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Hi all,
For any Sydneysiders interested in release dates for the XDA II: Harvey Norman, David Jones and Harris Technology have all confirmed a shipment arriving on Wednesday December 10th, product instore Thursday, December 11th.
(Sorry if this information's already been posted!)
Hope this helps anyone who has so little else going on in their lives that they have to obsessively stalk small, touchscreen technologies (like me). :roll:
DMcG
Thats the same time frame as Ive beeen quoted in Melbourne.
Did they mention any prices, Ive been quoted 1599 with a 128 SD card and 1467 without.
Jon
Geez, I hope that that will be similar for Melbourne. I had a P800, and lost it in Bourke st. waiting for a tram. My insurance has been approved, so I am just waiting for Optus to get the XDAII so I can pay the difference. I have called them numerous times, and they don't have any idea when it will be out, they say maybe end of december, early Jan?!!? You can really tell they don't have a clue. They better hurry up and get it before I go to Queensland on the 23rd!! :roll: :roll:
916senna: Just for your info. , Calculator King in south Melbourne has had the imate-ppc since last Thursday. I called them up this morning as I saw it on their website.
Now the question is: how long will it take Optus to have them available?????????
Thanks GTR,
Organiser world has had the Imate for about the same time. But I think (Not sure) they are sim locked to vodaphone, whereas the O2 ones are for Optus and Telstra.
Telstra told me they will have them on the 12th and I dont see why Optus would be different, You just need to find someone in Optus who knows what there talking about.........good luck!
Cheers
Jon
PS Do you have a GTR?
Who did you speak to regarding the Telstra release? I called and the only release they are expecting is some time in January, according to their product testing update.
Also, no I dont have a GTR. I used to have a R33 gts-t, but I havent changed my nick in aages. Back then, I used to blow over GTR's, hehe.
Telstra shop in Queen St City.
Spoke to a girl named Mia.
But to be honest I'm not sure if shes got a clue. Tried to sell me a Bluespoon digital at what she called retail price. Except it was about $50 more than the published retail for the bluespoon. I specifically asked for a price on an XDA2 and she gave me the price for the XDA. (That when she checked and said the XDA2 would be in on the 12th.)
Cheers
Jon
I gave them a call, and they also said the 12th. The guy there reckons that that is when their stockist will have it, and it could be another month until they get it at their store. ?Q!!?!?!?
I called another Telstra store, and she is getting back to me (said she would call the stockist directly, then get back to me). I missed her reply, so now its a cat and mouse game of getting back to each other.....
Kinda moot, but here's an update anyway.
916senna - Harvey Norman has quoted $1557 at me, and that's with no bonus bits.
I've been on their back about the XDAII since last Wednesday. First the shipment was delayed... then it was delayed again... then they didn't know what was happening:
"Duh, it's not here. I dunno where it is."
(Yeah... that helps me).
So on Tuesday I emailed TechPacific about shipment arrival and delivery, and was told they started shipping to stores on Friday. Called back Harvey Norman (in a minor fit of rage) and spat this information at the attendant.
They: "Uuuh... it usually takes two or three days for stuff to get to our stores..."
I: *growl*
They: "...and everyone's been asking about them..."
I: *growl* "Then you should really know more about them, shouldn't you?" *growl* *teeth clench, one cracks*
They: "...hello? Are you there? I'm getting static... *pause* That's better. We can put your name down and reserve a unit for you, if you like."
I: "That-would-be-lovely-thank-you."
So now, my name is allegedly on a waiting list, to be called when the XDAII arrives.
It's now Thursday, mind you, and I've heard nothing. Soooooooo, I'm going to call David Jones and see if they've got the XDA II. If they do, I'm going to call back Harvey Norman and see what's going on. If they have them and didn't call me, then they've just lost themselves a customer. $1557 will go to someone else without hesitation, I've had it with incompetent retail staff. It's not that hard a job.
DMcG
I know now that its at Telstra stores (the one in Highpoing shopping centre anyway), they called me and said they now have it in stock for $1599!.
Just waiting for Optus stores to get it now, so that my insurance can organise for me to get one as a replacement for my P800 (paying the difference in market value of course)
*grumble*
Not more than an hour after writing my last post, Harvey Norman called me. "Your phone's here... come get it..."
