Warning this may apply to YOU already. If you have bought your phone from a third party vendor and not direct (and even now direct) from T-Mobile then simply download a speedtest app and check your speeds. HSDPA down should be around 1800kbs minimum, HSUPA up should be 500kbs minimum
If you are about to buy from a 3rd party retailer take heed.
I bought a SGS on 24 month contract with T-Mobile (other network providers seem to follow the same system) from buymobilephones.net. While sitting with my daughter I realised just how slow my data connection was when trying to access the net. She is also on T-Mobile purchased direct. After using Speedtest I discoverred I had 1/10th her download speed and 1/100th her upload speed. This on what appeared to be the same contract.
After contacting T-Mobile they told me that it was nothing to do with them but it was because I had a free unlimited internet bolt on and as it was supplied by a 3rd party retailer my complaint could not be escalated to a higher tier and that they would not deal with it. Effectively they said it was the retailers problem not theirs. Also they said that OFCOM and CICAS have had several complaints along the same lines but did not do anything about them. In other words "contact OFCOM or CICAS if you want but they can do nothing"
So be warned. Buy from a 3rd party and your data will be crippled and you can do nothing about it except pay an additional fee for another Unlimited internet bolt on.
Phone up and say you have an Android phone and you only have 1GB capped internet and not 3GB like they say. If they say you didn't buy it directly from T-mobile you can't have 3GB like it says in the T&Cs, say the T&Cs say nothing about capped internet.
Note most in the phone center aren't aware you're meant to get it directly from T-mobile. What they should do is switch you to Web Walk Plus then let you choose another booster instead of internet.
If this doesn't work, try a T-mobile store, they don't know whether you bought it directly from them or not.
Thanks for the suggestions but I am sure they will soon catch on to this (if they have not already) and many others will be caught out. There must be hundreds if not thousands already out there many of whom will not have a clue that they are not getting the data speeds that they believe they are paying for.
Anyone who want to see the current position on this look here:
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/2621-3rd-party-U.K.-T-Mobile-data-contracts-crippled.
Not a good read I'm afraid.
I have deleted this post to add an apology.
It turns out T-Mobile have added a speed cap on the new WnW 1GB soc. I went through ALL T 'n' C's and could only find that a 50Kb speed cap is issued to Mobile Broadband Plus Daily. So I made a few phone calls and was told that HSPDA is also capped to 1.8Mb on the WnW + soc. They also told me that the WnW soc has this cap as it is only ment for browsing and emails and is not classed as Mobile Broadband and the FUP does not permit any activity which these speeds are needed. See here
The 3Gb soc that T-Mobile gives for free is a deal closer to promote going to T-Mobile direct which as I knew was always the case. However they never once mentioned speeds of connection.
I also found out something that I never knew. The Android WnW + soc is not the same as the Mobile Broadband + soc (which used to be called wnw +) and does not permit tethering.
Anyway these are the facts and sorry for providing the wrong information.
n1kon
I still recommend phoning up acting dumb asking why you're only on 1GB and capped. Don't mention your didn't get it from them directly.
Also I read when I made a thread about this, T-mobile stores do not know where you got your phone from, so they will fix it.
Also in the T&Cs it says you can have 3GB if you order over the phone, say nothing about directly through T-mobile on the phone.
I pay £18.75 a month and I now get 600 mins, properly unlimited texts and 3GB internet, instead of 500 texts and 1GB capped internet.
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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You clearly know more than me, and I do mean that, but...
Numerous people have experienced the slow download problem including me. The only way I can reconcile what you state above and the numerous problems with the 1gb allowance and speed is the device or how it's set-up on the system.
I knew about the 1gb/3gb 3rd party problem before I purchased, so I decided only to look at deals direct from T-mobile. When I got the phone, I couldn't tell which allowance I had as I had no web 'n' walk + on the "My-T-mobile" section of the website. So I downloaded a speedtest app as other people mentioned my speed would be capped.
The app always showed a speed of around 300kps, so I called T-mobile. They had my device as a Galaxy S, but only 1gb allowance. They changed it to 3gb, and the speed went to 1.8mps immediately and I still get around that speed now.
I've still got no web 'n' walk + on the "My-T-mobile" section but the twitter team tell me it won't show but I have it. I downloaded 2gb to check and I got no messages about any allowance. Something is happening somewhere, as my speed increased as soon as my allowance went from 1gb to 3gb.
