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POLL: Which Cupcake ROM is your favorite?

Okay, so I've seen almost a dozen threads asking for comparisons, and maybe someone will do a table at some point, but I don't think one exists now. Anyway, many of the threads on this topic have been locked because they "degenerate into name calling" and "demotivate the devs if their ROM isn't the best". While both of those outcomes are bad, I think there is value in having some quick idea of who is running what and why, and while some of us may vote one way today and another tomorrow the poll feature appears to be the only way to quickly gauge the breakdown and to catch the large moves that will occur over time as some developers slow down on release schedules and others keep moving forward.
So I have never posted a poll in all my years in forums, but hopefully this will work out. Vote for your favorite, and then tell us why. Give EVERY dev the respect they are due, and emphasize what you like about your favorite ROM and what opportunities you've identified to improve it and possibly some of the others you don't run at the moment. This philosophy is why I made the question about that which is your favorite, not which is "best", which seems to be the word that starts the arguments.
vj99

im still on 5.0.2G only because of the google calendar widget
i tried putting the google calendar onto the adp builds and it would keep force closing processes.gapps and it was breaking the whole rom
ive looked over the forum
if anyone knows how to get the google calendar widget onto the adp rom please let me know
thanks you
ps
thank you to everyone

I am currently running JesusFreke's 1.5 just to try it out; but I honestly find no difference between his build and Haykuro's 1.5Hr3 (Performance may be smoother/faster but it might be my imagination); however I have to give Haykuro his props because I was on Cupcake for a month before today's release thanks to him!

good job on this thread,
hope everyone keeps on topic and hope noobs don't make another thread about which cupcake build is better etc.
Im currently running JesusFreke 1.5 like many of us are, performance and speed no real different like fdisk81 said, both seem very stable and quick no lags what so ever.
Only thing i miss from Haykuro ADP 1.5 is the ability to install the HTC VK and use it together with the google VK along with the HTC widgets but its fine.
we'll probably be able to port them over also.
Overrall, all the builds are almost similar in looks and performance, its really basic on perference.

Still on Haykuro's 5.02G here until JesusFreke gets more locales for his ADP 1.5.

I usually don't do this but i had the Dude's and recently switched to JF's but i'm really missing the PDF reader .. anyone know how i can get it stand alone...i think they're both pretty good

There are alot of PDF readers available on the market. Many are free and quite decent.
Thedudes' is great though. I haven't updated to JF yet, but I will as soon as there are more locales available.

I keep ending up back with thedude's, no issues so far with a2sd, and the pdf reader is a must have for me.

Ersdal said:
There are alot of PDF readers available on the market. Many are free and quite decent.
Thedudes' is great though. I haven't updated to JF yet, but I will as soon as there are more locales available.
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Thanks for the advice.. i did take a look at the market and tried what was free because i didn't want to pay for a possible dissapointment to find that the one included in the dude's build is pretty flawless and quick I think i might just end up switching back to his build..i'm gonna miss the speed of JF's build but oh well i'll be back

For me it's a lack of explanation in most of the builds. JF's build has a detailed changelog togeather with the build and that's the main reason I chouse that one.

I love Haykuro's roms ..... I was on JC RC9 before Hayuro came on the scene ....
Then last night I tried JF's 1.5 and I just didn't like it, I found it much slower and laggy to a point that I had to re-boot.
Back on 1.5Hr3 now .... with Apps 2 SD and it's perfect for me.
Props to all the devs.

I'm useing jf. I never used the others although I may try one of theme at some point. Honestly I kind of liked only haveing one main rom to chose from it made themeing easyer. But maybe that will change. But just want to say thanx to all the rom sages for there epic work. Each one of you has helped in same way the the g1 better

too early to tell
The problem with these polls is that the ROMs are changing too fast for the info to be of much use. For example, I've had great luck with Haykuro's and the Dude's builds but had a problem installing Haykuro 1.5H (for reasons unknown it sent me into a boot loop) and decided to try out the JF ADP 1.50 for awhile before giving Haykuro's 1.5 another try. Since then, Dude has modified at least one of his builds, and probably more than once, so I don't know what they might have to offer now. The only ROM that I'm reasonably sure that I know what it still does is the HTC ADP 1.5, which has presumably not changed since HTC posted it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, but the modded G1 forums are embroiled in ecstatic chaos at the moment.

tried jf for two days and finally decided to go back to the old 5.0.2H build. the adp builds may be faster and stabler, but not really as pretty and usable. the camera app is adp is just shockingly useless. latin ime may be smaller, but seems way too primitive. multi-touch may be a nice thing to have, but not really that useful.

I love any ROMs from JF because He will not release it until it's really stable and usable can't wait for the official update from t-mobile

Haykuro FTMFW!

Please stay this thread up...