*sigh* That huge spike in blood pressure for nothing.
Anyway, I'm now the ridiculously proud owner of an XDA II and a Logitech Mobile Bluetooth Headset. So far, so good...
No word on the XDA II backpack yet... they seemed quite offended when I asked after it. "What, isn't this enough?!?!"
Who is this tech pacific? Are they the Australian distributors or something?
If so, do they distribute for Optus? I have no idea, and you probably wont either. Im haaaaaaaaaaaanging for my XDAII from Optus.
TechPacific are the Australian distributors for a lot of techy-nerd products.
You can try contacting them, they were really quite civil with me - replied within the hour.
http://www.techpacholdings.com.sg/Contacts/contacts__tech_pacific_australia.html
Hope this helps you.
Would anyone like to take a guess as to what sort of pricing Optus will release the XDA II on contract? My contact expires in March 04 but they normally let me upgrade a month or so earlier...
No Idea. Id be gessing it will be similar to telstras pricing. In Melbourne, Telstra had it for $1,599, and in Queensland at Pacific Fair, they had it for $1,349!!!!! whats going on there? Anyways, I dont care about others, just Optus. I have been waiting for sooooooooo long for them to get it, so I can get it as my insurance replacement. They seem to be the only ones who dont have it yet. Apparently, Optus finished their network tests a few days before christmas (according to a guy named Owen as Pacific Tech). Optus stores, let alone insurance department however, dont even have a listing, or a price. They keep saying now early january, mid january.
This is making me insane
Notebook.com.au have the XDA2 for $1305 which seems to be the best price going around in Australia.
http://www.notebook.com.au/ProductDetails.aspx?item_id=3XDA0002
But I am still faithfully waiting for Optus (Damm you Optus!) to bring out the XDA2 on a plan. I am happy to stay on contract with Optus and hopefully they can beat that price with the contract.
Bugger Optus, I was waiting for too long. They had been saying for soooooo long they were getting it, and never do. Apparently, they are having problems testing on the network. (I was told by Pacific Tech, their distributor and tech staff at optus). I was waiting as I had put in a claim for my P800, and got market value for it for $1239. I thought I would wait for Optus to get it, pay the difference, sweet. Instead, I kicked up a fuss about how log I was waiting, and I got a cash settlement instead ) happy me!!!!
Telstra store in Port Melbourne did the O2 XDAII for me for $1230 cash, I was VERY happy. Im on Optus, no problems at all. I think what they are waiting for is to set up that Optus ZooTV to be compatible with the XDAII first, before they release it. (Told by Danielle in Insurance). This is because, I was told, the XDAII doesnt have some type of browser compatibility with Zoo TV. Once thats cleared up, they seem to think 2 weeks from last Friday, it should be available to stores to buy.
Without actually looking to closely at it that Zoo Tv looks pretty crappy. Well I plan to give it about a month (by then my contract should expire). There seems to be heaps of places that are now selling the XDA II and I-mate but I want the XDA II. The prices are continually dropping so it might even be a $100 cheaper in a month or so. Will wait for Optus to release it but if they don't I'll consider buying it outright somewhere else, then getting another phone on contract from Optus and selling the handset to try to make up the difference.
Andrew.
iMates
G'day All,
http://estore.pressd.com have the imates at $1299 and the iMate SmartPhones at $790 (in stock).
Cheers
Andy
Sorry to bang this thread again but does anyone know if Optus (Australia) is ever going to release the XDAII? I was at an Optus World Shop last week and the sales person had no idea.
Andrew.
Yesteday I saw that O2 were offering the XDA EXEC as one of the phone options on their website, today it is now not one of their options. ITS OFF THE LIST! I wonder why.
O2 XDA Exec
You can get an O2 Exec for £150 in the UK at £19/month or £100 + £23/Month. Not a bad deal.
@electronis, I think you're right. Just tried from www.my-xda.com and the link to buy from the online store did not work.
Edit: my local O2 shops (Hampshire/Surrey) in Farnborough and Guildford still have stock.
Edit 2: O2 are still selling the XDA on the business site, see here:http://shop.o2.co.uk/cgi-bin/o2uk-b...=business:O2:XDAExec:GROUP&ref=businessMod8L3
It was working fine yesterday - interesting.
Wonder whats going on.