Also, this is no reflection on you, but some staff at t-mobile are not great to put it politely. I had to speak to two people to get someone who knew that android phones get 3gb not 1gb. Then I discovered that in the internet header information sent to websites, my mobile phone number was included. After speaking to technical support at t-mobile they told me that this was OK, and there was nothing they could do about it anyway. One quick post about the problem on T-mobile forums, where other people also complained and it was quickly solved. It effectived all Galaxy users as the forum didn't have my account details, but it was solved straight away despite the technical team saying they couldn't.
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Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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Sorry forgot one more thing. There was a time just before I purchased my Galaxy that the terms on T-mobile, did not say anything about only getting 3gb if purchased directly. It just said if you had a T-mobile android phone you would get 3gb.
But they were still refusing people who purchased through a third party 3gb, despite it not being mentioned in the conditions. In your example that's like McDonalds advertising a KFC deal that didn't exist, and you could quite happily complain to McDonalds.
Eventually they changed the conditions to what they say now. I think it changed around July/August time
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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You really should look into these things before you jump and make a fool of yourself.
Emails from T-Mobile.
Good morning Roger
We do understand your position, we have had other buymobilephones.net as well as customer from other online resellers approach us in the same manor as they we’re not provisioned with the same data package that a customer purchasing direct from T-Mobile would be.
It appears you have uncapped 3G speeds, which is standard across the internet on your phone’ booster, the provision of HSDPA included with ‘internet on your phone plus’ booster however, will only come as standard on Android devices purchased directly from T-Mobile or at an additional monthly cost.
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Good morning Rev Pitman,
I can see from your email conversation with David that you have contacted us about your Samsung Galaxy S experiencing slow speeds. As we have provisioned your account with the maximum 3G speed, up to 356kbs, it would appear that your phone is functioning as normal and as per the terms and conditions of your contract. If you wish to purchase the Web’n’walk plus booster for an additional monthly charge this will enable HSDPA speeds. You can purchase this within My T-Mobile.
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Hi Roger,
I cannot escalate this on for unfortunately nor do I have the power to give you the HSDPA access you are looking for. This is due to the reason that although you have a phone using the T-Mobile service, you have accepted a contract through a third party provider and are subject to the deal that you have agreed to with them. You will not find the paragraph you have copied and pasted below on Buymobilephones.net as this will not exist with them.
There have been cases like this passed to OFCOM and CISAS by customers but they have never been upheld due to this. If it is on the T-Mobile website we will uphold it if you buy from there but as you are experiencing we do not provide these features when purchased through third parties.
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The passage referred to;
“Pay monthly plans which include internet on your phone on an Android phone
You'll get internet on your phone Plus included if you join us on a pay monthly plan with an Android phone in a T-Mobile store, over the phone or via our website, t-mobile.co.uk. You'll need internet coverage, check it at t-mobile.co.uk/streetcheck. Remember that you can only use your internet on your phone Plus Booster in the UK and you can't use your phone as a modem or use Internet on your phone Plus for peer to peer file sharing, or making internet phone calls. *Internet on your phone Plus comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our internet on your customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much. As your phone is always connected to the internet, if you remove your internet on your phone Plus Booster from your account you'll automatically be charged up to £1 every day. That £1 a day rate has its own fair use policy and other legal stuff, which you can see here: t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/#fup5. “
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My Network contract is with T-Mobile, I get my bills from T-Mobile, I access my account through www.T-Mobile.com/uk but the phone was bought through a 3rd party. The only reference given by the supplier OR T-Mobile is to the download data limit amount. Nowhere does it mention capping speeds.
They will tell u anything. My account only has 1gb as im using my blackberry sim but my speeds are hsdpa. The forum team also told people they were testing froyo when samsung had not even released it. Even apple said that there signal issues were software related but gave away free cases to fix it and the guy that designed the iphone 4 no longer works for them. You will beleave what people tell you coz u know no different. Android are not the only devices to use hsdpa but are the only devices to have free 3GB data. Other devices with standard wnw still hit full hsdpa. Or so i thought.
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They admitted on the phone to me that the internet booster is around 300kbps, which is what I got. They immediately switched me, then I got over 1mbps.
OP I suggest dialing the T-mobile number (150) on your phone, and talking to someone who is unaware it does not apply if you have a third party phone, or going to the store like I said.
Someone who works for T-mobile said they don't know if you got it directly from them.
edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
They admitted on the phone to me that the internet booster is around 300kbps, which is what I got. They immediately switched me, then I got over 1mbps.
OP I suggest dialing the T-mobile number (150) on your phone, and talking to someone who is unaware it does not apply if you have a third party phone, or going to the store like I said.
Someone who works for T-mobile said they don't know if you got it directly from them.
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Thank you again for the suggestion but as you may have noticed I do have an integrity to uphold. This does not say you do not yourself just that mine has to be seen to be upheld.
edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
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Not sure what that means?
