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I recently read on gsmarena that the touch hd has a proximity sensor for auto turn off.
is this true?
if yes, could we use this sensor to automatically answer a call for example
maybe we can add to the sensory sdk of koushi a class for the proximity sensor.
just a thought
tommy.touma said:
I recently read on gsmarena that the touch hd has a proximity sensor for auto turn off.
is this true?
if yes, could we use this sensor to automatically answer a call for example
maybe we can add to the sensory sdk of koushi a class for the proximity sensor.
just a thought
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I'm guessing that the "proximity" sensor that has been discussed is actually the light sensor beside the earpiece. This can be used to turn the backlight off when applied to your ear during a call. using this as a means to asnwer a call would not be reliable, and what would happen if the phone is in your pocket etc etc.
ardsar said:
I'm guessing that the "proximity" sensor that has been discussed is actually the light sensor beside the earpiece. This can be used to turn the backlight off when applied to your ear during a call. using this as a means to asnwer a call would not be reliable, and what would happen if the phone is in your pocket etc etc.
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i think is just like the iphone when u place it next to ear the it goes off to save battery ?
It doesn't work like the iPhone.
The HD, like all the devices using a Qualcomm chip, is just switching off the screen when a call starts, the phone next to the ear or not. It just doesn't use the light sensor at all during a call.
I asked for a soft that permit the use of the light and G sensor during a call to switch off/on the screen. You'll find more info here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456
lpaso said:
It doesn't work like the iPhone.
The HD, like all the devices using a Qualcomm chip, is just switching off the screen when a call starts, the phone next to the ear or not. It just doesn't use the light sensor at all during a call.
I asked for a soft that permit the use of the light and G sensor during a call to switch off/on the screen. You'll find more info here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456
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I'm looking for this.. If you find a solution send me a PM, I will do the same
Thanks!
Proximty and resume
The proximty sensor will turn off the screen when places the phone next to your ear. I guess this help to prevent accidental touch on buttons. However, I have a problem with my new Touch Pro2:
When the phone is placed away from your ear, the screen will go back to home instead of previous phone dial pad. When I listen to my voice mail or join a conference, a lot of navigation is needed in order to dial the command buttons.(press a 7 for next, or # for ....)
Any chance to make the screen resume at previous location? My first improvement suggestion to HTC.
Concerning this sensor, funny I thought it was some myth as mine never seemed to work or only half assed. Then after flashing many diff roms and settling on the "energy" Rom I see that much to my pleasent surprise it works perfect, just as intended. This is a fantastic feature and my first device it has actually functioned properly on.
mobiler2 said:
The proximty sensor will turn off the screen when places the phone next to your ear. I guess this help to prevent accidental touch on buttons. However, I have a problem with my new Touch Pro2:
When the phone is placed away from your ear, the screen will go back to home instead of previous phone dial pad. When I listen to my voice mail or join a conference, a lot of navigation is needed in order to dial the command buttons.(press a 7 for next, or # for ....)
Any chance to make the screen resume at previous location? My first improvement suggestion to HTC.
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hi
yeh there is a setting somewhere that lets you go straight to home when you turn the device on instead of loading the screen it was already on.
its set to default but you can change it.
i forgot what the app was called though, i think it was possibly an option in hd tweak or something
THERE IS NO proximity sensor in touch hd
However I've been told that "Touch Incall Screen Tweak" does beautifully on the HD and probably it's what you´re asking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
leobox1 said:
THERE IS NO proximity sensor in touch hd
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From what I've been reading spec wise I believe your correct, but I cannot explain then why when I make a call with the HD up to my ear the screen goes dark then when I pull it away to input a number from the kp it lights up. Is it the light sensor then? I'll check in the NRG energy ROM forum and search for some info as I'm running his ROM. I love this feature btw and have not noticed it in any other ROM I've tried.
cbreze said:
From what I've been reading spec wise I believe your correct, but I cannot explain then why when I make a call with the HD up to my ear the screen goes dark then when I pull it away to input a number from the kp it lights up. Is it the light sensor then? I'll check in the NRG energy ROM forum and search for some info as I'm running his ROM. I love this feature btw and have not noticed it in any other ROM I've tried.
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That's "Touch Incall Screen Tweak" in action!
Thanks for the response. Works a treat.
I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
upping cause i'm intersted too
im believe this feature on the iphone is provided by a proximity sensor, you can probable do this with the light sensor but it would only work in the day time bc at night the screen would always be off...
not unless you use the gsensor too? i think if you work with the light sensor and the gsensor..you can get it to work. maybe have it only work when theres a active call.
