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Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers
My recommendation is to wait for the Christmas. Google may have a surprise for us (nexus 2? Probably not, but maybe something else), Samsung just said they are announcing a new phone on Nov 3..
Im thinking of upgrading also! Will wait around for a bit longer though
I'm sitting tight until I see more infos about the rumored N2
Yes, it is. I want to. I love the new Sense UI.
I might just wait until Motorola's and HTC's Tegra 2 dual core phones show up Christmas.
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Samsung just said they are announcing a new phone on Nov 3..
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Link / proof of this?
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Link / proof of this?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/25/samsung-announcing-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/25/samsung-announcing-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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Thanks. Nov 8th* though, not 3rd. Should be interesting...
I have both and I must say, the big screen makes SO MUCH of a difference!
When I put them side by side, the HD's screen just looks amazing! Clear and sharp, I have to remind myself that its still at the same resolution.
And of course, watching movies, reading comics, books, playing games, etc. is all much better.
I think its worth the upgrade.
Another point - No more worrying about A2SD. My N1 has A2SD enabled to be able to take the number of apps I have installed (DHD has same apps and also 680MB free mem still).
The battery life, OTOH, is still to be tested. I know I get great battery life with enomther's rom on my N1. The DHD feels more like I have cyanogen's rom on it
liqn7 said:
Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers
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I want the desirehd as well, but theres two things im gonna wait for... 1 - permament root, 2 - 2.3 based CM rom.
Thats my two cents.
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I personally won't go with any phone that cannot have permanent root. I like to tinker too much.
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Thanks. Nov 8th* though, not 3rd. Should be interesting...
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Woops, 8, not 3. Sorry.
Thanks for the input everyone. I'll see what happens when it arrives in 2 weeks. I think at this stage the only thing which would make me keep it is for the extra 0.6" screen size.
I'm also getting a 10" tablet too, so the extra size may be redundant as I transfer some of my tasks across.
My question to you, OP, is how often are you capable of upgrading your phone? Are you gonna be stuck with this phone for a while? If you're financially capable of upgrading let's say every 6 months with no problem at all, then i don't see why not, more phones to play with. You'd still be able to get the next best thing come first half of next year.
I don't upgrade all that often for the sake of it. I've recalculated (correctly) and its actually going to cost me $270 for the upgrade
Which in my opinion probably isn't worth it in regards to the step up it provides relative to the N1.
If I really want to upgrade I might get a Vibrant, which has similar specs to the Desire HD, but which is about the same price as the N1 at the moment.
Thanks for your input!
Dhd is a mean phone, no bones about it but the no hacking thing is a little bit of a turn off for me.
Gonna wait for a bit to see what the nexus two will be like first. After all the google phone will always be the development phone and ergo the hackers phone.
For a person who doesn't wish to hack and just wants a good phone I would recommend the dhd over anything else on the market right now however.
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It does look pretty smart but the one thing I would say is 4.3" isn't very friendly on the thumb if your hands are of an average/large size.
I get to play with a lot of phones and the Touch HD and Nexus One/Desire thereafter were built with the optimum size screen for touch/visibility (in my opinion).
I used an HD7 today and just like the HD2 it looks great but it really is a stretch to use one hand to operate all areas of the screen.
It's definitly impressive but I should be able to hold my cuppa in one hand and browse etc with the other.
I really hope with the big willy competition going on with the manufacturers that the usability (which lets be honest is checking mails,texts, social media and browsing for most users) isn't completely forgotten about.
Hopefully 3.7" will survive.
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Dhd is a mean phone, no bones about it but the no hacking thing is a little bit of a turn off for me.
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+1 the temp root thing is making me wary of changing too.
Hopefully it gets solved, but like the Droid it may never be..
Nothing against the DHD itself, but thanks guys for reinforcing that relative to the N1 the DHD is not that much of a step up.
So a mate got this phone last night. I had a play around with it for a little bit. ITS BLOODY HUGE!! 4.3" i think is just too big! Build quality etc seems very good. nice screen but just a bit to big for my liking! Has some nice new options though with Sense 2.0
At work we got the Omnia 7 (WP7) which has a 4" screen. Now this i think is the perfect size!
I upgraded to a desire hd after my nexus one broke. The desire hd feels a lot more expensive than the nexus but in my opinion not worth an upgrade. I miss the hackability of my old nexus and I especially miss cyanogen mod.