The thing is people don't have to believe what I have said blind. They can download Speedtest for themselves. Get a full HSPDA signal (H showing with full bars) and run the test. Then they can contact T-Mobile themselves and get the same answer I did when they find their speed is capped to 350kbs. I suppose as you work for them (in PR maybe or sales?) you have a vested interest.
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The thing is people don't have to believe what I have said blind. They can download Speedtest for themselves. Get a full HSPDA signal (H showing with full bars) and run the test. Then they can contact T-Mobile themselves and get the same answer I did when they find their speed is capped to 350kbs. I suppose as you work for them (in PR maybe or sales?) you have a vested interest.
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I will check on this on wednesday when im back in. The only thing i can think of right know to why some people are having issues is that there is a hidden soc that auto deploys when connected through domino. I have 2 sims 1 with 1GB (blackberry) and 1 with 3GB (sgs) and both speeds are the same when i put them in my sgs.
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edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
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I would. That sound like a security issue to me.
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I'm not sure if it actually happens to me just saw it earlier in the thread. Maybe it's because your 1GB is Web n Walk and not Internet Booster?
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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Actually, you're partly wrong there, n1kon. T=Mobile does cap the speed on anyone who has not bought their android phone direct from T-Mobile. They don't cap those who are on the 3Gb FUP. Those on the 1Gb FUP are capped at 3G speeds. It's no longer possible to buy an android phone from a reseller with the 3Gb FUP, as that is only available directly from T-Mobile. It used to be the case that if you phoned up and created a big fuss, they'd move you over to the 3Gb FUP and enable HSDPA on your line. It's not so easy to get them to do that now. However, I'd say people who didn't buy direct from T-Mobile still have room to argue it, as T-Mobile's own Terms and Conditions refer only to the FUP limit, and not to capped data transfer speeds.
I am telling you that you are wrong, even though you have worked for T-Mobile for however long. T-Mobile's technical support removed the cap on my account whilst I was on the phone to them. The guy in question then spent the next 20 minutes running speeds tests on his phone as I ran them on mine. The difference we're talking about is having HSDPA enabled on your account, or being limited to 3G. That is down to T-Mobile and not the handset.
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That should have stopped now, mine has and it's also stopped for the people who reported it to T-mobile.
Go here to test it though, if it shows your phone number, ring them:
http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
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I dont need to prove myself to you as I have tested this a know this to be FACT. I dont care if you dont believe what I have to say ether.
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I agree with those sentiments and believe you do have HSDPA speeds on a 1GB FUP tarriff. However, my personal experience is that when I got my SGS I couldn't download at more than approx 350kpbs, despite the phone showing a HSDPA connection. After a few dismal experiences where I could download anything at all when in town shopping (due to the network being overloaded) I made a to CS to explain that although I accepted the 1GB fup, there was no mention in their t&c's anywhere that they might limit the download speeds and therefore they should remove any such limits asap. Less than a minute later I could download at 2Mbps and since then I have not had any problems using my phone when out about, even in places where it was unusable previously.
I'm on Tmobile from buymobilephones.net... will have to find out if my rate is limited. What speedtester do people recommend?
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6kb/sec? thats slower than dialup!! I a cancelling my G1 order! Lets protest this!
This is from T-Mobile:
TMobile: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users
It 1GB not 10GB
it is not 1gb im pretty sure t-mobile already established this
Welcome to last month. Tmobile announced at first it would be 1GB cap, but quickly changed that. But if you want to protest over something that isnt even true, go right ahead.
ok, T-Mobile didnt take it back but rephrased the sentence.
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T-Mobile Removes 1GB 3G Data Cap for G1 Android Phone
T-Mobile's just rolled back on their 1GB usage cap on their 3G plans for upcoming G1 Android customers, instead going to a hold-up-while-we-figure-this-out route. The statement they give now states that they can reduce throughput for "a small fraction" of users who are using too much data, but exact terms and limits are still being reviewed before they're finalized. Statement after the jump.
Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.
We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G network. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers.
he jus wanted to be cool but ppl tryin to be cool never succeed
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6kb/sec? thats slower than dialup!! I a cancelling my G1 order! Lets protest this!
This is from T-Mobile:
TMobile: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users
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Please cancel your order. I'm sure there's a Motorola with your name on it somewhere.
This is so retarded...people have had the phone for 2 or 3 days and is amazing all the nonsense crap they talk.
Dude get brand new Iphone that after 2 or 3 year in the market,finally is 3G (I'm kidding)Leave us alone cause we want to enjoy our G1.
For a 1st generation release is working pretty well.
