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Hi, I'm considering switching to Sprint this month. I currently have Verizon and an old HTC Touch Vogue (6900).
I'm trying to decide which phone I should get between the EVO and Epic on Sprint. The EVO sounds like a great phone but the 30FPS cap (and tearing when it's disabled) are really disappointing as is the screen color spectrum. However, the Galaxy/Epic is made by Samsung which has a pretty bad track record of hardware and support. To top it off, there's lots of posts in the EVO forums (in the Epic threads), about how there isn't any source for the drivers for the Samsung devices and customizations aren't really possible.
I'm not sure what's true and what's not, so I'd like to get opinions on the two phones...
Thanks for any information... hopefully factual.
For one, here is the source code for the Galaxy S : http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
Both are great phones, but I think you'll like the Epic better. I would suggest you take a look at both when they are released and make a decision yourself.
Epic has the better GPU, but the Evo is a thinner non-slider.
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For one, here is the source code for the Galaxy S : http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
Both are great phones, but I think you'll like the Epic better. I would suggest you take a look at both when they are released and make a decision yourself.
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I have seen in the other thread though that the source is either already compiled or still encrypted though?
I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
Screen and cpu
It is easy to get caught up in the "Latest and Greatest", but .... screen is smaller and the cpu is slower.
One thing I have always noticed is too many ppl are into perfecting the phone rather than enjoying it once it is perfected. I like the galaxy and until they come up with a real big improvement rather than incremental....... I wouldn't change
my two cents worth........
If you want a hardware keyboard, get the G2. Both are great phones. I like the thin and lightness of the vibrant plus the gorgeous screen. Plus, i like the extra storage on the vibrant.
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Is the CPU really slower? It may run at 800MHz but it is the new generation of the SnapDragon. MHz/GHz doesn't matter in some cases...
I would trade my Vibrant for a G2, mainly because I really miss the physical keyboard. I didn't think I would miss it, but once I started using the Vibrant full time I really could use the keyboard to do my long drawn out posts on DailyKos and other blogging sites that I work with.
In a month nobody is going to be talking much about the G2. Then what are you going to do? Trade your g2 for a mytouch hd just because you saw an unboxing video of it? The vibrant is a kickass phone... The g2 is going to pass like the mytouch slide.
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That's the thing. Is there any good qwerty phone coming out?
The G2 has the perfect build for a qwerty phone... as does the droid 2 (somewhat).
I just don't know. The Vibrant is hot but the G2 is also hot.
And Swype isn't so accurate... typing long posts as stated above is a bit hard to do.
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In a month nobody is going to be talking much about the G2. Then what are you going to do? Trade your g2 for a mytouch hd just because you saw an unboxing video of it? The vibrant is a kickass phone... The g2 is going to pass like the mytouch slide.
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Or like the G1 did..
The Vibrant is an awesome phone, Great display & processor.. Stick with the best Don't downgrade
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I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
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why don't you tell us, why should you get the G2 over the vibrant
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I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
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If you like your OLED screen you will be out of luck with G2 it only has SLCD
Also GPU is better on vibrant with up to 92M triangles/sec
when G2 GPU only has up to 41M triangles/sec
Vibrant supports more video and audio codecs
Not sure about what CPU is better in all honesty the snapdragon, scorpion CPU's high mflops scores are overrated and only benefit in benchmarking not real world use.
G2 is nice if you want qwerty keyboard
and you want on time updates
plus lot more developers in XDA focus on HTC
And HTC phones have great build quality
IDK Ive always gone with HTC but im really liking the galaxy S
G1 Pros -
Hardware Keyboard
Stock Android
Bit smaller (height/width)
HSPA+
Solid Feel
Newer (LOL I'm a new freak)
G1 Cons -
No TV Out?
Stripped Mobile AP
Vibrant Pros -
Super Amoled
Mobile AP
TV Out
Vibrant Cons -
Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
Maybe I'm just feeling insecure and need some security in keeping the Vibrant, or maybe I just need to buy a G2... Don't know.
Or maybe I should get the G2 and compare it to my vibrant for 14 days and return it within the grace period if I don't decide I want it.
