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Audio quality of the Nexus One

Hi guys,
I am a iPhone convert (have used the 2G, 3G and the 3GS currently.)
Could you guys please give objective and subjective comments about the 'line out' of the Nexus One? I hope it doesn't blow as that will be sad.
Regards,
Karan Misra

No one listens to music on their Nexus One!?

it is a mono speaker not a stereo speaker.
if you listen you should use the earbuds.

cuitao said:
it is a mono speake no a stereo speaker. so quality is not good,
if you listen you should use the earbuds.
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I am talking about the 'line out' of the phone, i.e. using good to high end ear phones (like Shure, Sennheiser CX500, etc) through the 3.5 mm jack.

I'm waiting for mine to get in today so I can sink my Etymotic hf5 canalphones into it.

student.driver said:
I'm waiting for mine to get in today so I can sink my Etymotic hf5 canalphones into it.
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Eagerly waiting for your feedback.

I hope it is not bad like the HD2 though HD2 scores a 10 out of 100 with 100 given to the 3GS. Speaking from personal experience (corroborating by http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-review-418p8.php... scroll down to the audio quality comparision)

KiD0M4N said:
Hi guys,
I am a iPhone convert (have used the 2G, 3G and the 3GS currently.)
Could you guys please give objective and subjective comments about the 'line out' of the Nexus One? I hope it doesn't blow as that will be sad.
Regards,
Karan Misra
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It's not too bad for music, I don't know what you would expect from it but as I listen to music only on the train, it's pretty good for me. one thing: the overall volume is a bit low...
Also the stock earphones suck pretty bad. they are barely good for phone calls and no bass at all.

wow fail sorry this post was BS just technical difficulties. but FYI the included headphones, tho not sounding or feeling spectacular, have a remote that has a mic and play/pause/end call and forward/backward. so that's neat .

Regular headphones that use a 3.5mm headphone connector (common to various media players, etc) will work just fine with Nexus One.

cboy007 said:
OMG BIG ISSUE. headphone dont work. like this is like the iphone or whatever. you need special headphone i think? my zune headphones wont work. the ones that come with it have the like remote thing like the iphone and so my normal headhpones wont work. i mean these headphones arent horrible quality but still my comfy zune squishy ones! ah! can anyone confirm this? btw the ones that come have THREE black bands along the connector instead of the regular 2...
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Something's wrong at your end bro... a issue like that won't go past Q/A you know.
swetland said:
Regular headphones that use a 3.5mm headphone connector (common to various media players, etc) will work just fine with Nexus One.
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Have you tried the playback? Hows the clarity, bass, and noise level?

WOW FAIL WHAT THE HECK NOW IT WORKS. htat was weird. it was defienitely in all the way before too. maybe it was because i put them in before i opened up music app...idk that was weird. anyways now my zune ones work and sound beautiful and bass-y. . i'm not an audiophile but i think these sound just as good as with my zune. woo

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WOW FAIL WHAT THE HECK NOW IT WORKS. htat was weird. it was defienitely in all the way before too. maybe it was because i put them in before i opened up music app...idk that was weird. anyways now my zune ones work and sound beautiful and bass-y. . i'm not an audiophile but i think these sound just as good as with my zune. woo
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Thats a good indicator. Any comparisons to the 3GS/HD2?
Surely geeks also listen to music

cboy007 said:
wow fail sorry this post was BS just technical difficulties. but FYI the included headphones, tho not sounding or feeling spectacular, have a remote that has a mic and play/pause/end call and forward/backward. so that's neat .
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Tried a pair of Shure SE530s, Sony V700s and my Zune buds...all work just fine.

kido...since it seems on par with my zune as far as i can tell i'm assuming it's just as good as the 3gs...but again i'm not at all an audiophile.