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ok, T-Mobile didnt take it back but rephrased the sentence.
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T-Mobile Removes 1GB 3G Data Cap for G1 Android Phone
T-Mobile's just rolled back on their 1GB usage cap on their 3G plans for upcoming G1 Android customers, instead going to a hold-up-while-we-figure-this-out route. The statement they give now states that they can reduce throughput for "a small fraction" of users who are using too much data, but exact terms and limits are still being reviewed before they're finalized. Statement after the jump.
Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.
We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G networky. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers.
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Yeah so if your burning throught 15GB a month dowloading torrents on your phone then they will cut you back but the average user, even power users will never have an issues. Your arguement is lame.
Guys, EASY! I am a noob in this forum!
Sorry all you G1 lovers! I did not mean to offend G1 or Andriod, I am just pissed at T-Mobile being a communist limiting access. The internet on the Wing sucks as the phone is always running out of memory all the time (besides being as slow as dial-up) so I hope it gets a bit better on the G1.
For most of us who are not tethering to download torrents or doing other outrageous things on 3g, it doesn't matter. Their current wording seems to indicate they'll chop the users off the top until the network speeds back up. I will not be using an outrageous amount of bandwidth. But I do want 1 meg a second when I get on to do something. I like the current wording, don't let others screw my network.
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Guys, EASY! I am a noob in this forum!
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okay guys, both sides, calm down. i can see both side's arguments. but yes brooklynite, your first impression with tmobile is valid. but all other carriers do this too, they just don't come out and say it out right.
windows mobile transport layer stack has a transfer limit. so practically speaking, there are lots of things you can't do on your phone or impractical, when compared to your laptop (say using a USB 3G card). hence the most likely thing you do on yoru phone is email, web, chat, which are small data, and music and video, which are bigger but they will be most likely formated for the mobile device so smaller in size compared to the desktop version. so in conclusion, it is really really hard to top that 1GB data each month. you don't need to worry about a thing if you use your phone in a regular sense
now speaking on be half of the other side, "welcome to xda dev", they all mean it, but words came out wrong
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okay guys, both sides, calm down. i can see both side's arguments. but yes brooklynite, your first impression with tmobile is valid. but all other carriers do this too, they just don't come out and say it out right.
windows mobile transport layer stack has a transfer limit. so practically speaking, there are lots of things you can't do on your phone or impractical, when compared to your laptop (say using a USB 3G card). hence the most likely thing you do on yoru phone is email, web, chat, which are small data, and music and video, which are bigger but they will be most likely formated for the mobile device so smaller in size compared to the desktop version. so in conclusion, it is really really hard to top that 1GB data each month. you don't need to worry about a thing if you use your phone in a regular sense
now speaking on be half of the other side, "welcome to xda dev", they all mean it, but words came out wrong
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The 1GB cap had to be removed because the G1 does not to mobile web browsing so video and data is not the mobile version ie, not smaller webpages or formatted for mobile video.
Statement from t-mobile site:
Real Web BrowsingThe T-Mobile G1™ was built to browse the Web. Using the touch screen, QWERTY keyboard and trackball you can access your favorite pages and browse like you were sitting at your computer.
Access in one touch
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In other words if you tend to watch youtube on your phone a lot you could reach that 1Gb limit. Not to mention if you received a lot of emails a day with attachments for work purposes, for example I receive about 10MB average a day in attachments varying from PDF files for manuals, electronic drawings etc, Images, in a month you could get 250MB there. Also you have music downloads available through amazon to your phone, averaging at 5MB per file. So 1 GB is quite easy to reach and after that with their previous statement you would be limited to 50K/s till your next cycle. That would be very frustrating.
If adobe flash starts working (I read something about a video player called Video Gadgetz which would enable that) then I'll start watching hulu from my phone when im stuck at airports at one of my many business trips. WiFi is great but you have to pay for it. So I'm hoping they leave it true unlimited but do punish any user who over does it (ie someone actually stupid enough to torrent...it's opensource..it will happen unfortunetly).
By the way..anyopne find any more info on adobe flash compatibility in browsing. I would be so psyched if I could watch hulu on my G1
And I just noticed..i have been a member for almost 2 years..use this forum for all my phone and updates and flashing..and just had my first post... unbelievable..so many forumes..hard to keep track
I never hit 1GB while I was tethering with my Wing. I doubt I have hit 1gb on my G1 as of yet. I doubt I will go above 10GB unless I thether and I surely won't be downloading things like I did on the wing.
