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3D Holgram for Touch Diamond?

Heya all,
I have been looking at the iHologram app and it would be awesome to have one for the HTC...
http://adameatstilk.blogspot.com/2008/08/hologram-cat-on-iphone.html
Any Ideas?

hm...looks very nice and smooth, maybe just another fullscreen vid?

It is a fake - the designer only wanted to show a concept.

Heh, the designer did prove the idea that people think of Apple's devices as being allmighty and all powerful. Anyone wonder how the iPhone knows to whose direction this 'anamorphic perspective rendering' should be rendered? Or how it knows to render towards the videocamera instead of the cameramans eyes? How to do this with multiple people?
Somebody actually did this with the Wii, as you can use the remote control to 'localize' yourself.

It is not real!!! It is just an idea....
http://gizmodo.com/5041304/ihologram-3d-iphone-app-was-just-for-show-not-peek-into-alternate-world

to make this happen
you have to locate the sight of the user and only one user can experience the 3D effect. impossible to make it work on iphone or any ppc now (hardware limitation)
its funny but do not have that great value on the market

of course it´s a fake. how could the iphone detect moving itself around it´s own axis laying flat on the table? magical rotation sensor?

So I guess there could be a couple of problems:
- How do you tell the observer's perspective?
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )

Jamzb said:
So I guess there could be a couple of problems:
- How do you tell the observer's perspective?
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )
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Maybe eye tracking using front camera?
using the wii VR demo, I experienced that the effect is reached best when the screen follows the head/eye movement instead of the other way around.

Jamzb said:
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )
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It would need a gyroscope. But i never imagine a cellphone whit a 3axis acc so just wait six months or so

soundonly said:
to make this happen
you have to locate the sight of the user and only one user can experience the 3D effect. impossible to make it work on iphone or any ppc now (hardware limitation)
its funny but do not have that great value on the market
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It is not a fake. It is not magic. And no you don't need superduper hardware. It is actually working on iPhone, it assumes a fixed position of the viewer, that's why it works only for one viewer (at the correct angle). Read here about it: http://www.davidoreilly.com/blog/2008/08/ihologram-update/

Holographic effect
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE

faethon said:
It is not a fake. It is not magic. And no you don't need superduper hardware. It is actually working on iPhone, it assumes a fixed position of the viewer, that's why it works only for one viewer (at the correct angle). Read here about it: http://www.davidoreilly.com/blog/2008/08/ihologram-update/
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LOL - that link says this....
The iHologram app was not real. It was an illustration of an idea I had which I believe could work with the technology (combining anamorphosis and motion sensing). Unfortunately I’m just an ideas person, and I can show how things should look, but I’m no hardcore programmer.
I’d be happy to collaborate with a developer or studio who want’s to make it happen, I’m bursting with ideas for the interactive world, but right now all my attention is on filmmaking.
My aim with this was to tackle the problem of 3d viewing in an original way using current technology, not fool anyone… so for those who doubted but still supported it, respect. I hope it inspires some talented programmers out there.

gerDiamond said:
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
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Thanks for the post, this is the way i assumed something like this could work.
In the 3d world, besides being on an axis, there are virtually unlimited points to perceive an object. This guys application simply assumes the user is watching from an axis perpendicular to the screen, which is how we as people usually look at any display.
This way, no matter how you tilt the phone, it can react accordingly to you looking down on it, with gravity below it.

gerDiamond said:
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
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This is a nice ap!!!!

yeh that dice app looks nice

In the dice experiment, he shakes the phone, it isn't rotation. (I only say that for people who can think strange things xD)

I have seen the dice app on the iphone. It does look very very nice. I cant code but surely the Diamond can compete on ths level. ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421806

Sorry but thats not even in the same league..

gyroscope sensor

I'm searching a developer who can build an app to read the sensor data oit of the galaxy tab. Cause I wanne know of there is an gyroscope sensor on bord or not, samsung site is a joke with its tec specs. In my mind btw its even not clear what kind of display is build in, s-lcd or more likely a ips, but what kind of ips?
May someone can help me out.
ps:are there any games or apps actually using a gyrocope sensor in android?
Thanks

The display is a first gen ips, aka super tft.

ftgg99 said:
The display is a first gen ips, aka super tft.
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yeah like I thought, because of the battery lifetime

you can find detailed specs here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p1000_galaxy_tab-3370.php
also, the tab has a three-axis gyro sensor

ftgg99 said:
you can find detailed specs here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p1000_galaxy_tab-3370.php
also, the tab has a three-axis gyro sensor
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I know that there are some spec out, first it said there would be a AMOLED but now its an ips, so I dont trust extern spec cheets, I wanne se it work!

i am holding it right now and its ips... there are lots of very detailed spec sheets out already - google is your friend!

ftgg99 said:
i am holding it right now and its ips... there are lots of very detailed spec sheets out already - google is your friend!
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Im holding it too right now, its not about the display I know that this is an IPS but befor I have not seen the gyro in action I wont trust those specs, whats is their source? Just want to confirm it