I'd hang onto the Vibrant for just a little longer. I know the only reason myself and many other considered giving up the Vibrant is due to lack of support to fix issues the phone has. If Samsung/Tmobile were on it, people wouldn't have any real gripes about the Vibrant.
Forget the software issues for now. What's wrong with the Vibrant, or why should you keep it? I'd like a camera flash. That's all for me. I don't care about the slide out keyboard, I like the screen size and sleekness more than the G2, and I think it's a better looking for overall. HSPA+ would be a factor but isn't offered in the city I live in at the moment. I hear the G2 runs ultra smooth though, so I wouldn't consider the processor speed a factor. If you're n your remorse period, return it now. You don't want to take a chance on Samsung/Tmo or developers completely ridding this phone of issues. If you'd be paying full pop for the G2, just hold off for awhile longer. Vibrant could get software love, G2 could have issues arise, or another badass phone could come out and you'd have a "Should I stay with the G2 or go to XYZ phone?" thread.
Think of it this way.. People still use/support the G1, and it's still a decent phone. The Vibrant is far superior to it, despite issues. You won't have some useless old hunk of junk if you keep the Vibrant. It'll still be good for awhile.
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Vibrant Cons -
Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
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Touchwiz - There are other Launchers (e.g; LauncherPro)
Samsung - How is that a Con?
Plasticy feel - Okay, Sure... But a case would easily fix that..
A case for an already big phone for me... Nah
And by Touchwiz, believe me I've stripped it down more than you can imagine. I'm NOT referring to the Launcher. I'm referring to all the system deep modifications that bog down the Vibrant.
Samsung is a con because... well. Behold 2. Etc. Lack of support/timely updates.
I was expecting FroYo by sep 15. Lol. I've waited. It's October. We're on Eclair. Behind everyone. Well, I'm on JP3, but seriously. Where is it.
I know a lot of people have complained about FroYo's absence, and I didn't think I would get involved. But it's October 3rd.
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A case for an already big phone for me... Nah
And by Touchwiz, believe me I've stripped it down more than you can imagine. I'm NOT referring to the Launcher. I'm referring to all the system deep modifications that bog down the Vibrant.
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try bionix 1.5 with launcher pro, no bog.
If you look at the main complaints about the G2, its all about the hardware.
If you look at the complaints about the Vibrant, its mostly software.
You can change/fix software pretty easily. Hardware not so much.
The G2's hinge system is enough to make me love my vibrant so much more--I cannot wait until I hear all the whining about broken hinges.
Such a dumb design.
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G1 Pros -
Hardware Keyboard
Stock Android
Bit smaller (height/width)
HSPA+
Solid Feel
Newer (LOL I'm a new freak)
G1 Cons -
No TV Out?
Stripped Mobile AP
Vibrant Pros -
Super Amoled
Mobile AP
TV Out
Vibrant Cons -
Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
Maybe I'm just feeling insecure and need some security in keeping the Vibrant, or maybe I just need to buy a G2... Don't know.
Or maybe I should get the G2 and compare it to my vibrant for 14 days and return it within the grace period if I don't decide I want it.
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Get whatever suits your needs. Our opinions can only sway your own personal decision so far. I held onto my G1 from the day I got it because I wanted to see where Android would progress to. I considered getting the mytouch slide given the keyboard then i caught wind of this device. All shortcomings aside, this is the greatest device i've ever owned and I wont be giving it up until a predecessor if any is made.
It suits my needs for my everyday use and I as well thought I would need to have a keyboard but that's definitely not the case now. So my advice to you would be to try it out and see if the G2 would be a more fitting device for you. Good luck!
If Samsung steps up its game and matches the Vibrant's great hardware with great software, than the Vibrant vs G2 will be a must more interesting battle. However, as it stands, the Vibrant may (mostly) overshadow the G2 when it comes to hardware - aside from a few select areas like camera flash and HSPA+ - but it is really bogged down by sub par software.
In other words, what I am saying is unless there is someway of knowing for sure Samsung will support this thing until at least Gingerbread, release the updates on a moderately acceptable timeframe, and fix the **** problems we are having (their track record is not encouraging)... go with the G2. Plus you said you prefer hardware keyboard anyway, so no brainier.
