Anyone have a friend or family member with a Magic?
I'd be curious to see if there's any new features that could potentially be ported to our Hero.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/htc-magics-sense-update-ready-for-download
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?
Kcarpenter said:
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build? That's basically your stock ROM minus some of the crap apps crammed on there, which is already available.
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Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?
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HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.
john.c said:
Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build?
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To have sense on a 1.6 version of Android, I like Sense...alot.
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HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.
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You may not have enough posts to link. -Your still a junior member, but I am not sure at what level it lets you link.
I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.
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I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.
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It is 1.6.
My co-worker has one and likes to remind of the fact that it came pre-installed on his MyTouch.
EDIT: Correction, he got it OTA. I'm running AOSP1.6 now anyway so... screw him!
so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?
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so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?
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It's for the magic not the hero. Not the hero.
just cheked haha i dint read
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I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
Yeah. There's AOSP 1.6, and DarchDroid is based off of AOSP 2.1. Do a search next time....
an all asop rom is not fully possible yet, theres a few out there but the camera doesnt work and a few other things but thats because they cant fix that until the official 2.1 comes out then we will have our fully aosp, theres darch vanilla, and darch droid, but a few things are missing as i stated above, if you are like me and you want a fully functionable aosp rom just wait until this update comes out then my friend we score, i hate sense, it blows...............ive been waiting for this a long time....dont even bother with the old aosp roms i mean their good but not 100%
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I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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i was about a **** hair from choosing a moment, almost wish i would have gotten one kinda, but then again idk, i hope a dev made use out of that decent processor
MatrixROM is all ASOP
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Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
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Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
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And might I add it's all HTCs fault because they won't release the .29 kernel source and their massive amount of modification to it disallows the ability to just port over a .29 kernel as it is... What Android was all about in the first place.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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Haha, I have one of those too...but let me tell you, if you flash 2.1 on it, and even THINK about thinking about looking at it to go online or play a game....or make a call, your battery drains.
HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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No prob.
Hi All,
I'm running Senseless / Cyanogen V1 and I really want some of my stock HTC Apps back. I'm talking Browser, Camera, People, etc.
Can anyone help? I know it's not as simple as dropping a APK and installing.
Thanks.
ok first
why not post this in the acuall forum for this rom?
seconds if you read the whole first post, theres a download apps.zip u flash after the install of it. to get them back.
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Hi All,
I'm running Senseless / Cyanogen V1 and I really want some of my stock HTC Apps back. I'm talking Browser, Camera, People, etc.
Can anyone help? I know it's not as simple as dropping a APK and installing.
Thanks.
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umm then u should be running evil eris not senseless or cyanogen
TopazAaron said:
ok first
why not post this in the acuall forum for this rom?
seconds if you read the whole first post, theres a download apps.zip u flash after the install of it. to get them back.
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no, those are for the google apps
its not possible to get sense apps working on an AOSP rom from what i understand.
I feeln renarded. sorry guys
TopazAaron said:
I feeln renarded. sorry guys
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Don't worry it happens to the best of us, just keep ur chin up!
gritts said:
Hi All,
I'm running Senseless / Cyanogen V1 and I really want some of my stock HTC Apps back. I'm talking Browser, Camera, People, etc.
Can anyone help? I know it's not as simple as dropping a APK and installing.
Thanks.
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You are referring to the Sense UI. You must choose a rom that keeps the Sense UI that the Eris comes with.
The Sense-able or Evil Eris roms are ideal, but the Senseless and Cyanogen roms do not include it.
This is the fundamental debate on roms - Sense or No-Sense...
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umm then u should be running evil eris not senseless or cyanogen
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Evil Eris is ugly, with all the blue
And can someone please move this to the Apps forum? I thought I was originally posting in there, but alas, I was not.
g00gl3 said:
You are referring to the Sense UI. You must choose a rom that keeps the Sense UI that the Eris comes with.
The Sense-able or Evil Eris roms are ideal, but the Senseless and Cyanogen roms do not include it.
This is the fundamental debate on roms - Sense or No-Sense...
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Can I add some sense back in? I know I'm sounding like a complete noob right now, but alas, I am.
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Evil Eris is ugly, with all the blue
And can someone please move this to the Apps forum? I thought I was originally posting in there, but alas, I was not.
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Whoa partner, slow your roll with the hash comments. No need for negativity toward the hard work done by some great devs!
Plus, you are missing the point. The many helpful devs posting above ^ have stated that you cannot install the Sense components onto a non Sense based rom. It just won't happen...
