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I am getting a replacement evo because of problems with my headphone Jack. My current phone is rooted and I have nandroid backups of my favorite roms and setups. My question is after getting my new phone (and rooting it of course) will my nandroid backups from the current phone that are on the SD card be able to be used or do I have to pretty much just start over?
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dresr82 said:
I am getting a replacement evo because of problems with my headphone Jack. My current phone is rooted and I have nandroid backups of my favorite roms and setups. My question is after getting my new phone (and rooting it of course) will my nandroid backups from the current phone that are on the SD card be able to be used or do I have to pretty much just start over?
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You can use certain aspects of them.
But you obviously can't restore things like the Wimax information.
If you copy them from your current phone to your computer, then from your computer to the new one after it's rooted you'll still have them. It's good to always keep them on your computer anyways if you break or loose your phone or sd card.
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Be careful.....you do not want to restore your old RSA keys onto your new phone.....you possibly will lose your new ones in place of your old ones ...and when a phone is returned those keys are deactivated ......
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snowboarda42 said:
If you copy them from your current phone to your computer, then from your computer to the new one after it's rooted you'll still have them. It's good to always keep them on your computer anyways if you break or loose your phone or sd card.
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not a good idea.
Vandelay007 said:
Be careful.....you do not want to restore your old RSA keys onto your new phone.....you possibly will lose your new ones in place of your old ones ...and when a phone is returned those keys are deactivated ......
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qft.
op - pay a few bucks and get titanium backup (if you haven't it already). do a full back up (apps/app data and system data). if you decide to run the same rom you can do a full restore using titanium on the new phone. if you use a different rom, restore apps and data and some system backups only (i.e. bookmarks, wifi configs, bluetooth configs, sms/mms to name a few).
When you get your new phone, be sure to use the latest (2.2.1) version of Amon recovery, and back EVERYTHING up (including wimax!) with this done, you can always save yourself later if you run into problems.
If you *previously* used Amon, you'll want to take out the wimax.img's from the backup directories, otherwise you'll overwrite your new phone's wimax radio with the backup from the now defunct phone.
No no no do not use a nand backup from one evo to another you will copy your RSA keys to the new phone overwriting the new phones keys. If you have to ask you are probably not aware of what your rsa keys are or how to extract them. Just do a TI backup of the apps on the old phone and use it to restore apps and app data only.
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not a good idea.
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op - pay a few bucks and get titanium backup (if you haven't it already). do a full back up (apps/app data and system data). if you decide to run the same rom you can do a full restore using titanium on the new phone. if you use a different rom, restore apps and data and some system backups only (i.e. bookmarks, wifi configs, bluetooth configs, sms/mms to name a few).
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Thanks you guys. Just out of curiosity, what happens to your phone if you overwrite the RSA Keys?
Wimax is busted and if you were to restore nandroid make sure you have the same hboot as your previous evo
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cesarcerros31 said:
Wimax is busted and if you were to restore nandroid make sure you have the same hboot as your previous evo
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So if im in a area that doesn't get wimax it really has no effect on me? I'm in Kansas City and we do have 4g but I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm a n00b so I'm trying to learn what I can.
dresr82 said:
So if im in a area that doesn't get wimax it really has no effect on me? I'm in Kansas City and we do have 4g but I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm a n00b so I'm trying to learn what I can.
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Best advice ....don't over write your keys for the sake of settings which can be restored in other ways....
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it has no effect on you this moment but if say in a month you get 4g in your area or you travel to an area that has 4g... you are basically SOL. the phone will never be able to use 4g once you lose your keys.
It jsut isnt worth completly killing yuor 4g to save you from a little work in resetting up your phone. For me the titanium back up method worked best. Witht he same rom there is no real issue restoring the system settings and apps and if yuo have the pro version it is easy and hassle free.
You can also edit your nandroid folder. Delete the images that you do not want, in this matter the wimax.img, and edit your nandroid.md5 to remove that particular entry. Then try your restore. You definitely would not want to restore a different phone's wimax.img though, so make sure it is removed.
nandroid.md5 file contents:
91cebe6b52d9e64c01c30653a5d2266a boot.img
06295eb84eb6ecc98e0164761dbf78c6 cache.img
397ce69461a617def1cff4d1b06d6917 data.img
4cd1cda3b36a17727fd500c910c87597 system.img
7cc9df0a90eca0ec6505d76698a8f8d0 wimax.img
Point blank don't do it not worth the headaches. Rooting and backup could take only 15 minutes out of your life...no biggie
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I have the same problem......
My charging port was bad and Sprints replacing my phone and I will have the new one any day. I have everything backed up with titanium and rom manager.
