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I traded my g1 for an hd2. Gave it to my wife and she loves it. Only problem is the SOD. Until a solid kernel fix is made she figured this out and no SOD so far. She uses Aldiko a lot and you can adjust the contrast with a swipe down the left side of the screen. She turns it all the way down and its completely black. Swipe up the left side and screen is back on. Cheap fix I know but works for now till the real bug could be ironed out.
the only time i had an sod is when i tried 2.11 radio..
what radio you using?
I am using the tmobile radio 2.10.50. Or something like that.
if its related to radio, I have 2.08 and never had one sod
What rom are you using? Also which winmo rom? I know its not a radio problem.
So, could it be, that radio 2.11 and higher kill the screen?
Do you recommend to use only radio 2.08?
I am from germany and a week ago my touchscreen was defect and had to be changed for a new one. Could this happen because of the wrong radio?
SODs have nothing to do with the radio. it has to do with the SD card. i can confirm this by taking my sd card and putting it in 2 different hd2s with 2 different radios and i had no SOD what so ever but when i would use a different sdcard i would get SODs on both
I've heard that higher class SD cards have better results. But sods are typically causes by the g sensor bottle necking when the phone goes to sleep. Aldiko prevents phone sleep but you can shut the screen off by turning the contrast down all the way with it. Swipe down off. Swipe up on. Like I said cheap fix but works for the time being.
I use a class 2 sd card that came with the phone. the only form of SOD i experience is the screen powering on but it remaining black which is only temp, as a few turns on attempts anbd its fine. which i realy wouldnt consider screen of death since it never sticks like that permantly to requiire a reboot.
That's lucky for you its a common bug at the moment. I have to baby my wife's hd2. I'm a bit jealous. Lol
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I've heard that higher class SD cards have better results. But sods are typically causes by the g sensor bottle necking when the phone goes to sleep. Aldiko prevents phone sleep but you can shut the screen off by turning the contrast down all the way with it. Swipe down off. Swipe up on. Like I said cheap fix but works for the time being.
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thats not true. i use the stock 16gb class 2 sd that came with the phone (TMOUS) HD2 and i have no SODs at all. I experienced SODs with a PNY 8gb Class 4 so higher class doesnt mean less SODs. it has to do with how the sd is formatted and if the sd has errors on it.
That's what I'm using the 16 gig that it came with. I'm just saying what I've read. Now that you said that I know I can save money and not have to but a expensive SD card lol.
Viewing the answers it seems to me that nobody really knows what is causing the SODs... someone said that could be the SD CARD, others that is on the ROM side, others Radio, others GSENSORS... in my opinion have to do with the early stage of Android development in HD2, maybe Cotulla will be able to release a new Kernel which fix the SODs and Freezes problems...
Use chuckydroidrom with radio 2.12.50
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
The Radio is the problem
ok Ive done this for 3 phones and I can tell u that SOD has only to do with the Radio. The only thing ive seen that the rom affects its the robot voice.
get this Radio Leo_RADIO_2.12.50.02_2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9GU2FF3X
And Im a 100 percent sure is gonna work and if u want get the chunkydroid just in case.
Also the 3 phones which ive put Android had been from tmobile USA.
Using chuckydroidrom, supherhd2 1.2, class 4 sd card -- I don't get SOD other than sometimes waking from sleep. Either it's the blank screen which just takes a few tries, or it shows up but is unresponsive, then the wifi reads "error."
Unfortunately that happens a few times a day.
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Also using radio 2.12.50.02
Great Success!!!
Guys,
I have had great success running Miri's rom / 2.11 radio / turned windows mobile sense off / running Nexus One build FRG33 9-8-10
I have had now screen of death, no audio issues, no bluetooth issues, camera & camcording work in 5mp, wifi working, wifi portable hotspot is working (I desperately need this because of my job), no freezing, all apps working, my NES/SNES emulator works like a charm, no freezing issues, Quandrant speeds range from 1550-1650 (low speeds when snes emulator running in background).
My only issue is that, when in sleep mode, the orange light stays on constantly, but even with this, I have had battery life of 36+ hours. This setup is ready for daily use.