Liverpool store I was in yesterday said they had loads in stock, too.
It still appear in the Business section
http://shop.o2.co.uk/business?ref=bizhome3-a
Hi
Just to let people know - I phoned O2 online this morning - they have sold out. Waiting for new stock. But they have no ETA for the new stock.
Phil
i was told 17th November for stock, but I told them to cancel the order cos I placed it yesterday and they even offered me next day delivery for £3.99 which I accepted and now I've just rung to check on delivery only to be told no stock until 17th.
I ordered my upgrade on Tuesday and it came on Thursday.
After the usual arguments over how much I was going to pay, depending on on your callcentre rep is, I got it for free.
I was told no stock and no ETA last weekend.
If I dont have one by the 17th I'll cancel with o2 and buy that IPAQ 2700 instead.
There's no way o2 is getting a penny off me until I have a working phone and sim and am completely satisfied with it. Which I suspect will be never given the fact they keep sending out knock offs and refurbs. *sigh
Guys
I spoke with the retention team yesterday and they told me that they had 3 days worth of stock available so I'm not sure what the heck is going on with the sales departments.
I'd push it with them and see what they say. Why not also see if the local store has one in stock and pick one up from there.
They have just added it as HTC Touch HD and not some O2 XDA:
http://www.o2online.de
I can not choose it without contract.
It is the best price in town (569€) .
As far as I know it should be the same piece as in the non carriers offers.
damn! I just wanted to buy it along with a contract-Verlängerung, but the online shop tells me it´s sold out!!
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contract-Verlängerung
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fun. But I suppose you have to go to an O2 shop to buy it . I don't think it is more expensive there.
I think it was kind of a temporary thing. I just ordered my Touch HD along the contract-Verängerung Can´t wait until it finally arrives !!
ps:
I´m very happy that this time it is not O2 branded and it even seems it gets the original black Manila Interface
A few weeks ago the HD was advertized by O2 as "exclusive in Germany only via O2 for the first 4 weeks".
Now they are the last in business. What a shame!
I ordered my HD ~ two weeks ago in an O2-Shop with a contract-extension (??).
Yesterday they said they are "expecting the devices each day". Like two weeks ago.
Anyway. I just want my HD!!!! NOW!!!!!!!
I just wanted to order mine via the online shop but I also only get the sold out message. Did anyone ask O2 when they will be available again in the online shop? Is it possible to order it in a "real" O2 shop with extension of contract although I have an online contract?
EDIT: I just reloaded the page in the online shop and it seems that they're available again. Thanks to anyone might have replied ;-)
I extended my former online-contract in the shop.
So YES it it possible.
But you would not get any online-conditions like 15% off bill or 150 free-sms.
But as a student you get 250 free-sms likle online. But no choice for 20%.
wow, I didn´t expect mine to come before next week as I was reading it´ll be shipped from Nov 24th, but I ordered mine online Wednesday, and it has already been shipped, according to DHL tracking it´ll arrive here today !!! .D
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wow, I didn´t expect mine to come before next week as I was reading it´ll be shipped from Nov 24th, but I ordered mine online Wednesday, and it has already been shipped, according to DHL tracking it´ll arrive here today !!! .D
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Now, I am definitely nervous!
I can't wait any longer!!! WAAAHHHH!!!
I want my HD!!!
But good to hear.
sim lock or no sim lock? that is the question
Does anyone knows whether the prepaid O2 touch hd has got a sim lock? If not, I would advise you to buy it at O2 for 570€ and to put a blau.de sim in it.
It´s cheaper than O2: 9 cent per sms and call + 1Gbyte data flat (10€)
tiz
vincent1 said:
A few weeks ago the HD was advertized by O2 as "exclusive in Germany only via O2 for the first 4 weeks". Now they are the last in business
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Wrong! No other operator has it, just some free traders. exactly as announced by HTC&o2 in their common press statement
Hi, just wanted to ask if it's possible to buy it from O2 with an OS in English, because it's for a person who doesn't speak any German. Or is there another way around that problem?
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Wrong! No other operator has it, just some free traders. exactly as announced by HTC&o2 in their common press statement
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No... You can buy it at mediamarkt with a contract of T-mobile for 300€
MediaMarkt without contract 719,- Euro
Cyberport 609,- minus 25,- discout-coupon (via google-search) makes 584,- Euro
Thats OK for a free HD
Does anyone already got an HD in an O2-Shop?