This is an extremely good idea!
now if I was only a programmer
i'd love to see this feature on my diamond/blackstone too, i always have problems with the cursor jumping somewhere else when taking a note while in call...
theres already a thread about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456
sweet. thanks
I really love that fuction on iPhone as well. I found some program that can adjust the Light Sensor to dim the back light as you want. I never try it but surely not work in the dark. If any news on this issue, pls advise!!
I think the g-sensor is the answer, off course in combination with light sensor. If someone could make an app that would turn off the backlight during an active call AND when phone is in vertical position; this could resolve difficulties with light sensor.
aonavy said:
I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
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There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
fireweed said:
There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution... like i already said, the problem is e.g. that if you are on the phone and the person on the other end tells you a phonenumber you need to write down - the cursor always jumps to somewhere else as soon as you put your phone back to your ear (and then take it away again ofcourse to continue to notice the number).
ive messed with those apps before with no luch for what i was looking for. Simple app...JUST for incall and end call. light goesout..then comes back in. those other apps are pretty detaild
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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution...
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Very true, but unfortunately this hardware does not have the same sensor as the iPhone so you can only fake it so much.
I'd love to see this developed as well. But just wondering as some have mentioned using the gsensor; what if your laying down using the phone?
any developers out there. this would be awsome. make it simple. only works when the phone is in call. the gsensor sensing the phone from 0-45 degrees and only 0-5% light. seems sorta simple when u look at it like that.
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
millab said:
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
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My diamond does this already?
mine didnt. very weird.
For what it's worth, S2U2 v.1.42 has an option called "blank screen on call" which essentially disables the touch screen and makes it turn off when a call is connected (both sent and received). To get the screen to turn back on, simply press any hardware button. (Note though that pressing the END button while on a call will end the call as well as turning on the screen.)
I've found this feature to be VERY useful and figured it's as close as we're going to get for the time being .
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the proximity sensor.
It's proving a problem for my wife who uses the phone. When she's on a call the phone is intermittently sensing if she's holding it to her ear.
Hence being a capactive screen, when her cheek brushes the screen during a call the other end either hears DTMF or gets cut off by it touching the end call.
I called her yesterday and kept getting random DTMF digits sent to me, then I got sut off.
I was watching her use the phone and the screen was de-activiting (correctly going blank) for part of the call then coming back on, this would happen several times during one call.
Is this a hardware issue or software bug. Has anyone else suffered this problem?
Also happened to me a few times touching end call wih my cheek, really annoying.
Anyone else having the same problem with the proximity sensor intermittently not working during a call?
I had that problem on the old 1.43 ROM but it was fixed when I upgrade to 1.48.
I have this problem and I constantly have to call back and say sorry to my customers and blame it on the phone...
I have reported several errors to HTC and all i get back is "Take it to the retailer and get it changed, it must be a hw error", annoying as hell
1.48 not yet official in sweden.
TouchLockPro
You can try TouchLockPro, it has an InCallTweak, using the GSensor. Searching for accessing programmatically the Proximity Sensor though, for more options (e.g unlock by Proximity Sensor). It works on HTC Leo, people confirmed.
Thanks ZuinigeRijder.
I've tried the software and I think it might work.
I loaded the software and it worked without any further config I presume that is currect.
Phil
philtrick123 said:
Thanks ZuinigeRijder.
I've tried the software and I think it might work.
I loaded the software and it worked without any further config I presume that is currect.
Phil
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Indeed, TouchLockPro detects itself the available sensors and uses the available ones. Of course you can configure detailed things (via pressing the BattClock), but the defaults are already the sensible ones
Thanks again ZuinigeRijder.
Just been doing some more testing and occasionally the screen flashes on for a brief moment during a call. Could it be the proximity sensor trying to turn on the screen? Or is it the G sensor not being very accurate?
In the application is there a way for me to adjust the G-Sensor angles that activate the screen off? i.e. 45+ Degrees activate ??
Or are there any other adjustments I could make during testing??
I found one more problem... I checked it several times....
If u make a call using portrait orientation of phone app (Rotated using BSB Tweak). Proximity sensor doesnt work at all.... i made a while lyin on the bed and no matter wat i tried it wasnt turning off the screen....
Then i kept it in portrait position for a few seconds den proximity started working again...
Is there anyone who can confirm me with this problem.... or is this issue only with my HD2
Hi,
Had the Leo since launch and it's driving me crazy with it's bugs.
Does anyone know if the following bugs have been fixed in 1.61?
1- Proximity Sensor intermittently not working correctly- I was on a call today and I cut the caller off 3 times.
2- SMS getting stuck in the Outbox.
I've already upgraded once to 1.48 I don't want to upgrade again until I know it's fixed.
