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Hey guys, I know about the whole "disabling sense" trick in the manage applications folder.
But I was wondering if it were possible to take all sense related things off of my evo completely?
I switched to this phone from the Droid thinking I would really enjoy sense but in all honest I don't.
Aside from updating to the hacked 2.2 Rom. I was wondering if there was a version of 2.1 for the evo that still allowed the camera to work (I use it numerous times a day and haven't really changed roms much because of it.)
wanfaltm said:
Hey guys, I know about the whole "disabling sense" trick in the manage applications folder.
But I was wondering if it were possible to take all sense related things off of my evo completely?
I switched to this phone from the Droid thinking I would really enjoy sense but in all honest I don't.
Aside from updating to the hacked 2.2 Rom. I was wondering if there was a version of 2.1 for the evo that still allowed the camera to work (I use it numerous times a day and haven't really changed roms much because of it.)
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No, there is not a full AOSP rom for the EVO. As far as I know at least. Darch has a full AOSP rom for the hero, but doesn't develop for the evo. (Not yet )
The best you can do would be disable sense, or flash a rom with "sense removed" which basically means they have replaced the top bar and launcher. From there you can simply install AOSP apps (mail, sms, phonebook, browser, etc) The only thing that you cannot change without an AOSP full rom would be in call. That will stay Sense.
Look in my sig..not the evolution rom the other one..its the closest 2.1 rom that has the most sense crap taken out that I can find.
Thanks man, ill definitely try it out
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Ok, I admit it, I went back from Cyanogen 6.0 to a Fresh Sense UI to update my PRI and get another taste of the 4G speed. I have no intention of this being a hater, fanboy post but wow, the Sense UI environment just does not compare to Cyanogen. Cyanogen is just so much cleaner, faster and user friendly. And now with the RC for 6.1, it is simply amazing. I felt like the phone was lagging a bit under the Sense UI and felt over wrought with some silly interfaces.
I felt obligated to post this to 1. congratulate and thank Team Douche for an amazing AOSP that i never really fully appreciated until I regressed and 2. sincerely invite all of you Sense users to give Cyanogen a try. Again, I am no Android fan boy, just a guy who stumbled into XDA, thought this Rooting thing sounded interesting and gave Cyanogen a try. Now I am a very satisfied user.
I know the lack of 4G is a big deal and I do miss the speed but hopefully this will be resolved soon and when it is, I think Android will take a major step forward again.
Meh, glad you found what you like. I use a rom that had 4g and I've removed sense from it. I don't lag at all. And yes, I've run CM6, installed 3 different times. It offers nothing that a 4g rom with sense removed does. Well, besides the obvious: no 4g, horrible picture gallery, worse battery on average.
To each their own.
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/shrug i dont think anyone really cares im sure most flash roms like changing socks
You are probably right, no one cares but as Pao23 said "to each their own." And although XDA users are flash happy most Android users are still stock. I am just sharing an experience that might give someone some confidence in finding an option that might work better for them.
I wish I could run Cyanogen full time... But I use my phone for work email (exchange) and the aosp email client is horrible compared to the sense version. You can't even view the GAL on aosp, just a background lookup and resolve. On sense I can pull up the GAL and call a person directly through the company directory. I also love the copy paste features of sense as well. Full support for email tagging, way better calendar and meeting handling just to name a few. I guess I just expect a higher level of exchange support because of my prior WM experience and I know I am likely in the minority for big time exchange use.
Until someone figures out how to at least port the email over, or the aosp email client gets a huge makeover I'm stuck on sense.
I loved cyanogen... only reason I went back to sense is because of how much better the contact app is organized. I couldn't figure it out on aosp... but with sense I can manually sync my contacts rather than let the fb app try to get my contacts. That and other features of the sense contacts app. Wish i could figure it out
I didn't think about it, but I use my company directory through exchange quite often a well. I manage construction so am in the field generally.
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The Cyanogen RC 6.1 released today is supposed to contain enhancements to the mail client but to what extent I don't know as I don't use it. I can see how that could be a big limiting factor for you guys.
