So i've tried many many builds, and just yesterday, a question came to my head and I was wondering if someone can give me some charifications.
- If a camera doesn't work in a build, the problem is within the build (it doesn't have the code of operate it), right?
- If the screen freezes from touch, the problem is within the build (gsensor), right?
But then what about problems like skipping music? ppp that keeps disconnecting? insanely high 60mA battery drain on standby? do these problem also lie within the build? If so, where does the kernel kick in (ie what exactly does it control, and how come i can change kernels for different builds)
Thanks in advance =)
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
The camera not working the Desire HD build is the lack of a camera driver since it hasn't been released. That is the build itself. When HTC releases the full ROM, then the camera can be added.
The G-Sensor problem is in the kernel, although it is almost completely fixed in the newer kernels.
Power problems are a combination of the build, WM ROM, and radio.
Music skipping is build and kernel (I think)
And PPP is just PPP itself which is in the builds.
Most people don't understand how important kernel is.
Desire HD build camera not working because of missing camera driver to work with this build, the camera driver is inside kernel, HTC just released kernel source for G2 and Desire Z, hopefully we soon have working camera on Desire build.
Most the problems we have is kernel's problems
Bottom line: if kernel is stop developing, no matter how many builds, versions, that builder put out every day WILL NOT solve the problems.
For me, the skipping music is a major turn off for any of the evo builds. But then I'm always stuck with the dilemma: should I change build, or should I just switch kernel?
There are so many combinations between builds and kernels that I want to make sure I can actually accomplish something by trying out the different combos...
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Music skipping is NOT a kernel or build issue....its totally because of SD Cards....keep a backup of your whole Android setup right now which is causing playback skipping and use the same when Android comes to NAND and I can bet a good amount of money, your music will not skip at all...
Would you like to tell me how to backup and use the same setup now when NAND comes?
zip the whole thing up then rename it to leoimg.nbh then wait for NAND to come then flash right?
NO, you CANNOT backup the whole Android setup now the use it later when NAND comes.
v-b-n said:
Music skipping is NOT a kernel or build issue....its totally because of SD Cards....keep a backup of your whole Android setup right now which is causing playback skipping and use the same when Android comes to NAND and I can bet a good amount of money, your music will not skip at all...
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Erm... that doesn't explain why I get skipping on a class 6 8gb SD card with Froyo Sense 2.2 but not with Froyo Sense 3.1 or higher on the same card. Please do explain your logic behind it? I always format my card between builds as well.
I have a Kingston 8GB Class4 and Sandisk 16GB Class 2 .... both are formatted with 64k unit size and I have ran builds DesireHD, DesireZ, HyperDroid on both of them one time or another... My music folder has 5 albums with about 80-100 songs in each
For me (and I can speak for myself only), the initial music skipping (on very early DesireHD builds) was resolved by switching to 64k unit size. Using same build and same kernel if one gets music skipping and another person does not, the only 2 factors I feel impacting are the sdcard and the WM ROM(very unlikely)
As for backup for your current setup, I was saying that figuratively
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Hi, everyone...The reason why I create this thread is because this could help most HTC HD2 users solve their problems...Although we are not developers,but at least we as a user can try various combinations of WM rom,Zimage,Android Build, setting, rootfs files...and etc...and get the best combination...It is unlikely for every user to try every build at the moment...so I hope that you all can share your experiences here, and maybe give developers come out with some new ideas....by porting between various builds...Thank you so much...
Currently,i'm using Telstra ver 1.42 stock rom+3/8 cotulla Zimage+michyprima rootfs for dans froyo without sense V1...radio is 2.10.50...8(KRN)...now i'm using android everyday and just open the WM to do some little things like transfer songs and file...now almost everything is working on the build i using...As everybody knew that Camcorder(via third parties or CM6RC2 android build),bluetooth known issues(like files sharing)....furthemore,in my case USB files transfer is inconsistent(sometimes i can find the files that transferred to my phone directly, sometimes I need to boot back WM to see the files),this an weird issue...