BTW you think tmobile is bad. Read the fine print on any of verizons PocketPC or Internet cards that have EVDO... After 5GB they have the right to cancel your contract and charge you the early termination fee. How is that for "being a communist" You do realize these are businesses trying to make money. Not governments trying to keep their people alive.
I use a usb modem on my laptop with a 5GB soft cap. I've hit it once. I don't watch movies online anymore!
When using my Axim online I paid attention to website size and noticed it was 250-400 Kb per click. That adds up fast. Plus watching youtube or downloading music. 1 GB comes up pretty quick.
Although listening to streaming radio doesn't use as much bandwidth as I thought it would. 35 ish for talk radio and 60-70 kb/sec (kilobits not bytes) for music. I used about 28 Mb over a couple of hours of talk radio.
Xbox live also didn't use as much as I thought. Web browsing used more bandwidth than live.
Enough on "picking" on him.
Remember we were all where he is now.
He made a mistake.
Although, flaming him is pissing me off. So stop.
FYI:
Comcast caps their home service to their clients. So if Comcast can Cell providers will as well.
Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does in if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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Take it you ment 10gigs.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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it's 10gb not 10mb. and that's a reasonable limit before throttling. there are other threads on this as well.
Does this count for downloading 10mb apps and stuff? I have not been throttled down and thought this was only a myth...10gb is a lot to go through a month for me anyway though
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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What are you doing on your phone that you need 10GB of data?
This is not new news. It's been like this for months.
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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lol. then everyone on this forum would be throttled on their first day of their billing cycle every month....
it's 10gb. been that way for a long time.
Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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There you go!
As I am new to android/smartphones, can anyone tell me if there is any easy way to check your current data usage to see where you stand?
Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Hell your DSL is not the same as wireless. 10GB on a cellular network is a lot.
Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads....
but, basically, you are still receiving the product (unlimited web access, which is the same cost even if there isn't 3g in your area), just at a slower speed. a lot of cable and dsl companies do the same thing and their networks aren't as impacted by heavy bandwidth usage.
The dumb part is 10gig's isn't much anymore, some apps/games download 80-100 megs worth of stuff.
Not only that but last I checked the Samsung Vibrant comes with mobile TV app does it not?
So whats the point of having apps that are going to eat up data, are only good when they have 3g and we only have 10gigs or use or that?
It makes me sick every time I see ATT's dumb as use our internet commercial and don't state it's a 250 meg and 2.5 gig plans.
Tmobile isn't very far from being in the same boat because they give you a phone with mobitv and advertise the screen and playing movies and then expect you to not use it (and the data cell line to it) to stream videos/movies/shows?
Same thing for Win7, etc..
ALL these phones now are capable of pulling 100's of gigs of data in a month, yet they want us to accept a neutered phone with only 10 gigs of worthy access at descent speeds.
And no edge isn't worthy, might as well not have a data connection for anything other than checking email or getting tweets because it's way to slow.
So either go back to selling just dumb phones, or they need to expect people to be using more data.
I just don't see the point in living in this internet data based world and having all these damn cell phone companies refuse to allow us to enjoy it by not offering a true unlimited internet 3g connection to our phones.
And it's not the data pipe, or the usage thats a bull**** argument because the following companies offer unlimited internet through cell towers for laptops/home computers verizon/virgin mobile/sprint and sprint offers unlimited 3g to their 4g phones.
So no it's not about them "coping" with us the evil eaters of all the bandwith. If that was the case nobody, not one company could offer true unlimited 3g/4g but it is out there just not for the vast majority of the companies/options and you have zero options if you are GSM only like me which sucks.
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
I got a message telling me my connection was throttled as well. Problem is I haven't been using my phone. I checked my usage on the t-mobile website and it claimed my phone used a gigabyte while I was sleeping. At various points my phone seems to do a few hundred megabytes at random. This has been happening the last few days, which corresponds to the time that the gmail application stopped syncing on my phone. Is this a common problem?
Virgin Mobile/Sprint is giving unlimited 3G away for a few reasons
- Subscriber additions
- Underused EV-DO network (soon to be overloaded with unlimited usage+Evo/Epic; it's already happening) There isn't enough bandwidth to go around. Two people streaming YouTube constantly is enough to bring your overall data through put below 1Mbps where it was probably 2Mbps before.
- Subscriber additions, Sprint is hurting for them.
Very well spoken thats been my whole point to start with
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
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As a new T-Mobile (US) customer, I was told by customer service that my $30 data unlimited plan gets down/up speeds throttled once data usage exceeds 5gig within the billing cycle. This was said after I lost data service as a result of my device having been identified as a Nexus S and the account had been originally and incorrectly provisioned as a Smartphone by the agent setting up my account and SIM on the 16th.
Interesting...
