given headphones settings?
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Yeah kind of, I have the default given and I tested in mi SBH20 and I notice a lil improvement in Bass and Loudness, what really sucks is in Speaker, I can't even hear my message notifications
count me in ! I have Sony MDR-XB950BT headphones and i listen a lot ! instantly noticed huge difference when updated... sound is too low and settings doesnt change much anymore... whats up with that sony ?!
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Yeah kind of, I have the default given and I tested in mi SBH20 and I notice a lil improvement in Bass and Loudness, what really sucks is in Speaker, I can't even hear my message notifications
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count me in ! I have Sony MDR-XB950BT headphones and i listen a lot ! instantly noticed huge difference when updated... sound is too low and settings doesnt change much anymore... whats up with that sony ?!
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I actually found the headphone volume is lowered too, maybe tends to be a bit more bass by its decrease of clearity. Yeah the speaker sucks and suffer feature loss x_x
Low volume isnt problem for me as i dont need high volume, just give me more clearity and resolution!!!!!!
Here's a quote from me on the Q&A Section:
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Updated to Lollipop yesterday. Of course I'm using Sony's official update and not CM12. So yeah I didn't bother to.watch any videos or listen to music because I updated my phone very late at night. But today, I realised the Audio seems broken. How is it broken? Well, I play a YouTube video at max volume. Seems fine but a little soft for being at max. As soon as I drag it down just a bit, it's like impossible to hear anything. When it reaches half volume, it feels like the minumum volume and the minimum volume feels like it's muted. Anyone have the same problem?
Tl;dr: Can't hear jack **** on near max volume
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I'm guessing you guys are facing the same issues? The speakers are WAY too soft. The difference in volume from Max to 3/4 is just too big. Too quiet on 3/4 and just average on max.
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Here's a quote from me on the Q&A Section:
I'm guessing you guys are facing the same issues? The speakers are WAY too soft. The difference in volume from Max to 3/4 is just too big. Too quiet on 3/4 and just average on max.
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Yeah, only the last two steps are a bit louder
Sony is getting lazy to calibrate the Z1
Me too guys. Sound quality is bad, sony is getting lazy as f*ck for z1 because they want to sell their z2/z3...
BlackSoulxxx said:
Me too guys. Sound quality is bad, sony is getting lazy as f*ck for z1 because they want to sell their z2/z3...
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seriously, not responsible to nerf our phone just becoz they want to sell the new one.
Maybe not hseehx but at least give us back what we used to have