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I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
Try another messaging app like handcent or chomp. You have choices.
No problems here, and I'm on my 2nd Android phone. Both have worked great with no problems such as yours.
Seems like more of a rant then a request for help. that being said, my family has 5 Evo's between us and we have had not one complaint with the SMS. possibly sprint service in the area? i know when i'm in smaller towns the sms seems to lag, almost like its stuck in queue somewhere before being sent to me.
good luck mate!
Use Handcent. Problem solved. The stock app is slow and sucks.
If you hate it, go back to the iPhone where you obviously came from?
Now to try to find a question to answer within all that complaining....... hmmm... oh yes, I'm having issues with the SMS coming in odd orders occasionally. I did not ever experience this with my Hero.
So what I can derive from that is that this particular release of Sense, which is NOT Android, has a bug. You need to differentiate between the OS and the VERY deep reaching Sense UI that HTC puts on top.
I'd tell you to wait for the ROM development to pick up, but something tells me you're not a tinkerer. The iPhone is a fantastic phone.. you just can't tinker as much as you can with Android. So with Android you'll have choices but you'll have bugs. It's just something I come to expect.
It's like running Linux. Sure it's trendy to hate Microsoft, but holy hell there are a lot of problems with Linux apps in design, UI, and in general stability (Note, I didn't say Linux has problems.. I said apps. Because it's the crap on top of the underlying system I have complaints with). I still love it, I just have to approach it with an attitude that it's not going to be as polished as OS X, and it's not going to be as stable either.
Welcome to Open Source and the stuff people put out with it.
After hearing everyone praise handcent I decided to give it a try myself and wow is it better. Choice is very nice
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Edited to remove ranting, I'll give handcent a shot. Hopefully it doesn't lose random messages =(.
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
pekosROB said:
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
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Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
afazel said:
Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Handcent has its own notification settings.
Jye75 said:
Handcent has its own notification settings.
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Thanks, I turned off the messaging app notification and it still notified me when I got a text.
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BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
I prefer chomp, and have had no issues. well maybe one, or two texts out of order. Like if the sender typed a "two page" text and sent, then sent a short text the short one might come in before the second half of the "two page" text.
roybotnik said:
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
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that doesn't happen with my sms app but it does happen with my google mail from time to time.
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
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I ran some tests and I can send over 3g it's only when wifi is enabled. So I did some research and found out sprint only sends MMS over their connections. The default messaging app will bypass wifi and use 3g to send mms. Handcent had patched this for the Hero.
I'd like to put in a plug for ChompSMS. I hadn't used it before, but people were saying that it automatically resizes your pictures when sending MMS. Maybe this isn't a problem on the Evo, but it was on the Hero. I will occasionally get a text out of order if someone sends me a long one that is broken up into more than 2 messages. But, I really like it's interface better than Handcent, which I have also used. As far as I know, I have never had a text go missing when using Chomp.
Android is all about choice. It's really nice to have all these choices and these are FREE (as in beer).
Ok so I'm on bonsai 1.1.3 with the new cwm and emotionless beast theme. This just started a couple days ago. When I get a new voicemail I then all of a sudden get a new text message. The text message is from 9016 and it says android ###-###-#### (the phone number that sent me the voicemail) has sent you a sprint voice message. Call 408-970-0000. Mmsn,106bee099,9fc6,v69bdosvezi//cm. This is just one example of one I got. Like I said it just started a couple days ago. Anyone ever had this and know what it is? It's really annoying when this happens. Thanks for your help!
Do you have the no bubble messaging app? Or the stock messaging app?
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I have this too after I replaced the bubble MMS app with the white one with square pictures on the left (similar to a facebook chat looking thing). Looks like the evo sms app from what i've seen.
Is that whats causing it? All I did was push the Mms.apk from viperrom to bonsai 1.13
all you have to do is blacklist the number the text message comes from. Not sure if the stock app will do it, but handcent will.
I never changed my SMS or anything. I just updated the bonsai rom. As soon as I get my voicemail notification I get those new text messages.
This is happening to me as well.
this is going to be funny...
but can someone attach the MMS.apk that is causing..i kinda actually want this to happen after i get a voicemail..
thanks
No 9016 txt with qr 2.7 b ut when I added on the 1.7.3 theme I get the txt
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Leviuqse said:
this is going to be funny...
but can someone attach the MMS.apk that is causing..i kinda actually want this to happen after i get a voicemail..
thanks
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I just have my VM setup to forward to my Google Voice number. That way I never get VM in my Sprint inbox - no fuss with visual VM either. You can use either the Google Voice app or have Google Voice send you a text.
Anybody know why its happening. Is it something in the bonsai rom cause.i havent messed with my sms and voicemail?
