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i cant get the video playback much past 500kb/s +/- 100kb/s (which is ****), and im running at 264mhz.
this is only about half the speed of normal mobile video bitrates. i dont think the limiting factor is miniSD card speed, cuz i got the same benchmarks from mp4s played off the internal storage.
i know i can encode video to fit the wizard and that works fine for most purpose, but i also want to have streaming video podcasts that come straight to the phone. fiddling with the settings on tcpmp didnt really help... vlc might do the trick, but vlc menus are intolerably slow for me
anyone have had the same problem? any ideas/suggestions? ill surely be puzzling over this...
Try TCPMP (freeware) don't forget to install plugins too. Google for it :wink:
I think he is using tcpmp
Well overclocking and using TCPMP is the best you can get for video playback. However, i could be something with the codecs being used. I see this on PC's all the time, the the codecs dont quite match, playback can stutter etc.
Other than that, maybe a slicker ROM might help but it's a unlikely and a bit drastic..
yeah i have a similar problem. I have encoded episodes of simpsons, family guy and south park into 3gp format. each one is about 25mb in size, and of average quality. when i start playing them back, they're fine for the first 8 - 9 minutes, but EVERY time at about 9 minutes in, the picture starts stuttering slightly, its not too bad, but quite annoying, even overlocked at 240mhz it still does it so i knwo its not the processor speed ? any ideas ??
[quote="bendog2784" ]I think he is using tcpmp[/quote]
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I have used core player flawlessy with 1.43 rom. I have tried various hi-res/hi-bitrate videos and it worked amazingly great.
Then I have upgraded to 1.48.
Now the same videos run really choppy.
I wonder what was changed...
On wmp videos still play good... but unfortunately it doesn't read divx/xvid s.
Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
Are you sure you use the same settings ? For me 'Raw frame buffer' seems to be the fastest.
Actually since I got 1.48 TCPMP doesn't run anymore. It crashes and tells me to send crash.txt to the developers, but I can't find crash.txt. Strange.
Actually since I got 1.48 TCPMP doesn't run anymore. It crashes and tells me to send crash.txt to the developers, but I can't find crash.txt. Strange.
Yes... same settings.
Anyway it seems related to the audio not the video.
Playing videos with no audio results in perfect playback.
I haven't changed anything. I wonder why this happends.
Hi,
I've experienced similar, although since I've today re-re-set my device today and installed from scratch etc (and with a now pucka purchased copy of Coreplayer v1.3.6) it seems to be ok.
Nothing scientific here: tried it on 1.43 and it seemed to be ok, pretty sure zero dropped frames (though could be wrong).. tried it on 1.48 and exactly the same xvids unwatchable.. now re-done it and again the same xvids = seem fine, stats show a few frames dropping but all in all it's perfectly watchable to the human eye.
Not sure if this helps you at all - perhaps you might get better response in one of the two other Coreplayer threads on here running? Just an idea - good luck!
Man, i got this same problem. I've tried everything with coreplayer, all different settings, plane mode. Still drops on playing films.
I even convereted to mp4 and it still drops. I know it's coreplayer problem because the htc player and windows media play the mp4's fine.
The only video i've seen it play without drops is a low quality 3gp file.
I even tried different versions of core player but still the same results. I'm on rom 1.48 so maybe this is the problem, but i doubt it. I'm updating to 1.66 soon so we will see......
For the lazy reader:
Your HD2 probably suffers from an audio lag using the default media players. This is evident in the transformers movies and many other videos. You just may not have noticed it for a variety of reasons. There is no fix yet.
Coreplayer/TCPMP are not solutions, since they defeat the purpose of proper HW scaling and decoding for battery life/processor utilization. They also render the video improperly (bad scaling, colorspaces, etc), and Coreplayer doesn't even support AAC+ (HE-AAC) audio.
BACKSTORY
The first day I got my HD2 from TMOUS, I noticed that the included Transformers videos suffered from what appeared to be close to a 250ms audio delay. Sure enough, the problem was universal to all video files unless an artificial delay is introduced into the transcoding process. This means that every video file placed on the device will play back with the audio playing up to 250ms (about 1/4 second) late. This turned out to be a very common problem with the HTC HD2 and many devices seem to suffer from it (including some other HTC devices mentioned in this thread), particularly in video playback. This is a not a placebo effect and is very noticeable--in some videos/scenes more than others due to video pacing.