I hooked my N1 up to a pair beyerdynamic DT880s and ran through a few musical styles with MP3s ripped using lame with vbr -q 0.
The jack provided enough power to power the DT880s reasonably well without an amp but I probably would not try high impedance headphones. Anything "in ear" will be fine and by the time you get to the point you would need an amp it would be a waste to use them on a phone. Sound range is fine, perhaps a bit neutral, it is not weighted heavily towards bass which some cheaper mp3 players do.
Treble is clean but perhaps a bit thin. As you get into the high end of mid range it is a little muddy (the guitar felt fuzzy in Imperfectly as an example). Over all the sound is better than the G1, the only other phone I have handy to compare real time.
Rest of the mid range down to bass is good. The bass is not overpowering but solid. Against a neutral rig I would say that the Nexus probably accentuates the lower range but not a lot. If you really want a driving beat (the physical feel) in techno then you probably would need some form of equalizer but other than that it is fine, though not powerful.
Songs used:
Reactivate by DJ Akira
Jet Pilot by System of a Down
Metabolic by Slipknot
Imperfectly by Ani DiFranco
Glory O' by Blood or Whiskey (note: lower bitrate MP3. Really did not like the blend but on ear buds it would probably be fine)
Dulaman by Clannad
Machine Screw by Type O Negative ( )
Black Box Recording by Firewater
I did not have any classical with me but if need be I can add some (or other musical style that you are interested in).
As an addendum I would note that the included earbuds are utterly craptastic. If you want to listen to music for any reason other than to drown out the background I would suggest getting better.
EDIT: for the heck of it I put in a amp and it helped the bass a bit, the rest seemed about the same. The difference was not remarkable but noticeable.

Thanks for the detailed reply my friend.
Waiting for comparoes to the iPhone line up.

So mine is finally shipped....
I will let you all know... since no one evidently listens to music here

I would rate it as just okay compared to my 3GS, not bad but not great either....

I had similar results to JP up there, i used the HD555's that i have and got a fair sound out of it... again bass wasnt overpowering but produced enough to get my head bobbin (deadmau5 was my primary artist of choice)...
i would like to see a quality equalizer app/widget/phone integration in the future since i prolly wont need to carry my ipod around anymore now that i have a phone with a proper jack

External Speaker Quality ?

Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!

themonkster said:
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
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if you are familiar with the other HTC phones such as the Desire and Nexus One, then this is pretty much the same on the HD. Quality is "bearable", but it is simply not loud enough. Max setting on the Desire HD is approx60-70& of Milestone Speaker loudness.

Yep, its the worst I have had...but the quality of the phone makes up for it.

Well its not good but to say its really bad.. when you use dolby mobile its okay.. and when you use dolby mobile on headset its AWESOME!! best i've ever heard on any phone / mp3 player

Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.

Maybe someone will make an audio hack so it goes louder!
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

zen123 said:
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
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for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?

NoEnd said:
for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
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Ring volume is not that great I'm afraid.

I'm the reviewer...
I just find it so annoying, look at the San Fran, £99 and it's speaker is FAR better. Come on HTC!!!

The speaker is rubbish, it's just not loud enough. You can't even hear the GPS talking in a car lol.

If you want to see how sad it is, ive just updated the video thread with it in the bugs/problems sections a guy had some laugh with it.

to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!

SupremeBeaver said:
to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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im skeptical of how awesome it is, ive been spoiled with sound quality with my cowon S9 and Q-jays IEM's, im hoping that the DHD will sound on par with the cowon however i doubt it will be
awesome compared to iphone/ipod ....now that i can see

Speaker is woeful
I can also confirm that the external speaker is really disappointing. I criticised the original Desire for poor speaker volume and the promise of Dolby Mobile and SRS was one of the deal breakers in choosing to upgrade to the HD.
The ringtone selection is limited because you need to look for ones that are naturally loud. Forget watching some videos on the awesome screen when you can't hear the audio. I guess SatNav is going to be difficult too.
I use MixZing to improve speaker output for music when earphones are not nearby. But unless a hack appears to increase native volume, it's going to be a problem for a lot of people.
As a plus point, sound through ear/headphones is very impressive. Still needs a volume boost but perfectly acceptable for music playback.

