For the lazy reader:
Your HD2 probably suffers from an audio lag using the default media players. This is evident in the transformers movies and many other videos. You just may not have noticed it for a variety of reasons. There is no fix yet.
Coreplayer/TCPMP are not solutions, since they defeat the purpose of proper HW scaling and decoding for battery life/processor utilization. They also render the video improperly (bad scaling, colorspaces, etc), and Coreplayer doesn't even support AAC+ (HE-AAC) audio.
BACKSTORY
The first day I got my HD2 from TMOUS, I noticed that the included Transformers videos suffered from what appeared to be close to a 250ms audio delay. Sure enough, the problem was universal to all video files unless an artificial delay is introduced into the transcoding process. This means that every video file placed on the device will play back with the audio playing up to 250ms (about 1/4 second) late. This turned out to be a very common problem with the HTC HD2 and many devices seem to suffer from it (including some other HTC devices mentioned in this thread), particularly in video playback. This is a not a placebo effect and is very noticeable--in some videos/scenes more than others due to video pacing.
Before you post to say "Mine doesn't seem to do it," read the following and check again just in case--you'll be surprised. As I mention below, to some people with untrained eyes, even a 250ms delay (about 1/4 second) isn't very noticeable, and without careful attention, the mind can sometimes be tricked into thinking the delay somehow "isn't real." The proof? Testimony of many members (read this thread), and of course: Here's a video of me playing the new test clip below.
This problem is well known and is often referred to as a "video sync" or "lip sync" problem. All seem to describe this problem in which the audio ends up getting significantly delayed.
STATUS
A list summarizing the current understanding of the situation.
1. The audio lag is up to 250ms (100-250ms) for ANY a/v stream. Please understand that the duration of 250ms is 1/4 of a single second; in some slow scenes (or even slow speech), this problem is very difficult to detect. However, in any very fast scenes or speech, it should become strikingly and painfully apparent to even the most callous of observers.
2. It does appear that a minority of HD2 users insist they are completely unaffected by the problem, and they are very vocal about it. This does introduce the possibility that, in fact, contrary to all common sense, there may be differences in HD2 hardware that are quite elusive. Alternatively, there is some yet-undiscovered combination of settings, roms, and drivers in which this problem disappears. More likely in many cases is the possibility that the issue is simply difficult to spot in some people's chosen sample footage.
3. HTC has acknowledged the problem in some form but is doing nothing about it, either because of development cost (software issue) or hardware issues. Again, there is also the possibility that there are other factors tying the company's hands.
4. In theoretical terms, the class 2 SD card read speed is more than sufficient to maintain sustained data flow of, for instance, a 300kbps audio/video stream. However, the delay issue persists even with the smallest of encodes, and even when the files are placed in the phone's built-in memory.
5. The Snapdragon chipset itself has been repeatedly implicated as being the culprit behind the A/V delay. Other potential candidates include driver issues, ROM issues, and/or general software issues on the part of HTC.
6. It is absolutely not a codec issue. This is not speculation or conjecture, but certainty. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support this, including the use of different players and encoders that produce valid streams--which play back perfectly in sync on any other computer or device. If there is any software you are using that you claim "doesn't get lag," you either do not experience lag/delay issues on your device, or the software is introducing opposite audio delay to compensate, which isn't a solution at all. The latter is known to occur with some community-produced frontends specifically for the HD2 as a crude workaround for this issue. However, it is hardly necessary to stress that the dilemma of not only re-encoding every existing media file for the HD2, but also the obvious lunacy of producing invalid files specifically so this device can read them.
7. The issue is ROM-independent. Cooked and stocked ROMs produce identical results. However, some users report a slight decrease in delay when they disable processor scaling (i.e. lock the device near 1ghz).
WHAT YOU CAN DO
First, decisively determine whether or not your device has this problem, which a large number of HD2 units seem to have. To test this, play this video (or others mentioned in this thread) on your HD2 in Windows Media Player or the HTC Video Player. Also try the included Transformers movie if you have a TMOUS unit. If you have any other media players on the device, you may also play these clips in those players with default settings. Note that all of these files are properly encoded and exhibit no audio lag when played using a computer or other device (including the original HTC HD). Report your findings, along with your OS version, ROM version, radio version, and model of HD2 (i.e. TMOUS or "European"). Also indicate your purchase date or, if known, the date of manufacture.
Secondly, once you've confirmed you have the issue, contact HTC and issue a report/complaint (in other words, request that they fix the problem). To support your complaint, you may refer to some of the ticket numbers at the bottom of this post, which are relevant to this issue. Once your complaint is filed, post the complaint ticket number here. It is crucial that HTC understands the prevalence of this problem or they will not fix it.
Finally, propose a solution (optional). If you manage to change device settings or install software/drivers/tweaks to eliminate the issue device-wide without destroying the file's actual synchronization (i.e. it remains in sync on the computer, other devices, etc), please post what you did! Please, no touting random 3rd party "converters" unless you understand the approach used by these to escape this sync/lag issue.
Ticket numbers (HTC Support)
10GBCW02ENA001052
10GBCW12ENA000301
10USCW13ENA001524
10GBCW12ENA000421
10AUCW15ENA000117
10GBCW13ENA000299
10ZACW16ENA000014 (HTC's acknowledgment)
Further Reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617163
Another test video. This was the default test clip until I replaced it with my own above.
Sorry, George, its not everybody's doesn't do it. Seriously, no matter what you may think of my mind, etc. mine doesn't seem to do it.
I'm not trying to say the problem is non-existent, you might be right. I didn't investigate enough.
But to give my 2 cents; I am very familiar with video encoding, digital audio and video and everything related. On a PC or on a TV i have an eagles eye (ear) for spotting sync problems. But I haven't noticed a sync problem on my HD2 whatsoever after having watched several movies on it... and 250ms should be very, VERY noticeable. Just 20ms usually catches my attention right away.
barty22 said:
I'm not trying to say the problem is non-existent, you might be right. I didn't investigate enough.
But to give my 2 cents; I am very familiar with video encoding, digital audio and video and everything related. On a PC or on a TV i have an eagles eye (ear) for spotting sync problems. But I haven't noticed a sync problem on my HD2 whatsoever after having watched several movies on it... and 250ms should be very, VERY noticeable. Just 20ms usually catches my attention right away.
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I'm also very familiar with encoding. I also notice stuttering problems in the video I play, in addition to sync issues (even baseline AVC with 1 ref, bitrate capped at 1000kbps, LC-AAC audio at 64kbps). This problem was even present on the included Transformers movies (the same movies play fine on the PC-- but with the exact same sync issue on coreplayer and TCPMP on the HD2).