So, hope everyone enjoy the android experiences...No developer like(netripper,dcordes,dans,cotulla,etc....)there is no android....
Cheers...Great work guys...We appreaciate your hardwork...
I'm currently using Energy MaxSense and mattcfroyorc1.3a with Radio 2.12.50.02. Been working great for about 3 days now. I found that this combo fixed the robotic voice problem on calls. I've also been able to talk and surf at the same time... I don't know if that was planned or not, but I love it!!! Thanks to all developers.
I'm using matcc + froyo rc1.3a with ChuckyDroid Rom (default radio) and everything works great (asidefrom the known issues)
THE ONLY THING is bothering me is the constant FREEZING is starting to piss me off! Maybe because I am using a class 4 SD
Using Darkstone Desire v5.7 - 25 zimage plus the 1gb image.dat - i use it because i get the best 3g performance right now with it... i tested all others - pretty fast but it seems to lag when it comes to data transfers - on some i just can.t get it to work (there is always wifi, but i am used with 3g). Also, on the froyo builds i have noticed some apps not installing (downloading but not installing). I support all the developers in here, this is just a personal like.
Oh ! i forgot! i.m on energy rom right now
WM ROM: Energy's July 24th Dinik/Glass theme
Radio: 2.12...etc...
Android: MattC Froyo RC1.3a
zImage: 8/3.
This is by far the fastest build I've come across yet, but the phone slows down to an absolute CRAWL when installing apps from the market. Hasn't frozen completely on me but definitely becomes unusable for 20 seconds or so. Other than that I love it. The GPS works great, the data is fast (I never use WiFi) and it's been very stable so far with no crashes in 2+ days.
Browser is very slow to use.
WM ROM: Miri's v1.6
Radio: 2.08...etc...
Android: MattC Froyo RC1.3a
zImage: 8/3.
I have been running this build for almost 4 days now. Very impressive, responsive and overall fun to use. Some of the issues I've noticed include: -
1. Phone grinds to a halt when installing app's (downloading is fine) and resumes again after 10 - 15 seconds later.
2. The browser is extremely slow to use . Some websites will not load completely even after leaving phone for a few minutes. Navigating websites is very slow (i.e. scrolling with finger), can be even worse if flash content available. Pinch and zoom also very choppy on websites.
3. Google maps, when trying to pinch and zoom, when bringing fingers together i.e. zoom-out the map zooms in, and vice versa when trying to zoom-in the map zooms out.
Can someone please explain why the browser can be so slow?
Other than that i'm practically using this android build as my main OS.
Rom: cleanEx Dse 3.5
Radio: 2.11.50.20
Android: froyo 1.3a
I for one am very impressed with the latest development builds of android, there nearly quite there in terms of stability, there are some freezes though when the phone goes into sleep and you try to wake it up. also web browsing is very slow but i wouldn't expect it to be fast knowing it is a beta, but most of the interface is silky smooth, another thing the 3d test app crash sometime trying to access 3d hardware, also when you go back to wm the time has zipped forward. as soon as this os is ready to integrate fully into the HD2 im going to use android builxs permently because wm simply is so outdated and has never been friendly to use. please please get contacts to work and sms import from wm.
Hi,everyone,thank you for the reply you all have posted....great job and great sources of information...Besides,I'm happy and like the way you all listed down the rom,radio,Zimage,version of android build & etc.....it is great...hope more people will share their experiences here as well...
Desire builds are by far the best
ROM: stock 1.66
radio: 2.10.......
Android build: darkstone desire build V5
all in all i found that this is the fastest most stable build, i use launcher pro not HTC sense.
i've tried the dan and darkstone froyo builds but they weren't as stable as the desire builds (especially V5) with lots of freezes and occasional green screens and sleeps of death. still haven't tried the matt builds i gotta admit.