I should learn in the future not to buy Version 1 of a product. The leo (HTC HD2) feels more like beta (field trial) 0.8 software.
philtrick123 said:
Hi,
Had the Leo since launch and it's driving me crazy with it's bugs.
Does anyone know if the following bugs have been fixed in 1.61?
1- Proximity Sensor intermittently not working correctly- I was on a call today and I cut the caller off 3 times.
2- SMS getting stuck in the Outbox.
I've already upgraded once to 1.48 I don't want to upgrade again until I know it's fixed.
I should learn in the future not to buy Version 1 of a product. The leo (HTC HD2) feels more like beta (field trial) 0.8 software.
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Well, agree to some extent on the "field trial" feeling...
However, I never had the proximity sensor problem, and since I installed 1.61, the SMS issue did not come back (had it rarely before, though).
Personally, the much better radio which comes with this update is worth the flashing alone... but that´s my personal opinion...
Have you got a screen protector on the leo?
when I use mine, the proximity doesnt work fine and I neet to cut the plastic of the protector of that zone
The proximity sensor also doesn't work with hair. Do you have long hair that covers your ears?
I noticed this when my girlfriend used my phone, the screen just wouldn't go off.
I use 1.48 rom and very strangely i have proximty sensor problems when calling numbers that are not on my carrier network ... don.t whant to report it as a bug but ... strange. Even so, have you tried to disable phone canvas cover? Seems it doesn.t switch on so often when this is disabled (using BSB Tweaks)
well my experience with proximity sensor:
when i just make a call it works fine.
when i use the keypad after making a call (for entering extensions and stuff) the proximity sensor stops working. it happens every single time I use the keypad while in a call. I will soon report this bug to HTC.
I don't have any screen protectors on.
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here4info said:
well my experience with proximity sensor:
when i just make a call it works fine.
when i use the keypad after making a call (for entering extensions and stuff) the proximity sensor stops working. it happens every single time I use the keypad while in a call. I will soon report this bug to HTC.
I don't have any screen protectors on.
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just been testing that, I can't replicate it at all.
start a call, press keypad, enter some digits close keypad, or don't close keypad, proximity sensor works fine.
on 161
I have some strange bug with calling screen.
When I call to somebody and talk more then 5-10 min, then I can't press Disconnect red button.
But sometimes, if I call and don't hold phone near of head, for headset for example, I haven't any problem with screen, all buttons pressed normally.
Very strange behavior.
Henry_Lee said:
I have some strange bug with calling screen.
When I call to somebody and talk more then 5-10 min, then I can't press Disconnect red button.
But sometimes, if I call and don't hold phone near of head, for headset for example, I haven't any problem with screen, all buttons pressed normally.
Very strange behavior.
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me, too. Seems like the phone hangs for a short while after a call !!! :-(
philtrick123 said:
Hi,
1- Proximity Sensor intermittently not working correctly- I was on a call today and I cut the caller off 3 times.
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for me - proximity sensor not working correctly in 1.61 (like in 1.48 too)
here4info said:
well my experience with proximity sensor:
when i just make a call it works fine.
when i use the keypad after making a call (for entering extensions and stuff) the proximity sensor stops working. it happens every single time I use the keypad while in a call. I will soon report this bug to HTC.
I don't have any screen protectors on.
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Had exactly the same issue with 1.43, didn't notice it *yet* on 1.48. Screen wouldn't dim after entering dtmf.
Grtz
Lukas
Interestingly it's my wife who uses the phone and she has long hair- that fits in with the previous posting
Why does the proximity sensor not work with long hair!!! She still has the phone close to her ear. I can watch her during a call and the screen lights up and activates on and off. I'm not too sure if there are two bugs here- one is radio cutoff, and the other a proximity sensor issue.
I called her a few times over the last day- and cut offs are quite regular.
Previously I used to get various DTMF digits sent down the line as well from her cheek touching the screen, but not now.
I'll give this phone a few more weeks before it get sent back.
FYI- I do not use a screen protector.
With regards to the proximity sensor... I'm on the LEO with a WWE 1.48 rom (experienced the same thing with the original 1.43). Like you all say, it is still a bit flaky at best, though did improve with 1.48. However I find myself doing a little work around...
(to note: I do have the official screen protector attached on as well - it has 2 little holes for the sensors in the film)
• Make or receive a call
• Drop the “virtual” guard
• Enable loud speaker mode / Disable loud speaker mode
• Talk/Listen to your call
Hey presto... you should find the proximity sensor working again. (Got it down to a fine art... the other end doesn’t even realise)
Henry_Lee said:
I have some strange bug with calling screen.
When I call to somebody and talk more then 5-10 min, then I can't press Disconnect red button.
But sometimes, if I call and don't hold phone near of head, for headset for example, I haven't any problem with screen, all buttons pressed normally.