Do you have the TMOUS device? What radio and ROM version are you using?
One other interesting thing I noticed. When the volume is turned down to 0, the choppiness present in some videos or situations dissappears, and when the audio is turned back up the choppiness comes back (tried in HTC Media Player).
This might relate directly to the sync issues I'm experiencing. What if there's a problem with the audio module or chipset rendering in general?
Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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Changed; happy yet? And I'm not so sure it's as "misleading" as you think. I've seen more with the issues than without. If it occurs on all the included videos and apps, I think it's safe enough to say it's a problem with all of them.
If you don't think your device has it, feel free to post to the contrary. It would help to specify what version of the device you're using.
Based on the responses I'm getting, the problem seems constrained to the new 1024 Leo units (the TMOUS devices). If you have such a device and don't have this problem, I (and many others here who complain about the sync--it's not just me) would love to know about it.
A little less arrogance, please.
no audio issues here either... TMOUS stock using CorePlayer in GDI
To OP
I have TMOUS hd2 with stock rom, since I read this thread, I watched Transformers couple times using built-in player and Core player, but I did not notice any audio lag.
You said 250ms audio lag, what programs you used to measure this number, how you measure audio lag in game? Karaoke game?
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The lag is measured qualitatively; I adjust the skew until I find that there is no more lip sync issues on the video files (basically I change the delay until the audio matches exactly with what's being shown). Then I observe that this audio delay is the same in all videos (including the stock). Then I notice that games are a bit delayed; since the 250ms appears to hold for all of the videos I've tried (the audio delay was set by an mp4 container flag), I simply assumed that the lag that is observable in games is the same; it appears to be the same magnitude, at least.
I noticed it in the Transformer movie as well. (This is probably the first time I played it and paid attention.)
TCPMP can't handle the Transformers movies. I can't notice any lag while playing another video file I had on my sd card. The quality is much lower, compared to Transformers.
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I simply assumed that the lag that is observable in games is the same;
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You know what they say about assumption ay? lol
See second post on in this page.
TCPMP solved my problems (Audio sync in videos, I don't have any delay at all in apps etc though).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617423&page=11
Don't know if that will help you out for your videos?
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TCPMP can't handle the Transformers movies.
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TCPMP runs 2.5 - 3 hour action films fine for me.
I've experienced no audio sync issues in the couple included games I've played with (all but Prince of Persia) nor any in the videos I've played (both Transformers and a couple other mp4's I've encoded with CloneDVDMobile). I'm not a big fan of games on these though, but the video capabilities have been THOROUGHLY tested on my unit. Oh, and all of this has been played from the supplied 16GB card and two 8GB cards (both made by Kingston) which I already had. I've played the videos using both the included "Video Player" and TCPMP (took a little work to get MPEG2s to play decently though).
Stock T-Mo US --NOT HardSPL or flashed yet.
OS: 5.2.21889.5.0.87
Manila ver: 2.5.20121412.1
ROM ver: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
ROM date: 02/22/10
Radio ver: 2.08.50.08_2
Protocol ver: 15.34.50.07U
I have reformatted the memory card and only replaced what I still wanted that was originally on it. I have not hard reset at all.
The only app I have installed which might affect performance is BsB Tweaks, and the only settings I've adjusted are: Power Saving - OFF; Hidden Camera Modes - ON; Camera 8MP - ON; and Wifi N - ON (I was curious about what this does, but it's not something I need.. I'm turning it off now, now that I'm thinking on it).
To those of you experiencing these issues: Are you only seeing this problem with games? Or is it affecting movies too?
HTC_Junglist said:
TCPMP runs 2.5 - 3 hour action films fine for me.
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I did not say that TCPMP couldn't handle long films. It was very specific to the Transformer movies. More specifically, I meant the exact Transformer movie files that came with the US T-Mobile HD2. TCPMP was not able to play those Transformer movie files smoothly.
However I do notice the audio lag in the default movie player it uses to the Transformers movies. The video is smooth, but the audio is lagged a little.
I am experiencing the exact delay that is being reported.
All you have to do is actually watch a few minutes of Transformers. Its really annoying.
aceo07 said:
I did not say that TCPMP couldn't handle long films. It was very specific to the Transformer movies. More specifically, I meant the exact Transformer movie files that came with the US T-Mobile HD2. TCPMP was not able to play those Transformer movie files smoothly.
However I do notice the audio lag in the default movie player it uses to the Transformers movies. The video is smooth, but the audio is lagged a little.
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No you just said "The Transformers movies", I have 2 transformer movies & TCPMP plays them both fine. They did not come with the handset like yours though, but they are both high quality of 2.5gb each (Don't know how big the issued ones are, I'm in UK here so we didn't get them).
So maybe it's an issue with the way they were encoded too as well as a hardware issue.
i don't have such an issue with mine... games and movies play fine... maybe you have slower ear sensors or faster vision lol .... and I am curious why do you advertise this in your signature?????? if you were writing in a sports forum and had some disability, would you write that down in your signature as well??
i have this same problem. I loaded my favorite alert sounds from my previous phone. They all get a half second to a second chopped off. So do my ring tones. I have not seen a fix for this on any board yet. You are not crazy.
DialecticThought said:
Change your thread title. its misleading. just because your device and someones friends first cousin sisters ex boyfriend suffer from this delay doesnt mean that ALL HD2s are affected. and to claim that all apps are affected? do you have all apps that are out there? kind of farfetched to say its a widespread occurence when this is the first time anyone has claimed such a "MAJOR FLAW!!!"
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It's not actually the first time, there was a thread running for a few days not so long ago about the same issue. And as far as I can ascertain, most, if not all HD2's are plagued with this issue.
I have a TmoUS HD2 and I haven't noticed any delay in sound.
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Hi all. Have managed to get DVD quality playback on the Jasjar with no frame dropping.
Encoded a DVD (test sample of 3 minutes) @ 44,100 Mhz Stereo, 128kbps MP3 and 1 pass @ 768 kbps at 640x480 resolution. Damn...it looks good. Only problem is that it's a little jerky. Can't remember where I read it, on this forum or elsewhere, but some guys have experimented with CPU overclocking in conjunction with video playback. Need to find that thread or those guys. my experience, like theirs, is that whilst plugged in to the mains, the jasjar playsback the file perfectly without any jerks whatsoever in extremely high quality!! Obviously there's a power issue going on. Either CPU power or battery (even if it's fully charged) or something similar.
Feedback would be appreciated and much needed.
