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Desire HD vs. N1 - Worth upgrading?

Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers

My two pence, screen is bigger but amoled wins hands down, for colour, blacks and viewing angle, and no optical track part which is a pain when editing text, and no more pixels so browsing is about the same but not quite as sharp....the phone is quite a lot of bigger and could be easier to drop and carry, I would keep the desire but the upgrade bug got to me.... it is an ok phone but not as big a jump away you might expect.
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itolson said:
My two pence, screen is bigger but amoled wins hands down, for colour, blacks and viewing angle, and no optical track part which is a pain when editing text, and no more pixels so browsing is about the same but not quite as sharp....the phone is quite a lot of bigger and could be easier to drop and carry, I would keep the desire but the upgrade bug got to me.... it is an ok phone but not as big a jump away you might expect.
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Desire HD is going to be a huge upgrade over my nokia dumbphone (no, really) but coming from a N1 it's probably not going to be such a huge leap.

liqn7 said:
Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers
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Mate...
I just received my HD. So far, I had HTC desire and Iphone (which I gave to my wife). I used to be excited but once I get hold of it...I really think you maybe better off just wait for another generation. Unless you are sooooo desperate of getting those bigger screen. Here is the link of my thought:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464&page=6

kuailan said:
Mate...
I just received my HD. So far, I had HTC desire and Iphone (which I gave to my wife). I used to be excited but once I get hold of it...I really think you maybe better off just wait for another generation. Unless you are sooooo desperate of getting those bigger screen. Here is the link of my thought:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464&page=6
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I kind of agree. My Nokia N900 refused to charge anymore, so I had the choice of buying a desktop charger and swap batteries every day or buy a new phone. Since I didn't want the hassle of having to swap batteries constantly and only use bluetooth to connect my N900 to my PC, I decided to buy a Desire HD. While it is a great phone, it's not heaps better than what I was used to. For you, I'd say the same thing. The Desire HD is bigger, faster and of course newer, but imho not worth the upgrade just yet coming from an N1.

Thanks for the input everyone. I'll see what happens when it arrives in 2 weeks. I think at this stage the only thing which would make me keep it is for the extra 0.6" screen size.
I'm also getting a 10" tablet too, so the extra size may be redundant as I trnasfer some of my tasks across.
cheers

Desire HD or Nexus 2(or whatever its called)?

hello guys,
i'm currently not sure about what i'm thinking, my Desire HD order will probably arrive at 15th November, and the new phone is going to be announced at the 8th... so should i cancel my order and wait for the new Samsung phone? or keep waiting??
i dont even want to wait for the releasing period for the new Samsung, which i think i may get it by December???!!!!
oh God

im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.

Wren nexus one was released the phone was available the same day as the announcement. There has been talk that google will be selling it direct again this time round though I m not convinced it ll be on the same day. However, there shouldn't be long wait like DHD.
Personally I m not sure if it ll be a better phone, as I hated everything there is about Galaxy S. It ll basically be Gingerbread vs almighty DHD on Froyo, assuming HTC won't be bothered to update DHD to gingerbread any time soon. I m sticking with DHD for now unless Samsung has real trick up it's sleeve this time. I find it hard to convince myself to put up with another dreadful Galaxy S alike experience.
Sigh.. Only if HTC is more ethusiatic about it's software upgrade and Motorola is more keen about Android...

Sansung's got really nice hardware(only nice in figures) but their system craps,will think about it if it will get a none plastic-like surface and system designed by google itself.

So far the news ive read tell that in terms of hardware its not good, it will be more of a developer test machine since it brings 2.3.

I think Google is committing suicide by letting Samsung handle Nexus Two

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- Stock Google Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)- 1.2 GHz processor (mostly overclocked Hummingbird or may be different model)
- 4 inch AMOLED display (Could be Super-AMOLED version)
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
- All the usuals like WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5 mm headset jack, etc.
- Outer casing is a mix of metal and plastic materials
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I had a Nexus that was stolen from me, god how i miss that phone
As a replacement i am getting the Desire HD through the insurance i had on the Nexus.
However having been on the gravy train that is Android Dev phones (G1 & Nexus one) i must say that the Desire HD doesn't seem to be a worthy upgrade from the nexus, i was pretty psyched in the beginning about the Desire HD but the more i learn about it the less it appeals to me.
The screen isn't Amoled; the touch sensor isn't unlimited like i assume it will be on the Nexus two (Galaxy S :Atmel maXtouchsensor),
The battery is not 1500mha - honestly even if the cpu is much more power efficient than the old generation cpu's why not throw in a bigger battery?
And no front facing camera which in itself isn't a deal breaker but cmon, its not like we are buying budget phones here anyways...
As already mentioned possibly only one software upgrade during it's life time which to be honest is quite average however Google Dev phones always has the latest & greatest.
Not to bash on the Desire HD, but honestly its just a EVO with a new CPU minus the frontfacing camera and kickstand.
I will most probably test out the Desire HD and and change to Nexus Two if it seems better in some of these aspects.

Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?

you might as well ask why did the us implement WCDMA or 4G while the rest of the world is stil 3.5G (even in Japan..i think)??
they cater to the specific market needs.
same as Japanese mobile carriers, they only produced their phones for their markets in consideration only.
which is why they are highly sought for

LeviathanPT said:
Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?
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thats just your opinion of things
Europe get the release first for nearly all HTC phones.
the US get rebranded versions. they also get some different phones because they use rubbish CDMA technology.
people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
the phone does have root,be it temporary at the moment but things have to start from somewhere. i don't see the average user like some people here trying to obtain root, but moan and demand it.
i don't see the nexus two being an all awesome phone. the nexus one's bootloader got unlocked with 1 click because it was a development phone but it voided the warranty. how many people are going to risk that with a samsung built device?

SupremeBeaver said:
im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.
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absolutely my thinking. I already have the DHD, but if the protection cannot be unlocked, and the specs of the "Nexus two" are OK/confirmed, I have not choice as to sell the DHD. Having had the Nexus One (and still owning it), I am no longer tolerating manufacturers lock-downs! That is a no-go for me nowadays.
Plus: I HATE the speaker on the DHD - (same XXX as on the nexus one). And I really have a bad feeling about these plastic covers on the DHD (only a matter of time until they wear out).
If the "nexus two" has a decent design and better materials (less plastic than the iphone-look-alike Galaxy S), my decision is made...

Yes that's true but im talking in terms of quality, look at the Incredible HD (desire hd for US) and look how perfect it is compared with the Desire HD
El_Nino9 said:
people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
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Review ?! What the freaking hell, im talking in terms of product Quality/Design, from every single review and comment ive read theres flaws with the design of the Desire HD, look at EVO 4G and Incredible HD they are brilliant, the EVO 4G came up before the Desire HD any decent company would grab their design and improve it, not make it more ridiculous.
Ive ordered a Desire HD since the day 2 of its announcement then amazon screwed their customers and now im waiting on handtec 3rd shipment so you cant say im a anti Desire HD... freaking fanboys are starting already...

LeviathanPT said:
Speculation so far:
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- Stock Google Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)- 1.2 GHz processor (mostly overclocked Hummingbird or may be different model)
- 4 inch AMOLED display (Could be Super-AMOLED version)
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
- All the usuals like WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5 mm headset jack, etc.
- Outer casing is a mix of metal and plastic materials
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512? dont think so...
DHD already has 786. and 1GB will be required for 3.x

1GB ?! :| What the hell where have you read that ?! Link please!

LeviathanPT said:
1GB ?! :| What the hell where have you read that ?! Link please!
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i havent.
its what i would expect from it.

Hey, even Windows 7 can run on 1 gb of memory
Android 3.0 will run on lot less.

hard choise, n2 doesnt exist yet.
btw...I'd rather buy a google experience with a huge screen. actually, the only reason I didnt buy a galaxyS so far, is it's samsung software and the lack of a flash-led. DHD...I dislike how htc managed it

El_Nino9 said:
people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
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I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.

ppxda said:
I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.
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OK - please share what did you expect DHD to be? Please tell me what evolutionary leap could be achieved in about six monts? And enough of the AMOLED thing! HTC are absolutely right not to put themselves dependant on one supplier that also happens to be their competitor. And when (not if) they are forced to switch to another technology, they will have to take the blame for it. Fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me. You get bigger screen, more RAM and ROM, better camera, next gen CPU... what else can be desired in six months of evolution? 2GHz CPU? Not gonna happen! I personally would like from the phone to cook and clean, but that also woun't happen .

Christmas miracle :')

Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho

iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4

Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.

SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|

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SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?

