I am getting a replacement evo because of problems with my headphone Jack. My current phone is rooted and I have nandroid backups of my favorite roms and setups. My question is after getting my new phone (and rooting it of course) will my nandroid backups from the current phone that are on the SD card be able to be used or do I have to pretty much just start over?
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dresr82 said:
I am getting a replacement evo because of problems with my headphone Jack. My current phone is rooted and I have nandroid backups of my favorite roms and setups. My question is after getting my new phone (and rooting it of course) will my nandroid backups from the current phone that are on the SD card be able to be used or do I have to pretty much just start over?
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You can use certain aspects of them.
But you obviously can't restore things like the Wimax information.
If you copy them from your current phone to your computer, then from your computer to the new one after it's rooted you'll still have them. It's good to always keep them on your computer anyways if you break or loose your phone or sd card.
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Be careful.....you do not want to restore your old RSA keys onto your new phone.....you possibly will lose your new ones in place of your old ones ...and when a phone is returned those keys are deactivated ......
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snowboarda42 said:
If you copy them from your current phone to your computer, then from your computer to the new one after it's rooted you'll still have them. It's good to always keep them on your computer anyways if you break or loose your phone or sd card.
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not a good idea.
Vandelay007 said:
Be careful.....you do not want to restore your old RSA keys onto your new phone.....you possibly will lose your new ones in place of your old ones ...and when a phone is returned those keys are deactivated ......
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qft.
op - pay a few bucks and get titanium backup (if you haven't it already). do a full back up (apps/app data and system data). if you decide to run the same rom you can do a full restore using titanium on the new phone. if you use a different rom, restore apps and data and some system backups only (i.e. bookmarks, wifi configs, bluetooth configs, sms/mms to name a few).
When you get your new phone, be sure to use the latest (2.2.1) version of Amon recovery, and back EVERYTHING up (including wimax!) with this done, you can always save yourself later if you run into problems.
If you *previously* used Amon, you'll want to take out the wimax.img's from the backup directories, otherwise you'll overwrite your new phone's wimax radio with the backup from the now defunct phone.
No no no do not use a nand backup from one evo to another you will copy your RSA keys to the new phone overwriting the new phones keys. If you have to ask you are probably not aware of what your rsa keys are or how to extract them. Just do a TI backup of the apps on the old phone and use it to restore apps and app data only.
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not a good idea.
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op - pay a few bucks and get titanium backup (if you haven't it already). do a full back up (apps/app data and system data). if you decide to run the same rom you can do a full restore using titanium on the new phone. if you use a different rom, restore apps and data and some system backups only (i.e. bookmarks, wifi configs, bluetooth configs, sms/mms to name a few).
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Thanks you guys. Just out of curiosity, what happens to your phone if you overwrite the RSA Keys?
Wimax is busted and if you were to restore nandroid make sure you have the same hboot as your previous evo
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Wimax is busted and if you were to restore nandroid make sure you have the same hboot as your previous evo
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So if im in a area that doesn't get wimax it really has no effect on me? I'm in Kansas City and we do have 4g but I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm a n00b so I'm trying to learn what I can.
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So if im in a area that doesn't get wimax it really has no effect on me? I'm in Kansas City and we do have 4g but I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm a n00b so I'm trying to learn what I can.
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Best advice ....don't over write your keys for the sake of settings which can be restored in other ways....
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it has no effect on you this moment but if say in a month you get 4g in your area or you travel to an area that has 4g... you are basically SOL. the phone will never be able to use 4g once you lose your keys.
It jsut isnt worth completly killing yuor 4g to save you from a little work in resetting up your phone. For me the titanium back up method worked best. Witht he same rom there is no real issue restoring the system settings and apps and if yuo have the pro version it is easy and hassle free.
You can also edit your nandroid folder. Delete the images that you do not want, in this matter the wimax.img, and edit your nandroid.md5 to remove that particular entry. Then try your restore. You definitely would not want to restore a different phone's wimax.img though, so make sure it is removed.
nandroid.md5 file contents:
91cebe6b52d9e64c01c30653a5d2266a boot.img
06295eb84eb6ecc98e0164761dbf78c6 cache.img
397ce69461a617def1cff4d1b06d6917 data.img
4cd1cda3b36a17727fd500c910c87597 system.img
7cc9df0a90eca0ec6505d76698a8f8d0 wimax.img
Point blank don't do it not worth the headaches. Rooting and backup could take only 15 minutes out of your life...no biggie
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I have the same problem......
My charging port was bad and Sprints replacing my phone and I will have the new one any day. I have everything backed up with titanium and rom manager.
What steps do I need to get rooted again.... After reading this, i cant just load up my old rom and be done I guess! Thanks in advance.
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I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
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What would happen if I copied all the contents of the internal memory (all files ,all folders) then copied those over the contents of the new phones internal memory?. Nandroid and TB are not normally saved to the external SD card.
Or should I just load the new rom on the new phone and just copy the TB folder to the new phone and restore from that?
Nandroid and titanium are a good start but neither of those will do things like modem files.