I'm generally doing things at a lower quality. I use about 500kbps for video and 32kbps for audio (using Xvid and LameMP3, respectively).
I haven't had any problems with stuttering at those settings, when using normal battery power, and with my usual plugins running, etc.
Anything much above that though, and the jerks start, but I find those settings are pretty much optimal quality. It's my favourite balance between quality and smoothness, anyway.
I'm sure overclocking would help in your case, but every time I've overclocked previous devices, it's caused problems here, there, and everywhere, so I don't bother anymore! Over to someone else with more overclocking knowledge, methinks!....
Here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28210
I'm not sure if it's fair to call it overclocking if you just use the 520mhz setting, but it's been working for me. It chews up the battery very quickly but it's worth it, video playback is now nice and smooth.
Thanks galt. That's what I was looking for. I read all the posts and based on your last post, took the plunge and bought the software with the discount code. Cheers mate! :lol: I'll let you know how I got on.
Q. You mention that you encode at 20 fps. Does it still playback like @ 25 fps or isn't it noticeable? And how is ur battery life now, with the CPU Hack and UMTS disabled?
mackaby007 said:
Q. You mention that you encode at 20 fps. Does it still playback like @ 25 fps or isn't it noticeable? And how is ur battery life now, with the CPU Hack and UMTS disabled?
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@ 20 fps it plays back very very smooth (if the device can handle it without dropping frames). I haven't encoded any video @ 25fps but I'd guess that it's unecessary. My battery life was unchanged by turning off the UMTS, I really don't think it made a difference, and I typically have my GPRS on alll day. I don't run PHM at 520 mhz unless I'm watching high quality videos, but when I do it runs the battery down much faster. I really want a second higher capacity battery now (Mugen Power is working on it), but I also bought an extra wall and car charger so I can keep the device running full speed more often.
If you have any questions about setting up PHM feel free to AIM me (galtish) and I can try and hep but if you follow the directions in the other thread you should be ok. Do use the filter for the official Intel PXA270 when selecting settings in the speed configuration, and when you go to test them only test 3-4 settings at one time.
Agreed. Most of my videos are at 25fps, but the drop down to 20fps (which I've done a couple of times) is practically un-noticable.
Have a bit of a play around with your settings, and you'll fnd something which suits you (with or without overclocking...)
hello mate! Was just signing off the night and saw you in here. What do you use to encode your vids and are they DVD quality, apperance wise anyway? You see that's what I'm striving for and to be honest, it's not hard to achieve, but the trade off is sometimes a little to costly for my liking.
Hello again...
I use VirtualDub for everything. Bit tricky to figure out at first, but well worth the effort (in my opinion)
Every device I've had seems to work better on different settings, so I'm still trying out different permutations, but the ones I mentioned earlier work very well for me. (Everyone I've shown the results to has been suitably impressed, at least!)
When I get to a point that I'm completely happy with, I'll let you all know though!!!
Hello again...
I use VirtualDub for everything. Bit tricky to figure out at first, but well worth the effort (in my opinion)
Every device I've had seems to work better on different settings, so I'm still trying out different permutations, but the ones I mentioned earlier work very well for me. (Everyone I've shown the results to has been suitably impressed, at least!)
When I get to a point that I'm completely happy with, I'll let you all know though!!!
Be happy to continue this discussion from HTC & MS...:
nabil2000, sub69, trendystyle and other video buff bretherens
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In response to your discussions about video encoding, I thought I'd post some of my techniques also. nabil2000, I think you'll find that what sub69 said about re-converting videos (avi divx xvid or mpeg etc) to be the norm on pocket pc's. I too have beeb doing this for many years and you really don't need the full monty (PC spec encoded movie files for the pocket pc). However, admittedly, the higher the video bitrates, the better the look of the video. Like you nabil I wish you could just transfer your PC spec encoded vids as this would be awesome, but the usage of space really is unnecessary.
My best result to date is a divx 6.0 encoded movie file encoded directly from a DVD and looks just like the real thing.
I used DVDx and divx 6.0 in conjunction with Lame MP3, and the settings were as follows:
1 Pass encoding at 768kbps @ 640x480 resolution (Bi-cubic Sharp), use medium or better quality encoding option and set Maximum keyframe intervals @ 375. Audio is set to min of 80kbps but 128kbps sounds much better and louder on the Jasjar.
The result is beautiful!
However there is a major drawback. It stutters every few frames and often drops frames unless you either plug it in to the mains or overclock your cpu on the Jasjar to at least 520Mhz (I know the Jasjar is a 520Mhz CPU, but believe me, it doesn't perform like it in videos or anything else for that matter).
With PocketHackMaster2005 set to 520Mhz it plays back flawlessly! 8) So I try to overclock to 624MHz like the Axim X50v and it crashes.
Sub69 however, with the same Jasjar and ROM version can happily overclock to 624Mhz for hours. There's a problem here and it's starting to look like hardware differences in my opinion. I thought it might have been operating system build versions differing, but that is slowly being ruled out as sub69 has the same o/s version as me!
Anyway, what say you all? Any suggestions on what's going on?
pixelation
I get a pixelation problem after watching playback for about 20 mins...
I think these pda's have slightly different hardware features or so, since different people report different results... It doesn't bother me either way, I now know a workaround so i am happy, but i wont remove the pressure on i-mate/htc as i think the device was overpriced for what it can do... my opinion anyways... matter of fact i prefer to watch dvd's or divx on my compact player, or better still on laptop or desktop or tv bigger screen, using the jasjar will be only if i want to travel light and take a couple of movies to entertain myself...
greetings dudes...
(it took me 24 mins to re-encode a divx to the rate a third of what we normally use for hdtv on pc's)... quality ok, but ultimate pixelation is a pain in the a##...
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nabil2000 said:
I get a pixelation problem after watching playback for about 20 mins...
I think these pda's have slightly different hardware features or so, since different people report different results... It doesn't bother me either way, I now know a workaround so i am happy, but i wont remove the pressure on i-mate/htc as i think the device was overpriced for what it can do... my opinion anyways... matter of fact i prefer to watch dvd's or divx on my compact player, or better still on laptop or desktop or tv bigger screen, using the jasjar will be only if i want to travel light and take a couple of movies to entertain myself...
greetings dudes...
(it took me 24 mins to re-encode a divx to the rate a third of what we normally use for hdtv on pc's)... quality ok, but ultimate pixelation is a pain in the a##...