What steps do I need to get rooted again.... After reading this, i cant just load up my old rom and be done I guess! Thanks in advance.
I am getting new (I guess refurbish) epic since this one wont charge my question is when rooth the new phone should I erase the old directory of the microSD card
or what where the old root is and worked fine. My curent phone I odin back to default before taking it back.
dito33
You shouldnt have to erase anything on your sdcard if your keeping it.If you need to send the old phone back first,just keep the sdcard,I would... And you should Odin phone back to stock if it still has a charge.
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Thanks, yes I want to keep it. Is the old root stuff will not interfere with the new since it would open new directory and get confuse since there is already one. I already took back the phone to stock.
dito33
Your sd card isn't rooted lol
All the stuff on there is fine. That's the beauty of an sd card! Its made to move stuff from one electronic to another just incase.
Just throw it in the new epic, root and restore anything from your nandroids!
Then agin,idk if you can restore to different phones...I've never had to lol
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Your sd card isn't rooted lol
All the stuff on there is fine. That's the beauty of an sd card! Its made to move stuff from one electronic to another just incase.
Just throw it in the new epic, root and restore anything from your nandroids!
Then agin,idk if you can restore to different phones...I've never had to lol
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yes you can restore to different phones...
my story...
my first epic i rooted and Clockworked it.. make a backup..
used it a month or so played games etc..
phone started to fail to rotate when i turned screen to the side.
sprint said i needed a new phone.
unrooted. got the android ID with a program from the market since i read i needed it for a few things. i was worried about a few games and since that used my android id to identify my for my player states ie. world war and ninjas live.
got a new phone..
used android id changer to change the id of new phone to the old id for my games and etc..
didnt think it worked since world was was starting over..
so i was pissed and was going to reflash over.
went to clockwork and low and behold i saw my old backup from my old phone.
used it to refresh my new phone.
my games picked up where i left off on the old phone.
my android id is the same as my old phone also
Thanks again, I am not sure if I make it clear, my phone start acting and escalated to not charging properly and I am getting new phone. My card contains old root backups and directories from clockworkmod, when rooting the new phone, with root directories there already my concern is if gonna be some problems since the clocworkmod creating new backup (update.zip) directories etc.
dito33
No you're gonna be safe.
Clockwork mod is just gonna use the same directories, if they're not there then it'll create them
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Thanks all you guys, I have to try anyway so will see what happen.
dito33
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
j0hn0n1 said:
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...
Hi I want to switch roms, right now im running (RAFDROID HD 4.2.0). I want to switch to (Pyramid HTC WWE 1.35.401.1). Now my question is can I just use CWM and flash over my current rom and have my stuff save or will I have to get something to back up my apps I would really appreciate any help i get. Thanks
1)use titanium backup from market.
2)in mgldr : ad recovery-backup and restore-backup. but because you go to another rom, when restoring from mgldr choose advanced restore and restore sd-ext and data (even this may cause problems in changing roms,so titanium will give you a warranty)
I've done the same but its going to give problems it actually gave so much problem I had to do a clean install
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In post 2 there is a good way but i find it a little time consuming. what i do is make a back up via cwr incase something happens and then back up my apps using appmonster pro. then after i flash a new ROM i use the batch install feature to install all my apps i saved on my sd card. i find that its a little more simple plus works great. only problem (for some) is that appmonster pro is a paid app in the market. It really is a great app though and has allowed me to create a little stock pile of apps on my sd card.
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Warrior1975 said:
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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When I changed sd cards in my phone from the 16gb to the 64gb card, I copied my entire sd card to my laptop and then transferred all that data to the new card.
But in this case, I would try to copy over your nandroid to a computer and try that. Or do a synch to dropbox or drive and then resync to the new N7.
It can be done, just gotta figure which would be the best/fastest route.
Warrior1975 said:
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
I'm running AOKP, build 5. Also using TWRP. I think the titanium back up idea works fine. Thanks guys.
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Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
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No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
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No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
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Ok well I just said "you may have to use and," I didn't say you had to.. I said this because I mostly use adb, because MTP does not work well on Linux.
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I returned* my 16GB this morning. I took a full Titanium Backup and a full TWRP/nandroid then copied everything (most everything at least) from the internal SD to a 32gb microsd via OTG. I don't expect to have much trouble restoring it to the replacement. Already did from first 16gb to second, when screen got weird first time.
Note that TWRP puts the backups in directories that are named to identify the individual device. Not sure what the random-looking name is, but you'll need to figure out the right name for the new unit and move the files or TWRP won't see the backup to restore.
* Screen was getting bad and wal-mart was willing to take it back and refund my money. Intending to replace with a 32 or 32/3g sometime soon.
Titanium should be fine. I will just root the new device, start fresh and restore my apps.
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