HTC Gratia: Froyo Sense new life for hero? - Hero, G2 Touch General

Okay, so I know there are loads of threads that are trying to get sense from the wildfire onto the hero.
but how about this:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/36282/htc-gratia-surprise-froyo-addition
Its a froyo running htc sense phone. with HVGA resolution - should this hopefully solve half the problems with images being the wrong size?
Its out next month.
EDIT: I have seen it said to be as HVGA and VGA now :s
Spec Comparions vs Hero.

Hopefully it will be possible to port. It seems too me as it would work (the same resolution and a cpu with ARMv6)

Seems like a super easy port! Probably even easier than the Legend

The little europe version of the HTC Aria!
Hope it`s possible to port!

Well Nathan and Shen (Team Villain) tweeted today to say we'd have a working Beta of Sense 2.2 on the Hero within a month. Not sure from where, but it's looking good.

Nice to hear!
But what about My Touch 3G Slide and Android 2.2?
Is it available and comes with Froyo 2.2 + Sense?
Maybe it would easier to port!

Nathan and Shen do indeed have plans for around a month... As per usual no discussion of progress or ETAs will come from them, as it's ready when it's ready

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question about Android 2.2 (FROYO)

Will we Legend get Android 2.2 (Froyo) update?
Here are the platform highlights. very good improvements
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Latest news from HTC (thanks to Iryia ) :
Iryia said:
Hi guys,
I just received a reply from HTC..
"Good Morning Thank you for contacting HTC At the moment we dont have official date of the relase for the new update but it is suitable for your device and soon or later it will be relased for Legend Regards Piotr HTC "
At least some good news..
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Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
c_man said:
Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
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HTC LEGEND is not getting 2.2 Update in 2010.
Source -->>URL product-reviews.net/2010/05/21/android-2-2-froyo-no-update-to-htc-hero-legend-and-droid-eris-phones
Following on from our previous article, which informed you about HTC’s plans to update their smartphones to the latest version of Android OS (2.2 Froyo), it seems that HTC deliberately left a few handset names off their initial upgrade list.
HTC issued a fresh statement, in which they detailed a few handsets that will be receiving the update to Android 2.2 first. These included the HTC Incredible, MyTouch 3G, HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G smartphone.
Does this mean that handsets such as the HTC Hero, Legend and Droid Eris will not be getting the update to 2.2 Froyo? We can understand the Hero and Droid Eris not being included on the list, since they were released a while ago now, but what about the HTC Legend?
The Legend was available after the HTC Desire, so it seems slightly odd that the statement from HTC didn’t include the handset on the list. Maybe it was just a bad choice of wording. Hopefully HTC will clear this up for us soon – we’ll update you when we can.
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HTC Legend probably get Android 2.2 (FROYO) update because is launched this year,see here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
I really hope it does get updated, the whole reason I upgraded to legend and not desire was A. the industrial design of the phone, and B. sick of waiting around for 2.1 GSM hero update so gave the hero to GF.
Even after this statement im seeing a pattern here with HTC not clearly being able to state weather or not brand new phones will receive an update, or hell even when (2nd half of 2010 can mean December). If it does turn out our Legends dont get 2.2 I'm gonna stick with vanilla android experience on an unlocked N1, or hopefully N2.
I dont think that HTC will update Legend to 2.2.
Considering its RAM and processor Legend is behind from N1 and Desire or incredible.
Even i have Legend and its utterly dissapointing from the side of HTC to ignore such a high profile handset from new update.I ll never buy any handset from HTC now onwards.
F*** u HTC......
Froyo for Legend
I bought the legend some time ago. It would be a major dissappointment if HTC doesn`t create an update for it...let`s be realistic the amount of work they have to do once they change stuff to work on the Desire should be fairly minimal. Also I don`t think that the HW of Legend is not good enough to run Froyo (from what I`ve heart all devices should see a performance boost and the ROM itself should be smaller). Anyway we`ll see how it goes ). Worst case is that everybody will root their legends and flash it over and over again with unstable roms until it becomes an aluminium brick going back to HTC for replacement )
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
noobdeagle said:
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
Ace42 said:
However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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why should the sense version matter ? either way they have to update sense on all the models to support the new 2.2 features for example why not just resize the desire one which is essentially the same as the legend minus the live wallpaper support
either way im sure 2.2 will popup in other non official roms
Ace42 said:
However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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people forget about the specs these are not comparable to win xp & then vista & then win 7, these are not resource hungry, I reckon its handset selling gimmicks of HTC, i have fallen victim to it; i have sold my hero & bought LEGEND; now i suppose history is going to repeat itself on legend. this time wait is going to be for FROYO.
New article found now:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33238/htc-phones-android-os-updates
i think we have update
Pff I bought the Legend in stead of the desire because I thought it would have better support on forums and from HTC (since it was the succesor to Hero) bad mistake, really hope we get the update, but I'm not really counting on it.
There is no reason why Legend shouldn't get the update...the specs are surelly enought. No need to panic guys....i mean even if there will be no official rom with 2.2 rom (which i trully doubt) there will be plenty of rooted roms available.
Let's just wait and see.
just wait n watch what HTC does. If they release 2.2 for Legend then is well gud otherwise HTC will loose its credibility..........
Update to froyo for htc legend is clearly 100% sure come on guys! It's sure because it's a phone tha has 2-3 months of life! It's sure htc will update it. The problem is when...even if I don't understand where is the difficulty to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, it seems very simple, in fact google will update n1 in the next 2 weeks...I don't think the senseUI is so hard to update, considering that this upgrade is not revolutionary! The very cool features of froyo are simple to add to a device working on 2.1. So HTC move your ass and make this upgrade available for max september. If we will not have the upgrade for september will be really bad for a company like HTC that wants to fight against apple. So please make your engineers work hard to give us this upgrade quickly, considering it's also quite simple to do it.
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
nickporwal said:
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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I had a diamond 2 before the legend, and ii OS was windows mobile 6.1. HTC made available the 6.5 upgrade for free, so I can't imagine this time will do different. So it's only matter of time, and we all hope max 2-3 months from now it's enough.
Froyo (pre-rooted) out for the Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631
This german article says:
Legend will get the 2.2 update.
"in the second half 2010"

