Changing SD-Card without voiding your Guarantee:
Prerequisites:
Hairdryer
Needle
Micro SD Card
Screwdriver: T5x50
Screwdriver: 0x50
pincers
1.) Switch your phone off, and remove your battery/SIM Card
2.) warm (up) the VOID Sticker using your Hairdryer (be careful: To much heat will melt your plastic!) A couple of seconds is enough. Use your needle to carefully remove your sticker. (Be careful not to damage it). Put it then somewhere save. You won't need it 'til you wanna send in your phone to repair.
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3.) Remove the 5 Screws
4.) Open the phone using your thumb fingernail/Credit Card:
5.) Gently pull off the Silver Layer using your fingernail/pincers. Again: Use hairdryer to warm up the glue, so it will get off more easily
6.) Remove the Silver Cover from the Micro SD Card Slot, and exchange the Card
7.) Reassemble your phone, (Be careful, the Volume Rocker might pop out), beginning at the Bottom.
8.) Insert SIM Card and Battery and start your phone. After booting up your memory will be like 15MB - don't be scared - that's normal - Reset your phone (Settings - System - about - Reset your phone)
9.) If everything went fine, you should get a similar screen like shown below:
Working SD-Cards for Trophy:
Manufacturer | Size | Class | Part Number | Working | Comment | Minium Transfer Rate | Maxium Transfer Rate | Average Transfer Rate | Access Time
DANE | 16 GB | 2 | N/A | No | very slow and not recognized
Kingmax | 16 GB | 10 | N/A | No | not working at all, loop reboot
Sandisk | 8 GB | 4 | N/A | Yes | Original | 2,9 MB/sec | 3.4 MB/sec | 3.1 MB/sec | 1.5ms
Sandisk | 16 GB | 2 | N/A |Yes | Nothing remarkably changed
Sandisk | 16 GB | 4 | SDSDQM-016G-B35 | Yes | | 3,8 MB/sec | 3.9 MB/sec | 3.8 MB/sec | 1.7ms
Sandisk | 16 GB | 4 | SDSDQ-016G-P36M | Yes |
Sandisk | 32 GB | 2 | SDSDQ-032G-E11M | Yes | seems faster than original one
Sandisk | 32 GB | 2 | SDSDQ-032G-P36M | Yes | seems faster than original one
Sandisk | 32 GB | 4 | N/A | Yes | faster than original one
Team | 16 GB | 6 | N/A | No | very slow and not recognized
Toshiba | 16 GB | 2 | N/A |Yes | seems faster than original one
I know in Holland, even though the stickers says it would void your guarantee if broken, that's actually against the law, and you are allowed to open/disassemble everything you buy. You only void the guarantee if you would break it, but that's obvious
Seven_PRX said:
I know in Holland, even though the stickers says it would void your guarantee if broken, that's actually against the law, and you are allowed to open/disassemble everything you buy. You only void the guarantee if you would break it, but that's obvious
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LOL, i've broken the sticker when trying to remove the sticker without damaging it. Now my sticker is broken without even touching the screws (I hope you are right about the guarantee thing)
Have to buy a special screwdriver to open it. Will post if I can find anything.
Any luck???
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Have to buy a special screwdriver to open it. Will post if I can find anything.
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Sounds great. (Not that you broke your sticker, but that you're trying to open the phone ) Maybe there is some way to improve the storage of the Trophy. Looking forward to that.
Maybe you could upload some pictures too?
Nope, nada.... no MicroSD card slot. Here's a picture:
I couldn't peel of the silver layer, but it is obvious that there's nowhere a slot underneath.
More (highres) pictures here:
http://img255.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=14312167.jpg
I think the removable memory is only for models that have more memory variants, like the HD7
there must be a sd card slot because try to get into the bootloader and you will see
sd sandisk 7580mb class 0
on the rainbow screen
theviruz said:
there must be a sd card slot because try to get into the bootloader and you will see
sd sandisk 7580mb class 0
on the rainbow screen
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Interesting, class 0... that would be a legacy card. With that in mind read this article: http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-on-wp7-storage-most-microsd-cards-are-of-poor-quality
Maybe there's a card under the silver layer. Problem is, I could peel the layer off but there's no way to get it on. So I decided not to do so.