Don't get me wrong, overclocking the desire hd to speeds around 1.5ghz added with the better gpu makes for one hell of a speedy device. It's a great phone but its not that much better
Am really struggling to make a decision on which phone to get between these 2 . The desire hd following on from the origional desire has got an 8 megapixel camera, screen looks bigger but then would have to wait for ages to get updates when google releases them. So i just don't know what you guys reckon between these two great phones?, i just can't decide .
Go with the Nexus S.
The Desire HD has a big screen but it sounds like it doesn't look as good as the G2 screen or the Galaxy S. Besides, with the NS you'll have the updates first and probably a better community support.
I think the really hard choice is between the G2 (physical keyboard, better construction, good screen) and the Nexus S... But if you're hesitating between Desire HD and Nexus S take the Nexus S.
I think DHD is better because :
- 720p videos recording
- 8Mpx Camera with dual LED flash
- Micro SD slot
- Radio FM
- Notification LED
- Native support of Xvid and Avi
- Dolby Mobile and SRS WOW
- DLNA
- No PenTile Matrix
- Better support for audio formats
- Body in aluminium
- New Sense
- HTC Locations
- HTCsense.com
- 768 MB of RAM
- Fastboot
But maybe i'm wrong.
The only thing i regret in the DHD is that it hasn't front camera.
today i had a chance to compare my galaxy s and dhd, but anyway few things that are for sure better on ns
- screen - slc on dhd is good, but cant compare at all with samoled, period.
- audio quality is pathetic on dhd
- 8mpx camera is plain average, if not worse than that
- no gorilla glass and body has camera part cose of which u cant normaly place phone on anything without thinking that it will be scratched
im rly lazy to white all that down, but sgS is better than dhd, and nS is just one step ahead at least
DHD has everything. But question is does it deliver on all fronts. No.
According to most of the users. Its External speakers suck, Battery is pathetic. U vl have have to cut the functionality of most the things given to get through the day. Whats the use of having them if u cant use them. Camera is okayish. And many issues related to fittings. Also you would playing much much more than what you would be for Nexus S.
Nexus S has few things. But mostly all needed things. Good battery and with googles backing I think whatever is there on the phone should work flawlessly
Q.... Is the MT4G not a worthy competitor??? Seems to me like the MT4G has all the same things the Nexus S has + what everyone is complaining it doesn't have (now). HSPA+, Expandable memory slot, FM radio, More ram and MADE BY HTC!!! Other than Tmo bloat and no samoled, isnt it right up there! So why is no one putting it in contention?? Am i missing something here? (Aside from pure Google. Hardware wise.)
played with the desire hd today, internet was dead slow, its too big to fit in the hand i must agree, its one big and ugly phone, and now with this whole video calling game stepping up, the desire hd, will be lost so will await the coming of the nexus s, in uk.
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played with the desire hd today, internet was dead slow, its too big to fit in the hand i must agree, its one big and ugly phone, and now with this whole video calling game stepping up, the desire hd, will be lost so will await the coming of the nexus s, in uk.
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u mean that nexus will be faster with adobe flash than desire ?DD i am laughing right now......sgx540 doesnt have adobe flash hw acceleration try turn off flash on desire u will see best device on the world nexus is **** sorry. desire has some errors but........
Flash how do u turn it off on desire?
I played with my friend's DHD and I dont like it that much. The only thing I like is the screen size. Speed wise is not that impressive.
I will take Nexus S any day just because of some more important aspects:
- Better battery life
- Super Amoled
- Pure Google experience (no need to wait long to get update!)
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I think DHD is better because :
- 720p videos recording
- 8Mpx Camera with dual LED flash
- Micro SD slot
- Radio FM
- Notification LED
- Native support of Xvid and Avi
- Dolby Mobile and SRS WOW
- DLNA
- No PenTile Matrix
- Better support for audio formats
- Body in aluminium
- New Sense
- HTC Locations
- HTCsense.com
- 768 MB of RAM
- Fastboot
But maybe i'm wrong.
The only thing i regret in the DHD is that it hasn't front camera.
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The Desire HD is really a beautiful piece of hardware. It just feels like a solid quality phone in your hand.
One thing I've realized using both a Nexus One and Desire HD is the difference in the amount of RAM.