Desire V5:
-calls work both in and out
-sound works great
-smooth scrolling in menus
-browser works smooth with flash
-no freezes, BSODs or GSODs
-no sleeps of death
-wifi & 3G work fine
-market works great
-can install apps from the market or SD card
-G-sensor works great
-apps and games are smooth and fast
issues:
-bad power management which leads to excessive power consumption (therefore leading to short battery life and temperature rising when using the phone)
-mounting SD card
-camera limited to 3MP and camcorder not working
-speed still needs improvements (when using live wallpapers the device becomes laggy, still usable though. photo album in sense is laggy. etc....)
-low ringing volume
i know that many of these issues are problems with all android builds and not just the build i use, but i'm listing all the issues that separate these builds from being our main OS for everyday use on our beloved HD2
Im using shubcraft rc1 v1.1 with the latest zimage....chuckdroid rom and radio 2.10.50.26...everything works great only problem is it lags a little bit here and there...
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HD2 T9193
Radio: 2.07.50.27-2
WM Rom: Miri's 17.5
Android Rom: Desire Build V5 (Eclaire)
1gig data.img
3/8/10 zImage
Been using the Launcher Pro "theme?" since I dislike the Desire Sense homescreen bar/softkey. I've tried other Froyo roms but it wasn't quite the same -- default white bar at the top/CM6's dock bar icon thing (though I did like the default Android lockscreen better).
Haven't had too many problems with the v5 rom, mainly just the battery running out much faster than WM.
Volume seems fine, market place works though I used to get slowdowns and even freezing before I increased the data.img size. Now its probably just occasional slowdowns, I think.
Wifi works as excepted, so does text messaging.
I've been using Cloudy's launcher to boot Android though I'm probably going to have to use another loader since I'd really like to get all the Eclaire files inside a folder instead of having them lying about in the root of my sdcard (but I'm not sure if other bootloaders will solve this problem).
i've tried all flavour android roms available now and various combo's of zImage's
currently using zego version (found on robsbay.co.uk) with cortula's latest zImage.
Stock ROM and 2.10 radio (i think)
The phone is totally usable, have been using it as an android phone in it's various guises for over a week now. Battery life is the real killer, once this is sorted I'll be happier with it.
Seem to struggle using the browser over 3G though, very hit and miss if i can get on any website at all, any ideas what this would be? (T-Mob UK)
I'm using shubcraft cm6rc2.. its working great for me.. my only wish would be for a sense build which is working to be useable for me. So far I've tried darkstone, which works well as well and mattleo with sense..
However, mattleo made my phone run hot and drained my battery too fast and was laggy every now and then, which is kinda of sad because I liked what I was using, especially sense when the rom isn't lagging..
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I've tried shubCRAFT, Energy, dan1j3, xTarantula, Darkstone and mattc. And by far, the mattc and Darkstone builds have been supreme for me. They are smooth and bugless. The mattc is the best of the best, though. I find it to be representative of an actual ROM and believe any battery life issue would resolve itself if it were running in NAND, as and actual flashed ROM, rather than the power hungry card reader.
The latest mattc 1.4 build presents a major speed improvement, especially at the Market, but is speedy everywhere, and buttery smooth. What amazes me is I'm using a Class 2 card....don't yet have a Class 6...lol...and I went yesterday to a local Verizon and checked out the Incredible and Droid X. The 1.3 mattc build was faster and smoother than the Incredible but a bit slower than the Droid X. Now, however, with this 1.4 build, it is neck and neck with the Droid X for speed and smoothness.
The shubCRAFT build, the screen won't light back up after a standby. The xTarantula loops during boot-up and can't make it boot no matter what. The dan1j3 build is also an excellent build and was actually faster and smoother running than the 1.2 mattc build, but it wasn't rooted and I couldn't use setCPU or screenshot apps. Now, however, the mattc build (1.4) is at the tip top of all of them
The Darkstone build is the next best, for me. It is buttery smooth and generally bugless. Once in a while I will get a greenscreen at boot. I love the style and implementation of Launcher Pro in the Darkstone build. Mainly because of the scrolling dock buttons. If the Darkstone build had functioning Bluetooth and GPS, I would be hard pressed to decide which of the two builds, the mattc and Darkstone, I would permanently install if they came to flashable ROMs.