The block with the silver layer has nowhere a opening on the side for a removable card.
I think so too that there must be a Micro SD Card hidden somewhere on the phone. In fact you can order a card for the Trophy (HD7 as well) on the htc website.
Maybe we can find someone who dares to peel off the silver layer
I would do it myself, but first i have to find a way where to get these "VOID" stickers, so that I can remove the sticker and after finishing put a new one on the screw.
DominikZ said:
I think so too that there must be a Micro SD Card hidden somewhere on the phone. In fact you can order a card for the Trophy (HD7 as well) on the htc website.
Maybe we can find someone who dares to peel off the silver layer
I would do it myself, but first i have to find a way where to get these "VOID" stickers, so that I can remove the sticker and after finishing put a new one on the screw.
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Maybe I have no problem to peel off the layer if I could only see a possible space on the side of the block with the silver layer to slide in a card. All spaces where that is possible and where there could be a slot hidden are blocked by electronic parts. So if there's a card somewhere, I think it's really problematic to change it.
For me that's pretty much it. I don't need extra memory thát bad. And I think that in the future extra memory is disclosed by using extra storage space on internet servers. We now do already have an extra 5Gb with a zune account.
The chip could be soldered on to the board. Or maybe WP7 just assumes all memory as being an SD Card? That would explain the Class 0 reporting, unrecognised card class.
It would be a good idea to get a Service Manual. Then it would be certain whether there is a Micro SD Card or not.
What is this that silver looking box ?
it has the size of a micro sd card , maybe it is a micro sd card with a box soldered over it .
ceesheim said:
What is this that silver looking box ?
it has the size of a micro sd card , maybe it is a micro sd card with a box soldered over it .
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That could very well be the case. It's a solid metal box.
BTW opening the Trophy is really easy. One only needs a TX6 screwdriver and a small x screwdriver. When the screws are out, don't try to take out the yellow thing, but instead open the Trophy on the side. The metal front case with the screen has to be seperated from the rubber coated back plate.
ceesheim said:
What is this that silver looking box ?
it has the size of a micro sd card , maybe it is a micro sd card with a box soldered over it .
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Ya I wondered about that too. Anyone wanna try what's under there ?
Second possibility is that there is in fact no Micro SD on the Board like it is on Omnia 7 .
[Source: wmpoweruser.com].
This would mean that there is a SanDisc Storage under the silver layer.
I hope that you're right with your silver box theory..
Someone boot the Omnia 7 into the bootloader and see if it also reports a SD card like the Trophy does.
Also, that silver box is where the speaker is. Maybe it is the speaker?
Dont tell me that you didnt see big chip with sandisk label... it is soldered
yeswecan
has anyone gone further to try and locate the SD card slot if it exists or not?
elektrownik said:
Dont tell me that you didnt see big chip with sandisk label... it is soldered
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I think what he wanted to say was if Trophy shows SD in Bootloader and Samsung does so too, that could indicate that Trophy might have a integrated Storage too.
Related
Due to the amount of cards dieing. I want to start a database of dead cards to see if there are any patterns. I would like to have: Brand, Capacity, and where it was made. (if you can think of any other important info, I'll add that as well)
Just post the info and I will keep the original post up to date with a list of failed cards.
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Huh? I've been using the same 8GB MicroSD card, SanDisk, for a few months now. Always works the way it should, and I've reformatted almost as many times as I have hard reset, which is a bunch.
If you read through the android thread, there are a bunch of people who have had cards quit working. I'm wanting to see if it's a problem with cheap cards or if it is something else. I'm willing to bet it's just cheap cards that do not perform write leveling.
Sandisk 4GB, speed rating 2.
Transcend 2GB
never failed yet .. still running happy, even with dzo's Android port
Transcend 4GB SDHC assembled in Taiwan.