Dude nobody can tell you how you should feel and what you should buy. If everyone here says to keep the Vibrant yet you prefer having keyboards, the choice should be easy. I wouldn't trade in for a G2 because the Vibrant suits my needs just fine... but that's me.
You need to decide.
I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?
I lovemy epic. Greatest phone I've had. It does everything I want. I got the epic to future proof myself.
Itsvery easy to flash the leaked froyo. You don't even gotta be rooted! Also, theleaked froyo is bascally a release candidate, being almost complete but still lacking little things like bluetooth audio out.
If those are the phones on our short list, get the epic. When samsung finally releases official final froyo,those phones will have nothing on the epic.
If you can't wait for froyo, then a5least get a new dualcore phone so you can be sure you won't be left behind
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Agreed. The epic is absolutely fantastic. Even on 2.1 it's vastly better than the evo, which my girlfriend has. The nexus s however looks great and if that was on sprint it'd be a toss up for me. Don't listen to all the nay saying going on right now. Samsung easily had the best camera, screens and processor combo available for the current gen. Once you go oled it'd be hard to go back. I just recently flashed the new trulyepic 1.2 rom and imo, that's the way to go right now if want froyo. Runs fantastic.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).
NecroNetics said:
I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?
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the keyboard is convenient but i dont like it. my roommate has a g2 and it feels alot better..
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yes
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4 inch is fine. 2.2 might be out soon but the roms out leave very little to be desired anyway... then again u cant really go wrong with any of the phones on your list haha.
Thanks for the replies, guys.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).
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The carrier isn't important to me. It relies solely on the phone -- although, I think Sprint has one of the cheapest plans.
If trade my epic for a nexus s any day... The screen on both if my epics became loose after weeks and I harshly use the keyboard anyway
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I guess it really depends on what you are coming from. I was a die hard blackberry user.... *throws up a bit* came directly to and specifically waited for the epic after seeing several inferior android phones but knew it was where I wanted to settle once I was able to dig deeper helping a few friends mod.
Point being if it will be the first phone of this caliber, I think you will love the epic and there is no reason not to in most cases as the phone is blazing, couple it with some of the mods from the devs here.... it will be sweet. That being said, the same would likely apply to most of the other phones in your list.
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Only if you want a keyboard. I think that's all the Epic has over the Evo at this point. Yes it's faster, yes the screen is better, but.. Samsung support is terrible, while 2.1 runs fine and there are 2.2 leaks its still a sorry state to be in for a "flagship" phone.
IF you're interested in Roms.. go with an HTC. While the Evo is running a 98% functional CM7 and MIUI, and (Insert popular rom name here), the Epic's (while the developers are all awesome! This is NOT a knock) are more or less just customizations and ported applications with a breakthrough here and there such as EXT4.
Samsung is absolutely ridiculous "#neveragain". The keyboard skips letters, the GPS is moody and only works when it wants to, updates are pretty much MIA. Yes the epic is a little bit faster, with a more colorful screen, but at what cost.
Thanks to the Skippy keyboard I've become a professional on the onscreen keyboards and am highly considering a Evo off of Ebay while I can still sell the Epic for more. Maybe that gives you an idea of what it's like to own a Samsung.
</endrant> All rants aside... it's not a bad phone by any stretch of the imagination. Samsung is just better at products that don't need much support after release... like TV's...
The epic (galaxy s phone) has the best diplay and fastest GPU on the market as of posting this.
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Just want to get a chat going about this whole android vs apple os situation. So why not see which out of the two best phones sprint currently has to offer that can truly own the iphone4.
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Neither.
The iPhone4 is a great piece of hardware and has the gigantic app store as a ridiculously awesome selling point.
The Epic4g has similar hardware to the iPhone 4, but has a much more open OS that allows user customization and has much more media playback capability than the iPhone or Evo4g. Where the iPhone has a higher res screen, the Epic has a much better looking screen.
The Evo4g has a larger screen than the iPhone but with a smaller resolution. The Evo4g has the slowest hardware of the 3, but has the largest screen and a kickstand. It also has media playback capabilities that are hindered by HTC's refusal to offer hardware acceleration for Divx, which places it ahead of the iPhone but behind the Epic4g.