So I would add on the new phone do a base install of fusion 1.1 with the appropriate kernel, i think you said was your rom, then a nandroid restore and that should get you there
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I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
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I'll chime in with my opinion. Granted my opinion comes from my experiences constantly experimenting with different roms. I've flashed the phone this month almost as often as I've received actual phone calls for crying out loud!
The amount of time expended on looking for such a perfect method seems to be greater than the amount of time spent merely reconstructing an equivalent environment.
Keeping all of my contacts on google and using appbrain to have the ability to keep a known inventory of apps...I can reconstruct my daily driver environment from one rom to another in about 30 minutes max without the need to explicitly backup anything.
Though this may not work for everyone, it surely would work for most. Just a thought...
Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Titanium can save some time, but honestly not enough to write home about, at least for me. It's a matter of a few minutes different in my experience.
The reason why I do not use Titanium, despite the fact that it can save some time is that it can lead to complications especially when bouncing between 2.1 and 2.2 derivative roms, depending on what you back up of course. I'll use it when I'm staying within the domain of 2.1...or staying within the domain of 2.2. Crossing those domains however I never use Titanium. I've had more problems than not, and admittedly that may be due to my ignorance of what things are truly safe to restore across different versions of Android.
Then again I'm probably unusual compared to the OP, in that I experiment with EVERYTHING, up to and including a little bit of my own firmware cooking after the fact. Every firmware and experimental firmware and filesystem hack has at some point been on this phone, but that's how I roll.
Doing without deliberate backups hasn't drastically changed my restore times. Setting up the few apps that require setup takes a matter of seconds when I decide to use that app.
It's nice to get a fresh install - just TB and and reinstall after!
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Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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You didn't even read the title of the thread before clicking it, bro....
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if you want exact - nandroid
otherwise use TitaniumBackup Pro
This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation , that makes the most sense.
I will try this method . Thanks for taking the time.
Hey rancome7 - did you try this method? How did it work for you.. I may just do this right now as im in the same situation of wanting to clone my Vibrant to a new Vibrant
Question - wont restoring data from a nandroid after installing a new ROM cause the rom to act funny since the old data may not agree with it or overwrite something?
Can I use the backup I made on one phone on another G2? My friend wants what I've done to my G2 (theme and setup wise) on his phone.
Could I just move my backup right onto his SD card and restore from it?
Nandroid backup yeah? I assume so,... I could on an old android device so I don't see why not. Just create the correct folders on his SD ie clockwork.. backup. Let us know.
I've seen a couple of people distribute nandroid backups around in different theme threads before. As long as its the same device and set the kernel back to stock frenq (just in case) then there's no problem swaping nandroids.
It is gonna also install all the data that was on the original phone at the time of back up including text, emails, accounts, contacts etc...
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It is gonna also install all the data that was on the original phone at the time of back up including text, emails, accounts, contacts etc...
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Not to mention porn.
vision
Therefore, install it for him and then wipe/reset he gets your themes/framework-res, but none of your personal data. Or, recover on your phone, wipe/reset, make a new backup of the wiped install, and give that to him.
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i'm not sure how long my 4G hasn't been working. I tried to use it today and it would go to connect and then disconnect it would keep doing that over and over again. I'm using mikg rom the newest one. I downloaded the Wimax key checker and it says my rsa key is missing. What are the steps to retrieve. Is there a way to Get it back? Thank you for any help
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i'm not sure how long my 4G hasn't been working. I tried to use it today and it would go to connect and then disconnect it would keep doing that over and over again. I'm using mikg rom the newest one. I downloaded the Wimax key checker and it says my rsa key is missing. What are the steps to retrieve. Is there a way to Get it back? Thank you for any help
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I've seen a user recently ask the same and apparently the only way to get the RSA key is if you had a backup of the key within the recovery, other than that you might be SOL.
If you didn't have a backup with your rsa keys then your SOL sorry. If you do have a backup but u dont know if you backup up Wimax you can use a file explorer and look for a Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it and you should be set
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Wimax image found
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
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If you didn't have a backup with your rsa keys then your SOL sorry. If you do have a backup but u dont know if you backup up Wimax you can use a file explorer and look for a Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it and you should be set
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kronik420 said:
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
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Well what you could is do a backup of your current Rom and then put the Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it
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kronik420 said:
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
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If you don't need to restore the data, open up the zip, delete everything except the wimax.img , boot into recovery > backup and restore > select that zip and flash it. Should be good to go.
Yea follow what roxxorz says he's god
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evo4gnoob said:
Yea follow what roxxorz says he's god
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Lol I wouldn't go that far. Just helping out.
So since I backed up only wimax.img I can go put it in the nandroid folder, restore that and it wouldn't hurt the rom I'm using, correct?
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Does anyone else find it very time consuming to have to reinstall all of your data after every rom wipe? I find my self never leaving a rom for awhile because of the whole set up process including the Google set up.
It takes me an hour.
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I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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This is why Titanium Backup and Mybackup Root were written...
Titanium backup does all of that for you.... 20 minutes and your new ROM is setup
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I'm a solid 20-25 minutes max.
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Rooster85 said:
I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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I suppose Ti is best, but I haven't seen a ics friendly one available on the open seas
Nandroid? I only have 1 one my phone and thats 2.3.3 stock.