2 months of normal use, and now corrupt. Returning for a different card
bugzy said:
Transcend 2GB
never failed yet .. still running happy, even with dzo's Android port
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This thread is clearly for cards that DO NOT work. Who's to say your card fails 4 months from now.
thirteenthcell said:
Transcend 4GB SDHC assembled in Taiwan.
2 months of normal use, and now corrupt. Returning for a different card
This thread is clearly for cards that DO NOT work. Who's to say your card fails 4 months from now.
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I think its also important to know cards that are working as well.
Mine's probably not a SDHC, which maybe why it seems to work so far.
Ive been using Android for 3-4 months without issue on my SD card
cheap manufacturing
That's my conclusion well partly, I've been trough many sd cards and brands mine's and my friend's (they always come to me when something goes wrong)
after using many cards from the same manufacturer I had one or the other fail for no apparent reason,always make sure never to pull a card out while it's doing some operation, never write the card to full capacity either,there's nothing said on that , but just to be safe,still they keep failing. one thing I've notice is that this is happening more frequently lately more often specially on the vouge phone with wm6,and of course the bigger capacity cards.
I have to agree on the poor manufactoring. I have seen a huge increase in dead flash memory products recently. (3 or 4 friends with flash drives and one with an sd card)
I have noticed a difference in where they are made though. The Japanese cards seem to be of higher quality. That's one of the reason I wanted to keep up with where they are made. None of the flash drives i've seen dead have been made in japan.
The poor quality will eventually catch up with them.
ssdarius said:
...always make sure never to pull a card out while it's doing some operation...
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I think you're 100% on the money. It's hard to reproduce card corruption as it seems very random as far as the damage done, and frequency.
Most PDA users (myself included) load up an SD card with 3rd party software as apposed to internal storage which is somewhat limited in size. This leaves plenty of room for Program Memory and less hangups.
It only makes sense that piling software on the SD card will cause an increase in simultaneous reading / writing over a period of time. Removing an SD card while the PDA is running / or even idling could easily cause a corrupted card, depending on whether a piece of software was randomly accessing data on that card at the moment of removal.
Now what can be done to eliminate this problem?
We need to develop a simple "switch" to isolate the SD slot from communication while removing or swapping a card. Microsoft realized this issue with SD cards and developed a "Safely Remove Hardware" wizard from your desktop PC. I've never had problems with SD cards / flash sticks once I religiously used this wizard to and from my PC.
Could someone development savvy write this code for PDA's, since Microsoft didn't feel the need to incorporate this functionality onto their Windows Mobile environments. I wouldn't know where to start lol.
Anyone agree?
Has anyone taken their Omnnia 7 apart yet to see if you can replace the microSD card with a higher capacity one?
It's been done on the HD7 so we need a brave volunteer to try the same on the Omnia.
This is really intriguing to me... if anyone does it please take lots of pics!
You're on the OMNIA 7 has a MicroSD slot?
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You're on the OMNIA 7 has a MicroSD slot?
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No, not a normal slot.
In some mobile phones with windows 7, the MicroSD is hidden inside.
You cannot access without unscrewing, and it voids the warranty.
The phone must be taken apart into pieces to find the MicroSD, it is not one you just change for different music all the time!
We need a person to volunteer to take apart their phone!
Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices.-Microsoft
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exFAT disk format maybe?
I have an Omnia 7 testing device and I am willing to disassemble it. But I really don't know where to start with this. Seems that the phone can be disassembled only with special tools that I don't have...
Omnia must have a slot like the HD7?
Got this from a link (I am a new user: so can't post links yet: here's a goo.gl/Vi0e)
While the Omnia 7 has an microSD slot, it isn’t your run of the mill one. The microSD card that comes with the device is essentially locked to the device. If you remove the card, it will make the phone inoperable. I did read a tip that this may change later on, or if you swap cards and reformat then you have to suffer with losing your data, but that hasn’t been officially verified yet. Also someone will probably figure out a hack or way to copy the formatting scheme over to a new card to avoid losing your data, so don’t fret too much about this.