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Fair enough, but I can't afford to let it go. My experience over the years with PCs' has been that if your PC has powerful graphics processing capabilities in conjunction with a decent CPU, then all multimedia applications (inc video) will benefit. As the jasjar doesn't have a dedicated graphics accelaerator like the X50v, I am not expecting this...but it does have a 500+ Mhz CPU and in my experience of PPCs' should be more than capable of handling 640x480 vids! I suppose ultimately, we can't gat away from these two facts:
1) The CPU still has probably more to contend with in WM5.0 then its' predessors and is therefore unable to devote enough power to more CPU intensive applications without dedicated acceloration and....
2) As with most PPC software at the moment, what 3rd party software (inc TCPMP) has been specifically written with WM5.0 in mind? Potentially the reason for these issues.
Quite right. Unfortunately there isn't a single media player which was written specifically for WM5 (not even WMP10, right?) so we may be waiting for a while until a properly compatible player comes along with perfect performance?
Which .avi codecs can WMP10 handle, by the way?
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for pc's with win xp, i dont know mostly because i always have all codecs i need installed... i had a friend who has a windows media center 2005 laptop and we could play a divx 5 straight away without using any codec...
for pocketpc's i have no clues, it certainly doesnt have codecs for xvid and divx as i tried this, mptcp is the only one who bothered to include most needed codecs...
and btw don't forget that MS hate opensource, so they will delay implementing opensource codecs unless they really have to
but how about the sound, any way to boost it, on headphones at least?
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for pc's with win xp, i dont know mostly because i always have all codecs i need installed... i had a friend who has a windows media center 2005 laptop and we could play a divx 5 straight away without using any codec...
for pocketpc's i have no clues, it certainly doesnt have codecs for xvid and divx as i tried this, mptcp is the only one who bothered to include most needed codecs...
and btw don't forget that MS hate opensource, so they will delay implementing opensource codecs unless they really have to
but how about the sound, any way to boost it, on headphones at least?
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Funny you should say that nabil2000 (no codecs for PPC that is). sub69: this may be of interest to you too. using smartvideo concerter, they either have an option to install an xvid codec to the PPC as part of the smartmovie player or you can install the codec seperately. I wonder if this same codec could be utilised for TCPMP. You would have to go to their website to download the player and they offer the codec there. Additionally, TCPMP also have plugins for their player, I'm sure they are either codecs or equivalent. If I'm wrong please tell me, as this was picked up along the way and I didn't delve into it too much.
I used to use SmartMovie for my SonyEricsson P-series phones, I remember having their codec installed there too...
...what I'm thinking is that as TCPMP is a pre-WM5 piece of software, and WMP10 should be optimised for WM5 (although that's by no means certain, judging by Microsoft's track record!), we may all be more successful if we try encoding in a format which WMP10 understands, therefore cutting out a (possible) weak link...TCPMP.
It's been ages since I used SmartMovie though, and I've never used it on any of my PPC's, so can someone tell me if installing the SmartMovie codec enables you to use Xvid .avi's from within WMP10?
Also, throughout all of this I've been assuming that the native WMP10 codecs all result in having to have huge video files, I actually haven't tried encoding any WMP10-friendly Videos yet. Is there any list of WMP10 supported codecs, 'cause I can't find one
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encoding in mpeg4 for sure will be accepted by winMP10, in the past i used windows media encoder sdk that allows u to encode in wmv or asf format, now u can use windows movie maker 2 which is available for free with win xp...
in ppc wm2k5, there is no codec for xvid, or divx5, we need third party one, and tcpmp included them along with others ported from other open source codecs and adapted for wm2003...
happier than before!!
Hi guys. Recenttly done a hard reset and let all cabs install. Only 3rd party software installed is TCPMP and it now plays 640x480 vids much better.
Nabil2000: You can even play divx movies at that resolution encoded @ 1500kbps! and it's pretty smooth. A few jerks here and there, but nothing unacceptable and with the mains plugged in, flawless!!
I think we should wait for the next ROM update and hope for the best!!
tired
mackaby007, i am tired of fiddling with it, i take your word for it... i now have set it up as i wish to use it... i have written to htc explaining about what i wished the machine could do... everybody is competing now for bigger storage and better video even apple with their announcement with a video playing ipod... my marketing hunch is that if u dont offer top specs u dont survive long (or at least the multimeddia digital device u are wishing to market)... thats my couple cents wisdom...
the machine is great (barring the necessary needed rom update fine-tuning), it just annoys me that i will feel compelled to buy the jasjar ii if they answer all my wishes (which are not by the way that out of this world, i never asked to fit the universal with a teleporter or a replicator lol)... i saw a 4GB palm in pcworld last night and the temptation was big to purchase it, but common sense prevailed (i am unfortunately a very impulsive buyer!) ...
I share that same impulse, it's very costly isn't it? Anyway, good luck with your decision. At least you are truly well informed now.
Alright here's the deal, I got my HD2 when T-Mo had their sale on the 19th, so I'm pretty new. I've searched the forums, and I found several threads on the audio/video sync issue, but they don't help me too much with the problem I have. I used Red Kawa video conversion software to convert my MKV files to MP4, and while most people were saying the HD2 is the cause of the delay, I will note here that my videos were out of sync before I ever transferred them to the phone, so I had to delay them from the get-go. That's not my problem though. Now that I have about 10 videos in the correct format for the phone (800x480, video 1024kbps, audio 192kbps, -200ms delay) once I actually place them on the storage card and play them, they look fantastic until 7 minutes into any movie I play and the phone freaks out. Regardless of whether I'm in Album or WMP, and TCPMP won't play them hardly at all. I also can't use the slider to select any part of any video or the same thing happens, complete freakout. It's the weirdest thing, and there are videos I put on the phone without the delay that worked fine 2 days ago, but these mess up like clockwork EXACTLY 7 minutes in! Any advice here would be much appreciated. I haven't used Windows Mobile since the 2003 version, so I'm new to a lot of it.
Just wanted to add that the videos play perfectly on my computer, and I can use the slider on here to change spots...
Whoops! I thought I had both Anamorphic and Widescreen profiles set up the same, turns out one was on the Baseline Profile and another was on the Main Profile. As a result Anamorphic (Main) movies play fine, they're still not really slideable, but they don't jack up at 7 minutes.
I'm having one huge issue with this phone, and that is it not staying connected to the 3G at my house. I can sit in my living room and have 3-4 bars of 3G service, as can everyone else in my family, and my phone will just plumb disconnect and give me that lovely error message that you must "dismiss" before going on. Now if it was once in a blue moon I might be more forgiving, but it's all the time, literally almost every 2-3 minutes if I'm surfing. I don't really want to hard reset my phone because I'm not sure it will solve the issue, so if anyone has any advice here that would be fantastic. This is a freakin expensive phone, and I would hate for it to not work right after jumping through T-Mobile's hoops to get it. My friend's HD2 also has this issue and it's quite frustrating for both of us.
