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legend worth it to skip desire?

asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?

The desire is more powerful but don't forget that its screen has a higher resolution, in other words it needs more power...
Why I've chosen the legend over the desire?
- First of all the legend has a much better finish than the desire, that looks too "nerd" for me. It looks more like a small computer than a cell phone..
- The legend is very smooth and do not really need more power
-The legend can almost do everything the desire can do but with a better pocket size.
- With a 3,2 screen instead of 3,7 screen, and a worse processor, it think the battery is better.
However, you should take the desire if:
- You really want to watch videos on your device
- You like playing a lot with your device because i think that games are going to require more and more config to run...
Look at the price for both desire & legend, its nearly the same: there is no best phone between them...
=> The legend has one of the best design for a smartphone
=> The desire is the more powerful

Allow me to offer a few pointers. I've got both devices. Desire for myself and the Legend for my wife.
Performance-wise, there's no doubt the Desire edges out the Legend. But the Legend is not 40% slower as the CPU clockspeeds may suggest. You'll encounter the occasional hiccup with the Legend when compared to the Desire, but you probably won't notice it unless you have both devices like I do. I would call this round a draw.
Aesthetically, it's very subjective. When you pull your Legend out, people will be drawn to the aluminum unibody enclosure. When you pull your Desire out, people will be drawn to the large 3.7" screen. I think the Legend looks nicer, but the Desire is in no way "geeky". It looks better in real life than on photos/videos. I'd describe it as more sophisticated looking while the Legend is more sexy.
Surely, you've read/seen reviews of both. See here for my review on the Desire and here for my review on the Legend. I tried to only put down things that were not mentioned or covered extensively by others. And I mentioned a couple of differences that may or may not matter to you.
Personally, I think it comes down to your screen/device size preference.

every time I pull out my legend I always get asked about it. it stands out from the crowd especially being in a country where you cannot buy it in store.
as for lag on the legend, it gets a little bit of lag if you quickly switch between lots of applications but other than that its fine
also if lag is a problem then disabling HTC sense is always an option but then you are limited to 3 home screens
it is a very good looking device tho.
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just thought is ask is any one else's home button feel loose like the actual button is on the far left of the key ?
I think mine might be broken but I don't want to send it back to the UK and it still works ok was just curious
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big help from all of you guys......love the look of legend and i think i will go with legend instead of desire unless htc decides to make a legend looking phone with snapdragon processor

i think you will be very happy with it , especially once it is rooted and we can save apps to the sdcard :
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Everytime I pull out my Legend in public I get a fine for indecent exposure. But that's for a different forum.
I love my Desire both how it looks and how it performs. Just needs a better battery to really make it the best phone period.

I haven't touched the Desire, so I can only write about the Legend.
In my own opinion:
The Legend looks GREAT, ATTRACTIVE & CLEAN design, & feels SOLID. I get so much compliments about the phone, even old folks, who don't care about phones, think the my phone is very nice looking.
However, the sharp edge on top of the earpiece sometimes hurts my ear.
It performs very well & smooth.
I use the phone MAINLY for calls & text messages. & I don't play & care for games on the phone. Therefore, the Legend's SIZE is PERFECT for me.
The phone has GREAT audio quality, which is nice & clear, & has good battery life.
I read somewhere that says because of the Legend's aluminum case, it doesn't get excellent signal. However, the reception has not let me down yet.
I'm also using HTC Touch Diamond 2, & HTC HD. My house has really bad signal & I have NO PROBLEMS with the Legend, whereas the other 2 get drop calls constantly.
It has 4 plastic buttons that feel REALLY CHEAP. You'll be disappointed with these buttons.
It has some other Cons, but you'll get that with the Desire too, so I won't go there.
I think you should also go to the Desire's board & ask what they like & dislike about the Desire & then make your own decision.
For now, I'm keeping the Legend until I can find a phone suitable for my need.
Cheers,
D

yeah the only real problem with it are the cheap feeling buttons which is a shame but the rest is of a very high quality

legend or desire
i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.

blitz89 said:
i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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Agreed, traded my nexus for the Legend.
It's a bit slower but nothing that ruins the Android experience.It's till very quick.

