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Last night I went to take my first picture in dimly lit conditions ( I was in the Pub DJ'ing), and am hugely dissapointed!!
Firstly you cannot see anything on the screen when trying to look at the subject about to be photographed, for a second I thought the screen had tuned off it was that black!!
So I then took the photo (blind) and this was the result.......
Asside from the fact that it is blurry which was probably down to me not holding the phone steady as I was in shocked disbelief that I could not see anything, it is a terrible picture, he looks like a ghost because of the white out effect from the flash!
It really was a bad experience which is a million miles away from the day time photo taking pleasure that see results like this....
Although it is still a little washed out.
Does anyone have any tips for better quality pics?? Or a tweak that actually allows you to see what your about to photo when it's pooly lit (like in a Pub)?
Cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584675
Cheers but it's not the pink splodge i'm dissapointed with, I cant see that in any of my pics.
It's the fact that you cant see anything on the screen or focus when your in low light conditions, shooting blind, and then the white out effect!
i have the same problem too! you cant change the flash settings as far as i know. but the flash is way too bright(makes a great flashlight though )
I find that if you turn the assistance flash on before you take the photo, the light levels are better adjusted.
Theres seems to be a problem with the flash timing/sync etc..!!!
its a commoon problem, ive contacted HTC(as have others). Check out this thread to see their replys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=590916
Karlos G said:
Last night I went to take my first picture in dimly lit conditions ( I was in the Pub DJ'ing), and am hugely dissapointed!!
Firstly you cannot see anything on the screen when trying to look at the subject about to be photographed, for a second I thought the screen had tuned off it was that black!!
So I then took the photo (blind) and this was the result.......
Asside from the fact that it is blurry which was probably down to me not holding the phone steady as I was in shocked disbelief that I could not see anything, it is a terrible picture, he looks like a ghost because of the white out effect from the flash!
It really was a bad experience which is a million miles away from the day time photo taking pleasure that see results like this....
Although it is still a little washed out.
Does anyone have any tips for better quality pics?? Or a tweak that actually allows you to see what your about to photo when it's pooly lit (like in a Pub)?
Cheers!
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My HD2 takes pretty good pics for a phone.
Any updates on the flash adjustments
I agree. It seems crazy for you to be expected to frame a shot properly when the screen is pitch black ,the light should come on on its own when the light sensor detects that it is dark!
The best thing to do for now is to manually turn the flash on using the flash button before you take the shot, at least thats an easy work around.
ftr2k8 said:
I find that if you turn the assistance flash on before you take the photo, the light levels are better adjusted.
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Yup... try this.
gator70 said:
Any updates on the flash adjustments
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No nothing
beyondthought said:
Theres seems to be a problem with the flash timing/sync etc..!!!
its a commoon problem, ive contacted HTC(as have others). Check out this thread to see their replys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=590916
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Yeah i'm active in that thread mate.... I actually started this thread on the 22nd of November
ftr2k8 said:
I find that if you turn the assistance flash on before you take the photo, the light levels are better adjusted.
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Yup... try this.
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Nope makes no differnece whatsover..................
Example pic...
Camera -> Settings -> Page 2/5 -> Keep Lighting -> TURN OFF
Problem solved.
Why would turning the screen backlight off solve anything??
fuzzifikation said:
Camera -> Settings -> Page 2/5 -> Keep Lighting -> TURN OFF
Problem solved.
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that does nothing
the camera is bloody crap surely they did some form of testing on this before the put it out
lol the camera is fine, its not as good in macro if you use the camera flash, what I do is just turn the flash on using the torch aplication, then have the flash set to off in the camera app and all is fine.
Karlos G - You have a very hot chick mate...
fuzzifikation said:
Camera -> Settings -> Page 2/5 -> Keep Lighting -> TURN OFF
Problem solved.
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Worked for me! No more white ghosts!
paulking said:
that does nothing
the camera is bloody crap surely they did some form of testing on this before the put it out
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Guess not?!
bronx said:
Karlos G - You have a very hot chick mate...