Now on to my question. Is it possible for Windows Mobile to even play 720p video? I have an mp4 copy of Kung Fu Panda for instance, that is 720p resolution and only 800mb, with a total bitrate of less than 1200kbps, and none of the media players (Album, WMP, TCPMP) will play this file at all. I didn't figure it would be that big a deal for this processor but I'm just curious, it's kind of a pain to re-encode EVERY video for playback on the phone. I have some MKV TV shows that are smaller files as well but 720p resolution and TCPMP won't play them either. Anything with that resolution causes TCPMP to crash. I was curious as to whether this was the phone not accepting the resolution or the audio track, which is a 5.1 surround track. I love this website and searched for both of these issues and couldn't find anything useful, so I have to ask y'all
Well, Homestar1217, I am also located in the DFW area and have the same problem. I constantly have to go to wireless controls in settings and turn my Data connection back on! You're right! It's VERY annoying!
It's probably the codec/container that you're using for your 720p file that's the issue.
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It's probably the codec/container that you're using for your 720p file that's the issue.
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Okkkkk... and in english? Please?
It is extremely annoying. If I hadn't already passed my 14 day return policy I'd be taking it back pronto. The new vibrant catches my eye at this point. Quite honestly I'm disappointed with this phone. Both browsers are sub-par, it took forever for me to figure out just the right bunch of settings on 3 different pieces of software for proper video conversion, swype has about a 25 second delay in the sms app before it lets me type, and mainly, it can't even stay connected to the network! I got this guy because of the processor, but it seems like all of the effort went into Sense, and no one tried to optimize the rest of the OS for the beast of a processor that it packs. Anyways, didn't mean to turn this into a complaint post. One 720p file is AVC with an mp4 container and video bitrate of 932kbps, and audio is AAC 6 channel at 278kbps. the other is an MKV with AVC video at 3476kbps and AC-3 audio at 384kbps, also 6 channel. I thought TCPMP would play those files but it crashed on both. I hope all that makes sense to you guys, it does to me
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It is extremely annoying. If I hadn't already passed my 14 day return policy I'd be taking it back pronto. The new vibrant catches my eye at this point. Quite honestly I'm disappointed with this phone. Both browsers are sub-par, it took forever for me to figure out just the right bunch of settings on 3 different pieces of software for proper video conversion, swype has about a 25 second delay in the sms app before it lets me type, and mainly, it can't even stay connected to the network! I got this guy because of the processor, but it seems like all of the effort went into Sense, and no one tried to optimize the rest of the OS for the beast of a processor that it packs. Anyways, didn't mean to turn this into a complaint post. One 720p file is AVC with an mp4 container and video bitrate of 932kbps, and audio is AAC 6 channel at 278kbps. the other is an MKV with AVC video at 3476kbps and AC-3 audio at 384kbps, also 6 channel. I thought TCPMP would play those files but it crashed on both. I hope all that makes sense to you guys, it does to me
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as far as TCPMP goes ... have you soft reset since you installed it? It crashed repeatedly on me before I soft reset, then, magic
if you want a different phne but are past the 14 day ask tmobile to send a new hd2 if you have the unit replaced 3 times in a 90 day period you are eligible for a handset exchange, I'm in this process right now... on my 3rd HD2 and i have the same data issue, after this i can upgrade to the mytouch slide,
*edit* as long as there is no heavy physical damage a.k.a. drop....
Just an fyi...I am in that third phone catagory. You won't get the phone you want...they offered me a Dash 3g! I said "That's not a comparable phone". They said that was the exchange phone and now they're sending me my 4th HD2. I'm having terrible lag issues while texting.
joe the lag issues might be happening because your threads are getting too big.i was having the same lag issue through the regular t9 texting then i switched over to swype in the settings and had a 15 second delay before i could text and realised after some help from this forum that there was too many messages in some contacts threads so everytime it gets to around 60 messages i just delete the thread. This happens with a lot of phones not just this one so give it try and see if it helps with your problem.
Hi all. I'm a long time lurker and 1st time poster. Having been a long time WinMo user (O2 xda2 mini -> HTC Tytn II -> HTC HD -> HTC HD2), I finally made the switch to Android with the Galaxy S (16GB, baseband version I9000ZSJF7) last week. I bought the phone mainly because of the fantastic looking screen and (supposedly) out-of-the-box FLAC playback. With much anticipation, I went to buy a pair of Westone 3 yesterday. Unfortunately, things didn't work out as planned as it seems like FLAC playback is broken on Samsung's Music Player that came with the phone. It seems like the Music Player is unable to finish playing a track w/o crapping out, and it would appear to crap out at the same location of the track every time it is played. When that happens, the music would stop with a popup saying that the Music Player has stopped unexpectedly, and I'm told to force close the application. Some of the things I've tried include:
1. Moving the FLAC from the microSD to internal storage. Same issue.
2. Installing andLess which would give me an "initialization error" whenever I play a FLAC file, regardless of whether "direct h/w access" (performed power cycle after change) is enabled or not.
3. Installing Meridian Player which simply fails to play any FLAC file.
The same FLAC files have always been fine on my HTPC (foobar2000), and appears to be working on the HD2 (CorePlayer). Also, I was able to replicate this FLAC playback issue on my friend's Galaxy S with the default Music Player and same basedband version as mine.
Has anyone successfully played your FLAC on your Galaxy S? What kind of software/setting do you use?
It'd be much appreciated if you guys can enlighten me! Thanks.
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Hi all. I'm a long time lurker and 1st time poster. Having been a long time WinMo user (O2 xda2 mini -> HTC Tytn II -> HTC HD -> HTC HD2), I finally made the switch to Android with the Galaxy S (16GB, baseband version I9000ZSJF7) last week. I bought the phone mainly because of the fantastic looking screen and (supposedly) out-of-the-box FLAC playback. With much anticipation, I went to buy a pair of Westone 3 yesterday. Unfortunately, things didn't work out as planned as it seems like FLAC playback is broken on Samsung's Music Player that came with the phone. It seems like the Music Player is unable to finish playing a track w/o crapping out, and it would appear to crap out at the same location of the track every time it is played. When that happens, the music would stop with a popup saying that the Music Player has stopped unexpectedly, and I'm told to force close the application. Some of the things I've tried include:
1. Moving the FLAC from the microSD to internal storage. Same issue.
2. Installing andLess which would give me an "initialization error" whenever I play a FLAC file, regardless of whether "direct h/w access" (performed power cycle after change) is enabled or not.
