Hi,
This is my first post here. I got my htc hero a couple days ago and I've spent most of that time tinkering with it. I'm generally loving it, although I prefer the original android home screen to htc's custom interface. I've noticed that some things like the phonebook are quite laggy, and am under the impression that android's stock phonebook would feel much snappier.
So I would like to install a stock cupcake or donut android to my phone. The thing is, I'm really new to this so I'm not even sure if it's possible. Can it be done? Has any of you guys done it? Even if I succeed, will I be able to use my phone to call and send messages, or will I need to do extra stuff? Can I backup everything in my phone, so that I'll be able to revert it if I break something or I decide that no, the sense ui was better after all?
You see that's a lot of questions, I really hope you guys can give me a hand with this.
Cheers!
After reading some other threads, I think I have some of my questions answered. But do you guys know if any of the stock android builds works with the hero? Can I install anything to it, apart from the system that came with the phone?
you can only install Hero builds on your phone! currently there are none as the phone just came out. So just be patient. If you think the UI is too laggy.. clear default home screen and use regular launcher..
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM. WARNING though, i dont think that has been done yet. reasons in include
WHY WHY WHY?
Hero has exchange support, basic flash support.
barryallott said:
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM.
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Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
frandavid100 said:
Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
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And you would lose this 'awesome' keyboard!
Just turn off SenseUI. The rest of Android runs underneath.
Where are the default Calendar and Contact apps ?
I'm in exactly the same boat as frandavid100. I love the Hero's hardware, but most of SenseUI is too flashy; I don't care about most of the improvements (seven home screens, irritating widgets, lots of Facebook/Twitter/Flickr integration, exchange support) and I'd say some of them are worse than the alternative (the calendar doesn't show as much information in the month view; Flash in the browser just makes websites much, much slower and doesn't work for video).
On the other hand, apparently 1.5 is much faster, and 2.0 (on release) will have multitouch in Google Maps as well as in the browser, so I'd like to get running the stock Android operating system.
I don't know anything about cooking ROMs, though, so I'll wait for a kind benefactor. Hopefully it's not just frandavid100 and I who want a faster version of Android...
Glad to see I'm not alone.
Anyway, is there a way to test the stock android keyboard and phonebook? I kinda dig htc's keyboard, with its compact qwerty layout, but I hate the phonebook and I haven't found a decent alternative in the market.
+1
Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
phcollignon said:
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Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
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You already effectively have Cupcake on the Hero - firmware version is V1.5, which is a Cupcake build. If you just drop Sense UI, your back to almost a vanilla G1 build, which the exception you have HTC keyboards and apps as opposed to Google ones. Given that the hardware in the Hero is pretty similar to the Magic (at least those with 288mb RAM), there isn't exactly any additional "power" to harness either!
With respect to Donut, as far as I'm aware there are *no* operational Donut ROMs available for the G1, Magic, or Hero as yet.
Regards,
Dave
I do also prefer the clean fast Android interface over HTC's one, I know how to make the default home screen to be the Android one but touchflo keeps running in the backgroupd eating more than 30MB RAM and wondering if it is safe to uninstall this package and probably others too. In brief, disable the sense UI. It is maybe nice but at this point is slow compared to the Android interface
yeh, i would like to remove the touchflo altogether as it keeps running in the background even though i use the default home screen. Or at least have some sort of of startup manager to stop things running at boot.
must be out soon, there is some leaked screenshots here including the widget.
http://androidguys.com/?p=6260
OK - so the Her is already running Cupcake, but with SenseUI on top, and while you can disable some parts of SenseUI from running, you can't actually get rid of them.
In that case I think I'll wait and see what happens around Donut. If HTC release an updated Hero ROM, I'll go with that, and if they don't, I can wait for a generous ROM chef to bake a nice, basic Donut ROM for the Hero. Thanks for everyone's help.
You'll need to root your phone to do it:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...if-you-wanted-to-get-rid-of-rosie-completely/
Me tooo
I would love to be able to 'downgrade' my Hero to the stock android.
At the very least, I'd love an easy way to install the stock android applications on top of the HTC ones, and hopefully uninstall the ones I don't use so as to save some application space.
is anyone going to make this rom and what is the benefit to it compared to fresh or modaco?
Cyanogen says that he will only support devices that he owns and I believe he uses the G1 and MT3G.
Coming from the G1, I can say that Cyanogen's roms, while lately lagging behind it seems (mostly because of Google's C&D), are the most stable of the custom roms I've used. They're great for the G1 because of the limited memory. He enables swap (which I don't think we really need for our phones) and apps2sd. He also uses BFS, which I suppose might help a little with the hero.
I guess it is possible for someone to port over his rom, but I don't know if that will happen.