blitz89 said:
i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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nexus one being almost identical to desire, every piece of info helps! thanks

... and something important too: Nexus one is due to be the "first in class" android, so is the most expensive one. Desire is cheaper than Nexus one to avoid confusions in the market. Legend need to be cheaper than Desire due to processor speed. I believe Legend would be more expensive if Nexus and Desire would not be available in the market. So, Legend has a competitive price with an excellent hardware and software configuration.

no doubt you are right. Best device I ever had
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week with legend
I been using Legend just about a week.. first phone ever that don't make any kind of hardware sound.. almost every phone that I had and tested even with HD2.. make those hardware movement noise.. this phone is rock solid.. by the look and design.. it's phone, fit in ur hand perfect.. one of the best sound quality phone that I had.. HTC sense and Android.. sense work great.. since this is my first android phone.. I can't tell much about it..I used my bro's Hero about a week. Legend is much faster.. here in US.. 3G service don't work.. but even with Edge,, it's much faster and smoother internet experience than any other phone that I had or tested.. only thing that I don't like about the hardware is the 4button key.. I wish HTC made this with capacitive touch key like the Nexus one or touch HD..
buy the Legend.. it's cheaper than Desire.. also more phone factor than Desire..
if u need super PDA+ huge phone.. buy the Desire..
LOL.. just buy either one.. u'll like it anyhow..

evank418 said:
asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?
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I have used google nexus one and legend (I dumped the nexus one in favour of the legend).
i challenge anyone to say there is a difference in speed
the 7227 is a much improved cpu over the hero/touch pro 2/diamond 2 one etc.
its not just the speed.
I think the cpu is a side issue
the real difference between these two is just the screen resolution.
my 2 cents:
1. most android apps just scale up, so actually look worse on 800x480 (no doubt will get better)
2. you can't actually browse at 800x480 on such a small screen, so its benefit is mostly in smoothing
3. 480x320 video will be smoother. very little the human will gain over 800x480 at this size and 320x480 video files will be smaller.
4. 800x480 screeen uses slightly more battery
5. lower resolutions are here to stay, e.g. HTC Tatto, Sony X10 Mini, etc. only have 240x320 !!!
In summary, whilst 800x480 would be theoretically nicer to have, it makes no difference to me at the moment. the biggest thing I wanted was amoled, which I have got.
You will LOVE the Legend. Its a keeper.

I've got the Legend, because my X10 got swiped.
(Risking OT Compared to the X10, the Legend is much smoother.
However, for me, I may consider the Desire strongly, but simply because I am using a Mac and that the WiFi teether on the Desire makes things a snap for me, especially when I am out of the office.
But otherwise, I do agree that the Legend is a keeper... maybe I'll hand it over to the wife, or to one of my kids.

legend looks super awesome in comparison to the staid desire ..

i want to thank everyone on the great informative reply. i just ordered mine at htcperida can't wait to play with this bad boy!! once again, thanks a lot everyone!!!!

Choose Galaxy S I9000 before Desire?

Hello.
I stand between Desire and Galaxy S right now, i recently had a X10i, but it has a hardware failure that my service provider arent able to fix.
So is galaxy S the best or Desire.
Galaxy has better battery life, better screen, but i've heard it has some performance trouble once in a while?
Desire has Led light and optical tracking mouse, no particularly failure..
I also thought of Iphone 4, but i think this version has to many defects?
Tnx for all replies..

-Galaxy might have GPS issue, if it is important to you, test it out before buying it (30 min walk on dence city conditions is the worst for any GPS, you'd get an idea if it goes good or bad)
-Display on SGS is the best out there, period!
-GPU (graphic unit) is the best out there, period!
-Issue with the file system (corrected with lag fix) so you'd get "lag" when using intensive read/write on SGS (large ammount of files, slight lag when installing, etc). Froyo seems to lesser the issue
-Camera quality is pretty good. HTC has the reputation of having poor camera, so even higher MP's on the cam might not mean higher quality.
-Led flashs are useless compare to Night Mode on SGS (google it for examples). So unless you want to use your phone as an expensive ligh torch, this shouldn't be an issue.

tnx for reply. anyone else have experience, maybe with both?
someone tried Iphone 4? (Calendar notes on iphone(do they show a notification))?