If anyone can help me get that orange light out, I would be much obliged.
you would think after all the great development going on here, this issue (the biggest issue it seems) would have been the first to be sorted out. I for one am pulling my hair out over it. i get it constantly on all the builds I try except for darkstones which kills my battery in 2 hours. running stock rom, 2.08 radio, stock 16 gig sd card
i have tried radio 2.10.50.26 and 2.12.50.02.2
all have SOD. all rebooted when i tried to log in at the market place
i have tried nearly all the roms
it seems like only mattc is the most stable..
but he hasn't have any updates for the last 10 days.
thanks
jack
jack9999 said:
i have tried radio 2.10.50.26 and 2.12.50.02.2
all have SOD. all rebooted when i tried to log in at the market place
i have tried nearly all the roms
it seems like only mattc is the most stable..
but he hasn't have any updates for the last 10 days.
thanks
jack
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Cant agree with you on that. I have also tried different roms, and stayed on Darkstone 2.1 from 18.8.10. I use 2.12.50.02.2, Elegancia v10, Class 2 16gb card which is almost full and I have only 2 issues:
1. SOD after you try to wake the phone up and immediately put it to sleep (Power button, and a second after again). It takes about 20 seconds until it starts working again. My suspicion, gsensor/sdcard, nothing to do with radio.
2. Bluetooth, A2DP controls do not work on my Bluetooth headset.
So, for me, this is the most stable.
BTW, I can run a battery for around 24 hours with gmail push, exchange push (through Touchdown, not native Android program) and average usage of calls, SMS, Wifi, Youtube and Market..
UPDATE Dec 9:
ALL i did was use Autoboot (Exceller Multiple Build Loader) set at 3 seconds
Try this setup if all else fails
Rom: ChuckyRom Lite HERE
Radio: 2.15.50.14 HERE
Droid: HyperDroid 1.7 HERE
AutoBoot: Exceller Multiple Build Loader for Android/Ubuntu HERE (Comes preinstalled in ChuckyRom)
PLEASE KEEP LEAVING RESULTS AS I TRY THEM, AND CAN UPDATE THE FIRST POST
10/25:
I have been reading and in a recent post I read HAVE THE BUTTON LIGHTS ON WHEN U BOOT ANDROID and u will save battery and its true try this!
AGAIN, PRESS A BUTTON IN WM AND HAVE THE KEYPAD LIGHTS ON.
THEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BOOT ANDROID.
I AM CURRENTLY GETTING 3MA WITH SETCPU
I had to try this twice before it worked but THE KEY IS TO BOOT ANDROID AS SOON AS THE KEYPAD LIGHYS TURN ON!
chrisizzle492 said:
I have been reading and in a recent post I read HAVE THE BUTTON LIGHTS ON WHEN U BOOT ANDROID and u will save battery and its true try this!
AGAIN, PRESS A BUTTON IN WM AND HAVE THE KEYPAD LIGHTS ON.
THEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BOOT ANDROID.
I AM CURRENTLY GETTING 3MA WITH SETCPU
I had to try this twice before it worked but THE KEY IS TO BOOT ANDROID AS SOON AS THE KEYPAD LIGHYS TURN ON!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I just posted this in another battery thread but I think the real key is booting Android as quickly as possible and not really the lights so much as I have achieved similar results just using Exceller Multiple Build Loader app and not even touching the keys/lights. C/P from the other thread-->
Tried different techniques to get better battery and found that even on the same build with exact same setup would give varying results. Here's my setup that I would like others to try and post their results. SetCpu with screen off profile set to 245min/max 100 priority and whatever main profile you like; but use conservative preferably or interactive for best battery performance. Any task killer that auto kills all tasks with screen off (be sure to add SetCPU to ignore list). And here is the most important step, use an auto android booting app with minimum boot time setting. I have been doing some experiments with this and found that if you boot into Android as soon as possible, it seems to give better battery performance as opposed to playing around in WM then booting Android. Have tried this with several WM/Android combos. For the first time ever I'm able to get comparable battery performance out of Android as WM. I'm running a bare bones WM (but should work with and WM rom) and using Exceller Multiple Build Loader app set to 3 secs. Even running several sense builds I was able to achieve 3-7 mA draw during standby according to current widget. Took my phone off the charger at about 6:30 a.m. and it is now 11:15 and I still have 25% battery left after pretty heavy usage on standard battery. This is as good or better than what I usually get from WM! Hope this helps.