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I loved cyanogen... only reason I went back to sense is because of how much better the contact app is organized. I couldn't figure it out on aosp... but with sense I can manually sync my contacts rather than let the fb app try to get my contacts. That and other features of the sense contacts app. Wish i could figure it out
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really strange i fined the Cm6 contacts much better i have 600 + contacts and with sense i loads them all in to my phone :/
CheesyNutz said:
really strange i fined the Cm6 contacts much better i have 600 + contacts and with sense i loads them all in to my phone :/
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how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly
looneylu said:
how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly
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i have my "phone contacts" synced to my gmail acccount and use facebook to sync pics but with sense .... and HTC _facebook it syncs EVERY facebook contact
that's 1 of the reason i love CM6 it only syncs the contacts on my phone with facebook
looneylu said:
how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly
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Not so automatic but: Edit contact, hit menu, choose join. First name, last name, email, etc. one of those have to be similar.
Award Tour said:
Not so automatic but: Edit contact, hit menu, choose join. First name, last name, email, etc. one of those have to be similar.
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thanks, will give it a shot again... hope it works...
I think 4G is just a total battery waster, so I never even used it when I was on a Sense ROM. In my book, if you want to know the difference between a Sense ROM and CM6.1, just take LauncherPro and hit "restart LP" in the settings. In CM6.1 it takes about a second for it to completely load up. On Sense ROMs it takes anywhere from 6-10 seconds for everything to completely load. This is just unacceptable to me.
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I think 4G is just a total battery waster, so I never even used it when I was on a Sense ROM. In my book, if you want to know the difference between a Sense ROM and CM6.1, just take LauncherPro and hit "restart LP" in the settings. In CM6.1 it takes about a second for it to completely load up. On Sense ROMs it takes anywhere from 6-10 seconds for everything to completely load. This is just unacceptable to me.
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Just did it, took a little under 2 seconds.
Not to mention sitting here at my desk at work, using my phone as wifi so the IT guys can't see what Roms/kernals I download, I'm putting out 4g wifi rather then crappy Sprint 1mb/s 3g wifi.
Install said sense rom, remove sense, done.
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Just did it, took a little under 2 seconds.
Not to mention sitting here at my desk at work, using my phone as wifi so the IT guys can't see what Roms/kernals I download, I'm putting out 4g wifi rather then crappy Sprint 1mb/s 3g wifi.
Install said sense rom, remove sense, done.
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What's your setup? I've got 4 5x5 homescreens packed with icons and another full of scrollable widgets. Even OCed it took forever.
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What's your setup? I've got 4 5x5 homescreens packed with icons and another full of scrollable widgets. Even OCed it took forever.
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I just have the one row of icons on each page plus the littles like Bwidgets, search, control bar. I've never loaded my screens up because I don't like the look, but I'll put a bunch on there and see how it does and get back to ya.
What all widgets just so I know and can try to imitate? I run 5x5 too.
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I just have the one row of icons on each page plus the littles like Bwidgets, search, control bar. I've never loaded my screens up because I don't like the look, but I'll put a bunch on there and see how it does and get back to ya.
What all widgets just so I know and can try to imitate? I run 5x5 too.
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Pure Messenger (50 message max), Pure Calendar (6 month view), Palmary Weather Pro Quarter, TerraClock Clock (S), and Extended Controls (1x9 switches).
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TheBiles said:
Pure Messenger (50 message max), Pure Calendar (6 month view), Palmary Weather Pro Quarter, TerraClock Clock (S), and Extended Controls (1x9 switches).
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Nevermind, you pay for too much stuff.
As a question though, I've never found myself restarting my LP before now, why do you do it often enough to actually influence your Rom choice?
Pao23 said:
Nevermind, you pay for too much stuff.
As a question though, I've never found myself restarting my LP before now, why do you do it often enough to actually influence your Rom choice?
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It does it on its own because I use so many awesome memory-hogging widgets. It's just like 2 or 3 times a day while I'm using another app or something.
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I have been an iPhone developer since 2007. You can only write so many programs for it before it gets boring. I just got an Aria today.
What is the best rom build? I like the SenseUI, but is it better to have all the customization that the other main rom besides liberated 2.2?
I also adore the picture I saw of an Android background with sort of a multicolored gridline animated background. What rom runs this? (for future reference)
That's the animated Nexus Wallpaper. Aria stock does not support live wallpapers.
The CyanogenMod Rom has a pretty sexy version of it. I've been using CM for about 3 months now. I just recently went back Sense, cause I had to get a replacement phone due to damage. Took all of 5 hrs to get rid of it!
I love CM and the ability to customize.
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I have been an iPhone developer since 2007. You can only write so many programs for it before it gets boring. I just got an Aria today.