3. Installing Meridian Player which simply fails to play any FLAC file.
The same FLAC files have always been fine on my HTPC (foobar2000), and appears to be working on the HD2 (CorePlayer). Also, I was able to replicate this FLAC playback issue on my friend's Galaxy S with the default Music Player and same basedband version as mine.
Has anyone successfully played your FLAC on your Galaxy S? What kind of software/setting do you use?
It'd be much appreciated if you guys can enlighten me! Thanks.
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No problem with tested 43.79M 5:01/5:01 flac song.
Hi Dexter, thanks for your response. I guess you must be using the stock Samsung Music Player? I suspect that the FLAC playback issue I'm having is related to the stock ZSJF7 ROM. This same issue can be replicated on my friend's phone with the same ROM and I couldn't seem to find another person having this problem after some Googling. Maybe I should bring the phone back to Sammy's service center for them to have a look at it.
Haven't had any issues myself.
Been playing Tupac's All Eyez On Me album (2CDs/27 tracks of epic lossless ).
Tested on a few firmwares - JF1, JFB, JFF, and now JG1.
I have had music player crash once though (when I was downloading about 5 items at once.. and running a bunch of apps in the background, phone mega lagged and crashed lol)
The fact thats crashing on the same spot suggests to me that it might be a problem with your files, ie. they might be corrupt. I'm not a flac expert thought, but I've had similar issues with MP3s that are corrupt or imperfectly conforming to the MP3 standard, where some players would play and some wouldnt.
IIRC mixzing player might be able to play flac (free version can be downloaded from market)
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Haven't had any issues myself.
Been playing Tupac's All Eyez On Me album (2CDs/27 tracks of epic lossless ).
Tested on a few firmwares - JF1, JFB, JFF, and now JG1.
I have had music player crash once though (when I was downloading about 5 items at once.. and running a bunch of apps in the background, phone mega lagged and crashed lol)
The fact thats crashing on the same spot suggests to me that it might be a problem with your files, ie. they might be corrupt. I'm not a flac expert thought, but I've had similar issues with MP3s that are corrupt or imperfectly conforming to the MP3 standard, where some players would play and some wouldnt.
IIRC mixzing player might be able to play flac (free version can be downloaded from market)
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Thanks for your response. Are you using the default Samsung Music Player?
I initially thought that my FLAC files were to blame but I have run into the same playback issue with every single FLAC I've tried so far while playback of the same files is absolutely fine on the HTPC. I'll try to play these files directly from the microSD card when I get home. Another thing is that my friend was playing his own FLAC on his Galaxy S and we still run into the same issue on different phones. I think it's a bit unlikely that we both have corrupted FLAC that would otherwise play without issues elsewhere. As for andLess and Meridian Player, they simply won't work at all so the primary suspect would appear to be the Hong Kong ROM that we both have. As far as I know, andLess and Meridian don't require rooting, no (my phone isn't rooted)?
Anyway, I'll bring the phone to the service center and see what do they have to say about this.
No problems playing FLACs here with standard Samsung Music-player, on XXJF3.
Except, it doesn't read the ID3-tags, so they all appear as unknown artist - which is quite bothersome.
yes, using default samsung player.
Like I said, I think there are some free players which can play flac, like mixzing if i remember correctly. You should try them
You said they all freeze at the same spot right... what spot is that?
Are you getting all your flacs from the same source/software? Are all the files the same length? Surely if say.. they all freeze at 1min mark, can you try a 59second song cut?
I'm a little skeptical I guess... it sounds more like software problem than a hardware issue.
I'd flash to a newer firmware if I was you, but I understand if you don't want to flash (the risks + data loss etc).
..been playing FLAC on my unit from when it was on stock firmware and now JG1.. no issues whatsoever.. yup, using the default player.
..weird that you are having issues on playing flac files.. it might be the case that the file is corrupted during transfer.. but i might be wrong.
..providing the details of the flac file here would help other experienced users assist you with your case.. just a friendly advise.
Many thanks for the replies. I was at the Samsung service center earlier & their suggestion to me was use MP3 instead as FLAC takes up too much space & requires too much processing power! I don't buy that bs and I wouldn't think that's an ideal solution. The dude then "hinted" at installing a custom ROM or wait for the 2.2 update. Wow...
I've installed Mixzing which has FLAC support but unfortunately same issue as before. My FLAC collection consists of *cough* d/l'ed stuff and a few EAC rip of my CDs. What kind of FLAC info can I post? Anyway, I'll try to rip a few more CDs when I get the chance. Btw, does Android have native FAT32 support for microSD?
I know I need to make sure the FLACs aren't corrupted but I'm inclined to think this is an issue with the Hong Kong ROM which me and my friend has. And it seems like no one else is experiencing this issue! I know a third person who has this phone so perhaps I can try to verify with him also.
Thanks once again and I shall report back with any new findings.
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edit: the playback would crap out at the different points for different track but always the same point for the same track. So I suppose that would indicate that something is wrong with the FLACs themselves.
What happens if you put the flac files wich are on the phone back on the pc and play them with an other device? That way you can at least determin if the fault may lie in the transfer of the files? I had some avi's corrupting while putting them on the phone, reinstalling the usb drivers (and kies) fixed that for me
Ok, I took the microSD card out and played the FLACs directly from my HTPC with foobar2000. Just to make sure, I'm also playing the FLACs now directly from the microSD card on my work laptop with Winamp as the player. I didn't encounter any problem when playing these FLACs from the HTPC and the laptop with two different players so I am quite confident that the files and the microSD card are fine. I think I've also mentioned before that I have already tried to play the same FLACs on the microSD card with CorePlayer on my HTC HD2 w/o any issues.
During the encounter with a certain "individual" yesterday, he has suggested that the Samsung Music Player was poorly written and was maxing out the CPU when I try to play a FLAC on the phone. That was contrary to my knowledge as I don't think FLAC decoding is something that the Hummingbird with 512MB of RAM can't handle. So I loaded TaskManager which seems to indicate that the Music Player was at most using 3% of the CPU while playing a FLAC.
So, from what I have gathered so far:
1. AFAIK, this FLAC playback issue has only appeared on 3 phones (mine, my friend's, and the Samsung tech's) all with stock Hong Kong ROM. No one else with other ROMs seem to have this issue I'm currently experiencing.