I am still waiting for mine.
still waiting too!
ordered my HD on monday and they told me its in stock, maybe 3-5 days for delivery. one hour later i was on o2online.de again and it was no longer in stock so i called again and they told me i have to wait 2 weeks!!!!
@CWempe
how much did u paid for yours?
Oh great. I ordered on Monday, too and was told it would arrive at the end of this week...
Hopefully it won't take 2 weeks!
K_Hismoom said:
Oh great. I ordered on Monday, too and was told it would arrive at the end of this week...
Hopefully it won't take 2 weeks!
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i called o2(GER) one hour ago again and they told me they will get new HD delivery between 21.Nov and 5.Dec!
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still waiting too!
ordered my HD on monday and they told me its in stock, maybe 3-5 days for delivery. one hour later i was on o2online again and it was no longer in stock so i called again and they told me i have to wait 2 weeks!!!!
@CWempe
how much did u paid for yours?
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I don't know yet.
I renewd ("verlängert") my contract at 6th Nov. (20 days ago!!!!!)
I told them I want an Touch HD, but they didn't know the price at that moment.
But the would reserve an device for me and contact me.
And if the price would be too much I could say I want another phone.
Actually I knew the price would be ~300 € with my conctract.
Besides there is no "too much" for this great phone, I think.
Have been severely mucked about by vodafone and no one else has the phone.
Voda told me my order last Friday would be here monday.
On monday they told me wednesday
on Tuesday morning they said Friday
on Tuesday afternoon they said "oh sorry mid december"
AAARRGGGH!
not a happy camper. mobilesdirect are out of stock and no one else in the UK seems to have the phone.
Any suggestions?
GG
yes got to the HTC uk site and the "Buy" have a look at shops people selling them..
there's several there that have them in stock/
Play.com have them in stock on free delivery at £499 (or did at time of writing)
I got mine from cleverkit.com next day delivery for £5
If you'd prefer a bricks-and-mortar store and you're in London then you could try Inkino.
I'm guessing both these options are sim free .... ?
GG
I got mine from Clever Kit.com. SIM free and I ordered mine on day of release after 3pm and it was delivered next day! Amazing service!! http://www.cleverkit.com/products/htc-hd2-sim-free-unlocked.html
Shasarak said:
If you'd prefer a bricks-and-mortar store and you're in London then you could try Inkino.
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Got mine from Inkino. Just looked on their website, says 7 in stock.
Yes, SIM free.
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Have been severely mucked about by vodafone and no one else has the phone.
Voda told me my order last Friday would be here monday.
On monday they told me wednesday
on Tuesday morning they said Friday
on Tuesday afternoon they said "oh sorry mid december"
AAARRGGGH!
not a happy camper. mobilesdirect are out of stock and no one else in the UK seems to have the phone.
Any suggestions?
GG
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Exactly the same situation here. Placed order on Sunday, they failed to call me back on the Monday when 1000 units came into them, so I never got one of those, so i was advised to place my order online as more expected Friday and I did, now got an email saying early December. Called Voda who were very apologetic and if I can wait till the 12th then they will compensate me as I should have had my phone by now.
fards said:
yes got to the HTC uk site and the "Buy" have a look at shops people selling them..
there's several there that have them in stock/
Play.com have them in stock on free delivery at £499 (or did at time of writing)
I got mine from cleverkit.com next day delivery for £5
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Check out Insight, they got them for £486
http://uk.insight.com/apps/productp...ct_id=HTCTCHHD2&nbs_search=C=102&S=1016&M=HTC
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Called Voda who were very apologetic and if I can wait till the 12th then they will compensate me as I should have had my phone by now.
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Interesting, they never mentioned compensation to me! Maybe I was too polite.
GG
This phone has been a lot more popular than Vodafone thought it would be.
Apparently people stayed away from the HTC Magic when it came out because they hadn't heard of HTC.
Don't think we can blame them for everything. I hope you get one soon mate! Vodafone are usually pretty good with fixing problems. Especially when they create them!
Same problem with voda here, on top of that I enquired as what would happen with my number transfer (my pac expires 12 December) in case they can't deliver a phone by then, they told me they had no record of my pac/number to be transfered... ooops must have fallen into a black hole then lol.