Ive used gsmarena for years. They are always correct. Also backed by Sotovik, a analytics company in Russia that belongs to a electronics retail group. They are trusted resources.
Also, online flash games at m.kongregate.com require a hardware sensor to function, you can test it yourself if already own the tab!

ftgg99 said:
Ive used gsmarena for years. They are always correct. Also backed by Sotovik, a analytics company in Russia that belongs to a electronics retail group. They are trusted resources.
Also, online flash games at m.kongregate.com require a hardware sensor to function, you can test it yourself if already own the tab!
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I dont think you actually know the difference between accelerometer and gyroscope, like mentioned before: use google!
And pls back to topic, anyone out there who can read the gyroscope data out?

NightFire123 said:
I dont think you actually know the difference between accelerometer and gyroscope, like mentioned before: use google!
And pls back to topic, anyone out there who can read the gyroscope data out?
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indeed youre right i did not... no need to be snippy however

Sorry if it reached you so, but when someone want to correct me and dont know about what I mean I could became somekind "snippy".
To tell u what a gyro does: it recognises the turning of the phone like when u look around in a n egoshooter with your mouse. The accelerometer can only recognise the g-force of the earth so as you know you have to turn your tab in so position that apps reg. the movement at all. So the compass is what you think of it. You can imagine that the gyro is a kombined compass and a accelerometer, buts its another thing, with all the things compass acc and gyro kombinated you cann do everything like in a pc ego
best to see this iphone video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=GkO_pGSNH-E

According to http://www.isuppli.com the galaxy tab uses the STMicroelectronics L3G4200D, essentially the same chip as in the iphone 4.
The difference between accelerometer and gyroscope is that the former detects translation and the latter rotations. Both are implemented by MEMS integrated circuits.
You can also get information about rotations from the digital compass...

Volker1 said:
According to http://www.isuppli.com the galaxy tab uses the STMicroelectronics L3G4200D, essentially the same chip as in the iphone 4.
The difference between accelerometer and gyroscope is that the former detects translation and the latter rotations. Both are implemented by MEMS integrated circuits.
You can also get information about rotations from the digital compass...
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Thanks for that, this was the info I want to hear! Many thanks

NightFire123 said:
I'm searching a developer who can build an app to read the sensor data oit of the galaxy tab.
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There are several apps in the Android Market for this: Sensor Test (ctsr.android.SensorTest) works fine and shows gyro, too.
I'm more wondering, where the proximity sensor is - on my tab, it never changes value...

XNeo2001 said:
There are several apps in the Android Market for this: Sensor Test (ctsr.android.SensorTest) works fine and shows gyro, too.
I'm more wondering, where the proximity sensor is - on my tab, it never changes value...
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all I know taht there is no need of a proximity sensor, or do you want so hold it like a telephone to your ear that the screen has to hybernate? Dont think so ;-)

NightFire123 said:
I'm searching a developer who can build an app to read the sensor data oit of the galaxy tab. Cause I wanne know of there is an gyroscope sensor on bord or not, samsung site is a joke with its tec specs.
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I am the developer of "phone tester". This app allows you to test sensors, wifi, gps, battery, the multitouch screen and gives you information about the system. Currently doesn't support giroscope sensor, but yes in next update, probably in this weekend.

it has a gyro. I installed NOVA today, which recognized this ability and asked if I want to use it. I can confirm that I was able to operate the game on the horizontal axis.

Khisha said:
it has a gyro. I installed NOVA today, which recognized this ability and asked if I want to use it. I can confirm that I was able to operate the game on the horizontal axis.
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sorry for not posting it here, but already knowing that it got one :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820006

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9210740&postcount=1

Gyroscope

Hi,
So i have been doing some searching online and in the forums, and there seems to be mixed responses on if the vibrant has a gyroscope.
Some people say the compass + accelerometer act as a gyroscope. Some say it has a gyroscope like the iphone4 and some say it doesnt at all.
I heard android just included a gyroscope call in their API for Gingerbread.
Can someone clarify if the Vibrant really does have a gyroscope or not.
Thanks

I had a problem with it not to long ago and I was informed by T-Mobile that it was a gyroscope problem since it would only partially calibrate one axis. Nothing I tried was able to fix it since it was not a software problem it was a hardware problem. At the T-Mobile store I was able to have it replaced for free since I had the warranty ($5 p/month) and they concluded the gyroscope hardware related.
Hope this helps you

Tmobile usually have no clue the features on the phone. Just sayin
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A gyro involves spinning a mass around an axis. I'd be shocked if we had a gyroscope. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope )
We have accelerometers.
Robert

I heard that Vibrant also has a Gyroscope, but it's not used for now.
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rmeden said:
A gyro involves spinning a mass around an axis. I'd be shocked if we had a gyroscope. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope )
We have accelerometers.
Robert
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The classical type of gyroscope involves spinning a mass around an axis...Might want to read the rest of your wiki quote, as that's not the only type.
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...