Desire still has multitouch bug as well that likely cannot be fixed due to hardware limitations:

I've had both. I would say Galaxy S. The lack of LED and touchpad doesnt bother me. The lag can creep in after a while but lagfix solves it pretty well.
On the other hand, Desire camera is nowhere as good as the SGS, same with the GPU...games run much smoother on the SGS and it can play 720p video. Desire struggles with HD video and some games.
Galaxy S needs some tweaking, but once thats out of the way its definitely over the Desire.

Galaxy S hands down having seen them both side by side.

Galaxy S would be great but...
If I were to buy a new phone again after experiencing all these internal issues of Galaxy.
I PERSONALLY would stay away from Galaxy S.
But that is just me.
Just do some reading here before making decision.

Get a Desire HD, or wait for Cyanogenmod.
Unfortunately, I am starting to doubt this phone increasingly every day

wait for a better phone....dont get galaxy s right now.....too many issues...you will regret it.

I own both devices.
If you want worse hardware and zero problems choose HtC Desire, it's nearly flawless and lag free. No problems with insufficient memory etc.
Galaxy s has much better screen, call quality, speaker quality, much better camera despite its lack of flash.
I prefer galaxy s as advanced user, after rooting and lag fix I'd never come back to desire.
But out of the box experience is much better in case of HTC Desire.
Afraid of rooting/flashing? Phone just has to work without xda? Choose Htc Desire.
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if its gaming your most intrested in the iphone 4 games are alot better well polished and its a whole world apart in terms of build quality. The sgs has a kind cheap feeling about it. i wouldnt get the desire but i would def get the desire hd if its available to you go for it

Having owned the Desire before the SGS I'd say the little niggles the SGS suffers from are liveable. I couldn't give up the smoothness (sure with the lagfix but meh) especially when it comes to video play back and games along with the screen it is miles better then the Desire.
Out of the box - Desire
As a phone to play around with - SGS
A phone that works... Just - iPhone
But personally Android any day for me

emms said:
if its gaming your most intrested in the iphone 4 games are alot better well polished and its a whole world apart in terms of build quality. The sgs has a kind cheap feeling about it. i wouldnt get the desire but i would def get the desire hd if its available to you go for it
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You can have plenty of "iphone" like games all over internet with the Flash...
So, unless you wan't something you can't realy fool around with and is closed, I wouldn't go with an iPhone

If you have some time and gaming is important get the galaxy s. The best would be to wait for a new phone, but its always going to be the best and you'll end up going crazy and never getting a phone.
The galaxy s to me is like an alpha romeo. Yeah it gives you **** every now and then but theres just something about it. When the phone works its just all fun, but it has its ****ty moments. Like with the gps.

I figure op would reply back to our replies??
Hope OP made a goodchoice
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Nexus S or Desire HD, need advice

so what would be a better choice thanks
i like the htc but that screen from samsung look good
what do you guys think

They are both nice devices. Here is a quick comparison I found that could be useful to you http://blog.etech.com/2011/01/20/nexus-s-vs-htc-desire-hd-review/

I prefer the Nexus S over the Desire HD primarily due to battery life. HTC as much as I love their products don't seem to place very much emphasis on a lasting battery. HTC Sense is nice feature but it does come with a small performance cost.

mysterioustko said:
I prefer the Nexus S over the Desire HD primarily due to battery life. HTC as much as I love their products don't seem to place very much emphasis on a lasting battery. HTC Sense is nice feature but it does come with a small performance cost.
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and delayed upgrades in firmware

well i have the HTC D HD this week i will try out the S and see thanks guys

Wait for galaxy s 2 releasing on may 1
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Swaped from DHD to SNS, i would never go back to DHD, love my nexus s
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I have both. The Desire HD's advantages are the big screen and more powerful browsing ability (less lag with Flash and heavy sites). Some people will also prefer the SD card slot instead of the 16MB internal storage found on the Nexus S.
However, on the Desire HD the external speaker has low volume and tinny sound, the GPS is slow to lock, and the video capture is typical HTC mediocre quality. Plus the lack of front-facing camera on the Desire HD may be important to some people.