Neither phone "owns" the iPhone. Of the three, I obviously think the Epic4g fits my needs the most. I am also not a fan of iOS at all, but there is no arguing against the might that is the App Store. In fact, I think that iOS is absolute garbage personally, and I use it daily on my iPad. I don't like Apple as a company really because of what they do with their software, but there is absolutely no arguing that they put out the highest quality hardware in the business.
Well...I think we should just be comparing android phones in this situation. Because the iPhone isnt for Sprint so even if we were to all come to the conclusion that the iPhone is the best phone out there, there's nothing we can do about it. But with the Evo and Epic we can compare/contrast and switch. But I think there are already threads like that so...meh.
But if I were to pick a Sprint phone to compare to the iPhone...I'd choose the Epic and I would say that they are about the same. I wouldn't throw the Evo in the mix, I just got an Epic today and I'm never going to look at my Evo again(I'd rather go back to my 1st gen iPhone before I go back to the Evo)...I could write essays about everything wrong with that device.
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Well...I think we should just be comparing android phones in this situation. Because the iPhone isnt for Sprint so even if we were to all come to the conclusion that the iPhone is the best phone out there, there's nothing we can do about it. But with the Evo and Epic we can compare/contrast and switch. But I think there are already threads like that so...meh.
But if I were to pick a Sprint phone to compare to the iPhone...I'd choose the Epic and I would say that they are about the same. I wouldn't throw the Evo in the mix, I just got an Epic today and I'm never going to look at my Evo again(I'd rather go back to my 1st gen iPhone before I go back to the Evo)...I could write essays about everything wrong with that device.
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When i had my evo it started getting slower and slower over time and the battery would drain faster than ever.
I'll tell you this..not the EVO..ironically the iPhone has better hardware specs then the EVO...the Epic and the Galaxy S line are right now the only Android phones that beat the iPhone hardware wise..
I say both best the iphone because of android I prefer Epic over Evo
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When i had my evo it started getting slower and slower over time and the battery would drain faster than ever.
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I know!! >.< so frustrating. And idk, the dev community is bigger so it has that, but I'd rather have a device where you dont have to rely on the community that much. I mean, I rooted my Epic today and put on 2.2.1 and this thing is amazing. I'm not thinking about any other roms or anything, I'm already happy. With the Evo, as soon as you flash one rom and kernel combo, you're only happy for like 10mins, then you find all these things you dont like and you're flashing something else...And must of it is all the placebo effect. Out of all the kernels for the Evo, there are only 2-3 that actually seemed to help, the rest were the same as stock. But idk...I'm just an angry ex-Evo user. After using the Epic today, I'm just pissed off at the Evo.
Epic = iPhone > Evo.
And apple is lucky that they dont try to put iOS on everything, or else their phone would be garbage..but at the same time, since they didn't do that, thats probably what's going to bury them. Well..that's if Android doesn't bury itself first.
I need the Epic's physical keyboard.
Well, I got my Epic first and I love it, but 4 months down the road, I got tired of waiting on Samsung/Sprint to release 2.2 and the source code and just recently got myself an Evo to play around with also. Both are great phones, and the Epic definitely feels better in my hand is easier to type with when I am doing long emails or long text messaging. I find my Evo (only had for a few days now) to be awesome in its own aspects. It gets the latest and the greatest from Cyanogen MOD with CM7 being AWESOME. Untill the Epic actually gets the source code released and more development can happen, then I think I will stick with my Evo. Cause when that actually happens, CM6 will be done and CM7 will be ported shortly after and work fully, and then I can sell my Evo.
Oh, and btw, iOS sucks. I can't stand their layout, so I can't really compare the 2, I played on my friends 3gs and it's like using a 1 button mouse to me. What the hell were they thinking with 1 button to rule them all at the bottom. I can't stand it. Apple does a pretty good job at upgrading their OS, but they will never be as good as Android because of the open source programmers and developers we have that will continue to push the envelope with what is released.