Reminds me of the streak when i got it on 1.6 the speaker was quiet and made odd noises when put up full then came 2.1 its louder and clearer....Quite possibly a retarded software safety limit implemented.
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this is a deal breaker for me!
i thought with the SRS and all other crap they advertised that the speakers would be a bit decent! i have the n1 and the loud speaker and earpiece just total crap even with the hack to make them louder...
been missing a lot of calls cuz can't hear the phone (don't like vibration) ringing and when listening to the other side i try to find a quite place to listen to them as if i raise the volume the sound become very high pitched ..
damn you HTC i though the loud speaker would be at least like the ones in the EVO which is quite good!
a 50 bucks Chinese phone has far way better speaker than this crappy 700+ phone
hmm maybe most HTC's employees are bats! use high pitched frequencies to communicate

Can anyone compare the loudspeaker with HD2 ? HD2 seems even too loud for me.

video on how terrible the speaker is

just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95

Yeah the speaker sucks, my old phone was the N95 and the speakers on that are a lot better than the DHD I have now.

who knows;9118124 just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
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I agree that the speaker on DHD is be low and "terrible" to people but I don't think it is fair to compare it to the nokia n95 which I think probably have one of the best speakerS (since it has 2 huge external speakers). Nokia is known for being a great music phone too.

aah, the N95, amazing sound. Used to have it for a long time, then got my first HTC (touch HD) and was extremely disappointed with the sound quality, and now that I got the desire hd, my ears got used to the crappy low-tech sound quality! well you cant have them all in one phone

wonder
I just wonder if there is HW problem with speaker or its simply limited by software ? because I really couldnt belive that it would be that big problem to add louder speaker..

To start with, I made that comparison video. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I am utterly disappointed by the speaker quality of the Desire HD.
I fear that this is hardware related, as the speakers sound very high-pitched, without any low tones at all. Also, when at maximum volume playing high toned music, the sound starts to distort and crackle. As you can hear, you can hear the low tones pretty loud and clear on the N95, but on the Desire HD, you can't hear it at all. The volume is noticeably about 2.5x louder on the N95.
If you compare the Desire HD with the Galaxy S, you will quickly notice that the Galaxy S has even better speakers than the N95, with plenty of low tones, at a high volume. The volume of the Galaxy S is many times higher and clearer than the Desire HD.
All of this leads me to conclude that for a flagship phone as the Desire HD is, it really has crappy speakers, and I truly don't understand how they could make a ****up like this. How much would good speakers cost anyway? Cents?
I expect a flagship multimedia phone like the Desire HD is to have proper speakers, comparable or better than we had in the N95 time (the flagship multimedia phone 3+ years ago). Samsung seems not to have any trouble to achieve this, but for some reason HTC didn't -utterly unexpected-.
Now let me be clear: even with the bad speakers, the Desire HD is a much better choice than the Galaxy S for several reasons, but really, HOW THE HELL have they achieved to fail so miserably on this point?? I'll make another video soon to compare speakers of the Desire HD against the Galaxy S. Also check out the other video's in my channel, rate and comment!

I think in general HTC's phones have sucky speakers, even that new HTC 7 phone with that big speaker isn't that impressive.

tried poweramp and turned they volumes up on that and it just crackled looks like its gunna be a replacement speaker hopefully the samsung galaxy s is similar in design, if so ill try and make it fit lol

What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.

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What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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The most Annoying thing is that I can't even hear it in my pocket as a matter of fact the speaker is so bad I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying

who knows said:
I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
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Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...its screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!

ErMeglio said:
Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...it's screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
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i was watching tv, and the phone was around 5/6 meters away and i didnt have vibration on.. to be honest i couldnt believe it myself i even rang the phone to see if any music was playing lol

so how is in-call volume? is it just external sound or in-call volume sucks too?

That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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So that would mean that all of us have faulty speakers.
Someone else also said his speakers were great, so I guess a few people got decent ones.

Can we use SE Live View with this ? Does it have better speakers than this ? A option for not missing the calls ??
P.S- I m yet to buy DHD

007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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Are you sure you are talking about de DHD? And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?

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And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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I don't know how he configured his DHD properly, but i think on DHD there're much more options to optimize sound quality than changing volume. I think abound de-/activate SRS and/or dolby mobile and there should be also an equalizer be integrated.
Think about that you shouln'd compare the quality of sound with any other devices than other smartphones or mobiles.

I've registered just to post a comment on the speaker quality. It's terrible. I'm not talking about headphones or the internal speaker. Specifically the loudspeaker. It's tinny, clips at higher volumes, and is worse than phones I had more than 5 years ago. I'm seriously considering sending the phone back on this basis.

