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Has anyone been working on a way to uncap our FPS?

I am highly interested in this phone as a gaming device and I know it would be awesome to see this phone truly benchmarked video wise. The droidx beats it because of uncapped FPS even though it has a worse GPU.

don't worry too much about it. 56 is a really good number. once more graphics intensive games come out, our phones will shine at 56 FPS while others will struggle.

I thought it was already determined that the FPS wasn't capped. I know on my phone when running quadrant it does go above 56 but seems to average around 56. Besides I don't see any games out right now that would benefit from high frame rates, except maybe ps1.

speoples20 said:
I thought it was already determined that the FPS wasn't capped. I know on my phone when running quadrant it does go above 56 but seems to average around 56. Besides I don't see any games out right now that would benefit from high frame rates, except maybe ps1.
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It is not the point of the games but if our fps is uncapped right now, the droidx gets more fps than our phone with a older model GPU. 60 FPS is all you need for games but Im saying, why would I want a SGS for video games with apparently a DroidX gpu is better according to benchmarking.

I think the lower scores vs. the Droid 2 is more an indication of how lousy Quandrant is as a benchmark than any indication of the actual potential of the SGS.

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The droid X does NOT have a higher fps. I've tested one, an incredible, rooted/stock droid, nexus,etc....
None of these phones came close to 56.7 fps like the Vibrant.
Not sure where you got that, but it's incorrect.

Mark271 said:
It is not the point of the games but if our fps is uncapped right now, the droidx gets more fps than our phone with a older model GPU. 60 FPS is all you need for games but Im saying, why would I want a SGS for video games with apparently a DroidX gpu is better according to benchmarking.
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Find anywhere where the Droid x gpu is faster. Necore is like 42 fps vs sgs 55+, nenomark 1 is 44 on sgs and what? 22 on dx?
Your info is wrong, now the dx may jump that high during testing at one point, but average the sgs holds steady framerates much better.

There is a cap though. No matter what I can never go above 56 fps on any app.
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smashpunks said:
Find anywhere where the Droid x gpu is faster. Necore is like 42 fps vs sgs 55+, nenomark 1 is 44 on sgs and what? 22 on dx?
Your info is wrong, now the dx may jump that high during testing at one point, but average the sgs holds steady framerates much better.
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I had seen a video of reviews and was surprised when they said the Droid X got like 59 FPS on quadrant while the SGS got 56

Mark271 said:
I had seen a video of reviews and was surprised when they said the Droid X got like 59 FPS on quadrant while the SGS got 56
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But that's untrue. Sgs wins in every gpu benchmark.

smashpunks said:
But that's untrue. Sgs wins in every gpu benchmark.
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Hmm, I wish I could find the video, I am too lazy to look through the 1000 of comparison videos.
But granted, maybe I was mistaken.

^ trust me, I've tested both... whatever you say you saw, again, it is incorrect.

Mark271 said:
Hmm, I wish I could find the video, I am too lazy to look through the 1000 of comparison videos.
But granted, maybe I was mistaken.
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I've seen probably every dx and sgs gpu benchmark video out. I can 100 % guarantee that the sgs not only beats the dx, but whips it by a good margin. They may have said at point during the test the dx may go over 60 at some points, but its all over the place going from 40 to 60 back down and up and etc. Where as the sgs just chills nicely around 56 although I've seen it jump to 58 its just all around more smooth and steady framerate vs the dx.....
Here's a video where they run the sgs against the dx, n1 and evo. Clearly see in neocore that the sgs eats the others alive and also in real world testing on them. Sgs clearly even beats the dx.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=FRK2stnV3Wg

Haha okay. My bad. I would still like an uncapped to get a proper benchmark.
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Mark271 said:
Haha okay. My bad. I would still like an uncapped to get a proper benchmark.
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Why are you so into mines is bigger than yours?

I have an idea but I don't think it is worth posting...