The Energy build was good, but it was too sensitive. Tapping the dots at the dock buttons most of the time brought up the button replacement function rather than the preview screen. I had to tap the dots incredibly fast to bring the preview screen up. This is how the touchscreen function was throughout the build.
My ranking of these builds - "1" being best:
1 -mattc Froyo 1.4
2 -Darkstone Froyo 1.0
3 -dan1j3 Leo Froyo
4 -Energy Desire
Anroid builds
Tried the same, always back to WM, best for Leo until now
im running the latest Dutty ROM that is now the creme one, running great with android, managed a full day battery on android with casual use, not yet tested if there is no echoing with the latest zimage, the freezing can become a pain, had a few times where its froze while typing a text message and ive hit the back key and its deleted the whole message, i think this will be fixed when cotulla updates his kernel to use the extra ram in the HD2 as its only using 252MB atm which is eaten pretty quick when running sense.
mattc Froyo 1.4...
I've been running the mattc Froyo 1.4 and so far, so good. There are obviously still a few bugs running around, but so far nothing serious. The android market has been working well, WiFi worked better than in winmo (in terms of handling certificates), e-mail is working great, and so on... Sometimes the lock screen hangs, and once the screen went very dim but fixed itself after a reload... Have yet to mess around with GPS. Running off the stock SD card that comes with the phone. Complete specs in sig.
EDIT:
OK, so maybe I spoke a little too soon. Some other issues have cropped up, such as random reboots of my phone. Calling has started having a "buzzing" sound to it, and doesn't sound right. I think there is a fix for that, but I've yet to track it down.
TMOUS
Radio: Stock
WM Rom: Miri's 17.5
Android Rom: Darkstone's FroyoV1
8GB Class 6 MicroSD
3/8/10 zImage
Everything is working great with the new zImage. Call quality has improved as well. Only thing really lacking is the Camcorder, which is not really an issue to me.
I find this build to be the quickest and most stable build right now.
WM ROM: Energy
Radio: 2.12.50.02
Android ROM: shubCraft 1.1
the best combination for me... shubcraft runs extremely fast (ok, not as fast as on my desire before but ...),
even when installing software. i used mattc with chuckydroid before and it wasn't that fast, maybe because of sense.
i also hat many errors with it, for example setcpu didn't autostart and that really s****!
and i also wanted to use winmo, but with chukydroid it is far away from usable
No errors until now, when running setcpu and batterytime i have ~130mb free ram, thats pretty good, with mattc there were only ~90mb!
edit: navigon is also running good, not perfect, but good
Device: TMOUS HD2
WM ROM: 21911 Energy ROM (Aug. 1 Cookie Themed)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
Android ROM: darkstone HD2froyo V1
SD Card: Stock Class 2 16 GB
This was my first try at Android on my HD2. It is very smooth, and fast. Marketplace is pretty quick. No problems installing app updates. Most apps install fine. (Pandora, Slacker, Shazam) All working properly.
Calls are good (although can be noisy/static sometimes). I receive and send texts fine.
Wi-Fi works
Playing Videos and music from SD card works fine. Viewing pictures also works fine.
ISSUES:
Slight lag, (especially when scrolling in the app list)
Green screen of death several times
Battery life gets me to the afternoon (barely)
Get Sleep of Death often
Volume is kinda low
Taking pictures with flash is nearly unusable. Feels like too much flash. Picture comes out too bright / white washed
Onscreen keyboard has slight lag with key taps
Flashlight app doesn't work (tried a few)
I hope this doesn't make it seem like I'm complaining cause I'm not. I absolutely love that I have the opportunity to use Android now and am using Android about 70% of the time right now.
is there a good combination that boots android everytime and doesnt die at any point?