I'm using jf 1.5 with apps on SD. I really like the fact that most of the newer roms are using apps on sd as a standard, now (easy to set up, easy to undo).
The main reason I like JF roms is because they seem to be pretty stripped down & basic. I don't really have any use for the extra gadgets & whatnot. I want fast, stable, and rooted... I get that with jf. I haven't tried dude yet, but I might soon, as I'm hearing great things about it! I was using haykuro's 5.0.2h for a while, but went back to rc33 since (at that time) 5.0.2h had stability issues, and a lot of apps weren't designed for 1.5 yet. I really liked haykuro's build, aside from that (which was not his fault, it was a problem with the individual apps). I love the fact that we have so many options to choose from, and I wouldn't want anyone to stop hacking & developing android!
I know that things like "best" and "better" aren't rweally constructive, and I appreciate this poll because of what it accomplishes, but I must admit that it would be extremely helpful to have some sort of table/database/list of features & differences in the builds. They are all fantastic, but some features suit some better than others, and the ability to look at those features, and make an educated decision would be awesome!
Thank you to all of the devs working to make android better! You are awesome!!!
Just my 2 cents...

Haykuro's 1.5Hr3 FTW. Tried moving to the JF build and had to flash back about an hour later because it was going significantly slower than Haykuro's and a lot more apps were crashing. After flashing back to Haykuro's everything went back to being fast and working perfectly

I've been toying aroud with moving over to Haykuro's 1.5Hr3 too but for now im happy with JFs 1.50 and ill stick with it in the meantime
Either way my hats off to all the 1.5 Devs out there churning this stuff out for us

All these ROMs

Having a hard time deciding what ROM to run, they seem pretty much all the same.
Anyone care to explain the difference? Or point me in the right direction what I feel would be the best for me?

cm 3.4.6 is quite stable and fast.
but without more info on what you looking for, no one but you knows whats best for you

I'm running the cyanogen 3.4.6 and it's awesome. It's optimized to be very fast. The ROM itself overclocks, or actually just correctly clocks the G1 to 528Mhz, so no need for the widget, and has extremely snappy menus, etc. It also supports multitouch zoom in and out in the browser...very cool! Try it...this ROM will make a noticable difference in performance. My G1 now BLOWS all my friends and even my old iPhone 3g away (my 3g even has a custom ROM on it!)

I'm also having a hard time choosing a ROM. I just want something fast and stable with apps2sd.
JF 1.51 is good if you just want a standard cupcake rom with root, nothing special.
Cyanogen builds (which I'm using at the moment) are built for speed and stability, but apps2sd on ext3 gave me so many problems.
Hero builds are only really for testing. Rosie looks great but is very laggy and both the hardware LED and bluetooth are broken. I only kept it for a couple of days.
I was just about to try one of haykuro's HTC magic ports when I came across this thread

been using jf's roms and have always been happy with them.
recently went to cm 3.4.6 and have to admit i'm impressed......really zippy

I would have to say that JF's roms, although not frequently updated or loaded with all the extras, are consistently the most stable and trouble free.
Cyanogen builds are extremely fast, have lots of extras, and are constantly being updated and upgraded. I would read though the comments to pick the version that best suits you. Always having the latest build is not necessarily the best idea. You'll have to decide which version to use.
TheDude! That's what I'm currently using, and I love it. There seems to have been a short period now where new updates that address the few remaining bugs have not been fixed. Not sure what's going on in regards to this, but using TheDudesCupcake.v1.3.beta12-signed.zip is working pretty much flawlessly for me. Note: That version is NOT the latest version. You'll have to search the thread (it's on the last few pages) for a link to get that version. It seems that's the stable pick of Dude's latest.
Hero ports: Tried them briefly, removed them promptly. Not ready for primetime, IMHO.
Google ION ports: I'd go with JF over ION right now. Not much in the way of development on the ION front, so nagging problems aren't getting fixed. At least that's been my experience.
Again, I'm on Dude's right now. I'm waiting for a replacement phone to be delivered sometime this week, and I'm not exactly sure if I'll use Dude's or Cyanogen's on the new phone. Or maybe even JF's. I plan on really putting the different builds through their paces on this broken down ole phone. Then I'll decide.
I highly suggest giving this chart a good look. It will help you decide...
http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp

I'm using JAChero version 1.6b. I love the features but it is very slow and no bluetooth is a bummer. I'm waiting for a Class 6 SD card to see if that helps (class 2 now).

engagedtosmile said:
Having a hard time deciding what ROM to run, they seem pretty much all the same.
Anyone care to explain the difference? Or point me in the right direction what I feel would be the best for me?
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http://www.androidspin.com/
nuff said...

The previous post says it all. It was almost frustrating for me at first trying to decipher what was what. But a wise man once told me "...try all the different roms! Don't be afraid to experiment!". With the 1.4 recovery you can store several different roms on your sdcard, backup your current rom, wipe, flash a new rom to try it, wipe, flash a different rom to try that one, etc. If you decide that you didn't like any of those... just restore back to your previous backup. Simple as that. No pc needed. Thats when it becomes hella interesting.
Right after that the AndroidSpin ROM DB dropped. It kindof made things easier because most of the majors are laid out side by side. If my two cents matters... Cyanogen def top ranks in stability and speed. DudesCupcake and Soulife ION Remix worked liked butter for me too, the themes were a plus. Currently I'm wearing the lastest JACxROM. I'm a sucker for nice grafix. But hey thats just me, compared to alot of other cats around here, i don't know jackspit. Have fun.