Yep they are crap. I can't believe they've put something like this in one of the most expensive devices on the market.
Yesterday I was watching an episode of Family Guy and the quality of the sound was terrible. I thought it could be because of the codecs I used to convert the vid. I tried few mp3s (256bit) still crap. The louder I've put the volume the lower the quality went. Very very disappointing.
Still though... I love the phone and wouldn't change it for anything else. I wasn't expecting to get All-in-one device.

How you guys find the audio quality of the phone?

I'm pretty curious to know since GSMArena lambasted the audio output of the device when playing via headphones.
How do you guys find the quality? Acceptable?

I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.

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I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.
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How about the speaker where we listen to other people when we are on a call?
And other people hear you well?

People on call sound very clear, and I haven't had any complaints from people while I'm talking to them.

sound quality is fine i have no complaints or issues reported from people i have called or have called me speaker phone is good no issues there unless the volume is all the way up it will distort but that is the same for most phones i beleive
i also have it paired with the sexii SE HBH is800 and have no issues
PS im loving the phone

Tough choice... I wish the screen is 4inch thou. The price point is ideal for an early adopter set.

Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!

Commander Data said:
Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!
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Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!

Necroman_AI said:
Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!
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It's certainly manageable. I just had a 15 minute conversation on speakerphone and the other person seemed to be able to hear me fine and I could hear them fine, it's just not excellent. I came from the Milestone, which has a superb speaker. I would say the speaker on the LG is probably half the size so it really comes down to volume. If you crank it, it gets fairly distorted (especially on calls), but at medium volume there is no distortion and you can hear it fine. In other words, it is not a selling feature on the phone, but not a detractor (I had a Blackberry before this and it wasn't as good on speakerphone). Personally, the LG's superior built quality all around is more than enough to make up for a middle of the road speaker. I think gsmarena complained about the speaker because the rest of the phone is truly at premium class and they would have liked to have seen the speaker at the premium level too.
Edit: I should note that the conversation I had on speakerphone had two other people listening in with me and they heard fine.

Thanks Commander

Why do people complain about G2 Speakers?

I don't get it.
Try and follow the logic.
You want to hear some good quality music...
so you decide to use a cellphone's built in speaker instead of an audiophile headphone or portable speakers.
What is the point?
I mean, first of all, if you want to listen to HQ music on anything other than a dedicated mp3 player (iPod does NOT count, I'm talking about something like Samsung YP-P2 or YP-P3, or the Cowon S9), it is absolute redundant.
I can't even eloquently express my confusion at you people.
Like, obviously the cell phone speakers are naturally gonna be shiet compared to real ones, or even small little portable ones for that matter.
So if you use them, of course it is gonna be ****ty, so why complain?
And if you really do want high quality music, then you wouldn't be using a cellphone for media playback nor using the built in speakers to do the job.
It's like saying, oh man, this Toyota Corolla does soooo bad on the racing track.

Lol. Because complaining is fun, I guess.
I remember the ads for the desire hd claiming that it had "quality stereo sound." Anybody taken a test listen?
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Ok. There's some of us that aren't audiophiles. So we resort to our phones speaker. Of course you can't expect great ear busting speakers but I mean CMON! Htcs giving us what seems like desire hds blown out garbage. Not cool bro
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I wish they would start putting the speakers on the side, because its quite pointless to have the audio from a video or a game pointed away from you.

If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.

lombardo8 said:
If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.
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Aren't there kernels available for your phone that increase Max volume? And dsp manager works for eq. Dunno if dsp is in market, or just on the forum. Most roms I flash for my Evo come with it, and the kernels I flash come with audio gain.
Sorry, I haven't checked your guys forum, just accidentally stumbled across this thread.
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lombardo8 said:
If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.
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I have to agree a bit here. I'm no audiophile, but enjoy listening to music. I don't expect any super high quality from a cell phone speaker. But you don't have to be an audiophile to notice the speaker quality is not great. And the main reason others complain is that other cell phones do it better. The HTC Touch Pro 2 is a very similar phone in many ways (same manufacturer, similar size, some of the same features like the landscape hardware keyboard) but has a somewhat better sounding speaker. So HTC did it better before. The Vision is a step forward in so many ways, but a slight step backward in terms of the speaker. And the sound quality applies to the speaker phone, not just playing music.
Although I would stop short of actually "complaining" about the speaker quality. Its still pretty adequate for the times I want to listen to music or use the speaker phone, and can't (or don't want to) connect to an external speaker or headphones. It doesn't really detract much at all from the fact that I absolutely love my Desire Z!