using wonmo rom 1.66.405.2
radio 2.11.50.20
and froyostone 3.2
unfortunatly android only boots about 1 time out of 10, why tho?
sometimes boot, sometimes blue screen, sometimes black screen with green htc sometimes resets?
anyone else having this problem but once it boots it works great apart from sometimes dying sod or freeze when i plug in the charger.
i'm using
windows rom: 1.66.404.1
radio: 2.12.50.02_2
my androids boots always.. but there are a few connection drops but it's ok
Mine using Omega WWE v16?? forgotten, radio 2.15.50.xxxx, and Madeejay eVo v1.7, always work except sometimes crash com.android.phone while the system still runs. Just download v2.2 yesterday and while waiting the startup, found v2.3 is out!
Anywa, the v2.2 starts andnow going to check it up.
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg
cheers i'll try that. didnt really wanna start changing my windows rom as well but looks like im gonna have to give it a go as i've tried just about all the radios and numerous android bulids takes about 10 attempts to start up. then if it freezes gotta go through it all again
heard the chunky rom works well with it?
is there any onther settings in windows or android that that need to be on or off for it to work better?
Check my sig - this is a very stable build, I have no issues other than occasionally flaky mobile data connection!
I have found that a fuller WinMo ROM works better for android - I had trouble with some of the "stripped out for Android" ROMs available. Artemis is a high performance ROM with all features, if anyone knows of a more bleading edge ROM I would like to know!
Been using my combo since the beginning. OzDroid has been nothin but excellent. Hyperdroid is, in my opinion, the best build out there.
No problems whatsoever.
Data is strong. Bluetooth is working. This is my everyday setup. Only time I see WinMo is when I update files or whatnot.
murgers said:
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg
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On the energy rom and does seem better but still not get a boot everytime. ive tried mdeejay hd and i like it but still not booting up everytime and had a few sod when charging.
hyperdroid has seemed to be the most consistent for me but is there a desire sense version or theme for it or something?
check my sig, so far so good
my setup works flawlessly.
my first try tho i thought it locked up on initial setup, so i pulled the batt. when i rebooted i ran logcat to see what whas happening, turns out i pulled batt while it was setting audio , i wiped my sdcard and started over.
this time i waited a few min for it to set up the kernel etc, once that was done i conected thru adb and watched the logcat for errors etc. once it calmed down ( about 20 min) then i proceded to log in, set up my google account. once that calmed down i rebooted, loged into the market and lodded my apps etc.... all good.
VBN reloaded 2 minimal winmo.
MDEEJAY rEVOlution 2.0
Radio 2.0.12
Consistent 7mA idle.
Battery lasts whole day normal use (5 phone calls, 30 sms, auto email sync on 4 accts. - about 150 emails..30 mins internet) . No freeze, no SOD. Kow
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Exactly how do you find out what version of ROM, Radio etc. are on your phone?
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
another side note, if it fails to load intermitently, im going to bet that the data on the sdcard is corupt. copy the files off it, format it, then copy back on.
if that does not work, format it wiping every thing and start from scratch.
Best combo
I think if you use the latest tmobile us build 3 14 501 with radio 2 15 50 04, these are my results for two days
the froyo builds with nexus kernel fail miserably,lot of things go haywire or work slowly, wifi slow ,camera flash gets stuck,sods with brightness,apps work slowly,consume battery more
but with the above wm 6 rom with the same radio htc sense builds like
mdeejay rock and they are fast as lightning,everything works smooth
with the above wm6rom build and radio ,on both build types(froyo and evo) there is no robo voice
this i tried even after i flashed the new stock rom it didnot disable my hspl 3 which i had installed earlier.htc sense build worked with it fine.
However i was slightly scared about the new t mobile rom with regard to nexus kernels and i reverted back to energy leo oct 25 build with radio 2 10 50 26 which is awesome.i reinstalled mdeejay evo stock rom which is awesome fast and blazing with some minimal echo still, it works better with the energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26 this is my daily android phone build i use.