Before you post to say "Mine doesn't seem to do it," read the following and check again just in case--you'll be surprised. As I mention below, to some people with untrained eyes, even a 250ms delay (about 1/4 second) isn't very noticeable, and without careful attention, the mind can sometimes be tricked into thinking the delay somehow "isn't real." The proof? Testimony of many members (read this thread), and of course: Here's a video of me playing the new test clip below.
This problem is well known and is often referred to as a "video sync" or "lip sync" problem. All seem to describe this problem in which the audio ends up getting significantly delayed.
STATUS
A list summarizing the current understanding of the situation.
1. The audio lag is up to 250ms (100-250ms) for ANY a/v stream. Please understand that the duration of 250ms is 1/4 of a single second; in some slow scenes (or even slow speech), this problem is very difficult to detect. However, in any very fast scenes or speech, it should become strikingly and painfully apparent to even the most callous of observers.
2. It does appear that a minority of HD2 users insist they are completely unaffected by the problem, and they are very vocal about it. This does introduce the possibility that, in fact, contrary to all common sense, there may be differences in HD2 hardware that are quite elusive. Alternatively, there is some yet-undiscovered combination of settings, roms, and drivers in which this problem disappears. More likely in many cases is the possibility that the issue is simply difficult to spot in some people's chosen sample footage.
3. HTC has acknowledged the problem in some form but is doing nothing about it, either because of development cost (software issue) or hardware issues. Again, there is also the possibility that there are other factors tying the company's hands.
4. In theoretical terms, the class 2 SD card read speed is more than sufficient to maintain sustained data flow of, for instance, a 300kbps audio/video stream. However, the delay issue persists even with the smallest of encodes, and even when the files are placed in the phone's built-in memory.
5. The Snapdragon chipset itself has been repeatedly implicated as being the culprit behind the A/V delay. Other potential candidates include driver issues, ROM issues, and/or general software issues on the part of HTC.
6. It is absolutely not a codec issue. This is not speculation or conjecture, but certainty. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support this, including the use of different players and encoders that produce valid streams--which play back perfectly in sync on any other computer or device. If there is any software you are using that you claim "doesn't get lag," you either do not experience lag/delay issues on your device, or the software is introducing opposite audio delay to compensate, which isn't a solution at all. The latter is known to occur with some community-produced frontends specifically for the HD2 as a crude workaround for this issue. However, it is hardly necessary to stress that the dilemma of not only re-encoding every existing media file for the HD2, but also the obvious lunacy of producing invalid files specifically so this device can read them.
7. The issue is ROM-independent. Cooked and stocked ROMs produce identical results. However, some users report a slight decrease in delay when they disable processor scaling (i.e. lock the device near 1ghz).
WHAT YOU CAN DO
First, decisively determine whether or not your device has this problem, which a large number of HD2 units seem to have. To test this, play this video (or others mentioned in this thread) on your HD2 in Windows Media Player or the HTC Video Player. Also try the included Transformers movie if you have a TMOUS unit. If you have any other media players on the device, you may also play these clips in those players with default settings. Note that all of these files are properly encoded and exhibit no audio lag when played using a computer or other device (including the original HTC HD). Report your findings, along with your OS version, ROM version, radio version, and model of HD2 (i.e. TMOUS or "European"). Also indicate your purchase date or, if known, the date of manufacture.
Secondly, once you've confirmed you have the issue, contact HTC and issue a report/complaint (in other words, request that they fix the problem). To support your complaint, you may refer to some of the ticket numbers at the bottom of this post, which are relevant to this issue. Once your complaint is filed, post the complaint ticket number here. It is crucial that HTC understands the prevalence of this problem or they will not fix it.
Finally, propose a solution (optional). If you manage to change device settings or install software/drivers/tweaks to eliminate the issue device-wide without destroying the file's actual synchronization (i.e. it remains in sync on the computer, other devices, etc), please post what you did! Please, no touting random 3rd party "converters" unless you understand the approach used by these to escape this sync/lag issue.
Ticket numbers (HTC Support)
10GBCW02ENA001052
10GBCW12ENA000301
10USCW13ENA001524
10GBCW12ENA000421
10AUCW15ENA000117
10GBCW13ENA000299
10ZACW16ENA000014 (HTC's acknowledgment)
Further Reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617163
Another test video. This was the default test clip until I replaced it with my own above.