I switch between apps a lot when I'm in the gym, especially these three: timer, RSS reader, JEFIT (work out program). On Nexus One say I'm in the routine page in JEFIT and jump to say timer through the notification bar, when I press back to go back to JEFIT the content goes blank. I have to back out to the starting screen in JEFIT and navigate to routine again to see content.
On the Desire HD, this ain't a problem.
It could be a programming issue. But the way Android is designed bigger RAM equals less frequency of apps being cleared from memory.
I wish Google had more leverage to make Samsung beef up the specs of Nexus S more. Don't get me wrong, I still want one very much, mainly for the fastest update, but the S really isn't as revolution as the One when it came out.
For me it's also very hard to find a decision about the two phones...
Right now I have a HTC Desire and I'm really tired to wait for the latest software updates, BUT... i really like the htc additions.. especially the dialer, contacts app, camera app and sense...
And I know that the Nexus S will have a better community and a lot of devs... so can I hope after some time to see a htc sense rom (maybe when 2.3 comes out) ported to the nexus s and all apps work without any problems?
I'm also worried about the RAM... the desire hd doesn't have much more... and I really wonder if it makes any difference. My current HTC Desire also has about 512mb and I think that it's enough... hmm
Reasons not to get the Desire HD
May not get Honeycomb officially (will defo get 2.3)
Internal and external speaker problems, and very quiet. Internal speaker has high static jolts when calling over 2g. This is also the same for the Desire Z.
Heavy phone over a large area, 160g.
Scratch the metal back and your phone devalues without possible rectification.
Terrible screen, big but blacks are very bleached and also you have a white hue over the phone when viewing from an off straight angle.
Horrible battery cover, gap in the back part + easily bends and warped....
JD
I just went with a galaxy s. Until google gets NFC up and running 100%, the NS has absolutely nothign to offer over this phone. (well ok the quick updates, bt the cooking community is pretty good on XDA). Even if NFC is up and running in as little as 3-6 months, odds are that there will be a handfull of hands-down better phones avaiable with NFC.
Anywho... went used so I can sell it again when the time comes and minimize my loss while I wait for this nexus s thing to be over (either by being fixed or by having the first wave of NFC phones out).
nexus s
played on dhd not impressed way to sluggish battery drains like a running tap lol,audio quality quite poor,,,nexus s is far better,thats my oppinion
I would recommend the nexus s
Everything ist fine with the DHD except for the battery. I've tried every method available now to prolong batterylife of my dhd and still lose 40% batterylife on average use [in 4.5 hours]
But if u live in germany or europe and still want a dhd you're more than welcomed to trade da dhd and nexus s
Swyped from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
The Desire HD was the biggest disappointment of the year for me. The screen is absolutely HORRIBLE. It's washed out and dull. I put the Desire HD next to the Desire and the Galaxy S and the result was so glaringly pathetic that I lost all interest in the HD from that moment on. Sure it has a big screen, but I'd much rather loose the .3 (.4?) inches and jump from generic LCD to Super AMOLED.
I'm rather surprised that so few sites (if any) that reviewed the HD seem to make note of it's terrible screen resolution and color.
Anyway, with the Nexus S being essentially the Galaxy S2, it's almost a hands down "yes" in terms of the decision to buy it.
This is the Nexus S section of the forum, what do you think were going to say? If we thought the Desire HD was better, we would probably have the Desire HD, but since most people who come here, including myself, think otherwise I'm going to say get the Nexus S.
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
FriedSushi87 said:
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
evereste said:
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
orangekid said:
whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
So, we have had a post comparing the DHD to the One S, now how about to the One X. After all, when the DHD came out it was HTCs flagship, just as the One X is now.
Design:
The One X feels nicer in hand. MUCH nicer. Its very comfortable and light weight to hold in hand. It feels better in hand then the Desire HD.
Although it is lighter, it has just enough heft to feel like a cell phone instead of a remote control.
Win: One X
Build Quality:
I wont take into account all the issues that are popping up in the 1x section (bad screens, bad QA, etc.), and I will only comment on the polycarb vs metal aspect of the two phones here.
The 1X feels solid in hand, no doubt. But when you hold the DHD and then hold the 1X you feel very scared of dropping the phone. The 1X does not provide the same feeling of ruggedness and rigidity that the DHD provides to you.