2. The same issue shows up on 3 different players I've tried on the Galaxy S.
3. I have used the same microSD card and successfully played the same FLACs on my HTPC, laptop and HTC HD2 with no issue at all.
4. The Sammy tech seems to have acknowledged that there's an issue with FLAC playback on our phones, but doesn't seem to be in a position to do anything to fix this.
Do you guys reckon this issue is caused by the HK ROM? I'm ready to flash to a different ROM (preferably with Chinese handwriting input as I occasionally use that). If flashing is indeed necessary, where can I get some step-by-step guide and more info on ROM selection?
ps. As a thing that's somewhat unrelated to my problem, I want to say that there is massive difference in sound quality between the different players. I was at my friend's place testing the Galaxy S with his two monoblock tube amps hooked up to a pair of B&W 804s. We tried the default Sammy Music Player, Mixzing and some Chinese music player app which the certain "individual" advised me to try. It turns out that the Sammy player sounded the best while there was a very noticeable drop in sound quality with Mixzing. Now how that difference in SQ translates into earphone application is I guess an entirely different story.
After the test, my friend concluded that the SQ of the Sammy player was so close to his HTPC (his main audio source equipped with an X-Fi XtremeMusic) that he is now seriously considering a Wavelength USB DAC to replace the X-Fi...
EDIT: Just found this thread on ROM flashing. Now I gotta find a ROM that fits my requirements.
No idea if a ROM flash would fix it, but since it doesnt seem to be hardware related AND the only correspondence in ROM's wich give this problem are the HK ones, I would say its at least worth considering.
Well, I ended up flashing to a South East Asian DXJF4 ROM and guess what? I've gone through 4 or 5 FLACs with no problem! So the problem is definitely caused by something on the HK ROM. I guess I should report this finding to Samsung so that they won't screw up the 2.2 HK ROM.
I went with a SEA ROM hoping I can get decent Chinese handwriting input with it. Unfortunately, it uses a different Chinese input from the HK ROM and I'm having a tough time to even write my own name lol. Another thing is I still can't get the Music Player to recognize WAV files
Oh well, at least I've got FLAC playback sorted out and that's the more important thing...
I also have a HK SGS and am having problems with flac files, sometimes they stop, sometimes they skip to the next song.
I have a UK SGS which started out on JF3 and is now on JG3. I've got one particular FLAC track that stops a couple of minutes in and i have to bump it forward 30 seconds or so and it then caries on. Other than that i've not noticed a problem with FLAC playback on the stock music player.
I'm a bit late to this thread but I've had the same problem as the OP when on ZSJF7 firmware. Had to revert to DXJF4.
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I have a UK SGS which started out on JF3 and is now on JG3. I've got one particular FLAC track that stops a couple of minutes in and i have to bump it forward 30 seconds or so and it then caries on. Other than that i've not noticed a problem with FLAC playback on the stock music player.
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I have several tracks that do this as well - doesn't matter which firmware the phone's running on (haven't tried JG5 yet). There's no problem with MP3 playback.
Westone 3's??? Nice OP
btw i saw on another forum a similar issue of FLAC tags not being read. Has anybody found a solution to that, cuz that sucks big time, having hundreds of files in "UNKNOWN" is a real pain. I'll keep looking.
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Westone 3's??? Nice OP
btw i saw on another forum a similar issue of FLAC tags not being read. Has anybody found a solution to that, cuz that sucks big time, having hundreds of files in "UNKNOWN" is a real pain. I'll keep looking.
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I have a problem with the FLAC tags, I have the Korean Galaxy S SHW-m110s I haven't tried to reupload since getting to firmware updates. I did dl flac tag conversion software that mostly improved this, but for whatever reason the last letter cut off and now I've just thought of also adding a space after the last letter...hmm...anyways...I'll put new FLAC on the phone and hope there is a better answer to this.
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I did dl flac tag conversion software that mostly improved this, but for whatever reason the last letter cut off and now I've just thought of also adding a space after the last letter...hmm...anyways...I'll put new FLAC on the phone and hope there is a better answer to this.
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Where'd you download the conversion software from? Even if the last letter's cut off it's better than nothing
The FLAC problem seems fixed in the latest offical ZSJG4 firmware from Kies. I already listened for 8 flac songs without stop or program crash.
Hey all,
I typically never register and make my first a complaint/help post, but this problem has been plaguing me ever since I first got my Galaxy S Vibrant from Bell (i9000m) a week ago and now I'm pretty much desperate in looking for a solution, as music listening happens to be a HUGE part of my Smartphone experience. I love the phone with everything else thus far after coming over from iphone 3G and definitely wouldn't want to change the phone just because of this problem... but it's becoming way too persistent for me that I'm actually considering switching back to Apple (even though I don't want to).
Here's the problem: The music player seems absolutely incapable of smooth playback of music for whatever reason. In my ~10 years of music phone experience (I got the first ever mp3 phone released here in Canada - the Samsung Uproar, many years ago actually), this phone is the first to have such problems. Here are some symptoms and settings, music playing on both the stock music player as well as btunes that I downloaded and paid for:
- MP3/AAC files stutter/skip seemingly at random. Not majorly but for half a second or so at different parts of the song. Happens somewhat consistently, every 4 minutes or so, but at random.
- Here's an interesting thing; the ability for FLAC playback is one of the main reasons why I purchased this phone, and so far it's incapable of doing so properly. EACH AND EVERY FLAC song I have stutter/skips at a certain point for 3/4th of a second... and the funny thing is that this seems to occur at exact same point of each song.
- Before any of you question the point, 95% of these are self-ripped FLAC/mp3 files from my own cd's, using EAC. I'm an audiophile and know well how to rip songs properly, so I know this is 100% NOT the problem of the files itself... especially since they play perfectly in every single music player software/mp3 player/cellphone that I've ever used.
- This happens in both stock touchwiz and launcher pro UI that I'm currently using.
- Happens in both stock player and btunes as mentioned earlier. Interesting thing about FLAC files; I mentioned before each files skip at same parts of the song... interestingly the stock player and btunes seem to skip with these files at DIFFERENT parts of the song, yet the part where they stutter/skip is still the same for each player. So for example, Song A would skip on stock player at 3:31 point of the song each time, but that same Song A would skip on btunes at 2:23 point of the song every time...
- I do have beautiful weather widget running, and will test it out soon to see if this is the problem (haven't got around to doing so yet and don't have headphones with me atm)... but even if it is, it would seem appaling to me that a widget and a simple resource-light music player can't coexist... doesn't make sense to me and kind of misses the point of a high end smartphone.