Sorry, George, its not everybody's doesn't do it. Seriously, no matter what you may think of my mind, etc. mine doesn't seem to do it.
I'm not trying to say the problem is non-existent, you might be right. I didn't investigate enough.
But to give my 2 cents; I am very familiar with video encoding, digital audio and video and everything related. On a PC or on a TV i have an eagles eye (ear) for spotting sync problems. But I haven't noticed a sync problem on my HD2 whatsoever after having watched several movies on it... and 250ms should be very, VERY noticeable. Just 20ms usually catches my attention right away.
barty22 said:
I'm not trying to say the problem is non-existent, you might be right. I didn't investigate enough.
But to give my 2 cents; I am very familiar with video encoding, digital audio and video and everything related. On a PC or on a TV i have an eagles eye (ear) for spotting sync problems. But I haven't noticed a sync problem on my HD2 whatsoever after having watched several movies on it... and 250ms should be very, VERY noticeable. Just 20ms usually catches my attention right away.
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I'm also very familiar with encoding. I also notice stuttering problems in the video I play, in addition to sync issues (even baseline AVC with 1 ref, bitrate capped at 1000kbps, LC-AAC audio at 64kbps). This problem was even present on the included Transformers movies (the same movies play fine on the PC-- but with the exact same sync issue on coreplayer and TCPMP on the HD2).
Do you have the TMOUS device? What radio and ROM version are you using?
One other interesting thing I noticed. When the volume is turned down to 0, the choppiness present in some videos or situations dissappears, and when the audio is turned back up the choppiness comes back (tried in HTC Media Player).
This might relate directly to the sync issues I'm experiencing. What if there's a problem with the audio module or chipset rendering in general?
Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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Changed; happy yet? And I'm not so sure it's as "misleading" as you think. I've seen more with the issues than without. If it occurs on all the included videos and apps, I think it's safe enough to say it's a problem with all of them.
If you don't think your device has it, feel free to post to the contrary. It would help to specify what version of the device you're using.
Based on the responses I'm getting, the problem seems constrained to the new 1024 Leo units (the TMOUS devices). If you have such a device and don't have this problem, I (and many others here who complain about the sync--it's not just me) would love to know about it.
A little less arrogance, please.
no audio issues here either... TMOUS stock using CorePlayer in GDI
To OP
I have TMOUS hd2 with stock rom, since I read this thread, I watched Transformers couple times using built-in player and Core player, but I did not notice any audio lag.
You said 250ms audio lag, what programs you used to measure this number, how you measure audio lag in game? Karaoke game?
Thanks
The lag is measured qualitatively; I adjust the skew until I find that there is no more lip sync issues on the video files (basically I change the delay until the audio matches exactly with what's being shown). Then I observe that this audio delay is the same in all videos (including the stock). Then I notice that games are a bit delayed; since the 250ms appears to hold for all of the videos I've tried (the audio delay was set by an mp4 container flag), I simply assumed that the lag that is observable in games is the same; it appears to be the same magnitude, at least.
I noticed it in the Transformer movie as well. (This is probably the first time I played it and paid attention.)
TCPMP can't handle the Transformers movies. I can't notice any lag while playing another video file I had on my sd card. The quality is much lower, compared to Transformers.
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I simply assumed that the lag that is observable in games is the same;
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You know what they say about assumption ay? lol
See second post on in this page.
TCPMP solved my problems (Audio sync in videos, I don't have any delay at all in apps etc though).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617423&page=11
Don't know if that will help you out for your videos?
aceo07 said:
TCPMP can't handle the Transformers movies.
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TCPMP runs 2.5 - 3 hour action films fine for me.
I've experienced no audio sync issues in the couple included games I've played with (all but Prince of Persia) nor any in the videos I've played (both Transformers and a couple other mp4's I've encoded with CloneDVDMobile). I'm not a big fan of games on these though, but the video capabilities have been THOROUGHLY tested on my unit. Oh, and all of this has been played from the supplied 16GB card and two 8GB cards (both made by Kingston) which I already had. I've played the videos using both the included "Video Player" and TCPMP (took a little work to get MPEG2s to play decently though).
Stock T-Mo US --NOT HardSPL or flashed yet.