This was the one thing that was ruining my Android on HD2 experience. I finally got this step right after a few tries.
I've been using it for two days now, and getting consistent 5-8mA readings on standby. There's definitely something to either booting Android quickly and/or hitting the back button to turn on the LED backlight on the buttons.
I just checked my phone, and it's reading 5mA.
And I don't even have SetCPU on my phone. Should I try it out?
I think HTC winmo sense is the culprit. I disable the sense in winmo and get very low Android battery usage during standby. Sometimes around 3mA.
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I also suggest to disable sense and put wmo in offline status.
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leeyunfook said:
I think HTC winmo sense is the culprit. I disable the sense in winmo and get very low Android battery usage during standby. Sometimes around 3mA.
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why should turning off sense be good when it comes to battery usage under android? this would mean winmo and sense are running in the background of android...which is not the fact!
chrisizzle492 said:
I have been reading and in a recent post I read HAVE THE BUTTON LIGHTS ON WHEN U BOOT ANDROID and u will save battery and its true try this!
AGAIN, PRESS A BUTTON IN WM AND HAVE THE KEYPAD LIGHTS ON.
THEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BOOT ANDROID.
I AM CURRENTLY GETTING 3MA WITH SETCPU
I had to try this twice before it worked but THE KEY IS TO BOOT ANDROID AS SOON AS THE KEYPAD LIGHYS TURN ON!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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You had to try this 2 times before it worked yet you claim this is the final solution for battery drain problems?
i agree with you guys but let me just throw this observation into the mix here. i've read somrthing here in these forums regarding the sd card that came with the phone had something wrong with it ( don't really remember the exact issue ) and if you swapped it out for another sd card, there would be less SODs and a better battery as well.
i've tested this as i have a 4gb sd card and have had no problems whatsoever. everything runs smooth as silk. and, once again, the battery life is great.
NOTE: i do use the keypads lights on trick as well.
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You had to try this 2 times before it worked yet you claim this is the final solution for battery drain problems?
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Please re-read the post. i updated
Most of us don't need to do keypad gymnastics to get those same results.
Just use the exceller boot loader and set it for 3 or 6 seconds. Having stuff turned off till you need it is a great way to preserve the battery.
apallohadas said:
Most of us don't need to do keypad gymnastics to get those same results.
Just use the exceller boot loader and set it for 3 or 6 seconds. Having stuff turned off till you need it is a great way to preserve the battery.
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Ya thanks for the comment, i was doin this in between class so i didnt have time to just try the Excellor Boot Loader!!!
Updated the First Post Thanks!!!!
well now we hav almost 48 hrs of battery life on android... and moreover i info radio 2.14.xxx is better than 2.15.xxx in battery life...
Not working for me
Sorry thats all not working for me
i'm still having about 60 mA with VBNROM reloaded - 2.15.50.14/ Bangster 1.5 / Scandisk class 2 - 8 GB
I realley tryed everything and have read a lot of posts. I'm really distressed at the moment.
The best battery cosumption i ever experienced was with mccm 2.5 But that one was not stable for me.
Baltheruis said:
Sorry thats all not working for me
i'm still having about 60 mA with VBNROM reloaded - 2.15.50.14/ Bangster 1.5 / Scandisk class 2 - 8 GB
I realley tryed everything and have read a lot of posts. I'm really distressed at the moment.
The best battery cosumption i ever experienced was with mccm 2.5 But that one was not stable for me.
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1. Are you using SetCPU with a 245 max screen off profile? 2. Are you disabling WiFi, data and GPS when not using it? 3. Are you using a auto task killer with only SetCPU and Current Widget in ignore list? Also, I don't have 3g in my area but if you do I guess it could account for increased battery drain. If you're in an area that is in/out of coverage, this will cause higher battery drain as well. I get spotty coverage where I work and the battery drain is terrible.
Try mdeejay sense rEVOlution 2.0 androind build with your vbn wom rom - works great !