Gpu quality

I might be getting a desire hd tomorrow but I wanna know how the desire HD handles video processing with its new Gpu. So how does it play video and psx4droid, because my desire has a bit of trouble with high def movies and playing FF 9.
Thanks in advance
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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DevilzDontCry said:
Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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using ninamark 1 .
the GPU for galaxy S will give you 49 fps.
the GPU for Desire HD i have been told its about 35
for Neocore its 55 for Galaxy S vs 58 for HD Desire. but keep in mind that its not fair way to measure using neocore due to the fact its locked @ 55 to 60 fps for Galaxy S
with ninamark 1 . which use more heavey rendering. its showing the gpu true color.
however, you also need to notice that both tests dont mean anything. as i was explaining before in other thread, the dev standard for games is nexus 1. so really. most of the games will run fine on nexus 1. means galaxy s or hd desire wont get any benifits for being superior phones.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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not to be an ass. but its both CPU and GPU for PSX4dorid

PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?

Ethania said:
PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?
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Don't get the wrong idea. The DHD is excellent for games that use the GPU, but psx4droid uses CPU mainly. In all honesty, the PSX4droid app is not coded very well. Performance isn't great not because of the DHD's hardware, but because of dodgy programming. The developer doesn't seem to care too much for optimizing the app either.

yupp... the guy above me is right. check videos of fpsece, psx emulator for windows mobile. this thing flies, it can even run tekken 3 full speed. ... but guys developing it are real smarties, that's why it runs so well on snapdragon first gen.

Optimized Adreno 205 driver maybe in Sony's Xperia Play

Was watching PLAY benchmarks, sony did do some GFX tweaking tossing out the idea to lets get cracking and rip their driver for use in our Desire HD

Misleading title. Assumes you already ripped Adreno205 driver.
Would be nice to correct it.

binjinx said:
Was watching PLAY benchmarks, sony did do some GFX tweaking tossing out the idea to lets get cracking and rip their driver for use in our Desire HD
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where are those benchmarks? our DHD gets 58fps on neocore, xperia play beats it?

It might just be 2.3 running but it scores on avg 59 I was guessing sony might have took the time to build a tweaked driver but maybe not. Guess we'll have to see when someone gets their hands on it for real

It's normal that the maximum fps you can get on the DHD is about 60. Thats because the frame rate is locked to the refresh rate of the display. Basically the same as v-sync on a pc. And so the framerate of the play should also be around 60fps at neocore.
Would be nice to see a benchmark like nenamark running on the play. Should be more accurate because the framerate isn't at it's maximum (at least on the DHD)
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Does this say enough?

ViDtje said:
Does this say enough?
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damn youuuuu sonyyy

Leedroid took a look into the Xperia Play drivers and says they're the same as our DHD's.

Then how is it possible it gets better scores?
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ViDtje said:
Then how is it possible it gets better scores?
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Well benchmarks arent entirely bound on a single component. It may be helped by the CPU and RAM speeds.
A benchmark may focus on a particular component but is never entirely bound to it.

ViDtje said:
Then how is it possible it gets better scores?
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The Desire HD also scores 47 on Nemamark.

Mine scores 14 with cyanogen mod

nothing94 said:
Mine scores 14 with cyanogen mod
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Did you choose the Performance governor?

SupremeBeaver said:
Did you choose the Performance governor?
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Well,Sony might have rather done something to scale better than HTC.Any HTC phone's graphics benchmarks are crap with the default(ondemand) governor.Change to performance and you are bound to get at least a 30% increase.
Other than that,don't rely on Neocore,it's crap now.Every phone that has an Adreno 205 or better can max out the FPS as it relies on OpenGL ES 1.1 .It was very good for pitting older GPUs one against the other,until the days of the Adreno 200.

tolis626 said:
Well,Sony might have rather done something to scale better than HTC.Any HTC phone's graphics benchmarks are crap with the default(ondemand) governor.Change to performance and you are bound to get at least a 30% increase.
Other than that,don't rely on Neocore,it's crap now.Every phone that has an Adreno 205 or better can max out the FPS as it relies on OpenGL ES 1.1 .It was very good for pitting older GPUs one against the other,until the days of the Adreno 200.
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Yep Neocore is a crap benchmark. But Nenamark isn't (which is what we're discussing)

raze599 said:
Well benchmarks arent entirely bound on a single component. It may be helped by the CPU and RAM speeds.
A benchmark may focus on a particular component but is never entirely bound to it.
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Th Xperia Play and the Desire HD have the same processor and GPU, the DHD has even more RAM, doesn't seem logical to me