Very strange behavior.
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Me too ! Im on 1.43 WWE ROM
i upgraded 1.61 and noticed the proximity bug once yesterday
the only time it happend was when I was ON a call and had another one coming in (call waiting) ... so once i switched over to the other caller, my proximity sensor stopped working
No idea why...but i tried it again 10 minutes later and it worked.
So its intermittent...pretty annoying though
I hope HTC is aware of the problem
I think not... Its getting really annoying
sc00by said:
With regards to the proximity sensor... I'm on the LEO with a WWE 1.48 rom (experienced the same thing with the original 1.43). Like you all say, it is still a bit flaky at best, though did improve with 1.48. However I find myself doing a little work around...
(to note: I do have the official screen protector attached on as well - it has 2 little holes for the sensors in the film)
• Make or receive a call
• Drop the “virtual” guard
• Enable loud speaker mode / Disable loud speaker mode
• Talk/Listen to your call
Hey presto... you should find the proximity sensor working again. (Got it down to a fine art... the other end doesn’t even realise)
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Do you thing the original screen protector from HTC make all the problems with the proxi,ity sensor?
I have the same problem with this sensor, I am not sure which hole the is proximity semsor?
thake the screen protector out or cut it and the proximity sensor will work perfect
Hi guys,
During the call I’m setting off bunch of application by accident. The manual says it suppose to be a virtual protective shade over the buttons and only “keypad” and “End Call” should be accessible. But in fact anything I touch is working. What to use to disable all buttons during the call?
Thanks
P.S. installed apps:
Duttys task manager 2.1.1
Montecristoff HD2Tweaks
TC
Cookies home tab 1.7
chainfire 3d driver patch
supplier_new said:
Hi guys,
During the call I’m setting off bunch of application by accident. The manual says it suppose to be a virtual protective shade over the buttons and only “keypad” and “End Call” should be accessible. But in fact anything I touch is working. What to use to disable all buttons during the call?
Thanks
P.S. installed apps:
Duttys task manager 2.1.1
Montecristoff HD2Tweaks
TC
Cookies home tab 1.7
chainfire 3d driver patch
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maybe ur sensor is broke. sensor top left of phone??
beyondthought said:
maybe ur sensor is broke. sensor top left of phone??
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I see the small holes/sensors left to the LED. What do they do? How do they block the keys?
on other hand maybe i disabled something in HD2Tweaks and it can be restored back?
Thanks
the proximity sensor will know when the phone is to your face during a call and turn the screen off. make a call and put ur finger over the sensor see if the screen turns off
sensors
One is light sensor to brighthen or dim screen, the other is proximity sensor to turn off screen during call, so you don't touch any with cheek,or ear.
supplier_new said:
Hi guys,
During the call I’m setting off bunch of application by accident. The manual says it suppose to be a virtual protective shade over the buttons and only “keypad” and “End Call” should be accessible. But in fact anything I touch is working. What to use to disable all buttons during the call?
Thanks
P.S. installed apps:
Duttys task manager 2.1.1
Montecristoff HD2Tweaks
TC
Cookies home tab 1.7
chainfire 3d driver patch
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There's a sensor thats suppose to turn your phone screen off when you put it close to your face. Do you have anything blocking the sensor next to the ear speaker? or maybe a cheap screen protector going over the sensor. I've also heard long hair can mess up the sensor if you don't push it behind your ear before putting the phone up to the ear.(Don't understand how that would effect it, though) Or did you change any settings that effect the proximity sensor?
I've never heard of a "virtual protection shade"... where did you read about that?
zarathustrax said:
There's a sensor thats suppose to turn your phone screen off when you put it close to your face. Do you have anything blocking the sensor next to the ear speaker? or maybe a cheap screen protector going over the sensor. I've also heard long hair can mess up the sensor if you don't push it behind your ear before putting the phone up to the ear.(Don't understand how that would effect it, though) Or did you change any settings that effect the proximity sensor?
I've never heard of a "virtual protection shade"... where did you read about that?
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Guys,
i called my wife and asked her to test on her identical hd2. the same problem.
i did hard reset -- porblem gone. i will install cabs one-by-one and retest
zarathustrax said:
I've never heard of a "virtual protection shade"... where did you read about that?
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user manual page 58:
During a call
When a call is in progress, a shade covers the Phone dialer’s onscreen buttons to prevent accidental taps. Only the Keypad and End Call buttons are active.
To access the onscreen buttons, slide your finger down, starting from the top of the shade. Use these onscreen buttons to put a call on hold, dial another contact for a phone conference, enter notes about the conversation, and more.
During the call, you can also browse through
THANKS for the help!