My current build test
Currently as i stated above my build is mdeejay evo stock 1.1 with r8 hastarin kernel , energy rom oct 25 and radio 2 10 50 26
for all users i recommend using us hd2 rom builds as there is something different between the two hd2 makes us and non us
as i flashed a non us build 3 14 core wm 6 rom and it did bad things to my android froyo hd 3, mdeejay buildss, so i reverted back to energy roms and now with radio 2 10 50 26 its my daily build with excellent working status (battery at the end of day with no wifi or data is 85%)
i have another micro sd card it has miui build from mcm joon mccm se 3 with hastrarin r 8 kernel which is working awesome with my build but the battery consumption is too much about 4%/hr, i dont know why the nexus based builds consume so much battery. I will work on it this weekend
my defaut micro sd card is 16 gb i got with hd2 it has the mdeejay build ,miui build is on the kingston 8 gb class 4 card.
Micro sd card
I dont know the conclusion of this test results i have
my wm6 rom is energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26, micro sd card is default 16 gb sandisk class 2 card
froyostone v 3.2 was slow on it, while the mdeejay evo stock version 1.1 is blazing fast ,there is something mdeejay does with the animations sometimes they annoy you but are so blazing fast with minimal battery consumption.
This weekend i am getting my class6 16 gb sandisk card and i am going to try all the builds on it along with various radios and wm6 roms. Will post the result as soon as possible.
My question is there is something called swap( disk space) used in linux distros where they use it as a part of their ram space so they keep all the applications in it for faster work . Is there any way we can use it in android so that the apps run faster with minimal battery consumption.
For all us hd 2 users please use radio with 50 in it.
My simulation of froyostone build
I simulated what darkstone did to his hd2 with the same wm6 rom and the same radio and the same android build , but the only difference was my us hd 2 , it failed miserably with wifi slow,flash got stuck and apps were damn slow and sods,ultimately it became unusable and i had to switch to mdeejay build . Thats why i always feel there is something diffrerent in both hd2 models as well as there is some difference in the wm6 rom builds for each of them.
I am still waiting for darkstones new build with sense as it will be always with better stability.
chrisman99 said:
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
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Was facing the SOD once a day till installed WM ChuckyDroidROM (this is IMPORTANT) + 2.12.50 Radio + android ROM of your choice (IMHO mdeejay does it properly
I forgot about these black screens completely
Installing Android = Pain in the A**
for more than a month trying to install android flashing, hard reseting, restoring
i am really tired i even forgot why i wanna use android any way.
my current software information is:
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.19211619.0
rom version 1.66.415.9 (76641) WWE
radio version 2.15.50.14
protocol version 15.42.50.11U
HSPL 3
can any body tell me which of the above needs changing and which android version should i use?
my current android version is froyostone and mp3 not working and incoming and outgoing calls robot sound i cant hear any thing
thanks
ive been playing around with android a lot recently, but i seem to be getting the same or similar errors with every build. i think the problem comes down to an unformatted memory card. i want to start with a fresh phone and memroy card.
my question is which WM build is best for android? i would be using android as my main os but windows mobile would serve as a'backup' os incase android dies on me. i already have a build of android i want to use so just need some advice on which WM build to use. once i have done that i can format the memory card and re-install android.
not sure if it matters, but i would be using a boot loader to get into android. i have radio 2.15.
matthewharmon102 said:
ive been playing around with android a lot recently, but i seem to be getting the same or similar errors with every build. i think the problem comes down to an unformatted memory card. i want to start with a fresh phone and memroy card.
my question is which WM build is best for android? i would be using android as my main os but windows mobile would serve as a'backup' os incase android dies on me. i already have a build of android i want to use so just need some advice on which WM build to use. once i have done that i can format the memory card and re-install android.
not sure if it matters, but i would be using a boot loader to get into android. i have radio 2.15.