Okay, I apologize if I have offended anyone with my "blue" comment, but personally I enjoy the natural green glow of the android.
Okay, thanks for the clarification. I just wish there was somehow a ROM with everything I want.
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Can I add some sense back in? I know I'm sounding like a complete noob right now, but alas, I am.
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there are alot of good sense based roms out there...you just need to use one of those ....and if you are not fond of the colors ...try using a theme to change it up....
but definitely try not to bash someones hard work over something like choice of color.....
other sense based roms (that i can think of right now)
senseable
evil eris
aloysius (very themeable)
kaoslegendary
ivans official
ZenExp (very nice build)
and more ...
I have used a few of these for long periods of time
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there are alot of good sense based roms out there...you just need to use one of those ....and if you are not fond of the colors ...try using a theme to change it up....
but definitely try not to bash someones hard work over something like choice of color.....
other sense based roms (that i can think of right now)
senseable
evil eris
aloysius (very themeable)
kaoslegendary
ivans official
ZenExp (very nice build)
and more ...
I have used a few of these for long periods of time
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mine didnt make ur list
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mine didnt make ur list
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sorry boss ...... i was trying to remember them all .... and I kept thinking I am missing one.......
so let it be said .....
Fresh ----- killer sense based rom and looks cool too even has a dancing Android ....
I wouldn't mind having the widgets from sense personally. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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sorry boss ...... i was trying to remember them all .... and I kept thinking I am missing one.......
so let it be said .....
Fresh ----- killer sense based rom and looks cool too even has a dancing Android ....
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He has a dancing droid, too?!
-mak
FunkyFender said:
I wouldn't mind having the widgets from sense personally. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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No sense widgets exactly, but you can grab Beautiful Widgets from the Market which are pretty as well.
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No sense widgets exactly, but you can grab Beautiful Widgets from the Market which are pretty as well.
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I think Beautiful Widgets was actuall y the first thing I paid for on android
I used them before back when I first got my phone. They really seemed to lag me up. I might give them a shot again when I install White Widow/Senseless.
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I used them before back when I first got my phone. They really seemed to lag me up. I might give them a shot again when I install White Widow/Senseless.
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thats what ive been using
We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
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We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
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possibly? we only have a small handful of devs, so im not sure if anyone will do it? personally i don't like sense, i just want a stable froyo rom.
Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
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Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
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Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
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Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
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Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
I loved Sense and would not flash an AOSP Rom, but once they released the first build of CM6 back in June I flashed it and kept it on my phone for 3 weeks. I installed launcher pro and beautiful widgets along with some other apps that I thought were decent like extended control widget. I got sense deprived and flashed a sense rom back on, but found myself reinstalling launcher pro because I like dock a lot more than Sense. And people can say that they can make a ROM with Sense just as fast as froyo are lying. I tried everything I could to get it as fast as froyo but was unable too. I have DC running right now, because I am working on porting something over from the EVO. Once everything is working on CM6 I will flash again.
The only thing that may be good is to get the HTC framework working with froyo and then you can still use the HTC apps, but other than that you can find alternative widgets that are close to or better than the HTC widgets
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Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
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IMHO, the only one Not replaceable is the VVM. (and no, GoogVoice is not a great alternative/just as good, frankly. the number forwarding shell game, redundant emails, txtx, etc, annoying. and simply not as responsive or "easy to use") I hate to say it, but it was this feature that sold me on this phone. of course since I have found other reasons to love it.
everything else can be replaced easy. (in fact, msg me w/ your email, I can send a pack...)
personally not using Froyo just yet, looking forward to a Sense port as well... but I can wait.
Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
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Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
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golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
darchstar said:
u guys r such n00bz . we can't port an htc evo rom cuz its optimized to run on snapdragon armv7 arch. it will never boot with those libs. our hopes for a 2.2 sense rom would be a froyo legend rom, or a froyo espresso rom, as those both have libs optimized for armv61/armv5te
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and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
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golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
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Ok Thanks!
No porting the desire is not worth while. The legend will be the one I and several other dev's are waiting for this will get ported to the hero.
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So with T-Mobile releasing Froyo for Magic, is there an official Froyo update for ADP2 (Google Ion) from Google or HTC? Should one be expected?
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If you mean semi-officialy, there will soon. As you've deduced, the Mt3G is a rebranded magic, just like your ION. We're just waiting for someone to dump the ROM, so it can be packaged up ready to flash. You'll need root for that of course.
The Froyo source code has been out for a few months, so you could have installed Froyo ages ago. I'm currently using a community build on my magic, but I'm going to flash Tmo's build just to see if they've changed anything.
