is anyone going to make this rom and what is the benefit to it compared to fresh or modaco?
Cyanogen says that he will only support devices that he owns and I believe he uses the G1 and MT3G.
Coming from the G1, I can say that Cyanogen's roms, while lately lagging behind it seems (mostly because of Google's C&D), are the most stable of the custom roms I've used. They're great for the G1 because of the limited memory. He enables swap (which I don't think we really need for our phones) and apps2sd. He also uses BFS, which I suppose might help a little with the hero.
I guess it is possible for someone to port over his rom, but I don't know if that will happen.
I come from Dream as well. I have tried porting them over but I can't even get them to boot. If anyone has ideas please do tell.
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I'm new to Android but not new to Linux and wondering what is necessary to get these ROMs (and others) working on the CDMA Hero. What are the major differences, proprietary drivers? Kernel modules?
New Cyanogen ROM, just released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610
In other words, what's stopping us from running these ROM's right along with G1/Dream users?
I'm curious also... would love to try his roms...
Since Android 1.6 was supposed to add CDMA support I would think they should work as well as 2.0 unless the developers have taken the cdma support out of the code in their roms to shrink the size to fit on the G1's.
If I had a Hero I would be giving it a try most likely. I might try picking one up this week since Best Buy has them down to $99. I just wish it had a keyboard.
I'll try when I get home from work.
On a side note, even if this rom doesn't work, I should be able to boot into the recovery rom no matter what... riiiiiiight?
herzzreh said:
I'll try when I get home from work.
On a side note, even if this rom doesn't work, I should be able to boot into the recovery rom no matter what... riiiiiiight?
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Correct! The recovery image isn't touched by normal ROMS typically.
I'm tempted. Can this be applied right over the MoDaCo ROM?
I have tried a couple things with these. I tried flashing it outright. Wouldnt get past the initial htc boot screen. So I replaced the kernel in the boot.img of Cyans rom with ours, that still didnt work. Then I tried replacing the entire boot.img and still no boot working. I think Donut uses the 2.6.29 kernel or whatever it is. Ours is .27 so I think we would need to recompile the .29 kernel and pray our drivers work with it. Please, someone else try it too and see if they can get it working. I would love you forever if you could. If not, we will just have to wait until HTC gets us Eclair.
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Thanks for trying this, chuckhriczko and others.
I'm mainly coming at this from the pure Linux point of view: shouldn't these ROM's run anywhere (barring proprietary bits)? Shouldn't we be able to "share and share alike" between platforms, Hero/Dream/G1/whatever? If there is a chip architecture difference, fine then we need a recompiled kernel. Obviously there is also the question of firmware, but that's a given on all phones.
Otherwise, shouldn't these ROM's be fairly universal? Or if they are not, I'd like to know what makes ROM building such a unique endeavor for each phone.
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Thanks for trying this, chuckhriczko and others.
I'm mainly coming at this from the pure Linux point of view: shouldn't these ROM's run anywhere (barring proprietary bits)? Shouldn't we be able to "share and share alike" between platforms, Hero/Dream/G1/whatever? If there is a chip architecture difference, fine then we need a recompiled kernel. Obviously there is also the question of firmware, but that's a given on all phones.
Otherwise, shouldn't these ROM's be fairly universal? Or if they are not, I'd like to know what makes ROM building such a unique endeavor for each phone.
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I believe it's mostly the proprietary drivers for some of the hardware as well as needing a kernel recompile...once HTC releases the CDMA kernel, I'm sure we'll see a lot more (that or some genius will reverse engineer it...either way!)
The other thing to consider is that most of these ROMs are based on something...they take what's existing and tweak the heck out of it (I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of ROMs can trace their roots back to an official vendor image at some point).
I'm actually trying to setup a build environment and poke around but I'm starting from ground zero on the mobile platform side of things so I wouldn't hold out for me (and finding a Java 1.5 runtime is surprisingly hard these days ).