What is the best rom build? I like the SenseUI, but is it better to have all the customization that the other main rom besides liberated 2.2?
I also adore the picture I saw of an Android background with sort of a multicolored gridline animated background. What rom runs this? (for future reference)
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CyanogenMod 6.1 is a AOSP (Android Open Source Project) of Froyo 2.2 that has the Live Wallpaper you described.
So I guess the guess the customizable one is more beneficial than the liberated?
Also, which one is newest/most stable/supports all of Aria's hardware?
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So I guess the guess the customizable one is more beneficial than the liberated?
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I would think that anything you developed on the CM 6.1 should run on both of ROMs where as if you developed something on Liberated that was dependent on HTC Sense, then that could possibly limit it to Liberated ROM users.
Regards,
Tom
Whoa there. It's a little soon to be thinking about development. I still don't completely know my way around the settings.
I saw there was a leak of 2.2 with SenseUI. Is this something to look into?
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I saw there was a leak of 2.2 with SenseUI. Is this something to look into?
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That would be the Liberated FR ROM.
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I've been doing searches in all the Desire Z forums and I couldn't find anything about installing HTC sense and all its goodies on CM7. Is it possible? I just got my Desire Z today so I'm still making attempts at learning the ins and outs of android.
EDIT: doing some extra searching off XDA, it seems that because of HTC's extensive work on the rom itself, it will not work with CM. I guess I'll have to pick and choose... that would lead to me wondering what alternative can I get to get as much flexibility as CM and still have sense....
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I've been doing searches in all the Desire Z forums and I couldn't find anything about installing HTC sense and all its goodies on CM7. Is it possible? I just got my Desire Z today so I'm still making attempts at learning the ins and outs of android.
EDIT: doing some extra searching off XDA, it seems that because of HTC's extensive work on the rom itself, it will not work with CM. I guess I'll have to pick and choose... that would lead to me wondering what alternative can I get to get as much flexibility as CM and still have sense....
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HTC Sense is closedsource while CyanogenMod is based on ASOP.
mputtr said:
I've been doing searches in all the Desire Z forums and I couldn't find anything about installing HTC sense and all its goodies on CM7. Is it possible? I just got my Desire Z today so I'm still making attempts at learning the ins and outs of android.
EDIT: doing some extra searching off XDA, it seems that because of HTC's extensive work on the rom itself, it will not work with CM. I guess I'll have to pick and choose... that would lead to me wondering what alternative can I get to get as much flexibility as CM and still have sense....
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What parts of sense were you wanting. There lots of apps you can use that can give you a sense look. If you want sense style widgets download launcher pro plus. You can theme the dock bar to look like the sense dock.
Use beautiful widgets to get the sense clock and weather, including the weather animations when you unlock the phone.
Have a look in the general android themes section for a theme that has just been released for the built in CM7 theme chooser and it will make you notifaction bar look like sense.
Hope this helps
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Yep,... what he said,.... also,... "dialer one" is a good alternative to the sense dailer
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Here's a theme that'll make it a bit more sensey.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970459
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Ok, i'll look into all of that. I finally took the leap from my old touchpro to android, so im starting from scratch and back in square newbie.
The main thing that i wanted was the ability to link contacts to facebook as well a "favorites" that works like HTCs widgets. Im also still looking for a voice command app that does not access the internet so that it will work purely off my contact list. I loved the winmo voice command as to how it structured the responses and im looking for something like that
Launcher pro plus has the ense style widgets,.... and there is an app to run from pc that syncs contacts with facebook. Google "android facebook contact sync", if you dont have any luck finding it, drop me a pm, i'll have a butchers for you tonight or tomorrow when i can.
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I'll check it out. Now I just have to find a way to transfer contacts and sms/mms from winmo to android
Heya, did a quick search on market and couldn't find the app to sync contacts with facebook...
I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.
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I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.
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DHD will be getting official ICS before the end of August
Good to see you're ditching Sense (less eyecandy: more RAM free & better performance), not sure if we have something like FS, maybe rip it from a sense ROM and install it?
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How to get a Friendstream apk? Would that install on any rooted phone?
Also, I forgot to mention a key app. Mail. The mail interface on Sense is nice and clean. On some of these other apps, like K-9, it's not as nice looking. Also, I need features like auto-BCC all emails. And what I like about Sense Mail is I have two mail accounts, one Yahoo, one POP, and both homescreen icons actually tell me how many new mails there are. What's the mail app everyone is using when they switch away from Sense?