I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.

ed10000 said:
I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator

calexus1182 said:
Say whaat?
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...

hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?

Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.

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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo

Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories

Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**

My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?

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Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket

sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.

i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it

Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.

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Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.

HTC HD2 VS HTC Sensation

Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.

FriedSushi87 said:
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..

FriedSushi87 said:
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?

awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)

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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...

This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance

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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.

with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )

Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....

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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.

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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?

I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.

evereste said:
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.

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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?

orangekid said:
whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html

what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...

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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.

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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.

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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...

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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.

Poll:Happy owner, yet playing withthe tought of HTC One X. What about you?

I (as I believe most of you too) am a generally happy Note user since Dec. 2011. Really the best phone that I have owned in a while. Just wondering how many others have the same tingly thought about selling GN and picking up a HTC One X (considering that there are not major bugs)?
For:
1. Guaranteed ICS NOW(who knows when Samsung will actually deliver, they already proved that official statements /*cough*will be out Q1=FAIL*cough*/ don't really mean much to them, just profit).
2. I have never met anyone crazy about touchwiz. Quite the opposite with Sense.
3. 4 Core (yes, we don't know real word performance yet, but cant be that bad).
4. Apart from camera performance, HTC has more or less been on par, quality wise with Samsung. Maybe they finally go it right this time.
5. Free 25GB dropbox (or was that 50Gb Box?).
6. Looks sexy (at least on the pictures)
7. SGS3 hasn't even been announced not to talk of GN2.
Against:
1. I just cant get enough of the HUGE screen. No one would call One X small screen, but after Note everything seems small.
2. S Pen. To be honest I never ever use it. But its there and am sure some people do.
3. Its a solid phone. No ICS but what we have now works well.
4. No one really knows if the One X will be all that its said to be. No real reviews yet.
5. No SD card.
maybe: 6. Non removable battery. (I personally never remove it, but might be a con for some).
I know it will be easier to make a final decision when One X is actually out and can be bought. However, its just a couple of week away and I believe if its going to be great, then the used sales price of GN will drop (that is if many GN start to flood the pre-owned market).
Anyway, every new day I notice I am consider the option more and more. What about you?

You also forgot a couple more cons with the HTC One X...no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.

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You also forgot a couple more cons with the HTC One X...no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.
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Thanks. I have added them. Why they didn't even come to mind is that I have a 16Gb sd in my GN and its more that enough for me. So the stock 32 would be enough too. Yet, I see how that can be limiting for some folks.
With regards to the battery I never personally remove it. I didn't know that a lot of folks did (apart from reseting, which I am sure the One X will have some pin hole for, to cut power).

In your Fors:
If I was in THAT big of a hurry I'd just put one of the ICS roms on it.
I messed around with one a bit ago, and it was already pretty usable as a daily driver.
The only 'For' which vaguely interests me is having quad core. Yet the phone I have is already plenty fast for the most part. A couple of games have a bit of lag, and I suppose quad core would be nice for that.
But am I going to trade my 5.3" screen and the s-pen for that? Not a chance.
- Frank

Biggest con for me is it is still HTC. Ive used htc devices since the tmobile/cingular wing(or whatever the first one was) htc touch pro, tp2, tilt, tilt2 etc. But they always find a way to disappoint me.
Besides the greatest phone ever made HTC HD2(personal opinion), ive had nothing but issues with htc. I dont expect nothing different from the one x. Rather its tiny audio quality, dust, etc.

You can already get 50GB free from box if you install their app and I'd miss my OLED too much, so I won't. I also prefer the Samsung design.
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What attracts most of HTC is the camera, but it must beat Galaxy note with a lot for me to change.

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Biggest con for me is it is still HTC. Ive used htc devices since the tmobile/cingular wing(or whatever the first one was) htc touch pro, tp2, tilt, tilt2 etc. But they always find a way to disappoint me.
Besides the greatest phone ever made HTC HD2(personal opinion), ive had nothing but issues with htc. I dont expect nothing different from the one x. Rather its tiny audio quality, dust, etc.
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I also had htcs since the beginning and yes their best phone was the hd2 but they have come a long way and it is starting to show now. HTC is coming back that's what I think.
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With my Desire HD I did not feel the need to flash AOSP or even a launcher, quite the opposite with TouchWiz..
And Paul O'Brien said that the screen on the One X makes the screen on his Galaxy Nexus looks dull and dated, and he is a reputable source of course..
So am also on the fense but will wait to see the reviews first and then judge, but I think the X is already a very appealing phone

I have never met anyone crazy about touchwiz. Quite the opposite with Sense.
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Hmm not sure with that one. Sense hasn't changed much over the years either, which to me, is a little lazy from HTC.
I couldn't go back to a small screen and i use the s pen too much.