Just got delivery of Samsung Omnia 7.
I'm trying to open it up but I can only get access to 1 screw..the other ones are partially or fully obstructed!
@karthikraman - there is no card locking going on and upgrading memory is fully supported by MS. It just has its own special procedure and consequences. Too many tech writers have been reporting this as if it's some kind of hardware hack special to the HD7. Nonsense, as I said it's supported and designed to work that way.
Manufacturers have decided to hide the cards inside. Maybe they thought that was safer so that people didn’t swap in new cards and complain their phones had stopped working or, if they did the hard reset, that they had lost all their data.
Anyway, all we need to know is whether we can get to the SD card in the Omnia 7 or not. If we can the upgrade ought to work.
@lvoky - Can you post pictures or describe what tools you need?
digime said:
@lvoky - Can you post pictures or describe what tools you need?
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Well, I can post some pictures later, but generally, as hboos mentioned, the screwes under the battery cover are partially obstructed with the rest of the phones casing... Which means that before unscrewing these, the casing has to be somehow removed. There are no other screws on the phones body, so I guess the plastic top and bottom part of the phone has to be "unclicked" somehow. Or maybe we have to begin from the display, like with iPhone 3G for example...
OK, I have got it apart, but haven't found the SD card yet.
Where the slider is for the USB charger, use a small screwdriver & gently prise the plasic up (with the slider open), gently work your way around to get the complete cover off.
There you will find three screws, once these are rmoved the end will come off, after which you can slide the metal case off. You can then access all the screws.
HTH, Vince
VinceRothwell said:
OK, I have got it apart, but haven't found the SD card yet.
Where the slider is for the USB charger, use a small screwdriver & gently prise the plasic up (with the slider open), gently work your way around to get the complete cover off.
There you will find three screws, once these are rmoved the end will come off, after which you can slide the metal case off. You can then access all the screws.
HTH, Vince
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take photos and videos if you can would love to get a 32gb card in my omnia
Thanks Vince!
Taking it apart just now!
Just for clarity...to take the first bit off, open the usb slider and put a screw driver in to take off the plastic from the END of the phone... then everything is easy from there.
is it possible for the microsd card to be underneath the sim card slot or inside the area with the antennae?
Update:
I've pretty much dismantled the whole thing...just need to get the screen off and I can't seem to locate teh sd card.....it might be underneath the samsung sticker?
I have two photos but don\t knoiw hwo to put them up...they are 1.5 mb in size
Right guys,
After faffing around with this...the microSD card must be located just beneath the screen..unfortunately, I am unable to check for sure because the board has connections glued on to the sides for the power, camera and volume buttons..
what a downer
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HTC, and maybe Motorola, is known to use microSD card for internal storage in various phones. Samsung, on the other hand, doesn't do that normally. All the Galaxy S phones have flash chips mounted directly on the circuit board. Samsung makes those flash chips, so it makes no sense for Samsung to use someone else's microSD cards.
Nice try and thanks for giving it a go.
Here's more info on the official position from MS:
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/10/29/microsoft-speaks-on-micro-sd-and-windows-phone-storage-expansion/
I said on an HD7 thread that I think they are just being really careful and making sure they minimise potential problems - they don't need the launch to collapse with any Apple-antenna type bad press.
I think I've decided to go for an HD7 and will probably upgrade the memory once I've used up the 16GB.
there is no card in omnia7
digime said:
Has anyone taken their Omnnia 7 apart yet to see if you can replace the microSD card with a higher capacity one?
It's been done on the HD7 so we need a brave volunteer to try the same on the Omnia.
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here's proof
Pity about that. I thought it would be upgradable but I was wrong
root beer said:
Pity about that. I thought it would be upgradable but I was wrong
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Well on the bright side at least we wont have the memory failures prominent in SD-cards Charlie Kindel spoke about.
Hey guys, so I know that there was a lot of false speculation about the possibility of altering the internal storage capacity of the G.
That was false, as the internal storage is actually an eMMC chip.