I think the OP found a rom by now, look at the last post before gary.lavin brought this **** back from the dead....june 28th...someone has been going through EVERY damn page lol.

crpercodani said:
I think the OP found a rom by now, look at the last post before gary.lavin brought this **** back from the dead....june 28th...someone has been going through EVERY damn page lol.
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but it is so fun to go back 20 or so pages, find something that doesn't have a definitive answer then resurrect that mofo. i think i may (just to be a major ass) go to the last page of every sub forum and resurrect the last non locked thread lol. oh wait, that would take too much time away from doing something that matters lol. oh well.

New ROMs

Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.

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Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.
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The phone is just over 1 month old... so, not every dev has made the switch, and Cyan Enom and Modaco kinda did about the only things that could be done right now; Make an AOSP ROM and a modded version of the stock ROM.
They got us a kernel with the missing RAM, root for our devices, and Amon got us his custom recovery. We have every feature any other hacked Android phone has, except a SenseUI ROM, and that is going to take a couple things before it can happen, namely a dump of a SenseUI ROM scaled to our screen resolution.

Senseless roms really arent... are they

So, coming from a string of G1's and a Nexus, I cannot stand SenseUi. At ALL. I can live with the widgets and launcher- they are actually tolerable- what I cant accept are the keyboard, the way contacts are brought up, the lack of cut/paste in several areas, and all the frilly crud that goes along with it. I seek a TRUE vanilla rom, based on Android components not HTC. People constantly recommend using advanced launcher or one similar, but these are just launchers- they dont change the stuff back to stock that I seek. So my question is, can there ever be a REAL vanilla rom that has none of the Sense components? Is it possible to de-theme these areas in similar fashion to how the current de-sensing works, or would it require that HTC releases a vanilla version (which they never will). I guess I am asking, am I fighting a loosing battle?

You are coming from an N1 and asking this question?
Really?
Cyanogenmod ring a bell?

i was in the same boat as you. i am on cyanogen now, however there are a few issues with this port. on the nexus i didn't ever have any issues with cm6 but on the incredible you have to install another kernel after you install cm6 so that the camera will work, the camcorder just doesn't work yet, and when i have wifi on i get a reboot about once a day. i live with it because like you i hate sense ui but i wish they would have released a n1 for verizon. they did just release the source code for 2.6.32 which is froyo today, so the code shoulod be added into the nightlies of cm6 shortly.

It's been said that the latest radio fixes many (if not all) of those problems in Cyanogen on DInc. I can't attest to this being true or not, but some people were talking about it last night in the "Unrevoked - Forever" thread in the dev section.

cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys

gospeed.racer said:
cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys
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The new .32 kernel source that was just released will also allow koush to finish CM6 for the incredible. Basically now that this new kernel is out the bluetooth stack and everything else including the camcorder not working in CM6 will all work once implemented.
Even though the bluetooth works perfect in CM6 unlike normal senseui roms. /letting out BT steam

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I wonder when this will be ready?

[Q] Donut > Eclair/FroYo?

Hi there,
there is already similiar thread to this where ppl discuss about the g1 going to the phone graveyard.
I always used the newest roms with the newest features, starting at jesusfreke's roms til cm6(also nightly builds)
From time to time we all recognized that our phones are not natively built for the firmwares we were able to use thanks to thos great devs we had and have.
Anyway we could help us with ramhack, JIT, Swap, Compcache, DangerSPL and much more.
Although there were huge efforts in making it usuable it never worked totally.
For Examlple:
A new script to prevent certain apps from being shut down, FireRat's -he said - "simple" but revolutionary and effective scripts/patches along with lbcoder (who's always a bit angry and annoyed by those newbies around the forum (as well as me ))
BUT I was never completely satisfied with Eclair and FroYo on my rom. It always ran somehow sluggish. Then phone.apk was killed because deskclock was still in memory and you have to wait for 2-4 seconds till you can accept a call or whatever.
So in the end, although there were so much efforts I went back to donut and it feels so snappy after a long time....
Now I wanted to ask you all: Do you think that our phones should stick to Donut (perhaps even cupcake) and being developed in this way instead of always porting the newest stuff?
I know that especially FroYo has some really nice goodies which don't exist in Donut and I really miss them as well as some apps. (I paid for LauncherPro Plus and can't even use it right now)
But I want a phone that shoud be able to work flawless.
Perhaps we can build new Donut roms with some goodies from Eclair/FroYo
Therefore I've created this thread. I would like to know your opinions concerning this topic...

Where's my option for android 1.0?
Really!!!!! I never grew fond of auto-rotation or video recording anyway XD.

hmm. i can't remember 1.0 anymore. I know that I had it. Do you want to make a rom?
sth like back to the original roots?
I think it would be quite difficult to make one.. ^^