Take a look, Hopefully we get Froyo soon!

I just read this and so I'm hoping we get Froyo soon too. Hopefully we will.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/22/htc...-desire-and-legend-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
Vandam500 said:
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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I don't know but I hope we get it.maybe that's why google is updating all their apps. Google maps is also getting a update.
Sent from my Sprint Evo
We should definitely be getting it on the EVO... the only question is how soon???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
itmustbejj said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correction....the Desire and Legend do have the SenseUI. The Nexus is stock, Vanilla Android.
itmustbejj said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
The key is the Desire and Legend aren't locked to carriers, and don't have to go through the US carrier dance whenever they want to release an update.
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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That would be a very beautiful thing if you are right. They would be killing multiple birds with one stone then. Almost seems to logical for htc and sprint though so i doubt this will be the case
Things needed for a fully working Froyo Build on the EVO
1 2.6.32 kernel source with drivers for the EVO. (Not Available)
2 Evo Vendor Files needed for Froyo source (Not Available)
3 Froyo Source
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
asrebel said:
HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
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If the LCD is running off of the MDDI interface, there is no way to fix it. MDDI 1.1 has a 30hz limitation. End of story.
Doesn't it stand to reason that HTC must at least wait for google to finish Froyo before HTC can release it? Perhaps HTC is able to begin designing their Sense UI while awaiting a final build of Froyo, but I doubt they'd release 2.2 for their devices based upon a beta-build of Froyo.
I certainly hope that we see an official HTC Froyo release asap, though once it's available I will wait to see what the XDA community is able to do to preserve root, and eagerly await some optimized ROMs based on an official release of Froyo.
In the meantime, I love my Evo and am enjoying it thoroughly. I just wish we'd get some 4G down here in the big-easy.
Battery issues aside, I picked up one of the chinese battery/charger bundles on ebay for $11 shipped. I don't mind carrying 2 spare (albeit, probably lower mAH) batteries for extended weekend excursions.
Vandam500 said:
Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
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G1/Dream
MyTouch 3G/Sapphire/Magic/Ion/etc...
There are more than just the N1.

HTC Desire to get Android 2.3. How about Legend?