GuyInTheCorner said:
DHD will be getting official ICS before the end of August
Good to see you're ditching Sense (less eyecandy: more RAM free & better performance), not sure if we have something like FS, maybe rip it from a sense ROM and install it?
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You can't. FS requires a Sense framework to run at all. If it were that easy, someone would've done it already.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
You can't. FS requires a Sense framework to run at all. If it were that easy, someone would've done it already.
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Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
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GuyInTheCorner said:
Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
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Never happening
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asif9t9 said:
I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.
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I know what you mean about Sense. I have tried as well and always came back to Sense..
A replacement for Friendstream.. Here are a couple:
- Seesmic (Facebook and Twitter)
- Multipost ( but I think Facebook doesn't work)
- HootSuite
- Tweetdeck
GuyInTheCorner said:
Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
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CM7 with Sense framework would just be a desensed rom.
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asif9t9 said:
How to get a Friendstream apk? Would that install on any rooted phone?
Also, I forgot to mention a key app. Mail. The mail interface on Sense is nice and clean. On some of these other apps, like K-9, it's not as nice looking. Also, I need features like auto-BCC all emails. And what I like about Sense Mail is I have two mail accounts, one Yahoo, one POP, and both homescreen icons actually tell me how many new mails there are. What's the mail app everyone is using when they switch away from Sense?
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For mail use: InoMail
Very clean, iOS looking style, and very fast etc, great mail
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Yup - FS is hard to do without. However... check out APW widgets. The pro version has a friendstream widget which is a perfect replacement. The non-pro you have to have separate twitter and facebook. The calendar widget is also the best sense replacement I have found.
I'd stick with sense, but have a DZ so sense eats up too much RAM.
What I miss most in non-Sense roms is actually the camera. I tried and bought several other camera apps (360 camera, Zoom FX), but none seem as fast or polished as the Sense camera app. Especially with regard to focussing. It autofocusses on faces or otherwise just in the center, but you can always overrule it with tap-to-focus. I haven't found this in any other camera (yet?)
perhaps its just that I have become accustomed to that camera app.
for me, that is the only app that keeps dragging me back to sense roms.
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What I miss most in non-Sense roms is actually the camera. I tried and bought several other camera apps (360 camera, Zoom FX), but none seem as fast or polished as the Sense camera app. Especially with regard to focussing. It autofocusses on faces or otherwise just in the center, but you can always overrule it with tap-to-focus. I haven't found this in any other camera (yet?)
perhaps its just that I have become accustomed to that camera app.
for me, that is the only app that keeps dragging me back to sense roms.
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Try using the MIUI camera app
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Never ever Sense
everything else is better than sense.
but the best is an stock android so like google thought it should be.
I like some things about sense and have had my days where I missed it a little. But IMO after I used jelly bean its pure Google for me from now on. Thanks for the alternatives!
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is there an alternative gui to sence ?
Try Android Pro Widgets. Works for me like a charm....
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If their were a sense contender I would have left HTC long time ago ,so no there is no sense alternative,all other launchers are the same ,boring.sense is unique
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If their were a sense contender I would have left HTC long time ago ,so no there is no sense alternative,all other launchers are the same ,boring.sense is unique
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*Sigh* yes it is unique.... at least.
Did i miss it the last 18 months? .... This gonna be a hard decissi..... Nope!
Miui has nice style and good cam, too and runs like a kitten on crack :cyclops:
Even though,in my opinion, Miui is no competition to latest ics/jellybean vanilla feeling.
I like Sense for Calendar, Mail, and (mosttly) intuitive dialler. Maybe except mail, no replacements. Therefore, Sense ROMs.
Every time I try switching I keep coming back. The simple Email icons for my two email addresses, it shows the number of NEW messages. I tried Kaiten Mail and the ugly mail icon (looks like a fire hydrant), shows UNREAD messages. The problem with Unread messages is that for my POP email address, I read on my computer, or my phone. So my POP email on my phone is basically all Unread. So the icon shows me 99 Unread all the time. Useless. I just want to see NEW messages, and that's what my simple Sense 3.5 does. Sense is just better.
For Friendstream, if I click a tweet with a link to an article, the article opens up in Friendstream. With other apps like Android Pro Widgets, you have to click the link to the article and open up your browser. Grrrrrr.