Neither.
HTC Sensation
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-leaked-by-vodafone-4-3-inch-qhd-slcd-and-1-2ghz-d/
Fresh off the oven.

extreme22 said:
well i have the HTC D HD this week i will try out the S and see thanks guys
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Come back and post your opinions and experience. It's good to see people do head to head comparisons and find out which they prefer.
Personally, I didn't get the chance to do a direct comparison, but after playing with the Desire HD in the store, I was put off a bit. I know it has mediocre battery life, the screen/body is too big for my tastes, and I don't really care for the aluminum body. It didn't seem like much of an upgrade from my Desire. So I tried the Motorola Atrix and although it has excellent hardware, the software is just pitiful and slow (terrible for a dual-core). So I waited for the HTC Incredible S to arrive, and again I was not really impressed and felt it wasn't much of an update. That left me with the Nexus S, and to be honest I don't like the Samsung Galaxy line at all, mediocre performance and ugly UI. Yet this is a nice phone, really nice. It was all the positive reviews and comments online that swayed me...I'm glad I waited for it and so far it has been really good with great battery life. And "vanilla android" is a treat - factory unlocked, fast and consistent, and I've downloaded all the widgets I liked on the HTC phones.
I'm a happy camper with the Nexus S.

Another thing,
If you don't like Sense UI you can flash CyanogenMod on your HD. It is pretty stable.
One thing I really hated about Sense on the HD was the 5-second lag that happened whenever you delete an appointment in its calendar app.
I actually prefer my Nexus S now, no big issues to complain about yet.

Due to new events, I will recommend you wait for the Sensation

hayabbusa said:
Swaped from DHD to SNS, i would never go back to DHD, love my nexus s
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Me too
Miss Sense though;(
JD

SAMOLED display hands down, there is no competition here

Vandam500 said:
Due to new events, I will recommend you wait for the Sensation
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If you wait for another device then another better device will come around by the time you want to get it... and so on.

AllGamer said:
SAMOLED display hands down, there is no competition here
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I was actually impressed by the SLCD on the Telus Desire HD, though SAMOLED is still superior by a small margin.

Nexus s no matter what its still going get the first updates.......
And the technology under the hood ain't going out of date anytime soon

dsixda said:
I have both. The Desire HD's advantages are the big screen and more powerful browsing ability (less lag with Flash and heavy sites). Some people will also prefer the SD card slot instead of the 16MB internal storage found on the Nexus S.
However, on the Desire HD the external speaker has low volume and tinny sound, the GPS is slow to lock, and the video capture is typical HTC mediocre quality. Plus the lack of front-facing camera on the Desire HD may be important to some people.
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The browsing thing is mainly because HTC implemented Hardware acceleration to some degree, nut if you download Opera Mobile 11 from Android Market its even smoother than HTC's implementation.
And actually the Sd card thing didn't bother me at all, since i never switched Sd cards when i had my hero, and this thing has more memory too ^^

dario3040 said:
The browsing thing is mainly because HTC implemented Hardware acceleration to some degree, nut if you download Opera Mobile 11 from Android Market its even smoother than HTC's implementation.
And actually the Sd card thing didn't bother me at all, since i never switched Sd cards when i had my hero, and this thing has more memory too ^^
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Yeah I know about the hardware acceleration but I have faith that this feature will be added to the Nexus S eventually. Opera Mobile was an okay workaround but the app itself is unstable. Skyfire also works well.

Wait for galaxy s2

Is Android working perfectly on HD2 now?

I wanna buy a new device and with the money i have now i can buy either sony X10 or HD2
is android stable now on hd2 or the sony x10 which is originally based on android better?
what about the performance and the compatible apps and games?

Owned both, settled on hd2. At the moment it's a matter of personal taste. I prefer the better build quality, bigger screen size and extra RAM of HD2; x10 will give you better GPS and battery life + 720p video. Cameras are about equally vile, x10's 8mp is super noisy over 5mp anyway.
HD2's aGPS is shonky, but regular GPS is fine, you just have to wait a bit longer for your first lock.
Also, you get the iconoclastic feel good buzz with hd2, so you can lord it over the generic android crowd.
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thanks for reply
what about the android itself?
if both devices are the same specifications will android work on both with the same quality?