The question remaining is: Will they release updates to incremental android versions without delay (HTC is part of google alliance if i remember correctly)?
When LG first launched the first dual core with tegra 2 CPU and android 2.2, it took them almost a year to get to 2.3.3 and they suffered many bugs (random reboots, etc). I am extremely worried about the bugs this device will have. What if under certain circumstances a rogue stock app is using 100% of all CPUs and battery goes down in minutes?
You might say HTC is not LG, but being an early adopter to new technologies has been proven to be a not so good user experience.
As of now, even Nexus phones have differences in firmware versions. Some Galaxy Nexus devices still run 4.0.1 while others are on 4.0.2 .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558960
Version 4.0.3 isn't even officially out for them, yet new devices launch with it, or update to it. The message that this gives me as a consumer, is that if Google isn't confident enough to release 4.0.3 OTA for the device ICS was designed to work with, its not ready to be used in our phones.
As a user, i don't get a clear picture as to why is all this mess happening.
It can't be that hard to mention publicly: " Android version 4.x.x will be available on your mobile phones in xx/xx/2012. We are currently working on X, Y, Z at the moment". If there are worries that they miss the deadline, its cool, they could just mention that " X, Y are giving us a hard time, we expect to have them worked out by xx/xx/2012 ". Users will respect that.
If they expect us to keep buying these uber-phones, with those prices and still treat us like we buy candy, that is hardly professional. Not to mention the frustration and the time lost while the phone is being serviced.

HTC SENSE could alone be a reason for moving towards ONE X.
Being a owner of HTC's from Touch Diamond days,I can vouch the software implementation is much better than samsung out of the box.
ICS and GB apart,I mean a $700 device plays out videos with black blobs is simply not acceptable.Though video is not a concern for me as I rarely watch them on the device but still you can't ignore it,with also many niggles left out.The whole problem lies with the optimization of things by samsung.They think we are the beta testers rather than testing themselves.
Apart from the screen dimension,1X would be a better choice for me.

I really liked HTC sense on my old Desire, so I like the look of the HTC One, however I love the size of my Note so I don't think I could move.
Now if HTC were to do a 5.3 phone....
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Now if HTC were to do a 5.3 phone....
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No question there...

I wouldve have waited and gotten the htc one x after all its a quad core monster. But no, simply coz the screen is too small for me. welcome note, after all what good is quad core for games if there isnt a decent graphics card.
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I am giving One X some serious consideration. But I would like to see some reviews first. And play with the phone in real life. And I really like the size of the Note screen. But it could be the one phone that kills them all in 2012. Like GSII in 2011. And dont forget about Galaxy S III. Or what Samsung is going to name it. Lets wait and see. The One X does look really nice though

At home we have two HTC HD2,and a Desire z,both are very good devices.
Software implementation on HTC are very good,specialy RAM managment,
I like the Note's screen size,but will test the One X if its snappier then will most probably get it,actually the only con that I find in the Note itself is its beeing a slow device,and I hate that.

I really like this phone, I like Sense, but as said above from another users there are a lot of persistent bug in Htc phones: poor audio (Htc Sensation I can barely hear the other person speaking), dust under the screen!!

The ONLY thing which will make me switch from the Note is the Galaxy S 3 which is GUARANTEED to be better in almost every way to the One X

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3. 4 Core (yes, we don't know real word performance yet, but cant be that bad).
5. Free 25GB dropbox (or was that 50Gb Box?).
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*You can already get a Dropbox hack to give you the 25GB space which is easy to do, just go to "android" section on ipmart. I have already done it on my note and I have 25GB for 2 years
*4 core! really, I'm running a 4 core PC and the amount of applications that utilise a 4 core CPU on my PC are practically negligible. You will find it with android applications, how many support a 4 core CPU? or even dual core...and why? its not like your going to be doing some 3D CAD rendering on a 4+"screen android device.
Essentially your observations comes down to how shiny is that device compared to mine?
The note is a fantastic bit of kit and i think it will be a while before somebody comes out with something to better it.
Take care