OS: 5.2.21889.5.0.87
Manila ver: 2.5.20121412.1
ROM ver: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
ROM date: 02/22/10
Radio ver: 2.08.50.08_2
Protocol ver: 15.34.50.07U
I have reformatted the memory card and only replaced what I still wanted that was originally on it. I have not hard reset at all.
The only app I have installed which might affect performance is BsB Tweaks, and the only settings I've adjusted are: Power Saving - OFF; Hidden Camera Modes - ON; Camera 8MP - ON; and Wifi N - ON (I was curious about what this does, but it's not something I need.. I'm turning it off now, now that I'm thinking on it).
To those of you experiencing these issues: Are you only seeing this problem with games? Or is it affecting movies too?
HTC_Junglist said:
TCPMP runs 2.5 - 3 hour action films fine for me.
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I did not say that TCPMP couldn't handle long films. It was very specific to the Transformer movies. More specifically, I meant the exact Transformer movie files that came with the US T-Mobile HD2. TCPMP was not able to play those Transformer movie files smoothly.
However I do notice the audio lag in the default movie player it uses to the Transformers movies. The video is smooth, but the audio is lagged a little.
I am experiencing the exact delay that is being reported.
All you have to do is actually watch a few minutes of Transformers. Its really annoying.
aceo07 said:
I did not say that TCPMP couldn't handle long films. It was very specific to the Transformer movies. More specifically, I meant the exact Transformer movie files that came with the US T-Mobile HD2. TCPMP was not able to play those Transformer movie files smoothly.
However I do notice the audio lag in the default movie player it uses to the Transformers movies. The video is smooth, but the audio is lagged a little.
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No you just said "The Transformers movies", I have 2 transformer movies & TCPMP plays them both fine. They did not come with the handset like yours though, but they are both high quality of 2.5gb each (Don't know how big the issued ones are, I'm in UK here so we didn't get them).
So maybe it's an issue with the way they were encoded too as well as a hardware issue.
i don't have such an issue with mine... games and movies play fine... maybe you have slower ear sensors or faster vision lol .... and I am curious why do you advertise this in your signature?????? if you were writing in a sports forum and had some disability, would you write that down in your signature as well??
i have this same problem. I loaded my favorite alert sounds from my previous phone. They all get a half second to a second chopped off. So do my ring tones. I have not seen a fix for this on any board yet. You are not crazy.
DialecticThought said:
Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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It's not actually the first time, there was a thread running for a few days not so long ago about the same issue. And as far as I can ascertain, most, if not all HD2's are plagued with this issue.
I have a TmoUS HD2 and I haven't noticed any delay in sound.
Alright here's the deal, I got my HD2 when T-Mo had their sale on the 19th, so I'm pretty new. I've searched the forums, and I found several threads on the audio/video sync issue, but they don't help me too much with the problem I have. I used Red Kawa video conversion software to convert my MKV files to MP4, and while most people were saying the HD2 is the cause of the delay, I will note here that my videos were out of sync before I ever transferred them to the phone, so I had to delay them from the get-go. That's not my problem though. Now that I have about 10 videos in the correct format for the phone (800x480, video 1024kbps, audio 192kbps, -200ms delay) once I actually place them on the storage card and play them, they look fantastic until 7 minutes into any movie I play and the phone freaks out. Regardless of whether I'm in Album or WMP, and TCPMP won't play them hardly at all. I also can't use the slider to select any part of any video or the same thing happens, complete freakout. It's the weirdest thing, and there are videos I put on the phone without the delay that worked fine 2 days ago, but these mess up like clockwork EXACTLY 7 minutes in! Any advice here would be much appreciated. I haven't used Windows Mobile since the 2003 version, so I'm new to a lot of it.
Just wanted to add that the videos play perfectly on my computer, and I can use the slider on here to change spots...
Whoops! I thought I had both Anamorphic and Widescreen profiles set up the same, turns out one was on the Baseline Profile and another was on the Main Profile. As a result Anamorphic (Main) movies play fine, they're still not really slideable, but they don't jack up at 7 minutes.