I can only compare my hd2 against my wife's vibrant, which is also a native android phone.
From what I can see, hd2 runs every bit of android except one shortcoming: the color depth is not as good as a native device due to the fact that android is ported, not native. Everything else is perfect
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my 0.02.
when comparing my hd2 to the atrix (att's flag **** phone) i went back to the hd2. Very little differences between them. You notice no differences in everyday use except for battery life, and gps connection speed. And its a dual core phone!
secondly, charnsingh_online is fixing the missing kernal code. which will offer more features, and fix current bugs. hes doning an amazing job.
thirdly, because sony sued geohot. I gave up on sony products for now. which is a while nother issue.
go for the hd2 and clk and you will not notice much a difference.

Lawl I find it hard to believe sony's x10 camera is as bad as the HTC camera, since sony is well known for having good cameras, and hTC producing well, "****" cameras. A bit of exaggeration yes, but we all know HTC doesn't produce the camera we want.
Anyways, yes everything is working, the x10 might be a bit snappier, but the HD2 has a variety maybe of 5x the x10 has?

is the issue with low call volume and radio fixed?

jazzaddict said:
is the issue with low call volume and radio fixed?
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yup almost everything is fixed low call volume fixed way back

I've also owned both and would take the HD2 every day of the week.
As I'm a stock nut, I've settled on tytungs Nexus V2.7 ROM and everything works.
As I see it the only thing the X10 has that an Android HD2 doesn't is the ability to charge it when its turned off (not that anyone cares about that crap.!)
I also love the hardware keys to answer & end calls.

Kailkti said:
Lawl I find it hard to believe sony's x10 camera is as bad as the HTC camera, since sony is well known for having good cameras, and hTC producing well, "****" cameras. A bit of exaggeration yes, but we all know HTC doesn't produce the camera we want.
Anyways, yes everything is working, the x10 might be a bit snappier, but the HD2 has a variety maybe of 5x the x10 has?
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I agree HTC has a history of putting horrible cameras into good phones. But the HD2's camera is actually pretty darn good. I mean it's not a photographer quality super camera or anything, but it is worlds apart from the previous 2 HTC phones I've owned (Kaiser and Rhodium). It is imo as good as you really need a cel phone camera to be

mancubus said:
I've also owned both and would take the HD2 every day of the week.
As I'm a stock nut, I've settled on tytungs Nexus V2.7 ROM and everything works.
As I see it the only thing the X10 has that an Android HD2 doesn't is the ability to charge it when its turned off (not that anyone cares about that crap.!)
I also love the hardware keys to answer & end calls.
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Actually, if you have cLK and flash CWM with Rom Manager you can charge while power off. It may not be a game changer but it is possible now and a nice feature.
(Just retested to make sure i wasn't lying)

Since i have owned both phones, i thought to put my 2¢ into this. I got my x10 in august 2010 (thats when i joined xda), it was running android 1.6 then (everyone else was on 2.2), it was laggy, the timescape and media scape didint help either and there was no way of disabling them, some of the apps weren't compatible with it but most of all you couldn't get root on it, therefore no custom roms and S.E. said they were going to update it to 2.1 and that would be it so i started to hate it, not the actual device so much as S.E. but non the less i didn't like it any longer, but i was hooked on android.
Thru some mishap (sent phone to unlock, they lose it, i get a check), i bought my beloved HD2 and i love it more and more everyday. I have been running nand android since magldr(SD builds before that) and now i'm using clk with HyperDroid BGX and it feels just like any another android phone. HD2 has come a long way to supporting android but it does now and is stable enough to use everyday. There is one thing i hate about this phone and thats the <b>glass</b> screen, it has the misfortune of breaking easily, if you drop it. 1/4 of my screen is cracked right now and thats the second time i cracked the screen.
To sum it up. Well things have changed since i had the x10 but if i had to choose between those 2 then i'd still get the HD2 any day but thats just me.