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that is the visual voicemail to text thing it happens on all phones with vvm to text, call tech support tell them to block the number from texting and problem solved, i have to do this a few times a day d]since i do their tech support lol
Its from the messaging app with the rom. Its using the no bubble mod with the 5mb mod. I figured out that was causing it and just found a stock messaging.apk in the theme forums. Once you switch it out, call your self a couple times and you will notice the text after voicemail goes away.
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Leviuqse said:
this is going to be funny...
but can someone attach the MMS.apk that is causing..i kinda actually want this to happen after i get a voicemail..
thanks
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Check in the theme section for the no bubble mod mms.apk. I would post it but I'm at work and don't have a computer near by.
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I'm not positive, but I think if you are getting VM notification texts saying "call 408-970-0000(or any number)to listen to your VM messages, its because your voice mail isn't provisioned properly. The network doesn't realize your phone has visual voice mail, so its sending you a text to let you know to call to hear them. This happened to me a few times on my HTC hero when flashing cyanogen mod, and also a few times on my epic when i had a bad flash, or i had a poor signal on my first boot.
You should be receiving a message with a sort of code in it, something like {android}/noreply/notificationon(i don't remember the exact syntacs or message, but it will look something like that) it was caused by your MMS.apk.
When i had the provisioning issue, this is what i did to resolve it:
1. Dialed *38(resets VM to carrier in case it as setup to go to google voice, or other third party VM).
2. Open the VVM app
3. Hit menu
4. press Compose
5. in the "to" field put "[email protected]"
6. press record
7. as soon as the "send" button ungrays and ill allow you to, press it.
If this doesn't work you can try making a nandroid backup and odining to a stock rom, then re-rooting and restoring your nandroid.
Best of luck
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all you have to do is blacklist the number the text message comes from. Not sure if the stock app will do it, but handcent will.
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I have this same issue, but when I blacklist it with Handcent, it still gives me a notification that I have an unread text message even though it doesn't show up on my conversation list...Looks like I might just have to go back to stock and re-root unfortunately...
PS - Also tried the above and haven't seen any changes, still get the stupid 9016 text that I have an unread voicemail...
Well I did the email to activate and got a txt back. Still get the 9016...odd didn't happed on qr 2.67 but mold mms is 1.73 theme did....
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I'm pretty sure this is google voicemail interfering with your regular voice mail. You need to go into gvoice and deactivate the number from going to google, and it will stop.
I'm using viper rom and get the same text message so it is not rom specific. I have tried the messaging.apk change and still get the messages. Does not appear anything is working so far to stop the texts
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Hey mikel719 or anyone who has the stock Froyo Messaging app, can you please post it here so we can fix the issue if we dont want to download handcent to blacklist or download redlist to hide the message?
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Hey mikel719 or anyone who has the stock Froyo Messaging app, can you please post it here so we can fix the issue if we dont want to download handcent to blacklist or download redlist to hide the message?
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I'm not at a computer at the moment but I can email it to someone, or I can post it when I get off work.
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I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
You forgot to disable notifications from the stock app settings which I believe are connected to but not accessible from the stock settings.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
Same issue I had. I went into the stock messaging app, under menu, settings, notifications, unchecked the box. That worked for me.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
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Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
kenvan19 said:
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
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I wasnt trying to be picky there! Please dont get me wrong! I meant first post which I did state about trying what you suggested from my first post a quote: I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
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On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
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You mean when you enable notifications you get a 3rd popup that is the smiley face in a chat bubble? What happens when you open the unknown notification? What app opens? And if its the stock messaging app, try clearing its defaults.
That is correct about the smiley face chat bubble. When the notification pops up it will open up Handcent. I have tried clearing the defaults as well with no joy.
i had this problem when i was using Handcent
so i removed it
now i'm using GO SMS, same as handcent but better, and it does not have the problem that handcent was having
i only get 1 sms/mms alert instead of 2 when handcent is installed
twistywizard said:
I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
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OK I will give that one a bash then see if it solves it.
No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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which ROM are you using?
maybe try another ROM?
Using Modaco r10. Might try another or a fresh install.
Brand new Nexus S 4g on Sprint.
I have an N1 and as of today started getting random garbled texts like below.
Phone was bought and system update installed on Friday afternoon.
No "unusual" apps installed other than Handcent+emoji , and Pulse.
Tried installing GoogleVoice for it to work "the classic" way as described on these forums could that be causing an issue ?
The person with the Nexus S says they dont see those messages in there outgoing. Only recipients.
Yep definitely weird, I texted my sister yesterday using handcent and she replied saying it was all numbers and symbols, on my end it looked fine. I wonder if it was a handcent thing.
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Nope not a Handcent thing. I texted my boss and the next day he showed me it and said, "Dude. What the f*** is this ****...?" Hahahaha, I was using the stock messaging application. Hasn't done it since.
So I just found the problem... It's only if the text is more than 160 characters long. I just tested it...
I same thing happened to me using the evo.
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info[]box1 said:
I same thing happened to me using the evo.