Hi all. I'm a long time lurker and 1st time poster. Having been a long time WinMo user (O2 xda2 mini -> HTC Tytn II -> HTC HD -> HTC HD2), I finally made the switch to Android with the Galaxy S (16GB, baseband version I9000ZSJF7) last week. I bought the phone mainly because of the fantastic looking screen and (supposedly) out-of-the-box FLAC playback. With much anticipation, I went to buy a pair of Westone 3 yesterday. Unfortunately, things didn't work out as planned as it seems like FLAC playback is broken on Samsung's Music Player that came with the phone. It seems like the Music Player is unable to finish playing a track w/o crapping out, and it would appear to crap out at the same location of the track every time it is played. When that happens, the music would stop with a popup saying that the Music Player has stopped unexpectedly, and I'm told to force close the application. Some of the things I've tried include:
1. Moving the FLAC from the microSD to internal storage. Same issue.
2. Installing andLess which would give me an "initialization error" whenever I play a FLAC file, regardless of whether "direct h/w access" (performed power cycle after change) is enabled or not.
3. Installing Meridian Player which simply fails to play any FLAC file.
The same FLAC files have always been fine on my HTPC (foobar2000), and appears to be working on the HD2 (CorePlayer). Also, I was able to replicate this FLAC playback issue on my friend's Galaxy S with the default Music Player and same basedband version as mine.
Has anyone successfully played your FLAC on your Galaxy S? What kind of software/setting do you use?
It'd be much appreciated if you guys can enlighten me! Thanks.
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Hi all. I'm a long time lurker and 1st time poster. Having been a long time WinMo user (O2 xda2 mini -> HTC Tytn II -> HTC HD -> HTC HD2), I finally made the switch to Android with the Galaxy S (16GB, baseband version I9000ZSJF7) last week. I bought the phone mainly because of the fantastic looking screen and (supposedly) out-of-the-box FLAC playback. With much anticipation, I went to buy a pair of Westone 3 yesterday. Unfortunately, things didn't work out as planned as it seems like FLAC playback is broken on Samsung's Music Player that came with the phone. It seems like the Music Player is unable to finish playing a track w/o crapping out, and it would appear to crap out at the same location of the track every time it is played. When that happens, the music would stop with a popup saying that the Music Player has stopped unexpectedly, and I'm told to force close the application. Some of the things I've tried include:
1. Moving the FLAC from the microSD to internal storage. Same issue.
2. Installing andLess which would give me an "initialization error" whenever I play a FLAC file, regardless of whether "direct h/w access" (performed power cycle after change) is enabled or not.
3. Installing Meridian Player which simply fails to play any FLAC file.
The same FLAC files have always been fine on my HTPC (foobar2000), and appears to be working on the HD2 (CorePlayer). Also, I was able to replicate this FLAC playback issue on my friend's Galaxy S with the default Music Player and same basedband version as mine.
Has anyone successfully played your FLAC on your Galaxy S? What kind of software/setting do you use?
It'd be much appreciated if you guys can enlighten me! Thanks.
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No problem with tested 43.79M 5:01/5:01 flac song.
Hi Dexter, thanks for your response. I guess you must be using the stock Samsung Music Player? I suspect that the FLAC playback issue I'm having is related to the stock ZSJF7 ROM. This same issue can be replicated on my friend's phone with the same ROM and I couldn't seem to find another person having this problem after some Googling. Maybe I should bring the phone back to Sammy's service center for them to have a look at it.
Haven't had any issues myself.
Been playing Tupac's All Eyez On Me album (2CDs/27 tracks of epic lossless ).
Tested on a few firmwares - JF1, JFB, JFF, and now JG1.
I have had music player crash once though (when I was downloading about 5 items at once.. and running a bunch of apps in the background, phone mega lagged and crashed lol)
The fact thats crashing on the same spot suggests to me that it might be a problem with your files, ie. they might be corrupt. I'm not a flac expert thought, but I've had similar issues with MP3s that are corrupt or imperfectly conforming to the MP3 standard, where some players would play and some wouldnt.
IIRC mixzing player might be able to play flac (free version can be downloaded from market)
oswade said:
Haven't had any issues myself.
Been playing Tupac's All Eyez On Me album (2CDs/27 tracks of epic lossless ).
Tested on a few firmwares - JF1, JFB, JFF, and now JG1.
I have had music player crash once though (when I was downloading about 5 items at once.. and running a bunch of apps in the background, phone mega lagged and crashed lol)
The fact thats crashing on the same spot suggests to me that it might be a problem with your files, ie. they might be corrupt. I'm not a flac expert thought, but I've had similar issues with MP3s that are corrupt or imperfectly conforming to the MP3 standard, where some players would play and some wouldnt.