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SupremeBeaver said:
Yep Neocore is a crap benchmark. But Nenamark isn't (which is what we're discussing)
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Shut up Beaver,I'm backing you up!
That's what I'm sayin' pal.Nenamark is the way to go.And now that dual-cores are out,even Nenamark1 will be crap and we'll begin to use Nenamark2.Not to mention And3DBenchXL,GLBenchmark and the likes.

Benchmarks

Tegra got smoked
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-benchmarks-blow-us-away-20120503/

Hm.. Tegra 3 seems to win the GPU bench?
Quadrant sucks though. Will be waiting for more benchs.

Here are some other benchmarks (next to quandrant also SunSpider and browsermark)

Quadrant scores -
sgs3
cpu - 12781
memory - 4652
io - 7606
2d - 1000
3d - 2171
total - 5642
S4
cpu - 8505
memory - 7547
io - 6394
2d - 990
3d - 2204
total - 5128
tegra3
cpu - 12493
memory - 3472
io - 4769
2d - 962
3d - 2346
total - 4804
they seem pretty even in cpu/gpu capability. the s4 gets smoked in cpu performance according to those quadrant scores. interesting.. i thought it was faster.

Wow, the S3 doesn't seem to smoke the competition.

im interested about the antutu...can someone bring some more benchmarks?

Even if Tegra got smoked games will look better, so i'm really thinking how the S3 will be better in general use except for benchmarks...
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GPU performance gap between Tegra3 and Exynos4 Quad is huge
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Faster than iPhone4S' powervr sgx543mp2

LOL quadrant sucks so hard. the new mali 400 is killing tegra 3. according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview

The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html

bocautrang.pt said:
The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html
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um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites

Antutu Benchmark available here:

ph00ny said:
um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites
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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.

Here are some results from the Swedish androidsite "Swedroid". It's in swedish (doh!) but you should be able to look thru the scores anyway
http://www.swedroid.se/hands-on-med-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-forhandsitt/#disqus_thread
In my humble opinion. To say that the exynos "kills" the Tegra 3 is just...plain...wrong.
They seem to be very capable CPUs in both of these beasts!

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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.
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Did you see the gpu scores. Kills tegra 3.
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Imo they are very close to eachother, i would say exynos wins by a little margin could be just the software dragging it down, would love to see a pure ICS build doing the test.

Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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jits1988 said:
Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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good benchmark do shows the raw power of the mobile, its never meant to test the user experience.

jits1988 said:
Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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All the hands-on video clip made it seemed as if s3 is doing great in general ui transitions. It was noticeably quicker when used side by side.

Always astounds me how people are judging by benchmarks. I mean, its a phone, not a server station.
I wont be running virtual machines for rendering movies on it. I wont be playing Crysis 3 on it.
I`ll phone, message, watch clips, pictures, surf and use navigation. Even the single core phones can do that perfectly.

GLBenchmark Question

Can someone explain why we only get 33.7fps on 1080p?
As in is this the frame rate we can play 1080p videos back at or what?

Benchmark=Sh*t
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gravitysandwich said:
Benchmark=Sh*t
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39765347&postcount=25

At first it was about who has the longest, now it is about who has the fastest

gravitysandwich said:
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GLBenchmark (referring to Egypt here, not the synthetic tests) is pretty much real world experience.
No obscure CPU, IO or ram performance tests, just a 3D environment like in most games. More fps here are likely to result in better real world gaming performance, whereas a higher quadrant score means noting at all.
As for OP's question: no, 3d performance has nothing to do with the video decoding abilities.
gee2012 said:
At first it was about who has the longest, now it is about who has the fastest
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We switched to "fastest" because the iPhone 5 has taken over as the longest.