However, I bought a XT1032 model, with 16GB of internal storage, and, being a ruthlessly enthusiastic electronic engineer, I decided to take the matter of SD card support into my own hands.
I noticed, shortly after getting it, that my phone, being the single SIM variant, has an unused slot in the side, and, upon closer inspection, no important components around that area.
So it began; turning the unused SIM slot into a microSD slot.
I first went to PC World, and bought this tiny USB card reader:
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I then stripped away all of the plastic, and all of the metal USB connector. I was left with this:
I then took the microSD slot from an old phone:
The above image shows two contacts in the top right corner which are pressed closed only when the microSD is present.
This is crucial to the operation of this mod, because it enables me to distinguish whether the SD is present or not (more on this later).
I then glued the card holder to the reader circuit board:
I used pliers and a scalpel to remove the unused SIM holder, and scrape an indent in the phone's pcb, to give more space to the reader circuit:
Finally, I soldered (VERY carefully) the relevant connections to the inside of the phone's connector, used a scalpel to cut away any obstructive plastic, and cut a copper sheet to fit over the SoC, RAM, eMMC, etc.:
And then put it all back together. I powered the phone up, and used a charger and a 2GB microSD to test everything, and hey presto, IT WORKS!
This mod takes advantage of the USB OTG function of the Moto G. My modifications, while extensive, are essentially an "Internal, Switch-able, OTG microSD Card Reader".
This is where the card holder contacts I mentioned earlier become important. The phone uses pin 4 of the USB connector to detect what is connected. A certain value of resistance between pin 4 and GND tell the phone what a connected device is. For charging the phone, or connecting it to a computer, pin 4 needs to be dealt with by the computer or charger. We cannot interfere with pin 4 in these two situations.
If we kept pin 4 low, the phone would try to constantly power the SD card reader, and so would not accept a charge, and would soon run out of battery. The solution is to only enable OTG when the microSD is present. This means that for charging, I take the SD out, the switch on the connector opens, letting pin 4 be controlled by the charger/computer. The phone can charge up, and when it's finished, I put the SD card back in, and OTG takes over again.
Neat huh?
Many thanks, and I hope you enjoyed reading!
to charge the device we could use a very little switch that short pin 4 to 5 (but needs to remember to uninstall SD in software first)
and this is the reason why i love xda.
neat stuff... too bad i have dual sim
abhifx said:
and this is the reason why i love xda.
neat stuff... too bad i have dual sim
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There's nothing too bad
I'd u are a single sim user what you can do is use the other unused sim port for sd card
Correct me if I am wrong
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rr46000 said:
There's nothing too bad
I'd u are a single sim user what you can do is use the other unused sim port for sd card
Correct me if I am wrong
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i am using both the sims... so too bad.
on the other hand... people have been using universal qi charger with moto g... a similar setup with card in battery back would result in same functionality and a bit less geeky
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WORK IN PROGRESS!! - I WILL REMOVE THIS FIRST LINE WHEN THE PROJECT IS FINISHED (IN A COUPLE OF DAYS)!
Hey guys, so I know that there was a lot of false speculation about the possibility of altering the internal storage capacity of the G.
That was false, as the internal storage is actually an eMMC chip.
However, I bought a XT1032 model, with 16GB of internal storage, and, being a ruthlessly enthusiastic electronic engineer, I decided to take the matter of SD card support into my own hands.
I noticed, shortly after getting it, that my phone, being the single SIM variant, has an unused slot in the side, and, upon closer inspection, no important components around that area.
So it began; turning the unused SIM slot into a microSD slot.
I first went to PC World, and bought this tiny USB card reader:
I then stripped away all of the plastic, and all of the metal USB connector. I was left with this:
I then took the microSD slot from an old phone:
The above image shows two contacts in the top right corner which are pressed closed only when the microSD is present.
This is crucial to the operation of this mod, because it enables me to distinguish whether the SD is present or not (more on this later).
This mod takes advantage of the USB OTG function of the Moto G. My modifications, while extensive, are essentially an "Internal, Switch-able, OTG microSD Card Reader".