Not bothered about waiting but very annoyed about not being informed about delays before ordering and the fact that they did the credit check straight away...
Sent a lovely email to the UK CEO (yes, I can be polite and explain things clearly when I want to lol). I've just got a reply from him (about 1 hour after I sent it) apologising for letting me down and saying he'll get someone from his office to call me to "see how we straighten this out"
Fast reply! That's damn good.
Hope you get them soon guys. I hope Vodafone fix it for you.
I admit I was impressed. I thought it'd take a few days to get a reply and that I'd just get a standard apology penned by the PR people. No idea how long till I get the call though but will keep you informed.
Some Vodaphone stores had stock in, looked at one in Taunton and Weston super Mare had stock. Would only do 24 month contract though so decided to wait.
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Same problem with voda here, on top of that I enquired as what would happen with my number transfer (my pac expires 12 December) in case they can't deliver a phone by then, they told me they had no record of my pac/number to be transfered... ooops must have fallen into a black hole then lol.
Not bothered about waiting but very annoyed about not being informed about delays before ordering and the fact that they did the credit check straight away...
Sent a lovely email to the UK CEO (yes, I can be polite and explain things clearly when I want to lol). I've just got a reply from him (about 1 hour after I sent it) apologising for letting me down and saying he'll get someone from his office to call me to "see how we straighten this out"
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If Voda call you and manage to straighten it out by getting you a device before the end of the month let me know and I will also mail the CEO as they have 2 pages of notes for me.
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If Voda call you and manage to straighten it out by getting you a device before the end of the month let me know and I will also mail the CEO as they have 2 pages of notes for me.
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Will do though I can't really see how they'd get me a phone if they can't get stock from HTC before December. Still, I'm hoping that at the very least my account will get a note along the lines of "do not mess up, the stupid cow will complain to the ceo" .
HD 2
I Phoned tmobile yesterday and was told the hd2 is in stock but only on a 18 month contract. Vodafone tell me they have sold all there stock over the weekend and will not be getting more until the 27th of nov. Vodafone are not listing 12 month contracts but if you phone them and ask they will offer one. I Just cant wait until the 27th.
mobilefun.co.uk
very good site, got mine next day !
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Vodafone tell me they have sold all there stock over the weekend and will not be getting more until the 27th of nov.
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Me and many others with outstanding orders got this email from Vodafone:
"We have received unprecedented demand for the HTC HD2, and due to shortages from the manufacturer – we are experiencing slight delays in receiving your handset. We are doing everything we can to obtain further stock and will be the first to receive the next deliveries. Currently we expect these to arrive early in December."
That's a funny definition of slight delays Not sure where the 27th November date they've given you is coming from.
Vodafone are not listing 12 month contracts but if you phone them and ask they will offer one
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I couldn't get them to offer anything shorter than 18 months, so if 12 months is what you're after you may just want to order before they change their mind again
12 month contracts are very rare in premium mobiles these days. Given the lowest possible monthly amount is around £35 and premium phones are around £500 or so, the companies only get £420 out of you.
However, on an 18 month contract at minimum of £35 they get around £630 from you. At least this pays for phone.
As for stock, I would have hoped they could have had more in before the start of December. Must be because the phone has probably been more popular than HTC imagined it would be.
I have just spoken with T-mobile loyalty team, I was chasing up where my Leo is. The lady stated there had been some issues with the previous batch of handsets and that further testing was being done before releasing any more devices.
1 Am I being told the truth?
2 How long does this testing take?
3 If problems are found how quickly will T-mobile be able to flash a fixed ROM to all their stock?
4 Will I get my Leo before Christmas?
I would really like to believe that T-mobile are being honest and that very soon I will have my Leo hopefully with all the issues identified on this forum fully resolved.
Am I being naive?
Ordered mine online on Sunday the 29th Nov and recieved it on Thursday 3rd Dec.
I do have a mate that works in T-Mobile and said that as soon as the stock is coming in they are going out just as fast and having worked for a mobile phone company in the past the staff do get told a load of rubbish at times.
I phoned up t-mobile UK today to order one, to be told they were out of stock. A new batch is expected Friday.