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As a new T-Mobile (US) customer, I was told by customer service that my $30 data unlimited plan gets down/up speeds throttled once data usage exceeds 5gig within the billing cycle. This was said after I lost data service as a result of my device having been identified as a Nexus S and the account had been originally and incorrectly provisioned as a Smartphone by the agent setting up my account and SIM on the 16th.
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dont quite understand what your getting at, but if you did go over your 5gig soft data cap then there aint much you can do
You've used 5 gigs of since the 16th on your phone?
On the G2 forums, they've developed a way to defeat the throttle.
However it has it's own drawbacks, and may not work on our phone due to changes in Gingerbread and/or just general differences in software.
Once more, this may not work on our phones but may give interested parties/developers a place to start.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
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dont quite understand what your getting at, but if you did go over your 5gig soft data cap then there aint much you can do
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just confirming pipeline throttling is alive and active
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You've used 5 gigs of since the 16th on your phone?
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no and i can't see the current ceiling being an issue unless someone tethers to download hd movies
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On the G2 forums, they've developed a way to defeat the throttle.
However it has it's own drawbacks, and may not work on our phone due to changes in Gingerbread and/or just general differences in software.
Once more, this may not work on our phones but may give interested parties/developers a place to start.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
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thanks for the link
I got throttled on my Nexus One last month. I was tethering, but not doing torrents or movies or anything like that...I'm not sure what happened, but in one day I got like 2-3gb downloaded on my laptop...never figured it out.
I got a text message saying I was throttled in speed until the end of the billing cycle. I never really noticed the throttling. I was getting 4Mb/s on speed tests before the throttle and 2.8-3.0Mb/s after. For normal use, this isn't a big deal.
Total usage last bill was 7gb. Never used that much before, usually hover around 3-4.
I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k. any ideas? On my vibrant with a diferent sim card i get 4000k easy.
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I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k. any ideas? On my vibrant with a diferent sim card i get 4000k easy.
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Maybe they're throttling the speed, but have you changed roms recently or anything special. You can always call your provider to ask them about the speed.
From what i hear, their unlimited data is capped to 1gb?.... the is what kept me from switching lol.
From what i hear is it is indeed unlimitied data. I think the Simple Mobile $60 plan used to be for 1GB of data but recently got changed to unlimited data.
The current plan is indeed unlimited but if you are caught deviating from the terms of use (i.e tethering, downloading torrents and files from peer to peer) they will either restrict your data or disconnect it.
If you use the data for your phone it is truly unlimited.
You should check with their customer care, I work for T-Mobile and I remember reading something about how they can add a throttle feature and you have to call to have it removed. It won't drop off when the bill cycle switches.
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Maybe they're throttling the speed, but have you changed roms recently or anything special. You can always call your provider to ask them about the speed.
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I too am in the same boat, I did change ROM, and suddenly my data got very slow. I called simple mobile to check if I was getting throttled or anything, they told me I was not getting throttled.
It's puzzling me what might be the reason for this, is this because I changed a ROM?
i called them and complained about slow data speed, agent just "rebooted" my account and speed went back
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I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k.
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Dude! Same thing here and I haven't done anything!
To me it started happening like last Friday or since Thursday.
My speed is like 0.18 down.
I restored a nandroid and still same thing, I switched to another rom, and still same thing >:S
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My phone gets "Throttled down" around the 15th as I go over 5gig worth of data...and paying 39.99 for Unlimited Data...WTF?!
I am facing the same issue on Simplemobile. I do some (light weight) tethering to browse my emails etc.
Suddenly last week (Mar 15, 2011) my phone internet speed reduced drastically. Most webpages pages started timing out. Internet basically becomes unusable.
I am start of my billing cycle and have only used 200MB of data. I have never exceeded 1GB in a month.
The only reason I moved to simpleMobile was so that I could use the 'unlimited' data plan.
What to do now? I guess time to move on to other more welcoming providers ?
I was trying to see how much data i could use up before simple mobile decided to throttle down or interrupt my data services so I started watching a lot videos on youtube, movies and i even did some light tethering. So a couple days ago after I hit the 2GB mark my internet slowed down to a crawl.
I still have the H icon but the internet is very slow, I've called them 4 times; they have restarted my data services more than once but it's still slow so today they just created a ticket with their technical support team and the rep said they'd call me withing a couple of days. So let's just wait and see.