I come from Dream as well. I have tried porting them over but I can't even get them to boot. If anyone has ideas please do tell.
I miss the vanilla android i had with my g1 mt3g. is there anyway to port the 1.6 vanilla android onto my sprint hero? besides just closing sense? sense is intergrated through out the phone i want my og vanilla android completely back on the hero.
There's currently one solution to your request. It's AOSP 2.0+ for Hero CDMA. Search for that. Sadly, the camera doesn't work. It's not 1.6, but the Nexus One verson (2.0/2.0.1). It has live wallpapers though!
Root your phone and flash the Damagecontrol ROM. If you remove the right apks in /system/apps you can use the plain ol' home rather than SenseUI. Not completely AOSP, but it's about as good as you'll get for now.
You have a fully working market and camera that way too.
We have an entire forum dedicated to ROMs and development of the CDMA (Sprint) Hero: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=519
I'd recommend you try darchstar's 2.1 AOSP ROM if you can live without camera. quietbclongs made a fantastic AOSP 1.6 ROM, too, that has just about everything you need in it.
I was just wondering what all ros we can expect, ad what all developers pla to support the shift? We have CM6 and 7, as well as MIUI and evervolv, will there be anymore? Post what you know
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No one knows what to expect because no one can predict the future here. More than likely you'll have the usual group of sense based roms that are all very similar in funtionality and look, then you'll have all of the AOSP roms that are all the same without 4G more than likely(maybe CM6 will have it once they get everything sorted out). And of course you'll have the obscure roms like MIUI, maybe a Meizu port ect.
powered by the tears of a million orphaned alpacas...
NfiniteX is coming over from the Hero this month. He tends to put some nice Sense ROM's together.
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First time rooting a phone and thus am interested and confused about the possibilty of using a new rom. What are usually the differences between them all? Do they still all allow all basic features of the phone to work? Thanks for all the help with rooting and other questions.
Aaargh! said:
First time rooting a phone and thus am interested and confused about the possibilty of using a new rom. What are usually the differences between them all? Do they still all allow all basic features of the phone to work? Thanks for all the help with rooting and other questions.
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Once they get the bugs ironed out they all should allow the basic features of the phone to work. Not sure about 4G as this is my first 4G phone, but you'll have everything else in due time. Camera, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. they'll all get working at some point. Right now those are the main issues with the roms that are currently out. Although one has no backlight on the keyboard which to me makes it unusable as I'm always using that keyboard.
Some roms are just stock Android, others have additional features that are useful and nifty. If you even give CM6 (that's already in the dev forum) a try, you'll notice a lot of features that aren't in the stock sense version.
I'm not sure what they are yet as I'm still downloading the zip. Maybe a way to add the framework support into AOSP?
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Hopefully a way to implement the Sense Camera and Dialer into AOSP. That would be really awesome, if I could use those two in AOSP, I would switch immediately.
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Hopefully a way to implement the Sense Camera and Dialer into AOSP. That would be really awesome, if I could use those two in AOSP, I would switch immediately.
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Well, the Sense stuff requires Sense, it's a choice between Sense and AOSP, really. You'd be better off de-Sensing a Sense ROM than hoping for Sense stuff on AOSP.
These have been available for almost week now
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These have been available for almost week now
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Yes, I heard it was available on day 2 after the kernel code was released. I don't think anyone has looked into using it/implementing it yet though. I knew the kernel source dropped but I did not see this until today and I'm sure there are many people who didn't know it was even posted.
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Well, the Sense stuff requires Sense, it's a choice between Sense and AOSP, really. You'd be better off de-Sensing a Sense ROM than hoping for Sense stuff on AOSP.
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I fully understand what you're saying, but these apps depend on the Sense framework, so that's why something like this gives hope.
Porting such stuff was always (almost) impossible, meaning you had to choose between the latest Android and Sense. When, on the long run, the One isn't supported anymore, you are stuck, since de-Sensing a ROM that isn't there is impossible. Maybe, and only maybe, with this framework files it is easier to port a couple of apps and include them in the latest AOSP.
For now I see it like this: HTC made these available, so they must have some reason. Might be because the Google Play Edition camera is not as good as the Sense one, which causes bad publicity, like the review on The Verge which gave a 4 for the camera. By providing these files, they maybe want to reach out to the community?
Forgive me for not knowing much on the development side of things, but if we can't find a way to port the Sense camera with this framework, what can we learn? And what would be required to see what the Sense camera requires to run on an AOSP ROM? Does this make it possible to port the Sense camera to at least the GE edition ROM? I know GE is different from AOSP, so I'm curious. The only reason I'm hesitant to stay on a stock android ROM is because of the camera.