I've spoken to o2 at least 8 times today and in one of the calls I was told that part of their problem was having to send all the stock they had,along with returned faulty devices, back to HTC for "repair"...what's that funny smell? is it lamb,fish,bear...no its bull!
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I phoned up t-mobile UK today to order one, to be told they were out of stock. A new batch is expected Friday.
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Ordered mine online on Sunday the 29th Nov and recieved it on Thursday 3rd Dec.....
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Mine was ordered on 30/11/09 and was told to expect a text with a delivery date within the week.
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I've spoken to o2 at least 8 times today and in one of the calls I was told that part of their problem was having to send all the stock they had,along with returned faulty devices, back to HTC for "repair"...what's that funny smell? is it lamb,fish,bear...no its bull!
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This would cost HTC a fortune. I wonder if the repairs are to flash a new ROM ?1.48+ or actual hardware repairs eg. new camera module. Are existing users going to have their handsets recalled? If a handset is "repaired" will it be classed as new or refurbed?
Nah, I smell something too.
It is probably just another example of getting a different response from which ever droid/lovely customers service rep. you speak to. Best just to keep ringing up until you get the answers you want and then believe that person.
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Mine was ordered on 30/11/09 and was told to expect a text with a delivery date within the week.
This would cost HTC a fortune. I wonder if the repairs are to flash a new ROM ?1.48+ or actual hardware repairs eg. new camera module. Are existing users going to have their handsets recalled? If a handset is "repaired" will it be classed as new or refurbed?
Nah, I smell something too.
It is probably just another example of getting a different response from which ever droid/lovely customers service rep. you speak to. Best just to keep ringing up until you get the answers you want and then believe that person.
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i got one online from tmobile bout a week ago and mines running 1.43 and i`v had no major issues with it at all. i`v had to soft reset once due to phone hanging, but believe me its had a good seeing to, i havent put the thing down!!. as for the camera, mines not too bad. got the slight pinkiness problem but nothing that cant be sorted with a few tweaks in the camera settings i`v read about. i think htc mis-judged the demand for them plus some dodgey batches thrown in the mix. good luck on getting one anyway jus keep pestering them!
Just got off the phone with Hayley at T-mobile.
They are expecting 2000 HD2s today and tomorrow. I have been told there are less than 2000 people on their waiting list for HD2 so fingers crossed, touch wood and rub the lucky rabbits foot and I will have my phone within the next 2 days.
Ive been waiting for 2 weeks for my upgrade phone. Every time same story, more expected Friday. And when "I" asked about rumours that there had been some probs with the phones, the lady went off to check with her manager and came back and said, nope, they had only heard wonderful comments about the phone.
Still i'd rather wait for htc to fix any issues if they are doing that right now.
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Just got off the phone with Hayley at T-mobile.
They are expecting 2000 HD2s today and tomorrow. I have been told there are less than 2000 people on their waiting list for HD2 so fingers crossed, touch wood and rub the lucky rabbits foot and I will have my phone within the next 2 days.
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That's interesting. I just got off the phone with Francis at Tmobile. She couldn't tell me anything, except that they'd had a consignment today. No numbers on stock or on how many are waiting for it. Nor how far down the list I was. She did agree that for some reason Tmobile had underestimated the demand for this phone.
I think it might have something to do with the iphone judging by what went on at Voda.
And I've been on the waiting list for 3 weeks and it should have been 4 but they cocked it up. I better get it before Christmas!
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That's interesting. I just got off the phone with Francis at Tmobile. She couldn't tell me anything, except that they'd had a consignment today......
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I am well and truly p*ssed off. (I hope I wont be edited by a Mod like I have been on the T-mob support forums)
Today I got to speak to Dennis who laughed at the mention of 2000 handsets arriving today. I was lied to yesterday.
No idea when more stock arriving.
No idea when I might receive mine.
No idea about customer service.
No customers if they keep this up.
200 handsets arrived today and after waiting for a month with Vodafone's mis-information, I switched to T-Mobile and bagged one of those 200. It seems the only way to get an HD2 is to show no loyalty and swiwtch providers
I guess I got lucky as I got through to a really helpful saleswoman.
Just buy an unlocked one and get it right away. I did and I'm in the US. Of course I had to have it and paid $875. But it was worth every penny. I use A&tt now but thinking of going to T mobile. BUt since its unlocked i can use it forever anywhere.