Personally I don't see Google or HTC releasing Froyo officially fo the ION. If they were going to they would have done ages ago. So if you want 2.2 you're going to have to flash a custom ROM.
chrisgto4 said:
I think u can find atleast one link to it in the source code!!!!!! Give that phone to someone who can use it
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You dun make no sense.
Oh, I've been running CM6 on it for a while, I was wondering about update coming from either Google and/or HTC (just as I have posted).
PS. My Ion came with Eng SPL and rooted -- there was no need to do anything to flash any of the community ROMs.
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Oh, I've been running CM6 on it for a while, I was wondering about update coming from either Google and/or HTC (just as I have posted).
PS. My Ion came with Eng SPL and rooted -- there was no need to do anything to flash any of the community ROMs.
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I should have read between the lines
It's just a matter of time before tmo's build gets dumped. Either way, it will be a lot better than *shudder* CM6.
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Tmobiles version is going to run decent, but only because its missing a lot of features that you would find on newer phones running froyo. The hardware is just not there to run full froyo.
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So do you happen to have a list of what exactly is going to be missing?
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chrisgto4 said:
Better how???? Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cyanogen did exactly what everyone wanted him to do. Bring froyo to the g1/mytouch. He busted his ass to bring u almost all of the features that froyo brought to the n1. Tmobiles version is going to run decent, but only because its missing a lot of features that you would find on newer phones running froyo. The hardware is just not there to run full froyo.
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CM6 runs like crap, lets face it, standard AOSP runs way faster.
AdrianK said:
CM6 runs like crap, lets face it, standard AOSP runs way faster.
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CM6 doesn't " run like crap ", there is some things that we would like for it to have but 2.2 to g1's and Mytouch's was completely out of reach and Cyanogen gave it to us and remember that it's only 6.0, there will be more releases. Partition your SD Card the right way and maybe it wouldn't run like crap for you... maybe. I'm not sayin' I'm just sayin'.
And lets not forget Cyan gave us 2.1 and T-mobile NEVER acknowledged it.
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CM6 doesn't " run like crap ", there is some things that we would like for it to have but 2.2 to g1's and Mytouch's was completely out of reach and Cyanogen gave it to us and remember that it's only 6.0, there will be more releases. Partition your SD Card the right way and maybe it wouldn't run like crap for you... maybe. I'm not sayin' I'm just sayin'.
And lets not forget Cyan gave us 2.1 and T-mobile NEVER acknowledged it.
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Each to their own, I guess. In my experience it's slow and straight-up AOSP is way faster. Partition how? I don't need ext, swap is a con, really.
Ok, its one thing to stand up for CM6 another to blindly nut hug.
CM6 sucked....
Not only did i ditch CM6 for Biffmod, i ditched all root for 1.6 and im loving it.
CM6 could never keep a single thing opened.
Yes, i had my card paritioned right, yes i had custom MTD partitions for massive internal memory, yes i used firerats swap patch for CM6 and swap option in Biffmod, NO nothing would stay open.
I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
I agree. Plenty of good variety in the ROMs we have.
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
tpbklake said:
Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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There's nothing wrong with that actually. Sometimes it's a good thing because there are more people developing towards something greater. We have 1 or 2 guys doing all this work. There are some pretty badass ROMs for the more popular phones out there. If we had more people developing and cooking, we'd no doubt have something better than what we have even now.
Screw those giant phones.
But a little more ROMS would be cool, we just need more people with the Aria.
It's not a bad phone...hah.
What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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Not too sure, as I have only had the Aria and used the two ROMS.
it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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+1 on themes
I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Hopefully it's before Christmas.
AT&T is just soooo slow
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Agreed. Waiting for the AT&T ROM to be released and then having someone remove the bloatware is pointless. What you will end up with is available now as Liberated FR07...
Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Um trackball wake works. So does wifi tethering and overclocking. We also have flash working.
Check this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9615379&postcount=128
Check the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&page=13
From what I understand it's using the froyo kernel from the legend now.
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That's right folks- get your supercharged Froyo sense goodness now with the newer kernel source released by HTC for the HTC legend. Everything works as far as I know, except for the built in wifi hotspot app for which we have replaced with the working Wireless Tether app thanks to the work of shakerhero. Final thanks go to attn1 and jznomoney for their hard work on the CM kernel, ladios for bundling up the kernel, trackpad wake fix, and wireless tether in a single, proper package.
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Just gotta flash it yourself. Been running it for a couple of days. Prior to that was using the CM6.1 kernel for OC and trackball wake.
kura808 looks like i've been missing some good reading
thanks for the links too.