masterotaku said:
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...
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I did read about MEMS, but since it keeps a "vibrating element", I didn't think Samsung would spend the battery to keep something vibrating. (granted, it probably is very small).

masterotaku said:
The classical type of gyroscope involves spinning a mass around an axis...Might want to read the rest of your wiki quote, as that's not the only type.
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...
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So I take it that means we do have a gyroscope comparable to the iphone. Can't wait for games coming out for gingerbread.
Thanks for the info.

multitouch screen

I just did a test on the Thrive screen. It can only sense 4 simultaneous touch while other tablets like the galaxy can do up to 10 touches. So I was wondering if the number of simultaneous touch on the thrive is hardware limited or it is possible to increase the number of touches in future kernal hacks?
Thx

i have up to five multitouch on my thrive, and confirmed into playing fruit ninja and see up to five swipes at a time. And to answer your question, a hack won't change the multitouch capabilities of the device.

thanks for the quick reply.
Now how come you can get 5 touches while I m only getting 4? Are there different hardware variations in production? I hv the 16Gb version. What numbers is everyone else getting?

1mk1 said:
thanks for the quick reply.
Now how come you can get 5 touches while I m only getting 4? Are there different hardware variations in production? I hv the 16Gb version. What numbers is everyone else getting?
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What method were you using for testing?

I used xPiano and also the Multitouch tester from the market. Both apps show only 4 simultaneous touch.

I haven't tried fruit ninja, but I see only four from three different multitouch applications I downloaded from the market.

teh roxxorz said:
i have up to five multitouch on my thrive, and confirmed into playing fruit ninja and see up to five swipes at a time. And to answer your question, a hack won't change the multitouch capabilities of the device.
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This actually isn't always true. Take the Droid Incredible for example. By default, its multitouch is limited to two points. But with a modified kernel you can get up to 10. It all depends on if it's a software or hardware limitation.
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Also receiving only 4 touches, tried this on Fruit Ninja, stock keyboard, Hacker's keyboard and Better Keyboard.

The octacore... which is used When?

Basically, I read in one of these threads (can't remember which now) that the higher speed cup is only used in gaming, and for everything else the 1.3 cup is used.
Now this sounded odd to me, as I know my original note 10.1 ramped up to full speed during various normal tasks (it was rooted so I could see these things lol).
Unfortunately I haven't rooted this one yet, I'm waiting for the knox issue to get resolved (or for a good rom to appear) so I can't look for myself, so I thought I'd ask you nice people...
When does the cpu speed ramp up to the full 1.9?
Is it only in games, or does it do it for browsing, gallery, photos, sketchbook pro, etc.
Not all apps require the extra power, but for some it's helpful. I was just curious I'm sure other are Too!
Thanks

the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too

nirurin said:
Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too
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it is mainly for console class games but maybe sometimes the phone will use it for other stuff too

I think the exynos change cpu when you need more power in interface or in game. i think the lags on exynos are when the cpu change.

interesting reading
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_true_octacore_for_its_biglittle_chip-news-6759.php

thomlh;4826Here's interesting reading
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Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.

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Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.
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ah memories in 2004 I was a boy dreaming of owning even a simple Nokia and now yeah its all different well glad to see someone remembering the good times ^_^

You don't need root to monitor cpu
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nirurin said:
Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!
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It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.

Houndx said:
It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.
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Well no, but if the update is released for the Exynos cpu, some clever sod is bound to figure out how to implement it onto the Note in a custom ROM kind of way.
That would definitely be worth rooting for haha.
And I thought I needed root to do anything with the CPU. I will have to look to see if I can find a live monitor app or something, thanks.
Edit:
I found an app which does that, in a nice little overlay. Seems that the cpu peaks up to 1900mhz fairly frequently, when loading up certain things etc. So its not just a gaming thing. Seems to work quite well.

Which app? Please share.
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sbattosai said:
Which app? Please share.
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Oh I'm at work, but off the top of my head I think its called "cool stats".
I have it showing a tiny little overlay showing cpu speed and memory usage
Edit: "cool tool".

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.

Link or proof?
As far as I understood it, there is a patch that might come out and open for full octa core, but nothing yet. And they have pretty much said that the note 3 will NOT be getting it
http://www.techenclave.com/news/no-true-octa-core-hmp-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-note-3/6573/
and here
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...t-core-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
We can still hope....

sbattosai said:
Which app? Please share.
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System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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ChrisNee1988 said:
System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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I used cool tools, its free and includes overlay

double07 said:
From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.
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No, it does not use all 8 cores simultaneously. The older versions of the Exynos big.LITTLE chips do not have the capability at all. The newer version, including the one in the 10.1 2014, has the hardware in place to do it, but it is not turned on in the kernel.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.
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