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LMAO Hard to tell from that pic!
dude0014 said:
Worked for me! No more white ghosts!
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Random?!
bahardman said:
My HD2 takes pretty good pics for a phone.
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Peace gardens!! You live in Sheffield?
Sadly I don't think there's much you can do here, that's just the nature of LED flash; it's just useless (and that's why you never see it on normal cameras). And this thing has TWO LED flashbulbs xD
They should have just used xenon flash like a normal camera?? But I think they use far more battery life.
So I like most everything about my nexus but the way it takes pictures. Its not so much a real issue because it doesn't prevent the camera from working.. but it seems the chip/sensor they used for the camera gives a red spot in all pictures in the center of the image, most noticeably in pictures with a white or light background/image. I'll attach a picture so everyone else can confirm what I mean... I was hoping we could get HTC to replace the phones that have this issue via the warranty as this seems to be an issue with many nexus ones (based on a couple of reviews and the pictures they provided there). Here's my sample picture. You can also see it on screen when looking at what you're going to take a picture of.
Also I do research in a lab and its a procedure for an experiment I'm doing... just realized what I was posting might seem odd... didn't really read it before posting.
It is a software issue, so they are not going to do a warranty replacement. Droid had the same deal with it, seems to be something with the base 2.0/1 Android framework, I am sure it will be fixed when google releases their bug fix update(don't ask when, no legit idea beyond guessing sometime around the start of February, since that seems to be the typical timeline with phone bug updates, about 30 days after launch the first update is released).
Correction. It's a HARDWARE issue. Dont believe me? leave your cammera on for a couple minutes.. Goes away right? Its cuz droid camera was the same.. or similar? They had a bad batch. Mine has no pink eye(N1) =>
The Droid's issue was partially a software problem...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/motorola-droid-camera-autofocus-fixed-in-secrecy/
As well, it is a "who really knows?"
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=10749
It seems many phones, with different camera's and so forth are having this issue... CCD seems to be the manufacturer of all the sensors, though, so perhaps there is a problem with the firmware from CCD causing this?
I highly doubt that every single camera sensor ever made by this company happens to have this sort of issue due to hardware. That would be pretty insane! However, if it was a firmware issue, then it would be present in every handset that uses a CCD manufactured/firmware supported camera, and this seems to be the case.
As well, it has already been stated the HD2 will get an update that fixes it. Hopefully the Nexus One is in the same boat. I didn't notice it on the test unit I used, but I asked the current tester if it was happening, and on all 3 it is present. It isn't noticeable in most pictures, though, especially with the flash on, FXcamera set to the proper white balance, and so forth.
EVERY Nexus One you get will have this issue. IT IS SOFTWARE. My N1 has it, the replacement I got has it too.
I've just taken a load of pictures and no pink from what I can see with both flash on and off.
Took pictures of a white surface and no pink. Must be hardware.
EDIT: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink
Do you have any camera apps installed? FXcamera with proper white balance settings(sometimes auto is perfect, sometimes you have to do it manually) makes it go away a lot of the time too.
Eh Hem.. Guys are you all forgetting that my N1 DOES NOT HAVE PINK EYE
From what I understand this is a hardware issue. This was also present in an earlier HTC phone (I think the HD2) running a different OS altogether.
yes this was a widespread issue on the HD2... and it was completley fixed by a SOFTWARE UPDATE! >.<
A cursory search of the words "hd2 pink camera issue" on Google seems to imply that this is actually a hardware issue.
Edit: The source of the confusion http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-pink-camera-problem-on-htc-hd2-9140202/:
HTC first confirmed it as an hardware issue but then later they found out that it was infact a software issue, rather than a hardware one.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/a_hardware_fault_causes_htc_hd2_*pink*_camera_issues_confirmed-news-1276.php
I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera (Guess...) to cancel out the HARDWARE problem with YOUR camera. But again.. It is a Hardware issue for sure. Sorry guys xD I win!