IIRC mixzing player might be able to play flac (free version can be downloaded from market)
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Thanks for your response. Are you using the default Samsung Music Player?
I initially thought that my FLAC files were to blame but I have run into the same playback issue with every single FLAC I've tried so far while playback of the same files is absolutely fine on the HTPC. I'll try to play these files directly from the microSD card when I get home. Another thing is that my friend was playing his own FLAC on his Galaxy S and we still run into the same issue on different phones. I think it's a bit unlikely that we both have corrupted FLAC that would otherwise play without issues elsewhere. As for andLess and Meridian Player, they simply won't work at all so the primary suspect would appear to be the Hong Kong ROM that we both have. As far as I know, andLess and Meridian don't require rooting, no (my phone isn't rooted)?
Anyway, I'll bring the phone to the service center and see what do they have to say about this.
No problems playing FLACs here with standard Samsung Music-player, on XXJF3.
Except, it doesn't read the ID3-tags, so they all appear as unknown artist - which is quite bothersome.
yes, using default samsung player.
Like I said, I think there are some free players which can play flac, like mixzing if i remember correctly. You should try them
You said they all freeze at the same spot right... what spot is that?
Are you getting all your flacs from the same source/software? Are all the files the same length? Surely if say.. they all freeze at 1min mark, can you try a 59second song cut?
I'm a little skeptical I guess... it sounds more like software problem than a hardware issue.
I'd flash to a newer firmware if I was you, but I understand if you don't want to flash (the risks + data loss etc).
..been playing FLAC on my unit from when it was on stock firmware and now JG1.. no issues whatsoever.. yup, using the default player.
..weird that you are having issues on playing flac files.. it might be the case that the file is corrupted during transfer.. but i might be wrong.
..providing the details of the flac file here would help other experienced users assist you with your case.. just a friendly advise.
Many thanks for the replies. I was at the Samsung service center earlier & their suggestion to me was use MP3 instead as FLAC takes up too much space & requires too much processing power! I don't buy that bs and I wouldn't think that's an ideal solution. The dude then "hinted" at installing a custom ROM or wait for the 2.2 update. Wow...
I've installed Mixzing which has FLAC support but unfortunately same issue as before. My FLAC collection consists of *cough* d/l'ed stuff and a few EAC rip of my CDs. What kind of FLAC info can I post? Anyway, I'll try to rip a few more CDs when I get the chance. Btw, does Android have native FAT32 support for microSD?
I know I need to make sure the FLACs aren't corrupted but I'm inclined to think this is an issue with the Hong Kong ROM which me and my friend has. And it seems like no one else is experiencing this issue! I know a third person who has this phone so perhaps I can try to verify with him also.
Thanks once again and I shall report back with any new findings.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
edit: the playback would crap out at the different points for different track but always the same point for the same track. So I suppose that would indicate that something is wrong with the FLACs themselves.
What happens if you put the flac files wich are on the phone back on the pc and play them with an other device? That way you can at least determin if the fault may lie in the transfer of the files? I had some avi's corrupting while putting them on the phone, reinstalling the usb drivers (and kies) fixed that for me
Ok, I took the microSD card out and played the FLACs directly from my HTPC with foobar2000. Just to make sure, I'm also playing the FLACs now directly from the microSD card on my work laptop with Winamp as the player. I didn't encounter any problem when playing these FLACs from the HTPC and the laptop with two different players so I am quite confident that the files and the microSD card are fine. I think I've also mentioned before that I have already tried to play the same FLACs on the microSD card with CorePlayer on my HTC HD2 w/o any issues.
During the encounter with a certain "individual" yesterday, he has suggested that the Samsung Music Player was poorly written and was maxing out the CPU when I try to play a FLAC on the phone. That was contrary to my knowledge as I don't think FLAC decoding is something that the Hummingbird with 512MB of RAM can't handle. So I loaded TaskManager which seems to indicate that the Music Player was at most using 3% of the CPU while playing a FLAC.
So, from what I have gathered so far:
1. AFAIK, this FLAC playback issue has only appeared on 3 phones (mine, my friend's, and the Samsung tech's) all with stock Hong Kong ROM. No one else with other ROMs seem to have this issue I'm currently experiencing.