I'm noticing that we're seeing more and more ROM's pop up (primarily gutted ROMs focussed on eeking more speed as opposed to MoDaCo who went for more features).
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I believe it's mostly the proprietary drivers for some of the hardware as well as needing a kernel recompile...once HTC releases the CDMA kernel, I'm sure we'll see a lot more (that or some genius will reverse engineer it...either way!)
The other thing to consider is that most of these ROMs are based on something...they take what's existing and tweak the heck out of it (I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of ROMs can trace their roots back to an official vendor image at some point).
I'm actually trying to setup a build environment and poke around but I'm starting from ground zero on the mobile platform side of things so I wouldn't hold out for me (and finding a Java 1.5 runtime is surprisingly hard these days ).
I'm noticing that we're seeing more and more ROM's pop up (primarily gutted ROMs focussed on eeking more speed as opposed to MoDaCo who went for more features).
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What OS are you using? If your using a Debian based linux then you can get it from the Debian Lenny repositories. One word about this though, it killed my existing Java 1.6 so I had to reinstall it when I needed it. Otherwise that works.
And yeah, we are primarily doing gutted roms because that is all we know up to this point. It is very difficult to find help from those who know all about recompiling a kernel and things like that. Like I said, I couldnt get Cyanogen to even boot on my phone but obviously, it should at the very least do that. But only one dev on these forums ever helped me with my CDMA roms and that was Mlign from the Dream forums. Everyone else (understandably busy) ignored me. Im not saying anything bad about them but it's just harder for people to learn. Patience will give us what we desire though.
vendor tree for cyanogen heroc
im a noob and dont know how to build it but its here:
http://github.com/darchstar/vendor_cyanogen_heroc
Thread gravedigging much?
yes haha i want cyanogen on my hero lol
Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.
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Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.
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The phone is just over 1 month old... so, not every dev has made the switch, and Cyan Enom and Modaco kinda did about the only things that could be done right now; Make an AOSP ROM and a modded version of the stock ROM.
They got us a kernel with the missing RAM, root for our devices, and Amon got us his custom recovery. We have every feature any other hacked Android phone has, except a SenseUI ROM, and that is going to take a couple things before it can happen, namely a dump of a SenseUI ROM scaled to our screen resolution.
Long story short, I'm looking to swap my G1 for a MyTouch. I don't need the keyboard, i'd rather have a smaller phone. I found someone on craigslist interested in an even swap... but when I mentioned my phone was rooted, they asked what that meant.
So... instead of trying to teach someone what it means, i'd rather make it really simple and just put a safe rom on the phone for them to use. They are obviously happy with whatever the stock firmware would be, so anything stable should be an upgrade. I've pretty much always used beta roms (im a sense whore)... so i've never dabbled into any donut roms or whatever.
What I want is suggests for a good ROM to put on this phone. Things like A2SD and teathering are unimportant. What is important is that ALL of the phones functions work. Wifi, GPS, camera, video, BT, ect... all must be functional and the rom must be as stable as an out of the box firmware. I don't really care to go through the process of completly unrooting the phone, id rather just throw a known good donut firmware on it and call it a day. The only one I've really heard of is Super D... would this be a good choice? Is everything fully functional? Or is there maybe a more slimmed down donut rom that would be better?
As far as most stable and speed use Cyanogens 4.2.15.1
it's still 1.6 but it doesnt seem this guy really gives a ****..
Super D was the pinacle of Donut in my opinion.
But I would also recommend enomther's The Official TMO if you want a plain vanilla version of Donut.
If you want to flash a fast / stable Eclair flavor of a Rom install Super E
Here are the threads for each Rom in case you need more instructions on how to flash/customize and fully utilize each one:
Super D by Ben Buchacher
Super E by Ben Buchacher
The Official by Enomther
Most stable rom would probably be SuperD. Never had a problem with that. =)
+1. SuperD. best experience I had on my Dream.