This is where the card holder contacts I mentioned earlier become important. The phone uses pin 4 of the USB connector to detect what is connected. A certain value of resistance between pin 4 and GND tell the phone what a connected device is. For charging the phone, or connecting it to a computer, pin 4 needs to be dealt with by the computer or charger. We cannot interfere with pin 4 in these two situations.
If we kept pin 4 low, the phone would try to constantly power the SD card reader, and so would not accept a charge, and would soon run out of battery. The solution is to only enable OTG when the microSD is present. This means that for charging, I take the SD out, the switch on the connector opens, letting pin 4 be controlled by the charger/computer. The phone can charge up, and when it's finished, I put the SD card back in, and OTG takes over again.
Neat huh?
I have made a video demonstration:
VIDEO WILL BE INSERTED HERE SHORTLY.
P.S: I also took the opportunity to add some copper sheet over the SoC and RAM, etc.. for better thermal management:
Many thanks, and I hope you enjoyed reading!
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I made these project, but i use external connector for change the state otg to state charge battery, good project and good idea that "presence sd switch"
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=764854
vientodearena said:
I made these project, but i use external connector for change the state otg to state charge battery, good project and good idea that "presence sd switch"
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=764854
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Thanks! I honestly hadn't seen your post, but my apologies for lack of originality.
I presume you soldered the microUSB connector internally then? That's what I'm going to do - very carefully!
Thanks to everyone else for their nice comments. More pictures of the finished project, and hopefully a video, will be up soon.
vientodearena said:
I made these project, but i use external connector for change the state otg to state charge battery, good project and good idea that "presence sd switch"
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=764854
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Guys, both project are really cool!!
@vientodearena: could you please translate it ?
fabus said:
Guys, both project are really cool!!
@vientodearena: could you please translate it ?
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+1
A quick question, does anyone know why USB OTG prevents deep sleep (More to the point, how I could disable this)?
It means that the battery usage when the screen is on is pretty much the same as usual, but when the screen is off, the battery usage is massive, as deep sleep isn't occurring.
callidus_ex_de_latebros said:
A quick question, does anyone know why USB OTG prevents deep sleep (More to the point, how I could disable this)?
It means that the battery usage when the screen is on is pretty much the same as usual, but when the screen is off, the battery usage is massive, as deep sleep isn't occurring.
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Probably this is related to supplying power by phone to otg device. It would be really good improvement in next kernels to stop giving power to otg device when it is idle.
Currently, when u r copying some files, playing music from e.g. otg drive, when phone would go into deep sleep, transfer would be stopped because phone goes into deep sleep, so this also wouldn't be good approach...
Wysłane z mojego Moto G przy użyciu Tapatalka
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569911
Hey Mr. Calidos (OP), any news on your project? I already made this topic a favorite one for me.. Heheh.
[]s!
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JJmattos1 said:
Any news on your project?
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Unfortunately, at the moment, a kernel module called 'msm_otg' is stopping the device from sleeping while the SD is inserted.
This means that I have to take the SD out when I'm not using the phone.
To solve this, I need to modify the kernel to allow deep sleep to occur. I'll post an update when I've solved this problem.
P.S; My username is actually Latin. It means: "The cunning of that which is hidden". It's about people's use of technology that they don't understand.
I see!
So, you'll only post the video after making this little mod on the kernel side?
[]s and thanks again for the great idea that you got !
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Might try a video without kernel mod, but I am doing a-level exams at the moment, so I'm quite busy.
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I'm wondering, if i use a ROM that has a Wakelock Blocker, like PAC-MAN, and use that feature to stop that OTG wakelock, will the OTG still work or not?
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The problem is that otg is not recognised as a system app or process, as it's controlled by the kernel, which is firmware.
callidus_ex_de_latebros said:
The problem is that otg is not recognised as a system app or process, as it's controlled by the kernel, which is firmware.
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I will help work on the kernel when my device gets here around the 15th i know a little something about kernels
Any news?