2. The same issue shows up on 3 different players I've tried on the Galaxy S.
3. I have used the same microSD card and successfully played the same FLACs on my HTPC, laptop and HTC HD2 with no issue at all.
4. The Sammy tech seems to have acknowledged that there's an issue with FLAC playback on our phones, but doesn't seem to be in a position to do anything to fix this.
Do you guys reckon this issue is caused by the HK ROM? I'm ready to flash to a different ROM (preferably with Chinese handwriting input as I occasionally use that). If flashing is indeed necessary, where can I get some step-by-step guide and more info on ROM selection?
ps. As a thing that's somewhat unrelated to my problem, I want to say that there is massive difference in sound quality between the different players. I was at my friend's place testing the Galaxy S with his two monoblock tube amps hooked up to a pair of B&W 804s. We tried the default Sammy Music Player, Mixzing and some Chinese music player app which the certain "individual" advised me to try. It turns out that the Sammy player sounded the best while there was a very noticeable drop in sound quality with Mixzing. Now how that difference in SQ translates into earphone application is I guess an entirely different story.
After the test, my friend concluded that the SQ of the Sammy player was so close to his HTPC (his main audio source equipped with an X-Fi XtremeMusic) that he is now seriously considering a Wavelength USB DAC to replace the X-Fi...
EDIT: Just found this thread on ROM flashing. Now I gotta find a ROM that fits my requirements.
No idea if a ROM flash would fix it, but since it doesnt seem to be hardware related AND the only correspondence in ROM's wich give this problem are the HK ones, I would say its at least worth considering.
Well, I ended up flashing to a South East Asian DXJF4 ROM and guess what? I've gone through 4 or 5 FLACs with no problem! So the problem is definitely caused by something on the HK ROM. I guess I should report this finding to Samsung so that they won't screw up the 2.2 HK ROM.
I went with a SEA ROM hoping I can get decent Chinese handwriting input with it. Unfortunately, it uses a different Chinese input from the HK ROM and I'm having a tough time to even write my own name lol. Another thing is I still can't get the Music Player to recognize WAV files
Oh well, at least I've got FLAC playback sorted out and that's the more important thing...
I also have a HK SGS and am having problems with flac files, sometimes they stop, sometimes they skip to the next song.
I have a UK SGS which started out on JF3 and is now on JG3. I've got one particular FLAC track that stops a couple of minutes in and i have to bump it forward 30 seconds or so and it then caries on. Other than that i've not noticed a problem with FLAC playback on the stock music player.
I'm a bit late to this thread but I've had the same problem as the OP when on ZSJF7 firmware. Had to revert to DXJF4.
paul_73_uk said:
I have a UK SGS which started out on JF3 and is now on JG3. I've got one particular FLAC track that stops a couple of minutes in and i have to bump it forward 30 seconds or so and it then caries on. Other than that i've not noticed a problem with FLAC playback on the stock music player.
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I have several tracks that do this as well - doesn't matter which firmware the phone's running on (haven't tried JG5 yet). There's no problem with MP3 playback.
Westone 3's??? Nice OP
btw i saw on another forum a similar issue of FLAC tags not being read. Has anybody found a solution to that, cuz that sucks big time, having hundreds of files in "UNKNOWN" is a real pain. I'll keep looking.
Will.1 said:
Westone 3's??? Nice OP
btw i saw on another forum a similar issue of FLAC tags not being read. Has anybody found a solution to that, cuz that sucks big time, having hundreds of files in "UNKNOWN" is a real pain. I'll keep looking.
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I have a problem with the FLAC tags, I have the Korean Galaxy S SHW-m110s I haven't tried to reupload since getting to firmware updates. I did dl flac tag conversion software that mostly improved this, but for whatever reason the last letter cut off and now I've just thought of also adding a space after the last letter...hmm...anyways...I'll put new FLAC on the phone and hope there is a better answer to this.
alovell83 said:
I did dl flac tag conversion software that mostly improved this, but for whatever reason the last letter cut off and now I've just thought of also adding a space after the last letter...hmm...anyways...I'll put new FLAC on the phone and hope there is a better answer to this.
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Where'd you download the conversion software from? Even if the last letter's cut off it's better than nothing
The FLAC problem seems fixed in the latest offical ZSJG4 firmware from Kies. I already listened for 8 flac songs without stop or program crash.