I agree with the Super recommendation with one caveat - NOT the last SuperD. While it was mostly stable, many folks (including myself) had issues with app FCs after installs unless fix_permissions was run. I also found the battery usage to be excessive. Go with one of the older ones.
To be quite honest, so far SuperE has been just as fast and extremely stable for me. I would have no problems installing it for a daily use ROM for anyone.
try Pays Donut Rom. v1.6... i you'll see everyone on cyanogen and super builds but i personally always end up going back to Pays Black donut. everything, [and i mean everything] works. no need to mess with it unless you wanna. i did, but only a tad...
i honestly believe it puts eclair roms to shame.
lol just unroot it and save yourself the headache of noobish questions lol
Enom's the official would be the rom you are looking for.
Hey guys and girls!
Sorry for the long absence. Divorce is... sticky. Ha.
So, I was coming back considering working on HappyRom again, I've seen a few other roms have taken some pieces of what I've done, which is great - also sad though because they've given themselves some of the same old issues I was working on fixing. On the other hand though, I've seen a lot of good stuff going on, new roms, new work, NEW DEVELOPERS!
So, someone give me the lowdown - whats going on, what's hot and what should I be working on?
Well you already have a request for a 2.2 sense rom above you in this thread. If its even possible right now.
sent from my superfroyo dream
Froyo on G1, that's hot! First AOSP released source code for Froyo, then Cyanogen started to work on it and when CM6 RC1 and nighlies was released, every dev started to release their ROMs based on CM6. In short - CM6 and it's modifications are hot.
If it's about Sense ROMs - nothing interesting, maybe ZXHero and Hero2G1 are still updated, I think everyone gave up on them since they are slow and newer firmware is available.
For me very nice work is what Firerat is doing - scripts! His MTD Partition Hack eliminates need of using Haykuro, since you can freely repartition your /system, /data and /cache partitions on your G1. You can also fake your SPL which is awesome, brick-free method of installing too big for stock layout.
His all-in-one script and a2sd (included in all-one) also rocks, they enable swap, a2ext and few other really handy functions.
Erm, I don't know what else. Maybe a new radio? 2.22.23.02 was released, for some it has better signal reception, for some worse, few reports way better battery life, while others see no difference.
Hope I helped, if you want more intel please ask .
So I've noticed a lot, and I mean, a lot less stuff on the development forum and just wondering if we're pretty much at the limits of our phones.
I appreciate all the work done for our phones, but I hate seeing that we're essentially gone.
Anyways, looking for maybe future roms in the works or something different I should try out. change it up a bit.
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So I've noticed a lot, and I mean, a lot less stuff on the development forum and just wondering if we're pretty much at the limits of our phones.
I appreciate all the work done for our phones, but I hate seeing that we're essentially gone.
Anyways, looking for maybe future roms in the works or something different I should try out. change it up a bit.
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What are you running now? You have variants of gingerbread: Jaybob's, deck,cm7, omgb and omfgb 2.3.4 and 2.3.5, you have WildHeroc (2.3.3) with 2.1 sense and some 3.0 goodies, and you have iHero (2.3.2) which is some ios fun and different tweaks and themes too. Also, there have been some great kernel developments (.35) which is probably going to be crucial in pushing the Hero's limits even further.
Remember, we never got an update from htc above 2.1 update 1. We have a lot for a mdpi phone. We will never have MIUI most likely, but my phone is flying now and a lot more fun than when I 1st got it.
Maybe you can come up with something that hasn't been thought of yet?
Most of the guys developing for the hero don't even have one, or if they do, it is only to test what they are developing; they are not activated.
My $.02.
You think Meth is bad? Try being a flash whore with a Gingerbread habit and a legacy device! It ain't pretty.
Yea I've been running Pure GB, with jaybobs kernel.
I've seen the different roms and such; actually liked the iOS one that was made, but honestly performance for me is key. No lag or issues, so probably why I've stuck with 2.3.x
Overall I've just seen a lot of the same gingerbread roms, maybe a few minor tweaks here and there, but overall the same.