Using speedtest.net app, I'm seeing between 1.50mbps-2.70mbps SOMEtimes in the 3.00mbps range. Most I've gotten since I rooted was 3.96mbps and upload is usually always around 1.30mbps. Is this normal for 3G? I don't remember what my results were pre root, but I think I was getting at least 5mbps download. Also I updated to the latest froyo 7.15 blah blah radio, and I see no difference. Supposedly your supposed to get better service and faster 3G. That's not the case for me. Seems the same as always. I'm not using simple im using tmobile us epc.tmobile.com since it was checked on default
Same here. As soon as I hit 2 gb my speed went down. I was listening Pandora, watching YOUTUBE, now I have to wait 2-3 minutes for just for google search page to load! It is complete BS - UNLIMITED, dah?!! Let's all of us who experience problems just file BBB complains under FALSE advertising.
I flashed back to the older radio that the stock slide uses. I get better speeds on it.
This morning I received a text from Simple:
Your Simple Mobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions.
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I checked my account and saw that I had used just over 2gb worth of data. I began the plan (firs time doing unlimited, had just bought an android and killed H2o's(at the time) 50mb limit in 2 days) on the 9th of this month (18 days ago) and was absolutely thrilled at my new Android + Simple experience.
I rooted a G1 I bought and will admit I tethered. I enjoyed bragging about my Android feeding my Chumby, netbook and my girlfriends Phone and how "I *WAS* the internet". This seriously damaged my droid ego.
It was the first month having it and I did do some pretty heavy compared to what I would normally do downloading so I think I can get by on the measly 2gb of bandwidth you get but I don't want to get stuck at the slow speed I've heard mentioned before.
Am I doomed? If it's like this I'd rather go with H2o's 50 plan since it has better coverage and the picture messages are unlimited, not taken out of the 100mb bandwidth. IF it's an unwritten rule not to go over 2gb I can deal, 3 would be friggin perfect though.
Simple Mobile New 2G "unlimited" plan
Have been using Simple Mob for a while with their $60 plan, in June I went abroad, and since they do not have roaming, decided to move to the $50 plan. Now I’m back, and while away they changed the $50 plan from 100 Mb to “2G unlimited”….that is just insane. 2G might be good enough for IM, chatting, and nothing else, and doing that you will never go beyond 100MB, unless you have the patience to wait forever for pictures lo download when surfing any web site.
Now I’m stuck until my new cycle, which will start in 20 days!!! I have called to complain, and they aren’t willing to do anything. At least they should refund me $10 since I can’t use their lousy 2G, and that’s what costs to have Voice + Text, well that didn’t work either.
Arguments were: “we are trying to give our customers the best value for their money….and if you have an AT&T phone you can’t get 3G, so that’s why we created this plan”….. Well that wasn’t a creation, that was an unfair modification, IMO. Very disappointed, with their lack of willingness to help.
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Have been using Simple Mob for a while with their $60 plan, in June I went abroad, and since they do not have roaming, decided to move to the $50 plan. Now I’m back, and while away they changed the $50 plan from 100 Mb to “2G unlimited”….that is just insane. 2G might be good enough for IM, chatting, and nothing else, and doing that you will never go beyond 100MB, unless you have the patience to wait forever for pictures lo download when surfing any web site.
Now I’m stuck until my new cycle, which will start in 20 days!!! I have called to complain, and they aren’t willing to do anything. At least they should refund me $10 since I can’t use their lousy 2G, and that’s what costs to have Voice + Text, well that didn’t work either.
Arguments were: “we are trying to give our customers the best value for their money….and if you have an AT&T phone you can’t get 3G, so that’s why we created this plan”….. Well that wasn’t a creation, that was an unfair modification, IMO. Very disappointed, with their lack of willingness to help.
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What there not telling you (prob because they have no clue) is that the 2g plan falls under the "throttled" profiles on the epc apn (slotted throttling to hold you near 50kbps)
edge @ ~<300kbps is technically 2.5g tech (to simple that is)... cs and pr forget to mention that
wow what the hell???????? i have a sidekick 4g rooted and on custom rom gingerbread clone v2 and my speedtest is download: 0.12mbps upload: 0.14mbps... thats bull... everytime i try to watch youtube off wifi on my data it lags and freezes all the time.. it takes like 10mins to watch a 2 min video... is there a way to fix that????
Possible reason for slow data speeds on Simple Mobile
Seems like this is an older thread but on the same topic that has yet to have an answer or solution.
Since I've come into the same problem, I thought I would repost what I found out today on this topic.
Finally spoke to someone at Simple Mobile tech support that was able to tell me something that makes sense. At least in my case and it may be the issue for others as well.
I switched my SIM from a Verizon Motorola Droid 2 Global, that only supports EDGE / 2G connection to a Tmobile Sidekick 4G. Which is considered a Samsung Galaxy S 4G.