- I'm not going to use Airplane mode as a solution, since this pretty much misses the point of the smartphone as I've said above. Besides, I've tried it already and music STILL stuttered/skipped!
- As I have high end headphones/IEMs such as Audio Technica ESW10JPN and Shure SE530, it's definitely not the headphones, and they work flawlessly in any other player.
- Drag and drop, media player, Kies, you name it... every method of transfer of songs gives the same problem.
- Internal SD card, External SD card... doesn't seem to make a lick of difference either.
- I have the stock JG9 firmware that my phone came with. I would download the new one that is apparently out for my i9000m version (JH2) if Kies ever detects the damn thing (it's never there as an update)...
So any clues on how to solve this annoying problem. As I've said, this is the ONLY problem I've had with my unit (my GPS is fine, and phone runs lag free) and its a darn shame because music playback is a huge part of my smartphone use. Is this likely a firmware problem? Or just a problem with memory use? If I don't have to I'd REALLY rather not root the phone but if that solves it for certain then I'm actually willing to look into it... that's how desperate I am to solve this problem.
I'd appreciate any input in this matter... thanks in advance.
I had the same problem, and pinned it down to one of my widgets hogging all the resources. As soon as I disabled the widget, playback was fine again.
another tip
disable media scan
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I had the same problem, and pinned it down to one of my widgets hogging all the resources. As soon as I disabled the widget, playback was fine again.
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I'll be trying this out later on, but seems really sad to me for a phone of this calibre in not being able to handle that if this was true...
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disable media scan
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Just a guess but this would require rooting, won't it?
yes, as you need to install another piece of software to do the trick
but you can always Un-root, if you ever need to send your phone for warranty
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I'll be trying this out later on, but seems really sad to me for a phone of this calibre in not being able to handle that if this was true...
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Probably more bad coding of the free widgets rather than the phone not being capable. I can write a 4 line .vbs script that will cane most PC's and drag them to their knees.
Have you done a factory reset? No problems here, love the music player. I have beautiful home also
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mine doesnt skip at all even while using gps.. i would recommend that you check your sd card.. maybe bad or too slow..
that is indeed a posibility.
in older devices low speed SD cards can cause data skip
but now in days most SD cards are pretty fast, so the problem shouldn't be there, yet you'll never know, so that's the posibility
Nah. My external micro SD is a class 6 Sandisk, and I'm sure the internal one isn't all that bad either... comes with the phone after all. Pretty sure it isn't the SD Cards as the problem happens on both. Tried the music player without any widgets running, with the phone connected through headphone jack into AUX of my car for about 6 minutes at lunch... and it actually played pretty smoothly... but I'll have to try that out more extensively later, plus try it with FLAC files as well.
Haven't done a factory reset (apparently it doesn't do much for ppl who's had same problems), but I'll be flashing to the JH2 later on today so I'm guessing that'll be more or less the same thing... hoping that it makes some sort of difference.
Alright, I was able to install JH2 firmware and play around with turning off the widgets and such... and it did not do ANYTHING with the FLAC Playback problems. The same tracks always still skip at the same place in the song, and no FLAC files seems to play 100% smoothly... and the tags are still broken. Turning off the widgets don't stop these glitches. MP3's on the other hand seems perfect for the most part unless I missed something... At this point, I'm just inclined to believe that FLAC support for Galaxy at this time is heavily glitched. Does anyone else here have perfect FLAC playback? Totally smooth with perfect tags and everything? If you do, please post the firmware and settings and all that.
Ugh, at least even iphone 4 had a perfect music player and a perfect lossless support, although it's ALAC instead of FLAC... strongly considering it now if the player is going to remain glitched like this. The phone is so excellent besides this, that I'd hate to do that... but music listening just happens to be a big part of my smartphone use.
other users have reported the same findings about FLAC
this is just a software thing, it'll be fixed in no time
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Alright, I was able to install JH2 firmware and play around with turning off the widgets and such... and it did not do ANYTHING with the FLAC Playback problems. The same tracks always still skip at the same place in the song, and no FLAC files seems to play 100% smoothly... and the tags are still broken. Turning off the widgets don't stop these glitches. MP3's on the other hand seems perfect for the most part unless I missed something... At this point, I'm just inclined to believe that FLAC support for Galaxy at this time is heavily glitched. Does anyone else here have perfect FLAC playback? Totally smooth with perfect tags and everything? If you do, please post the firmware and settings and all that.
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I have the same thing too.. I suspect its a scheduling issue or buffering issue. Not sure about your tag issues though, as they work fine for me
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other users have reported the same findings about FLAC
this is just a software thing, it'll be fixed in no time
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My biggest concern is that FLAC playback is solely Samsung's responsibility apparently (Android apparently doesn't natively support FLAC, so I don't expect Froyo to do much), and I really doubt that it's one of their priorities for fixing at the moment (especially with the whole GPS issue). It's up to Sammy to fix it, but I can't say I have too much faith.
Well, since I've got an android phone and all I think I'll root this phone and play around with the setCPU stuff, and see if that helps. This fixed it for one of the users from what I've read.
I've got no problems playing any FLAC file on my default Samsung player very smooth. I haven't rooted my phone or ever installed custom firmwares. I am running the new official UK firmware XXJM1.
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Sandisk Class 4 4GB card.
FLAC Bitrate: 1411Kbps ~ Lossless Audio Codec File
Wow... well, it's at least a good news that someone else can playback FLAC smoothly without any problems... and it also means that if this is true, then its more than likely that this is purely a firmware issue... which means it's more than possible for Samsung to fix this.
Factory reset solved media issues for several people I know of. So if you didn't reset your phone when you got it, do so now and chances are you are rid of the problem.
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Factory reset solved media issues for several people I know of. So if you didn't reset your phone when you got it, do so now and chances are you are rid of the problem.
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I've flashed to a new firmware since I first got it. Wouldn't this technically be the same thing as factory reset since the initial firmware/contents got wiped out clean and replaced by a brand new one? And even after that unfortunately the audio problems still remain for me...
Try putting the music onto external sd card. Had audio skipping problems after installing one click click lag fix and went crazy trying to figure it out.
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ickyboo said:
Try putting the music onto external sd card. Had audio skipping problems after installing one click click lag fix and went crazy trying to figure it out.
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It's been on external SD card since the second day. Doesn't seem to matter for me at all since the files skip the same way on both internal and external card.
I'm going to go to the Bell Store anyway today (to discuss phone plan stuff), so I think I'll take my SD card with me and try the demo models to see if there are same playback problems on those. I really doubt this is due to hardware but hey, since I'll be there anyway, why not.