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I'll try to answer the question by sharing my own experience:
I have T-Mobile US HD2 model and tried several builds under "stock" ROM and Radio 2.08 and most of them worked with really bad battery life. Anyhow, I finally decided to move on with installing Hard SPL 2.08 so I can flash custom ROMs into my device. After that following happened:
1. I tried ChuckyDroid ROM lite - barely occupied any space after boot in WinMo - but did not affect Android and how it worked AT ALL! I had shubcraft 2.0 at the moment;
2. Finally after all the chasing I wanted to have fully functional WinMo Rom and fully functional Android build and here is my setup:
Energy 2.5 GTX WinMo ROM based on 3.14 latest TMOUS Update (with the start button on the top);
Android HyperDroid 1.7 with mychprima's kernel (240 lcd density);
Radio is 2.15.50.xx
Re-formatted 16GB stock SD Card I got with my HD2
Results:
Super-smooth Android operation at all times;
Without SetCPU installed (since kernel is already OCd and UVd) my battery life has been AWESOME! I get constant 3-6mA battery stand-by and that alone gives me really good battery life. I am getting one day and few hours after 1.5hr re-charging - that I did not beat with anything I tried on my hd2 before this setup. I have reseted phone last time several weeks ago and not a single force close message so far (to knock on wood hihi) ... No reason to lie - but if you have some time it may be good combo to try our. BTW I do not offer any guarantees on what you do with your phone lol - that's my "fine print" lol
eenbox said:
I'll try to answer the question by sharing my own experience:
I have T-Mobile US HD2 model and tried several builds under "stock" ROM and Radio 2.08 and most of them worked with really bad battery life. Anyhow, I finally decided to move on with installing Hard SPL 2.08 so I can flash custom ROMs into my device. After that following happened:
1. I tried ChuckyDroid ROM lite - barely occupied any space after boot in WinMo - but did not affect Android and how it worked AT ALL! I had shubcraft 2.0 at the moment;
2. Finally after all the chasing I wanted to have fully functional WinMo Rom and fully functional Android build and here is my setup:
Energy 2.5 GTX WinMo ROM based on 3.14 latest TMOUS Update (with the start button on the top);
Android HyperDroid 1.7 with mychprima's kernel (240 lcd density);
Radio is 2.15.50.xx
Re-formatted 16GB stock SD Card I got with my HD2
Results:
Super-smooth Android operation at all times;
Without SetCPU installed (since kernel is already OCd and UVd) my battery life has been AWESOME! I get constant 3-6mA battery stand-by and that alone gives me really good battery life. I am getting one day and few hours after 1.5hr re-charging - that I did not beat with anything I tried on my hd2 before this setup. I have reseted phone last time several weeks ago and not a single force close message so far (to knock on wood hihi) ... No reason to lie - but if you have some time it may be good combo to try our. BTW I do not offer any guarantees on what you do with your phone lol - that's my "fine print" lol
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thanks for that, Energy ROMs seem to come up a lot, and as development for my current WM build (CleanEx DSE 6.1) seems to have stopped, il give that a go. im currently getting a lot of force close messages revolving around the sync features. also my HTC calender doesnt work and contact images do not display (I assume because it cant sync them from facebook). im currently using MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.7 as my android build, but il try your setup. battery life has become a bit of an issue for me, but i am a 'heavy' user.
is it better to format the memory card through WM or through the PC? and should i be setting any options or just leave them at default values?
matthewharmon102 said:
thanks for that, Energy ROMs seem to come up a lot, and as development for my current WM build (CleanEx DSE 6.1) seems to have stopped, il give that a go. im currently getting a lot of force close messages revolving around the sync features. also my HTC calender doesnt work and contact images do not display (I assume because it cant sync them from facebook). im currently using MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.7 as my android build, but il try your setup. battery life has become a bit of an issue for me, but i am a 'heavy' user.
is it better to format the memory card through WM or through the PC? and should i be setting any options or just leave them at default values?
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What I did was reformatting under multimedia card reader - I do not think it matters but that's what I did.