Well the problem is that it connects at 4G and since I am on the $40, when it does try to connect to the towers I am not authorized for 4G, so it automatically throttles me to 119..
He suggested I toggle 4G off and connect 3G and I should get full speeds... My problem now is that this phone doesn't have an option or toggle, that I know of to test.
Perhaps someone else that knows how to toggle a SK4G could give me a hint or someone could put this to the test on their, it would help the rest of us resolve this mystery.
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Simple mobile throttles after 1gb of data per billing cycle.
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then im now on AT&T tech
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The most obvious one, what is the true data limit to the "unlimited" data. How do they determine if you're using too much data, or how do they determine if you're streaming or tethering?
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it actually depends upon the network of the area,
we have tools to check how much bandwidth is allocated in the area
if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such,
we dont own a network we "rent" from other large telecom companies
but mostly its 2GB - 3GB before it was 5GB but due to complaints recieved by TMO/AT&T/Sprint/Verizon about our subscribers affecting the performance of their network we reduced it to 2GB - 3GB,
some though get away with having as much as 8-10GB per month, im not sure how that happens
and analyze thier marketing strategy its unlimited "web browsing" they never said downloading, tethering, streaming, internet just "web browsing"
one funny experience was when a customer said, "whats the use of having one of your android phones if im prohibited to download stuff from internet with my 'unlimited' plan"
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if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such
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Knowing this, any idea how much tethering one can get away with before ST takes action?
about 2GB - 3GB actually,
depends also on the bandwidth you are allocating
Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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Hm. Well in my area AT&T gets me around 3.5-4Mbps downstream and 1-2Mbps upstream. T-Mobile was much faster most of the time but unfortunately they started compressing all images through mobile data so...
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Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
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Hi, I just signed up because this is the same question I 've been searching for.
I'm now looking for a prepaid to save money since I'm just a student so cannot afford to try both straight talk and gophone. which one between these two has the fastest download speed? I have a 4G capable phone and just signed up for att's gophone service today with 1GB data, but the speed I'm getting is 1.7 to 2mb/s at best. would straight talk be faster than this speed?
I just heard the gophone offers throttle 3G, so it's around 2 or 2.5G, whereas straight talk does not throttle, so they are around 3.5G, is that true?
the only reason why I chose to try gophone because straight talk's 45 dollar plan doesn't allow international sms. but I can think of an alternative if straight talk is faster.
Thanks in advance!
ST now actually has a unlimited international voice/sms + local unlimited web browsing for $60, and ST runs on AT&T HSPA+ network so you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps (at least thats what we know but some can get 4g speeds)
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I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
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How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
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I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
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1.) if you are on our BYOP plan, you can tether all the hell you want, as long as we don't detect major bandwidth allocation affecting the carrier
2.) any feature that uses the internet inside your phone is compatible, you don't need to unlock your phone since you will have a AT&T sim under StraightTalk
3.) nope not at all,
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How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
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LOL, who told you that?, you can keep a AT&T number and still use the same device, we just give you a SIM (we need to program the SIM to your number and re-register it in the AT&T network), call ST and tell them to activate the SIM, the process takes 24hrs-2 business days, or maybe they have a new policy about phone number change, it was 2 months since i worked there, but that was the process before i left
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Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
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there was a code entry before, darn i forgot the code, it was used by us to check data/voice/SMS usage using the subscribers phone incase our tools go down. we use manual check to inform about the data changes
Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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I just got my sim card yesterday. I phoned straight talk to activate it. They can port a number over when you call them or on there website. I however did not port my number over yet because I want to test there service before canceling my att
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I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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yeah, they don't disclose that unless customer requests, because ST pays AT&T or other carriers to port the number into our database
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I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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in thier marketing its not unlimited internet its unlimited web browsing
its hard for us to detect bandwidth usage, but we can easily detect bandwidth allocation,
stupid terms and conditions are as follows
Straight Talk Unlimited talk, text and data plan Features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for the use of Wireless Synch.
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the system of ST (provided by tracfone wireless) rely on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, TMO systems, we sync data together with thier systems
and its f****** slow to sync with thier databases using our system
I know this is not about the pre paid, but I have a unlimited data non-smart phone plan and I would like to know if AT&T just does not care that I use 5+GB a month on it or if I am just lucky?
The best part is, my speeds are the same as the store phone's with the right plan's. I even have LTE were I live and when I went to a store to run some speed test I got 6.5 down and 1.5 up on H+ vs the store S2 geting about the same thing and the one x geting 8 down and 7.5up on LTE.
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well if your phone is not a smartphone under a AT&T plan we do give unlimited data with no caps, just for ordinary and classic phones,