Everything explained in this thread
You have to remove the chip from your sim card and place it on your SD Card
Has anybody ever tried this method? As I think doing this could possibly damage your SIM card.
i tried to create this "sandwich" too, but if i had compared my first product with the very tiny slot, i have stopped development until now. A sandwich like this isn’t so necessary for me.
This is not my post, but you can see there some pics about the way you have to go then:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/honor-7-2x-sim-plus-micro-sd-karte-gleichzeitig-nutzen.733080/
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DarkGuyver said:
Has anybody ever tried this method? As I think doing this could possibly damage your SIM card.
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In this video you have how to do this only not for Honor 7 but other simmilar devices
Hi i did it yesterday and everything is perfect. Only what i do is separate chip from nanosim by iron and glue it on sd card
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You can follow this tutorial I´ve made. Use google translate from Portuguese.
Guys is there any way to connect microsd and chip from sim card without glue ? I dont want to destroy my 64 GB card and also I would like to use in future diffrenet sim so to glue it is not a option
micz133 said:
Guys is there any way to connect microsd and chip from sim card without glue ? I dont want to destroy my 64 GB card and also I would like to use in future diffrenet sim so to glue it is not a option
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I suppose anything not strong enough will avoid the correct contact from the card reader. From my small experience (only made it twice) the SIM position is crucial and a slight misalignment is enough for malfunction.
So:
1 - You have to make the SIM really thin to fit the SIM tray with the microSD, thus "destroying" it for future reapplications.
2 - The microSD is easily reused, just by gently and patiently removing the SIM and glue remains. Also, no metal part from the microSD is harmed.
You can always ask for a SIM replacement or a twin card. I have 2 with the same number and I can do all there is to do with either one.
I don't care about destryoing my sim card it can be easly replaced, worry about microsdcard if I glue a sim card to it how can I remove it in future ? Supeglue is kinda strong
Has anyone had an real success with this? I've separated the SIM contact from the plastic backing and removed any excess. I've trimmed all excess from the SIM contact (so no overlap with the tray) and have temporally stuck the SIM contact to MicroSD card with double-sided stick tape but no matter what I do I cannot get the SIM tray to slide back into the phone because the combo of the MicoSD + SIM contact is too thick. I even tried it without double side tape to see if if would go in but still no joy. Anyone got any ideas because there's seemingly nothing left to remove from the SIM contact or MicorSD. BTW, I'm using Vodafone UK SIM and 64GB Samsung MicroSD.
yes it's working for 5 month now. it's really Hard to get the sandwich into the Phone but it works and can be removed. if anything except the sim chip is removed You have to glue it on the sd. all other isn't strong enough and is too fat. Small drop off glue is enough and the sim can be removed from sd with cutter knife. tested it and sim and sd still working fine... Bend the edges from the sim a little down before gluing it so they don't jam up in the Phone
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yes it's working for 5 month now. it's really Hard to get the sandwich into the Phone but it works and can be removed. if anything except the sim chip is removed You have to glue it on the sd. all other isn't strong enough and is too fat. Small drop off glue is enough and the sim can be removed from sd with cutter knife. tested it and sim and sd still working fine... Bend the edges from the sim a little down before gluing it so they don't jam up in the Phone
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OK, now I have a big problem. I glued the SIM to the MicroSD using a tiny bit of thinly spread glue and the SIM stuck fine. I then tried to install the MicroSD/SIM hybrid into the phone and it was very tight. I g and jiggled and it JUST went it in with a firm press. The phone recognises the SIM but can't see the MicroSD so I've come take it out and try again but the SIM tray is stuck inside the phone and will not come out. I thought about removing the rear casing to help with this but the screw holding the case is behind the lip of the SIM tray. I have no idea what to do next!!
Would really appreciate some help on this.
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OK, now I have a big problem. I glued the SIM to the MicroSD using a tiny bit of thinly spread glue and the SIM stuck fine. I then tried to install the MicroSD/SIM hybrid into the phone and it was very tight. I g and jiggled and it JUST went it in with a firm press. The phone recognises the SIM but can't see the MicroSD so I've come take it out and try again but the SIM tray is stuck inside the phone and will not come out. I thought about removing the rear casing to help with this but the screw holding the case is behind the lip of the SIM tray. I have no idea what to do next!!