I did find some registry tweaks that manages sd card power a while ago and tried them under stock rom and radio - it did not work but I never bothered to go back since my battery is not really getting drained - lasts enough for me.
I only installed BSB Tweaks and disabled EVERYTHING and left only power-saving ON. I have no clue whether this helps at all or not but just did it as a preventive measure ... also, make sure auto-lock is DISABLED under Windows. That was one of the old issues to get un-wake-able screens ... however, so far I have not really had any problems.
Keep in mind: if you want to install many apps that you would like to test - do not do it in massive installations one after another. Some apps are known to screw up battery life and stand-by mAs. Therefore, install couple at the time - after reboot if you get low mA - then app is not draining the battery.
So far I have experienced Extended power widget to drain the battery a lot and also any type of news browsers like e-buzz, pulse, etc - they seem to constantly pull data and remain active. However, they may work for you if you have data disabled for the most part (which is probably not the case) - forgot to mention mine is on 3/3.5G at all times.
- Background Data is checked (ON);
- Auto Sync is unchecked (OFF);
- Brightness disabled under very strong light (110 lumens of my flashlight hihihi) and set on 35-40% I think - somewhere around there.
- I have three home-screens and do not feel I need more
- Weather widget, current widget and google search widget - I do not have any clocks for simple reason - when the phone is locked I can easily see the time by clicking the hardware buttons - so what's the point of the background one ...
If I remember any other tips and tricks I'll let you know.
I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.
I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.
I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?
Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most
i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)
Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.
CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...
Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.
I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
splinters69 said:
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds
Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.
Hi,
I have a EU HD2 and currently running "HD2_NDT_MIUI_GINGER_DEVELEPMENT_V30.0_MAGLDR_New" which is great but does use a lot of battery when using Wi-fi.
I am looking for the most reliable, stable and best performing Sense rom available. The rom needs to have everything working as I use the camera and wi-fi frequently.
I have also a 1 gb sd card so something that can work with that.
Many thanks.
xda_apprentice said:
Hi,
I have a EU HD2 and currently running "HD2_NDT_MIUI_GINGER_DEVELEPMENT_V30.0_MAGLDR_New" which is great but does use a lot of battery when using Wi-fi.
I am looking for the most reliable, stable and best performing Sense rom available. The rom needs to have everything working as I use the camera and wi-fi frequently.
I have also a 1 gb sd card so something that can work with that.
Many thanks.
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Take a look at the one in my signature, but be advised, that the camcorder won´t work properly (only 320x240 is working well) and you will have either graphic glitches or deactivated hardware acceleration. This is a gingerbread build and all of them have these "default" bugs, with the graphic glitches and the camcorder. A lot of them don´t even have a properly working power menu, so you can´t turn off the phone properly. A few have this working at least once, but that is enough The other builds have this "quick boot" app included, but somehow this doesn´t bode well with either the apps i am using or the sd card i have in my phone, so use those with caution.
Sergio76´s Coredroid Froyo (1.7, 1.8 coming up but that can still take a while) is a great rom as well and with FroYo builds you won´t have either glitches nor a not properly working camcorder (as a matter of fact, everything will work there).
But langthang´s NDT Ginger series are great builds as well and i´m not sure that the battery drain is typical for that rom. You seem to have quite a small sd card, the one with 1gb i would not recommend with any of the sense builds. Sometimes a slow sd card can be the reason for higher battery drain as well, if i were you i´d start with a different sd card and watch if the battery drain improves or not?
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But langthang´s NDT Ginger series are great builds as well and i´m not sure that the battery drain is typical for that rom. You seem to have quite a small sd card said:
Langthangs roms are the best
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Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259110
Best Sense 2.0 ROM so far. Everything is working fast and reliable. No bugs like Sense 3 ROMs. Still waiting for a working and bug-free release....
Additional tuning:
- Move dalvik-cache to SD ext4 (a2sdgui)
- supercharger script with Option 8
Everything is running fine and stable.