Found this in Phandroid.... http://phandroid.com/2011/02/17/coming-this-spring-android-2-3-for-the-htc-desire/
No announcement for Legend though.
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
dont ...
don't hold your breath for the improvements it's not really worth it especially for htc
download the 2.3 keyboard and you got 1/3 of the update
as 2.3 is mainly NFC support(dosnt apply) new keyboard(i person like htc's better cuz of the content text prediction) and improved copy and past
getan said:
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
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Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
Not gonna happen.
nxdu said:
Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
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I don't understand HTC... First what does that mean to use the same name of their concurrents for their new phones ??? Desire "S" ? wildfire "S" ?
serioulsy, are they thinking that people will buy their phone cause they thing of the SGS or the NS ?
Second, a new desire, a new wildfire, and no new Legend ? WTF ? It's the best design they got among their phones, and they still do some crappy plastic phone (ok it's a bit strong, not crappy).
A new Legend, more slim, maybe a bit bigger screen, new proc but still in one piece of aluminium and here we go, they would have sell that more than they will sell the wildfire "S" !
Anyway, the gingerbread roms will be available soon for Legend. There is CM7 RC, and when the wildfire S come out, some SENSE ROM will for sure be released...
Thanks to the the great developers we have the chance to have in the community !! Thx you all.
i think that Legend update will be announced... for me it about 85%
maybe after this spring
You remember how long it took HTC to announce an update to FroYo (It was about half a year after Google announced 2.2)
So if HTC will update the Legend to 2.3 it will probably be summer before they release it.
heard that a lot of devs don't think 2.3 is worth the R&D, so are waiting for 2.4.
The desire out sold the legend 10 fold on release this forum is bearly alive compared to the desire's. The wildfire sold like hot cakes because of the price so unless they priced the legend at £250-£275 it would fail just like this 1 did.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see a legend s but look at it from a marketing point of view an you will see why it makes no sense at all.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
I think that 2.3.2 is a big possibility for Legend, why you ask?
Well it is simple. Wildfire S is almost a clone of legend (600mhz, 3.2" and 480x320 screen) so the software will probably be easy to port over to Legend.
now the problem is operators. Do they rather want us to buy a new handset or upgrade.
yup... Agreed, the Legend forum is barely alive. There is only 2 almost perfected rom that is available. Unlike the desire forum, there's lots of goodies there =(
IMHO, update the htc legend to 2.3 (2.4 too) will not be.
Sorry for my english, please.
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
Why make these claims? They could very well turn round and give us a special release of 2.3 with the new Sense for the special 'few' who got the Legend, ya just never know!
My view is simple: Wait and see, and not make claims about us not getting 2.3. How many of you would still use 2.3 and HTC Sense? Most of us here are running custom ROM's anyway which don't use Sense....
Just saying...
FeaRThiS said:
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Not for Voda Legends
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and have rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
I just want the new notification drop down down menu and the re arrangeable home screens from the new sense ..
segphault said:
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and haveve rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
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I'm running CM7 full 3 (oh, full 4's out) with the radio upgrade from the dev forums, and it's pure awsome. gingerbread googness. battery life and speed are off the charts.
blayo's rom is very good, but i gotta say CM7's... gingerbread.
you'll loose flash lite, but the novelty wore off quickly for me.
lets be honest, it's pants.
new HTC Legend user
Hi, I have a new HTC Legend and i have read your posts, so i know that i can´t upgrade to 2.3. But if i want install some small aplications i need do something like hack software like in a NOKIA devices??
I would like some help.
Thanks

new and very nice GUI for the sense - DHD soon ?

htc show new gui for sense 2.3.3, great features! (see YT link).
im wonder, do we get it on the next ota ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8azvr03z4
Thats very nice!
I'm assuming this will come with the DHD 2.3 update
Yummy!
Look forward to using that in the future.
Nice phone too.
cant wait
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
It lags on a 1,2Ghz DualCore... I hope this is NOT the final version...
But I really like the lockscreen!
AWBob said:
What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
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im SURE that when the roms hit for the evo 3g, rom developers for the DHD will be coaxing/ manipulating some features from there
All websites are stating that the Evo 3D gets Sense 2.1. Unless HTC are making to versions of 2.1 we'll get it to.
The current TestROMs of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 doesn't have those nice features, but they are TestROMs, so maybe HTC will include them on release.

New Sense UI: HTC Sense Zero !!!!

Hi all,
Leaked a photo of a new HTC lower end device named: HTC Pico
Topic Here
What is interesting in the specs of this new device is the new Sense UI named: HTC Sense Zero with Gingerbread. which may be a streamlined version of the Sense UI designed for lower-end devices.
This gave me hope that we may have HTC Sense Zero with Gingerbread 2.3.3 for our poor HTC wildfire.
Do you think this could happen: Wildfire with 2.3.3 + Sense Zero ??
any information, could be interesting!
It has an HVGA display similar to the Wildfire S.Still...fingers crossed.If they ported sense 2.1 everything is possible
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
well, hvga, forget it, most wildfire devs will probably soon start upgrading their phones so, there is little to no chance for this to get on wildfire, shame, but truth. + theres a sh*t load of resizing, so its hard + boring. lol
smokzye said:
well, hvga, forget it, most wildfire devs will probably soon start upgrading their phones so, there is little to no chance for this to get on wildfire, shame, but truth. + theres a sh*t load of resizing, so its hard + boring. lol
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Do you mean wildfire going to be HVGA resolution??
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Do you mean wildfire going to be HVGA resolution??
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He means the HTC Pico is going to be HVGA which is bigger than our Wildfire's QVGA resolution.So porting Sense Zero to QVGA is going to be as hard as porting sense 2.1 and just as smokzye said, most devs are upgrading their phones so the interest in our phone will decrease.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Do you mean wildfire going to be HVGA resolution??
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he mean the wildfire's developers will soon get rid of the wildfires and buy another phone
I would rather wait for the device to be released (Or atleast the ROM of the device to be leaked) than jump to conclusions at this very early stage. The hardware seems to be same compared to the Wildfire S, and, it would seem unlikely HTC would release a new version of Sense for it, when Sense 2.1 works fine on the Wildfire S.
I'd love to use the Sense zero on my MT3GS

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