Would really appreciate some help on this.
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I actually managed to release the tray with pliers and a strong thin nail pushed very hard into the release hole. It came free by a fraction of a mm, just enough to get a modelling knife edge into it to prise it open.
I've measured a few other MicroSD's and there are differences in thickness by +/- 0.1mm, which may well be enough to stop the hybrid card going in altogether. My Vodafone UK SIM was also very very slightly domed, not absolutely 100% flat.
The upshot of this is that it's imperative to check that the combined thickness of your SIM plate and MicroSD card will go in happily. I actually tried them together into the tray without any adhesive whatsoever and even this felt a very tight fit. I figured I'd stick them together and see if I could waggle them in - no I couldn't, of course it was even tighter.
This is a precautionary heads-up for anyone who thinks this is a simple and easy solution. In principle it is, in reality it can be a huge pain in the ass. Lesson learned.
Hey Mi Lover and other engineers!
You must deal with this problem have
The solution is simple
Without using special equipment
Only the amount of glue!
You must do the following steps in order to get the correct result
1- Pull out the metal part of the SIM card with razor blade
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2- Stick SIM card with amount of glue! (just a little!)
attention:
1- This work is very delicate so cut the around of sim card carefully with razor. (careful dont cut ur hand )
2- dont use amount of glue to stick sim card to sd card. (if u use a lot of glue the height of sd card will be increase and u cant placed sim's slot!
3- It's better use 3G sim card to do it (the IC's are smaller than 4G) if you use 4G press and smash edge of sim card to sleep on the sd card!
4- and last guidance is use 128gig smartphone it's difficult way if u are impatient!
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Thanks, tried with 4g sim and 64gb sandisk and works well. Used for 2 weeks now without any trouble.
Only the problem is I managed to put them in... it was hard to do so as it was thicker 4g sim. I used little force.
Now I worry how will I get them out (haven't tried yet)
Edit: After another week I tried to pull sim tray out and it came out ok.
Don't try this, I ruined my SD card as well as the SIM card. This works great, why take the risk?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nano-SIM-Ca...677615?hash=item4b0faf0d2f:g:WlwAAOSw5cNYgc~V
Well I have broken two sim cards when trying to install this way, all was in pretty good visual condition (not so ugly as above) and fits perfectly in the bed with sd card. Seems that sim card is very sensitive to any pressure when is "naked", but this extender is maybe some ugly solution.
The extender fits in my (flip cover) case without any problem and so the SIM card is very well hidden, you can't see or feel it. If you only use a silicon case you will slighty feel a little bump where the SIM card is attached.
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The extender fits in my (flip cover) case without any problem and so the SIM card is very well hidden, you can't see or feel it. If you only use a silicon case you will slighty feel a little bump where the SIM card is attached.
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does it still work at android 8? a lot of people can't get pass it now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sim-card-tray-slot-problem-to-sim-card-t3822368
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does it still work at android 8? a lot of people can't get pass it now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sim-card-tray-slot-problem-to-sim-card-t3822368
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I don't know, on my Mi Max I'm still on Android 7 (using GlobeROM). On my Samsung Note 7 however, I'm using a custom ROM on Android 8 in which this option of simultaneously using 2SIM & SD was made available again (I thought Samsung had blocked this option, but it seems Android 8 is doing that...). So, I guess developers might know how to bypass this.
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I don't know, on my Mi Max I'm still on Android 7 (using GlobeROM). On my Samsung Note 7 however, I'm using a custom ROM on Android 8 in which this option of simultaneously using 2SIM & SD was made available again (I thought Samsung had blocked this option, but it seems Android 8 is doing that...). So, I guess developers might know how to bypass this.
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sigh not sure if i want to jailbreak just for this
so far i haven had the need for jail break
i feel android have enough apps to do almost anything