Try this:
1. switch phone radio off in winmo
2. power off and charge until green light comes on
3. boot winwmo on vbn, then immediately click on EBL
4. boot into mdeejay sense rEVO 2.0
5. turn sense off and use LauncherPro
I get *very good* battery life now with avg 5-7mA draw as evidenced by currentwidget.
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Baltheruis said:
Sorry thats all not working for me
i'm still having about 60 mA with VBNROM reloaded - 2.15.50.14/ Bangster 1.5 / Scandisk class 2 - 8 GB
I realley tryed everything and have read a lot of posts. I'm really distressed at the moment.
The best battery cosumption i ever experienced was with mccm 2.5 But that one was not stable for me.
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try my complete setup
Baltheruis said:
Sorry thats all not working for me
i'm still having about 60 mA with VBNROM reloaded - 2.15.50.14/ Bangster 1.5 / Scandisk class 2 - 8 GB
I realley tryed everything and have read a lot of posts. I'm really distressed at the moment.
The best battery cosumption i ever experienced was with mccm 2.5 But that one was not stable for me.
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a few things to try
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boot into android as quick as possible, 3 or 6 seconds
disable gps location in android
activate the lights when haret is loading
disable wifi & 3g
disable hotspot
disable sync
running htc sense? try a build without it
and many more attempts
im finally at 3mA in airplane mode, 5mA on phone, 7mA with wifi, 20mA with wifi & 3g
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try my complete setup
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I want to try that version of Android, but I don't want to mess with my good setup...
Baltheruis said:
Sorry thats all not working for me
i'm still having about 60 mA with VBNROM reloaded - 2.15.50.14/ Bangster 1.5 / Scandisk class 2 - 8 GB
I realley tryed everything and have read a lot of posts. I'm really distressed at the moment.
The best battery cosumption i ever experienced was with mccm 2.5 But that one was not stable for me.
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no need for keypad gymnastics or other weird and wonderful combinations - before booting into Android, just use KeypadLedControl to force the keypad lights to stay on, then fire up Android using your loader of choice (I use Android Loader, modified to automatically call KeypadLedControl to turn on keypad lights, instead of just letting it run on WinMo startup).
Been rebooting 5-6 times now with consistent low 5-10ma standby current.
Link to KeypadLedControl for lazy people: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605731
The Solution....kind of ;-)
Thx for u'r replys.
I considered all u'r tips and sry dudes it didn't work for me I think the problem was related to the Bangster Build, even though i have been lonesome with my issues.
I changed the LED lib, and tryed to let the LEDs on while booting, set CPU is in condervativ mode/screen off 245min/245max 100% interactiv. And yep, GPS and Wifi where off. I even searched for any SD-Card related Problems in regestry. But Chucky did some great work i think. (i switched again concernig to faster boot)
At some time i think each Leo is different to the other. I changed to Hyperdroid 1.7 with 2.14 Radio and the results are definitely mind blasting.
12 hours on the road, did some surfing, some calls, 2 h musik.
Strange though i used the same kernel and same Radio. Something must have gone wrong by flashing Bangster or something.
Hi all,
I'm planning on a format of my SD card. Before I do so I figured I'd created a new thread here on the subject...
I use Darkstone1337's SuperRAM 1.5 Froyo build which works almost perfectly EXCEPT since changing from a 256mb data.img to a 2gb data.img I'm now getting the 'sleep of death', i.e. phone taking forever to wake from calls and standby often. At first I thought it was down to importing data from my previous data.img so I formatted and started over but I have the same problem with an untouched 2gb build.
So, if anyone has any suggestions on SoD and how I should format my SD card next (allocation unit size, etc.) I'd be interested to know. A couple of threads say Sleep of Death and the SD card may go hand in hand.
I find it very strange that I never experienced the problems on the default 256mb data.img!
Replying to my own post... I found that the Sleep of Death issue was down to my Class 4 MicroSD card, this one: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/MyMemory/MyMemory-16GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class--4
Write speeds were ridiculous... fluctuating between 0.25mb/sec and a max of 3mb/sec, which is obviously below the minimum standard for a Class 4 card. So likely faulty. I tested the card with h2testw which also confirmed the slow read/write speeds. So I've switched to a Class 2 which is averaging about 5mb/sec which is certainly decent for a Class 2 and best of all it's fixed the SoD problems! SuperRAM 1.5 is running great again, even on the 2gb data.img. I can also boot builds that for god only knows what reason were refusing to boot on the Class 4 card (like Darkstone's SuperRAM Sense 0.1)
Formatted my Class 2 to FAT32 with everything on default in Windows 7. No problems.