Just to clarify for those who never owned an x10. Both phones have 65k dual touch screens.
Both have pretty horrible cameras, while the x10's 8MP is ok in very bright daylight, even slightly overcast sky generates a tonne of noise. Small ccd = tiny sensors, you need to keep dropping the resolution to stop it turning into pixelated mess. The 5MP on the HTC is more consistent (lol, consistently bad tbh, but much better than HTC's other efforts from that generation), however, the smoothing software on it is pretty ****ty - it can obliterate detail if you let it. X10 has only a single flash as, opposed to HD2's dual, annoyingly you can't make it work as an ehm ... flash. Sony makes you turn it on like a torch, then turn it off after each shot manually. It gets really annoying quickly, especially since it's probably the most anaemic light source ever, you'd be better off flicking your zippo on. (This may have been fixed in custom roms. )
Bit ott, but if you want decent video, get an iPhone, sorry the inability of android to adjust volume gain means the audio is horrible and often distorted. For example if you video a band the sound track will just be a distorted mess, there's no way to adjust the gain - wtf Google? You don't need to record loud music to see that, if you hold the camera and speak loudly it will distort. (There's a hilarious posting on Samsung's website where an owner complaiins about this, and is told by tech support to put their finger over the microphone - classy.) Having said that, if you like silent movies X10's 720p shooter is pretty good when paired up with a class 4+ sd card.
Personally I found the gorilla glass display on the hd2 to feel more robust then x10's more plastic feeling effort. However the more widescreen format makes it easier to use one handed than the hd2. Downside of that is that webpages look smaller when browsing than the 4" screen size would lead you to believe. It's a very narrow screen. However X10's smaller screen plus higher resolution makes text visibly crisper and easier to read at small sizes. Not quite iPhone 4, but pretty close.
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just wondering which radio version do you recommend for Australian users? I read somewhere certain radio version can cause high battery drain and poor reception? And does the T-mobile HD2 works well on vodafone/3 network, I mean are there any issue when roaming on Telstra network?

I recommend radio ROM 2.12 for australian users, I used 2.15 for ages and had loads of data issues, but 2.12 is perfect. No complaints at all. Don't know about TMOUS in australia though

HD2 is better
Well HD2's Android capability is same as any stock Android phone (or even better sometimes). Also I like the HD2's design better than the X10. X10 is bulky.

appreciate if somebody would tell me the hardware differences between difference HD2 models? According to Wikipedia, T-mobile T8585 900/2100 comes with 1GB ROM and 576 RAM, slightly different dimension and lighter?

consolation said:
Just to clarify for those who never owned an x10. Both phones have 65k dual touch screens.
Both have pretty horrible cameras, while the x10's 8MP is ok in very bright daylight, even slightly overcast sky generates a tonne of noise. Small ccd = tiny sensors, you need to keep dropping the resolution to stop it turning into pixelated mess. The 5MP on the HTC is more consistent (lol, consistently bad tbh, but much better than HTC's other efforts from that generation), however, the smoothing software on it is pretty ****ty - it can obliterate detail if you let it. X10 has only a single flash as, opposed to HD2's dual, annoyingly you can't make it work as an ehm ... flash. Sony makes you turn it on like a torch, then turn it off after each shot manually. It gets really annoying quickly, especially since it's probably the most anaemic light source ever, you'd be better off flicking your zippo on. (This may have been fixed in custom roms. )
Bit ott, but if you want decent video, get an iPhone, sorry the inability of android to adjust volume gain means the audio is horrible and often distorted. For example if you video a band the sound track will just be a distorted mess, there's no way to adjust the gain - wtf Google? You don't need to record loud music to see that, if you hold the camera and speak loudly it will distort. (There's a hilarious posting on Samsung's website where an owner complaiins about this, and is told by tech support to put their finger over the microphone - classy.) Having said that, if you like silent movies X10's 720p shooter is pretty good when paired up with a class 4+ sd card.
Personally I found the gorilla glass display on the hd2 to feel more robust then x10's more plastic feeling effort. However the more widescreen format makes it easier to use one handed than the hd2. Downside of that is that webpages look smaller when browsing than the 4" screen size would lead you to believe. It's a very narrow screen. However X10's smaller screen plus higher resolution makes text visibly crisper and easier to read at small sizes. Not quite iPhone 4, but pretty close.
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No gorilla glass on hd2 mate...
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actually it looks like You were right... but it gets scratched easily with even grain of sand, so...