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Aren't there kernels available for your phone that increase Max volume? And dsp manager works for eq. Dunno if dsp is in market, or just on the forum. Most roms I flash for my Evo come with it, and the kernels I flash come with audio gain.
Sorry, I haven't checked your guys forum, just accidentally stumbled across this thread.
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The speaker already sounds pretty tinny when the volume is maxed out. I don't know if increasing the max volume would do much, but distort the sound even more. But a decent equalizer might make the speaker at least sound better. DSP Manager is not a market app, it needs to be flashed. And I've read posts that the flashable DSP Manager doesn't work on the Vision. You either have to flash a custom ROM that includes it, or possibly do some heavy tinkering to get DSP Manager to work.

Its not really a speaker to begin with.
ITS A RINGER!!!
Its purpose is to make a NOISE that you can identify as the PHONE RINGING. That is ALL.

dhkr123 said:
Its not really a speaker to begin with.
ITS A RINGER!!!
Its purpose is to make a NOISE that you can identify as the PHONE RINGING. That is ALL.
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Uh, no. Smartphones for years have had speakers designed for playing music and for use as a speakerphone. Even most dumbphones have a speaker for speakerphone use. Obviously the small size is not meant to replace larger speakers. But its decent to use for playing music. Just not as good as many other phones.

when i use speaker phone they arent loud enough sometimes
when i use the phone normally to my ear the speaker isnt loud enough sometimes
any other questions?
not everyone is complaining about the "playing music" aspect.

redpoint73 said:
Uh, no. Smartphones for years have had speakers designed for playing music and for use as a speakerphone. Even most dumbphones have a speaker for speakerphone use. Obviously the small size is not meant to replace larger speakers. But its decent to use for playing music. Just not as good as many other phones.
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No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.

dhkr123 said:
No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.
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You think just saying something in caps magically makes it fact?
The phone is equipped with a speakerphone, therefore its a speaker. You're the only one here that thinks its a "ringer".
You can call it whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that other phones have better sounding "ringers" including the past generation of similar HTC phone.

dhkr123 said:
No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.
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What exactly is a ringer? Is this another term for a buzzer (like a piezoelectric or magnetic) that I'm not familiar with?
The last time I heard the term ringer as it applied to a design component was for the old mechanical bell ringers used in landline phones (a long time ago). And as far as I know, landline phones nowadays all use tone ringer circuitry connected to either a buzzer or a speaker. Also, buzzers cannot be used to produce music (they require a square wave to produce noise as opposed to the sine waves used by speakers).
I was also under the impression that all modern cell phones used a speaker (just with varying degrees of cost/quality of the speaker itself and the type of amplification circuitry used, if any at all).

For me, I'm complaining about the lack of volume when using the speakerphone in call. Music wise, it doesn't bother me, but phone call wise, it does.
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The speakers on the Galaxy S phones are actually good for audio/video playback.

They have to do something good....

I too noticed that my G1 had a far better loudspeaker, in both quality and volume once rooted and using Audiohack. The G2 speaker at about 3/4ths volume starts to sound like the speaker is blown. I tried everything and nothing seems to help this.
Try calling 611 for tmobile and put it on loudspeaker, I can almost guarantee it will be just about useless at anything over half. It is noticeably worse for actual conversation as opposed to music, but even music is far worse than the previous androids I've owned.
Any word on a physical mod to improve this?

Gigamaster89 said:
The speakers on the Galaxy S phones are actually good for audio/video playback.
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blunted09 said:
They have to do something good....
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They do. Hardware components. AMOLED Screens, decent speakers, Gorilla glass, great chips/GPUs. They just can't program for ****. Nor can they design an original looking phone - er, hello iPhone 3G/Samsung Galaxy S. Even their latest Galaxy Cooper is a blatant copy of the iPhone 4.

Gigamaster89 said:
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Yes. Hardware wise you can't get anything better than a galaxy S. Software wise they suck If it wasn't for XDA they'd be worthless light bricks
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