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Never had that problem when I use to send texts containing over 160 on my EVO
This happened to me yesterday with a message over 160. Freaking weird. Is this a ginger bread "feature"?
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From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
I had this problem when i was using Sprint Google Voice integration.
Once i disabled that integration, this problem (and many others) stopped.
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From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
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That's probably it. I had just flashed a Rom and forgot to check that. Thanks
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It's not so much a problem but a limitation of CDMA. GSM networks will automatically split messages up larger than 160 characters, CDMA can't do so effectively. I ran into the same problem when I installed handcent sms, since by default the feature to break apart messages is deactivated. If you're using the stock sms app then you won't have this problem since it limits any text being sent to 160 characters. If you want to send more you have to create a new message.
That limitation is a problem
I am not sure if it´s a limitation. I had a lot of those, not sure if any sms of mine reached more than 160 chars.
After googling it a lot, someone reported it as a bug in gingerbread, and it happens if you use accentuation.
I followed this, and never had any friend complaining of garbled SMS again.
Interesting. I had them uninstall handcent and it stopped. But they also said theyve only been sending short messages.
Will try the character fix to see if it works.
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From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
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I was having this issue and this resolved it for me.
Just happened to me. I enabled split SMS and we'll see what my friends say.
I did not have this problem with my EVO 4G on Sprint, (using the stock sms or Go SMS Pro) but I am having it with my Nexus S using Go SMS Pro (stock sms app won't let me send more than 160 chars).
I can confirm that having handcent split the message fixes this issue. I also have the .apk of the stock messaging app with similar settings to split the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202223
Happend to me today
So I texted my brother earlier this morning and he said that it happened, but the weird thing is that afterwards my data stopped working.
So since I couldn't get it to work no matter what I did, I decided to wipe and reflashed my phone but it still doesn't work. Now i'm stuck with a phone that doesn't have any contacts, and no working data but i get texts fine, although I'm not sure if they send fine since i haven't tried. D:
So has anyone had this happen to them, if so do you have any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
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I forgot to say that i have a Nexus S 4g with sprint.
Running latest nightly cm7 (5). With netarchy's latest kernel. Using handcent for text.
When sending text under 160 everything works great. Once going over causing a split, the recipients of my text gets gibberish. Scrambled letter and symbols. Is anyone else getting this? Both my phone and my brother's phone do the same thing, so I know you should get the same results if you use the same setup as me. My question is why and what can we do to fix it?
I have read about this before but not actually experienced it yet (no long texts). I am running CM7 on my ns4g. I heard the simple solution was to go into your sms settings and simply select to have the app split up your texts at 160 characters.
Oh - sorry - you are using handcent. forgot. I just use cm7 sms app. hmmm. not sure. handcent doesn't have the same option?
Handcent has those options. They don't do anything. I ran cm7 on my evo with handcent, never had this problem before. So I'm thinking its a phone specific problem.
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Running latest nightly cm7 (5). With netarchy's latest kernel. Using handcent for text.
When sending text under 160 everything works great. Once going over causing a split, the recipients of my text gets gibberish. Scrambled letter and symbols. Is anyone else getting this? Both my phone and my brother's phone do the same thing, so I know you should get the same results if you use the same setup as me. My question is why and what can we do to fix it?
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Its a CDMA issue. Have your texts split up into multiple txts at the 160 character count. There is even a setting in Handcent that says something about compatibly with CDMA
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Its a CDMA issue. Have your texts split up into multiple txts at the 160 character count. There is even a setting in Handcent that says something about compatibly with CDMA
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i have used both settings in handcent for splitting by character and by word at the 160 limit. neither of them seem to work. the recipient receives two texts but it's all gibberish. I never once had this problem on my evo which is cdma also. both phones ran CM and handcent. I've gone through each and every setting in handcent and CM to double check I wasn't missing something. regardless it should work without me changing a setting to allow long texts. It is something that needs to be fixed.
What i'm thinking the problem is, is a setting that was forgotten to change from the gsm phones in the sms settings.
I just installed Miui, using the stock sms app from that it still scrambles the texts over 160. It says it's sending two texts, but something is horribly wrong on the receiving end of the text. So i'm pretty sure it's not a problem with handcent settings. It's the fact that these roms are ported from the GSM NS and we're missing something yet.
I'm going to install a stock image after work today and confirm that it works on stock roms.
I'm very shocked no one else has complained about this. I have two NS4G phones both of which have the same symptoms.
Just confirmed that 160+ sms messages send fine from a stock os on the ns4g. using stock messaging or handcent.
Using CM or Miui is causing gibberish to come through. There seems to be a problem using non stock based roms at the moment.
That is interesting. I had the problem, but I resent the same exact text except I broke it into 2 smaller sms and it was received fine. I can't remember what rom that was though, because I've been through so many and havent heard of the issue since I setup the automatic split sms in handcent.