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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Titanium is definitely ics friendly. If you have pro (or on free.. idk), set up filters with your must have apps. When you clear data ans flash a new rom, it will verify your TB account and restore settings, including filters. Just toggle the filter and do a batch restore. I was in the same boat you were til I started doing this.
And yes, TB also has a feature to restore apps or data, extracting from a nandroid backup.
•°NS4G • ICS°•
Or you could use es file explorer. Just go to the app manager button on the central screen, by pressing it it shows up all ur apps. Choose which ones you want and back them up. After flashing just restore using file explorer in the same manner...
The apps can also be found on the sdcard under backups/apps.
Astrofile manager does exactly the same job.. your pick.
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With Titanium Backup I can be back up and running in about 10 minutes.
Sign into Gmail
Sign into Outlook
Download TB from market
Restore apps and data
Done
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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just save a copy of a TB apk to your SD.
Thats if the custom rom that has a file explorer preloaded. If not has to download also from market
Another annoying thing Google doesn't add to OS besides a restart option is a built in file explorer
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Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
Nandroid?..............
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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thats ridiculous:
1. im pretty sure ive noticed mine being around 6 minutes
2. they arent a waste of space since they are a back up file. i keep 3 always deleting the oldest one.
3. you CAN go back to them at anytime like nothing
4. i make mine every wednesday while im showering (which takes more then 6 minutes)
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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how the **** am i wrong i never said free one didn't
i said pro because that what i have
Noob question...flashed phone for first time yesterday and performed a backup using titanium free. When I flash a new rom don't you usually have to wipe data first? Would this not wipe the backup from your phone?
Thanks in advance!
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
Skillz1318 said:
So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
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Noob replying to a noob (so pardon me, if i stumble):
When flashing a new ROM, you wipe - system, dalvik cache, data and boot ( perhaps not reqd.) Wiping SD card not required when installing new ROMs, unless it's the first time, and you're putting CWR on a Nexus S... However, some developers do recommending a full SD Card wipe as well. I assume you copy the Titanium backup folders to your PC, and copy it back before restoring.. Haven't tried that yet..
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Probably will have to buy Pro, since it's getting to be a pain to restore my apps, with the permissions for each one...
Somehow, TiBackup doesn't seem to restore my homescreen settings, though I remember reading somewhere that it should do that as well..
Also, learnt the hardway not to try restoring Call logs and Messages when moving from a GB ROM to an ICS ROM... Boot loops with 2 ICS roms (Nexusbeam and Brainmaster's )
So, what all can you restore using TiB with your eyes closed?
I am still new to this phone, but with the Evo we had a zip file that wiped the system, data, cache, etc instead of remembering which ones to wipe. Maybe there is something like that for the Nexus?
I only restore apps, so I am not much help outside of that. With TB Pro all you have to do is click batch and restore all the apps with data automatically while you sit there and wait. I generally restore user apps only, maybe someone else can chime in with advice on restoring settings?
There is also an option to save backups on your drop box account, but I don't.
I am a flashaholic, one of the reasons I bought a used NS4G was because I was bored with the Evo. Titanium Backup (Pro) makes it fast and easy to restore apps and data when flashing new ROMs.
[Q] Moving from "old" nexus 4 to "new" nexus 4 via Nandroid backup?
I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.
You can do it that way but I would prefer starting fresh with only restoring app data..
Back up your current apps with carbon (recommend just doing app data), and copy the carbon folder and everything else on the sd card you need to your computer. Sign into your new phone and let the apps download. Copy the carbon folder and everything else you need onto your new device. Restore all the apps data.
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I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.
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apple never do this, google is better and cheaper
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DONT restore whole nandroid !!!
seriously you could do some damage AFAIK (at least that was the case on my HTC desire or G1 as i recall some similiar thread on xda)
feel free to restore Carbon / Titanium / Mybackup applications and their data but not the WHOLE nandroid !!!
of course i could be wrong and restoring nandroid could be 100% safe.
but as i said i do recall some guy messing things up by exactly doin that, just cant remember which phone was that.
As others have said, using Titanium or a similar backup app is probably the safest option. One thing you could try is doing a full backup but then doing an 'advanced restore' in recovery and only restoring the /data partition. I'm not entirely sure whether this will work but it was fine on my old HD2. Still, I personally see Titanium as being the best solution.
Thanks everybody for the advice, yea I have Titanium licence and I feel I bought carbon as well (I like supporting good developers), so I'll try it that way.
@dzumagos: thanks for warning, I was going to test it if it works, but after reading your post - I think I'll just stick with Titanium or Carbon.
I used a nandroid to my replacement and it worked like a charmed. Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.
on an older phone, htc evo 4g I had 2 phones, the nandroid would not restore on the second phone, the device id or something was different.
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apple never do this, google is better and cheaper
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Can anybody translate this into English for me please?
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Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.
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This is an opinion, so don't state it as a fact. I reckon I've used Titanium well over 30 times to backup/restore (I was constantly changing ROMs on my HD2) and it has never failed me. As long as you don't mess with system settings and are sensible with what you restore you should never have a bootloop when using Titanium.