SuperRAM now only has a couple of seconds lag max when switching on from standby and perhaps 3-4 secs max when waking during/after a call. These issues are being discussed in another thread though and look to be hardware/kernal related so not an issue of the SD card.
Yes. but we did not know what is the best format for Andriod, I got 2Gbyte SD with my Samsung, it was formated as FAT, a 1.5 mbyte data folder of seesmic twitter client takes 24.8mbyte from actual desk space !, there should be a better format, I wanted to try the Fat32 to minimize cluster size, will check, if you have any details please share, thanks
Hey guys, would love to get some help.
Flashed 2.08HSPL to my phone a while back with radio 2.15.50.14
Using Transcend 8GB Class 6 Fat32 format with 32kb buffer.
I've tried multiple Android versions (MDJ, PPDSHIFT, DL Desire) and they all often freeze. Either within a day, or literally after I load the ROM for the first time and doesn't seem to be stable. The longest I've ever had a ROM with no freezing is PPD Shifts 2.3.2 V6 Gingerbread series. Then one day it started freezing.
As in freezing, the screen freezes, I can't turn the phone off at all. I leave it hoping it would un freeze, but nothing works. The only way is to take out the battery.
Is there something wrong with HSPL 3? Should I try to reload it? Or fix the radio?
I've upgraded from a class 2 SD card and I thought it works better, but no avail.
Should i stop going SD but go to NAND? Would that stop freezing?
Or is it my phone?
I'm running Stock Windows 6.15
Please, any help would be great. This phone has so much potential but it just freezes.
It sounds like the quite common overheating problem some hd2s have. Mine gets really hot in the bottom part under heavy usage and freezes afterwards. I think it its covered by the warranty though.
I'm having the same problem. Once it gets warm the phone freezes and when I turn on data connection also. Without a sim card in place phone works just fine hmm..
I got the same issue few times.
I am guessing you are heavy user too!
Mine even got reboot automatically when its overheated -.-!
sniper3 said:
I got the same issue few times.
I am guessing you are heavy user too!
Mine even got reboot automatically when its overheated -.-!
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Anyone managed to sort this yet?
Its happening to my hd2 all the time.
If I turn data and GPS on....game over...freezes straight away and sometimes loud buzzing
Noise.
Have to pull battery out to reboot.
Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
This might sound hilarious; however, after updating to blackseven mango, my phone has not rebooted for the past 6 hours (It is infamous for rebooting every hour or so). I am going to test this out one more night and see what the problem is. I'm sure it is not related to the roms; however, it would restart with every NoDo Rom, but for some reason, it hasn't with this one.
sd card
Its most likely your SD card I personally have never had any problems with restarting and I have the Samsung SD card that came with my us hd2
Guyden2 said:
Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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Hi
I have had problems with alot of reboots, up till 5 per hour and some times when booting it just get stuck on a white og green screen so that i have to pull the battery. But that was untill i found this yesterday, i filled my phone up(from over 10 gb free to only 2gb free) and now it is running sooooo smooth not a reboot yet
So people with random reboots might noth have to by a new sd card. ???
Wish i found this before i ordered a 16 GB class 10 hehehe
Just a quick report back on this, after filling my sd card up with music i only had ONE reboot last night in stead of rebooting many times per day else it has been running all smoth.
So i must say this is a great result by just adding music to the phone
HTC HD2 with cm7 hyperdroid
Hi my phone randomly reboots a lot ive rooted it and flashed cm7 hyper droid- v10.4 "estatic eagle" android version 2.3.3 build #GRI40 a long time ago but now recently it just started randomly rebooting. i believe it started when i tried to update the rom from rom manager to a newer cm7 hyperdroid but for some odd reason my phone also doesnt reboot into recovery mode to put a new rom on it. please help. its getting irratating. thank you