HD2
For me HD2's better, in looks and quality. Android runs just as well as any native, but it depends a lot on the android build you choose.

The biggest advantage IMHO is the extra ram, 576 v. 384 for x10. It's a problem with x10 if you have a few big apps. For example, when I use copilot nav and have music playing in the car, hd2 remains smooth and has no problem launching other apps without launcher closing. X10, (while not as bad as something like Droid / milestone/magic 3g) will have to unload the launcher and will usually stop playback when another app is launched. Tbh, I never had the hd2 have a memory issue, you can even play a reasonably grunty game without your other apps unloading. Gun Bros comes to mind.
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so far....would you change your desire HD for a motorola Atrix?

hello comunity, a friend of mine is insisting in changing me his atrix for my desire hd... my phone is in perfect conditions, i am very happy with my phone because it a great support, and the big screen is something i love, i like how it takes the pictures, and my battery life has been ending from the morning to the night with 20% left...
the plus of the atrix is that it has FFC, its dual core, QHD screen, fingerprint unlocker, and bigger battery, but it has a smaller screen, and the UI is so ugly, i dont know hows the camera, and how it performs with the games...
so what do you thin guys... is it a good deal or should i keep my DHD?

in case of UI, that is not a problem. you can always install a custom AOSP rom or a second launcher and modify your system to your wish. Small screen is only concern. I wouldn't change my DHD for anything with smaller screen. Actually only phone I would be able to change my DHD for is Samsung Galaxy Note, which I'm getting in January

But in performance do you guys think atrix is better than DHD..? Maybe with ics coming? And what about camera?
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Heard the atrix has okay specs, but I love my inspire/dhd. love it so much I got 2, the inspire and a euro DHD w/ a dead TS . Like that I have more ram then the atrix and looove the solid build that HTC does. If they made this phone a duel core, shot in 1080p, bumbed the 8mpx to atleast 10-12mpx, changed the lcd screen to something more crisp and kills apples retna display then I'd be even more happier and never change this phone
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Motorola? NEVER!

I have both of these phones. I gotta say, the atrix is a better phone. It has way more power, battery lasts me two days using Homebase rom and I love the lapdock. Fingerprint scanner is also awesome. Games like Shadowgun run perfect on it. DHD has a way bigger developing community though and I do like sense. I currently am using runnydroid on my dhd and can barely make a day on the battery. I did just calibrate it last night though, so we'll see how today goes.

Atrix also has the option for a docking station.
I know it sounds a bit mad but for business users this could be a great advantage.
I can get my Windows work desktop to appear on the DHD but if only there was a way to hook up and external monitor and use a bluetooth kb and mouse. I could then ditch all other devices and only have my DHD for everything.
I think the DHD is perfect other than this (battery capacity maybe too) .

no still loving my DHD until 4 core processor release...

maybe i would, given its amazing battery life and the HD dock... pretty neat features. The quality of the phone is also superb. Motorola makes the most solid phones( hardly surprising given its expertise).
BUT BUT BUT.
their after-sales support fails, outside of the USA. ( if you want to keep it stock ROM,unrooted )
and despite grand claims by nvidia, tegra 2 kinda sucks. No neon instruction support and guess what, MOST HD mp4 videos cant be played(some 480p videos too) unless you re-encode the video/use rock player(may be choppy).
Pretty irritating for me given that i love watching videos.

Well I have just gone the other way Atrix back to DHD.
For music with poweramp Atrix is a fab machine beats the DHD.
Battery life too.
Screen looks better on DHD & it's batter to use.
The Atrix is over rated & the software is kak. Not that many Roms out there either.
I'd avoid the Atrix, or any Motokak handset.
It's your choice but I had Atrix for 3 months & got shut & glad I did so

Don't even mention MOTOROLA. I had the worst experience with motorola services. I own a motorola defy and it's been an year since motorola announced FROYO for my eu phone but it's been more than a year and they are still rolling out. I highly doubt if they're even working on it now but it never came...
And why atrix? you've got droid bionic, you've got RAZR so why atrix....but don't even consider buying motorola. You'll have to survive on custom roms...

I like my DHD, and i don't want motorola

Just ask yourself a question: if Atrix is better than DHD, then why does your friend insist in the exchange?
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