IMO... the 1X feels better then the Sensation did, but it lacks the reassuring solidity of the DHD.
Is this a bad thing? Yes and No. If you really liked the metal design, you will be disappointed as I was. I SERIOUSLY considered returning the device based on this aspect alone. The DHD just feels like a TANK. When I have that phone in hand I feel invincible, where as the 1X... not so much lol.
Win: DHD
Speed:
The 1X wins this HANDS DOWN. Keep in mind I have the North American version with Dual Core S4. The 1X is an instant upgrade.
I won't even comment anymore on this section because thats how much faster it is compared to the Desire HD.
Win: 1X
Battery:
I have only had the device for a few days now and the battery life has been a vast improvement over the DHD. Will comment back on this later in the day if people are curious.
Win: 1X
Overall:
So... the question everyone has been waiting for: Is the 1X a true successor to the Desire HD? IMO... No.
The 1X is a very mainstream phone. TBH... it feels like it is the successor to the Sensation. It attempts to be thin and light weight, while sacrificing the metallic feel we all love.
Although it is an upgrade in every.single.way, I can not say that it is the successor to the DHD. I feel HTC designed this phone for mainstream love.
Although I haven't had a chance to hold the 1S in hand, I think its worth a shot to see if it feel better.
Final remarks:
This phone - in no way - feels "plasticy" or "cheap". It just does not have the same feel as the DHD. But it also does not have the same heft either, which imo is a good thing.
So should you upgrade? Yes.
Although I felt the Sensation was not a big enough upgrade from the DHD, I can safely say the 1X is. I suggest everyone who is considering it should do so!
That being said, if the metallic unibody is a big deciding factor, hold off. I'm sure HTCs next flagship will have the MAO body.
Will post pics later in the day.
Very informative thank you very much. That being said, I will not be upgrading for at least another 6 months. This phone is still a very decent device and I feel it still has a lot of potential. Obviously HTC feels the same, using the same hardware on their mid-range device as well as giving the DHD a 4.0 update. Not bad for a 18 month old device. This phone still competes with the likes of the iPhone 4 which is the second most used phone, slightly behind the 3gs. Who knows? Once 4.0 comes out with the official drivers we might see a dramatic speed increase.
Another reason I will not be getting the One X is simply because I don't feel as if the quad core processor is being optimized to its full extent. It's new technology and needs more attention. I'm not denying the fact it's faster, I just don't think it is being used to its full potential.
Got to agree. Frankly if you talk about basic functions, what the 1x can do, the DHD can also do.
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Got to agree. Frankly if you talk about basic functions, what the 1x can do, the DHD can also do.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD
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Very informative thank you very much. That being said, I will not be upgrading for at least another 6 months. This phone is still a very decent device and I feel it still has a lot of potential. Obviously HTC feels the same, using the same hardware on their mid-range device as well as giving the DHD a 4.0 update. Not bad for a 18 month old device. This phone still competes with the likes of the iPhone 4 which is the second most used phone, slightly behind the 3gs. Who knows? Once 4.0 comes out with the official drivers we might see a dramatic speed increase.
Another reason I will not be getting the One X is simply because I don't feel as if the quad core processor is being optimized to its full extent. It's new technology and needs more attention. I'm not denying the fact it's faster, I just don't think it is being used to its full potential.
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I agree that the DHD is a capable phone... but I cannot describe how much better the experience is on my XL versus the DHD. Everything the DHD did... this phone does... much better :\
The 1X however wont do anything mind blowingly better. It is essentially a plastic DHD.
TBH... this phone isn't a DHD successor... It's a sensation successor. Once we get a S4Pro device with a MAO body... then THAT will be a successor for the DHD.
A note on Battery Life:
Just came back from work & Battery has 65% charge left. Same usage as my DHD, but DHD would be close to dead by now.
Thanks for that
No worries!
I just retuned my 1X...
It had a warmer display with slightly yellower screens. Refused to exchange my unit so I refunded it.
Very disappointed in HTC for using 2 different panels... I won't buy a new HTC device until HTC stops slacking... What is the point of using 2 different screens?
As a comparison: On my DHD with sense 4.0, the messaging and settings looked white... but on my One X it looked... an off white color. Not yellow, but not bright white... Other then that was very nice.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
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Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
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My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.