Epic....
cos I own one
ok, so i am going to upgrade my phone soon, i have 3 choices and i am not sure which one to get; Motorola Milestone X, Samsung Galaxy S, or HTC Merge.
any thoughts?
I'd look up each on xda development website and see which has better ROM choices and which development teams are involved.
From that information I'd pick the one that has best and most options.
Good luck
V's CDMA Hero
I try to get a phone thats on Xda cspire really doesnt have any good phones that has development on here , you should wait till they release 4g
Are you talking about the Galaxy S 2, or just the Galaxy S? If it's the Galaxy S 2, go with that. I know people will come in and say Sammy is slow on updates, but I don't think they will disappoint with the S 2. Coupled with the last 2 Nexus phones have been Samsung, I think it shows Samsung's dedication to Android.
Otherwise, I'd get the Milestone X. I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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im going with the motorola photon. not alot of development going on but thats not really a problem when the phone is beastly out the box(so i hear dont own one myself).but getting one in two weeks. im going to root it and run it stock, until some genius unlocks the bootloader without losing 4g.
I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I have an Evo 3D, and while it's definitely a step up from the OG Evo, HTC has killed the capability of the phone with their Sense UI. I don't get any FCs, but there is a lag when the the carousel is spinning. The frame rate of the spin is not very fluid. The only reason I have the 3D is because I was having issues with my Evo 4G, and it was replaced with a 3D. If I were in the market for a new phone today, I would go with the Epic Touch 4G, and not look back. But, I hope the Galaxy Nexus comes to Sprint, as I think I'm done with carrier customizations, since I always revert back to near vanilla Android (CMx) anyway. I just hope the 4th gen Nexus goes to Sprint (not due for an upgrade until Jan 2013), and has a LTE radio. I'd like for it to be a world phone, but will be satisfied with LTE and Jelly Bean, or whatever Googles uses for the letter J.
I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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laie1472 said:
Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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I don't think you read my first response. I played extensively with two of my friends' phones, one an SGS2, one an Evo 3d, both of which have cm7 loaded on them. I rebooted them both before I did a comparison. The SGS2 was _considerably_ faster in every respect. Then I went to a Sprint store to see if it was just some random thing. In the store, after rebooting them, the SGS2 was _significantly_ faster as well with both having stock roms that were wiped clean the night before my arrival.
All off the differences were real world differences. I think it's interesting to see speedtests act so differently, too, since both phones were priced at the exact same $199.99 level. The SGS2 was about 35% faster, repeatedly, when they did side-by-side comparisons. That matters to me, especially when every other phone operation was better, both under CM7 and stock.
The only thing I'm seeing in your response is that you haven't played with both phones and you think yours, without having done an empirical test, simply "must" be just as fast. Go compare for yourself, buddy.
As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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""shooter on Deck""
laie1472 said:
As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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Well you have no credibility left!
ganjah said:
I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
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How many thanks I have is unimportant I also checked your profile and it seems most of your posts are just complaints and requests this helps insure that this is my last post on this subject. Also if you believe what I wrote or not doesn't concern me the least, such matters are pointless just like your posts. I understand that some people have trouble focusing there thoughts so I'll leave you to yourself so you hopefully get it all worked out. I really hope you do. Have a good one.
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""shooter on Deck""
You ignored everything I said, absolutely everything.
You gave no evidence for your claims except for your fake story. I noted that every review that compares both phones shows the difference I saw. This isn't opinion. It's fact, proven by multiple benchmarks and side-by-side comparisons.
I'll make this easy for you. Watch this video. It's real world performance. There's a distinct advantage for the SGS2.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2-video
I can understand if you prefer the Evo 3D for whatever reason. It's entirely acceptable to do so. However, to claim that its performance is better than the SGS2 is, simply put, wrong on almost all accounts. I didn't expect someone with so many Thanks to be such a jerk. It's good to admit when you're wrong. You might try some humility sometime.
I heart my NS4G that cost me $30. Paying $200 for a phone at this stayof the game is rather pointless imo, but I am enjoying browsing these hero threads without being bombarded by repeat ICS posts
Edit: that should be stage of the game
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lol @ the guy that thinks the evo3d is as good as the sgs2
and lol that he thinks its faster