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HTC Magic official ROM update with Sense Released... Anything new?

Anyone have a friend or family member with a Magic?
I'd be curious to see if there's any new features that could potentially be ported to our Hero.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/htc-magics-sense-update-ready-for-download

Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.

Kcarpenter said:
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?

Kcarpenter said:
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build? That's basically your stock ROM minus some of the crap apps crammed on there, which is already available.
illogic6 said:
Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?
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HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.

john.c said:
Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build?
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To have sense on a 1.6 version of Android, I like Sense...alot.
john.c said:
HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.
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You may not have enough posts to link. -Your still a junior member, but I am not sure at what level it lets you link.

I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.

Nanan00 said:
I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.
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It is 1.6.
My co-worker has one and likes to remind of the fact that it came pre-installed on his MyTouch.
EDIT: Correction, he got it OTA. I'm running AOSP1.6 now anyway so... screw him!

so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?

magicalan said:
so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?
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It's for the magic not the hero. Not the hero.

just cheked haha i dint read

Froyo w/ Sense

We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?

rockypr said:
We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
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possibly? we only have a small handful of devs, so im not sure if anyone will do it? personally i don't like sense, i just want a stable froyo rom.

Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets

DirtyShroomz said:
Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
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Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.

rockypr said:
Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
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Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.

I loved Sense and would not flash an AOSP Rom, but once they released the first build of CM6 back in June I flashed it and kept it on my phone for 3 weeks. I installed launcher pro and beautiful widgets along with some other apps that I thought were decent like extended control widget. I got sense deprived and flashed a sense rom back on, but found myself reinstalling launcher pro because I like dock a lot more than Sense. And people can say that they can make a ROM with Sense just as fast as froyo are lying. I tried everything I could to get it as fast as froyo but was unable too. I have DC running right now, because I am working on porting something over from the EVO. Once everything is working on CM6 I will flash again.
The only thing that may be good is to get the HTC framework working with froyo and then you can still use the HTC apps, but other than that you can find alternative widgets that are close to or better than the HTC widgets

BrandoKC said:
Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
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IMHO, the only one Not replaceable is the VVM. (and no, GoogVoice is not a great alternative/just as good, frankly. the number forwarding shell game, redundant emails, txtx, etc, annoying. and simply not as responsive or "easy to use") I hate to say it, but it was this feature that sold me on this phone. of course since I have found other reasons to love it.
everything else can be replaced easy. (in fact, msg me w/ your email, I can send a pack...)
personally not using Froyo just yet, looking forward to a Sense port as well... but I can wait.

Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?

rockypr said:
Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
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golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
darchstar said:
u guys r such n00bz . we can't port an htc evo rom cuz its optimized to run on snapdragon armv7 arch. it will never boot with those libs. our hopes for a 2.2 sense rom would be a froyo legend rom, or a froyo espresso rom, as those both have libs optimized for armv61/armv5te
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and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.

kingdazy said:
golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
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Ok Thanks!

No porting the desire is not worth while. The legend will be the one I and several other dev's are waiting for this will get ported to the hero.
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[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

DesireHD 2.3 leak!!!

Can we do something with this?
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/1429008812011329111555836/

Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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mrbracht said:
Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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yeah and if not we have that sense 3.0 leak to look forward to lol

definatly just spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to download the RUU from that chinese upload site... no dice... any direct link to DL you can PM me im interested i wanna see if i can get this running

still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.

r2DoesInc said:
still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.
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this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android

Zarboz said:
this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android
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nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.

r2DoesInc said:
nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.
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Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out

r2DoesInc said:
i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out
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nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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my bad
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i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
obviously not from this dump as it is 2.3

Zarboz said:
i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
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it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.

r2DoesInc said:
it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.
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just tried to do a quick n dirty hack n slash port... bootloop... man this new android versions is something im gunna need to read about

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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miketoasty said:
Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.

can anyone tell me how to download this friggin dump..... i dont understand chinese... ive tried everything on that darn site...

r2DoesInc said:
right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.
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Well that's why we have you
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I will look at porting this also. I wonder if I can hack something together like I did with miui.

Htc evo 3d/ droid razr m 😃😆

Is A ROM Themed After The Evo 3D ? I Love HTC Sense 3.6 Look & Feel Of My HTC EVO 3D But I Like My RAZR M. Is There A ROM Or Something That Is Themed After HTC Sense 3.6 ? ??

Sense on a non-HTC device, MotoBlur on a non-Motorola device, TouchWiz on a non-Samsung device... no.
It's like putting Mac OS X on a PC, possible, but VERY difficult to the point where you shouldn't expect it.

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Sense on a non-HTC device, MotoBlur on a non-Motorola device, TouchWiz on a non-Samsung device... no.
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Thanks, But Can Or When The XT907 Get Android 4.3 ?

KiiDPoLo said:
Thanks, But Can Or When The XT907 Get Android 4.3 ?
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Really? Have some frickin' patience man. A lot of us are getting sick of tired of the "when will we see 4.3" question. We're not even up to 4.2 yet. You really think 4.3 is going to come to us? I'm sure we'll get it, but it will be custom.

RikRong said:
Really? Have some frickin' patience man. A lot of us are getting sick of tired of the "when will we see 4.3" question. We're not even up to 4.2 yet. You really think 4.3 is going to come to us? I'm sure we'll get it, but it will be custom.
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I'm On Elemental X 4.2.2. Okay I'll Try To Wait, But The First Guy Totally Misunderstood My First Question. I Wanna Know are There Any Roms That Look Like HTC Sense 3.6 Like Themed After It ? ???

Still no... The closest you can get is a CyanogenMod theme, but it's nothing like the real thing, mostly just app icon changes.

KiiDPoLo said:
I'm On Elemental X 4.2.2. Okay I'll Try To Wait, But The First Guy Totally Misunderstood My First Question. I Wanna Know are There Any Roms That Look Like HTC Sense 3.6 Like Themed After It ? ???
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The old Energy ROM had a sense theme, but a 4.2.2 based ROM and any sense theme is the closest your going to get. As for 4.3, don't ask for it. When it's ready, it will come.
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