I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo. Soooo yaaahhhh... Notice that the cameras are the same for droid HD2 and Nexus one? and those are the only 3 with the issue? Not the G1 with ported software? => hardware folks
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I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo.
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You asked someone in support; customer support for any company is always uninformed. These aren't the people making press releases or even official forum posts.
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I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera...
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I agree, just because the manufacturer releases a software fix doesn't mean its a software problem to begin with.
The first day I had the phone, I really noticed the pink spot. Yesterday I took 30 pictures, I didn't notice it at all. Today If I look hard enough I think I see a little tiny pink, viewing the image of a white piece of paper in the same place (office) I first tested the camera.
Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.
dinan said:
Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.
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My n1 has it too. Ive tried it now in room with room light and it gives this violett spot when i tak a picture with automatic colorbalance, if i put room light as colorbalance there is no spot...
google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all
navahoo said:
google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all
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I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?
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I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?
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That's because it was removed by Google. I read it this afternoon. Is not there any longer. The Google employee was "Tommy" and you can't find his posts any more.
You can read other people's response to his post but his don't show up any longer.
well, that post is very hopeful. i suppose all we can do is hope for the best. i dont know if google deleting the post is good or bad though
Seeing as there wasn't one, or rather one that I wasn't aware of or very popular, I think it would be a good thing to have a thread where users post pictures they have taken with their HD2 and what if any hot fixes applied.
I think I did the pink spot hotfix, using TMOUS HD2
i like this photo i took from the Brig O' Doon in Scotland.
Some pics, out in nature
Here is some pics form nature
Some pics taken with Bsb tweak:
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However it's nice to see natural environment from all around the world ^^
i'd just like to point out these pictures have been taken before i upgraded to 1.72
i will update this again to allow comparison
as you can see, i have abit of a 'thing' for Vauxhall/Opel Tigra's
quasi_mojo said:
i'd just like to point out these pictures have been taken before i upgraded to 1.72
i will update this again to allow comparison
as you can see, i have abit of a 'thing' for Vauxhall/Opel Tigra's
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Oh my gosh, I take it you are joking?
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Oh my gosh, I take it you are joking?
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LOL no! the blue one is my daily driver (a go-kart with number plates really) the white one is something special... 2ltr turbo, 335BHP and still climbing!
quasi_mojo said:
LOL no! the blue one is my daily driver (a go-kart with number plates really) the white one is something special... 2ltr turbo, 335BHP and still climbing!
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Fair enough
a Carp
touch-x rom un tweeked cam shot
While Bulls were playing fwe weeks ago, I got this one with HD2 in dark room (no other light other than the TV).
TV is Samsung 1080p (120Hz)...
just a quick question.
What's your Resolution Size?
I just keep everything on 2MP and SuperFine.
some shots
i've taken these shots during sunset outside of my home. original pics are over 300 kb in size but xda server compressed them.
gorelshv said:
i've taken these shots during sunset outside of my home. original pics are over 300 kb in size but xda server compressed them.
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without click on those photos, and just seeing the thumbnails makes me believe that you have a horrible pink blur on ur hd2. but maybe that's just the sun.
First lakers playoff game and hot reporters
Santa Barbara Mission
simeezee said:
First lakers playoff game and hot reporters
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omg, you have a bad case of pink blur on ur hd2 from looking at ur thumbnails!!!
lemonspeakers said:
omg, you have a bad case of pink blur on ur hd2 from looking at ur thumbnails!!!
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what is that mean?
That means your phone is broken and you have to give it to me...!
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what is that mean?
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loook at ur pictures. most htc suffer a pink blotch in the center of their photos. who ever's sensors they are using are ****. they need to fix that. I noticed that even on the hTC droid incredible today as well in-stores.
some from disney world
They look alot better at 5mp res.
i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
zero383 said:
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.
Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors
demo23019 said:
Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
svanheulen said:
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.
not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently
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thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?
shamarama said:
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.
They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up
I'm not debating about whether there's a sharpening effect on texts on all G3s or not... But it's definitely noticeable on mine. So for those who also feel this way, I hope this works for you too.
I basically stumbled on this. it worked for Me but YMMV. I used iFont to change the phone's font, and then set the font to restore back to default font, but set the new font as the default font. After rebooting and everything, all the new fonts do not register the sharpening effect anymore. I have to be honest, I'm not sure if it's just the applying of a new font, or the setting of the new font as default that made the difference (I think it's the latter), but now my text is ultra sharp. Hope this helps some of you. And if it actually does work for others as well, please share it - because for me the sharpening effect was very obvious and annoying.
Just wanted to open a thread on this because it's the only thing that has fixed this problem on my G3 and hoping it might work and benefit a few of you.
Can you give us a picture of the result
Before & after pics?
I've been trying use ifont but it I saying my connection isn't good enough lol LTE.... Guess I'll try WiFi later ....
2SHAYNEZ
Placebo city.
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Just a warning, I've heard some people get bootloops with iFont, so be careful, backup, etc. No problems for me as I've tried several different fonts so far.
Here are a few screenshots of text on my G3 now... unfortunately I don't have a before shot, since I can no longer revert back to the original font.
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Just a warning, I've heard some people get bootloops with iFont, so be careful, backup, etc. No problems for me as I've tried several different fonts so far.
Here are a few screenshots of text on my G3 now... unfortunately I don't have a before shot, since I can no longer revert back to the original font.
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Screenshots wont show the sharpening...
Tried it and absolutely no effect on sharpening.
Can you detail step by step what you did? and take a photo of your screen for proof please
Some fonts look better with the effect that others, but the effect is still there, this does nothing.
like i said, worked for me but it seems like it's not working for others. Just sharing my experience...not a huge hassle to try it anyway if you find the text effect to be annoying.
It seems the Ubuntu font is doing great over here. The sharpening is less intrussive. Thnx for the tip!
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like i said, worked for me but it seems like it's not working for others. Just sharing my experience...not a huge hassle to try it anyway if you find the text effect to be annoying.
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Its not working for you, its just making it less obvious because the font doesant look so bad with the sharpening. Ive been using an alternative font for months now using this method, and it helps, but it doesn't remove the effect. You can still see it on other UI elements.
tsaojam said:
Just a warning, I've heard some people get bootloops with iFont, so be careful, backup, etc. No problems for me as I've tried several different fonts so far.
Here are a few screenshots of text on my G3 now... unfortunately I don't have a before shot, since I can no longer revert back to the original font.
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What font are you using?
Japultra said:
What font are you using?
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Latos
Pfeffernuss said:
Placebo city.
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Is there an unthank button?
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Is there an unthank button?
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Great that it apparently works for you.
Except, it does not :good:
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Great that it apparently works for you.
Except, it does not :good:
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I've never noticed any over sharpening on my screen. Not saying it doesn't exist, just that it may not occur on every device. That being said, I do think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion as I have compared several G3s to other devices side-by-side and have yet to notice anything bothersome.
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I've never noticed any over sharpening on my screen. Not saying it doesn't exist, just that it may not occur on every device. That being said, I do think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion as I have compared several G3s to other devices side-by-side and have yet to notice anything bothersome.
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People are not alike. The AS is absolutely horrific, depending on the size/thickness/color of the font.
acparker18 said:
I've never noticed any over sharpening on my screen. Not saying it doesn't exist, just that it may not occur on every device. That being said, I do think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion as I have compared several G3s to other devices side-by-side and have yet to notice anything bothersome.
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It occurs on every device. It's built into the device. What does change from device to device is the color schemes used. It is much more noticeable with some font / background color combos than others. I think it's probably also less noticeable the less acute one's vision is.