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Hello everyone,
yes i am a new user and subscriber. i purchased the wing about a month ago and so far i like it, but there are some things that i need to address. first, there is a memory problem that from what i have read, is common. i have a 2Gig microSD and most of my videos are on there. i am using TCMP to play movies. i was wondering what to use to get the best speed and usability out of my wing. what is safe to delete to make this thing race. again, i am just getting into the terminology (kitchens, cookbooks etc.), so please bear with me. a quicky, how do i get to the registry? and does the iphone theme really work good for this phone?
thanks everyone for any help
DK
A super fast rom is (ASerg's 10e wwe) just my 2cents
digitalknoll said:
Hello everyone,
yes i am a new user and subscriber. i purchased the wing about a month ago and so far i like it, but there are some things that i need to address. first, there is a memory problem that from what i have read, is common. i have a 2Gig microSD and most of my videos are on there. i am using TCMP to play movies. i was wondering what to use to get the best speed and usability out of my wing. what is safe to delete to make this thing race. again, i am just getting into the terminology (kitchens, cookbooks etc.), so please bear with me. a quicky, how do i get to the registry? and does the iphone theme really work good for this phone?
thanks everyone for any help
DK
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I suggest a custom rom. The T-mobile stock rom is not very good. I'm currently using Open Touch 4.0 by TTRAN and im loving it!
I'm a new Wing user also. I've had mine for a few days and i'm absolutely clueless when it comes to the rom's and making your phone look completely different. I read a little, but to someone who doesn't know all that lingo.. it's like a foreign language somewhat.. lol. Not that bad, but you know what I mean. I'm sure i'll figure it out eventually, but as of now? I'm clueless. I was told I need to HARD SPL my phone or something and I have no idea what that means or how to do it, lol. I downloaded a few things and got them to work though. But like I said, that's it.
Follow instructions. I understand people don't want to potentially "break" their phone ... but this stuff is TOO easy. Don't be scared of it.
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Follow instructions. I understand people don't want to potentially "break" their phone ... but this stuff is TOO easy. Don't be scared of it.
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Yeah. Well I was gonna ask you for some help (you seem to like helping people and you seem to know what you're talking about), but I can imagine how many people do that. I know how it is to be asked how to do stuff when it's very easy to begin with. I've been an admin on online games and stuff, so that part I understand. There just seems to be so many things you can do to this phone and to most people, they probably have no idea where to begin.
I was able to download a few cab's and get them to work, which was cool. I have my Wing overclocked right now at 247 I believe. Then I have a few other nice things. I use the Palringo for AIM and that's nice. I can't wait to change the overall look though. I'm not just confused on how to do it in general, but i'm also wondering whether or not you're supposed to use certain .cab's with certain rom's and all that. Ya know?
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Yeah. Well I was gonna ask you for some help, but I can imagine how many people do that. I know how it is to be asked how to do stuff when it's very easy to begin with. I've been an admin on online games and stuff, so that part I understand. There just seems to be so many things you can do to this phone and to most people, they probably have no idea where to begin.
I was able to download a few cab's and get them to work, which was cool. I have my Wing overclocked right now at 247 I believe. Then I have a few other nice things. I use the Palringo for AIM and that's nice. I can't wait to change the overall look though. I'm not just confused on how to do it in general, but i'm also wondering whether or not you're supposed to use certain .cab's with certain rom's and all that. Ya know?
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Find out which rom your interested in using and you will usually find a faq and instructions on how to flash the rom on the first post. I use Open Touch and followed the instructions to the T on my first flash and had no problems. Like Duprade said it really isnt that hard. Dont let the big bold red messages scare you. The cooks are just covering their behinds just in case you miss an instruction and brick your phone.
islinx, whats overclock? you are in the same boat as i am (glad to have you). i have also installed some roms, but i am ready for the big facelift now. i will do some searching and try to find a cool & simple look. i ran across a "show your today screen" post, but i lost it. they had some really really nice ones. i'll check back later. thanks for all the posts.
DK
Check the thread with all the .cab files and you'll find the download to overclock your phone.
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islinx, whats overclock? you are in the same boat as i am (glad to have you). i have also installed some roms, but i am ready for the big facelift now. i will do some searching and try to find a cool & simple look. i ran across a "show your today screen" post, but i lost it. they had some really really nice ones. i'll check back later. thanks for all the posts.
DK
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Look up battery status to find what your looking for.
I will be home from my trip to MIAMI tomorrow ... so who ever needs help or questions answered, just catch me online and IM me and i'll give you a hand.
Doesn't matter anymore, lol. I deleted everything off the phone, put the plastic back on and i'm sending it back today. As much as I LOVED the phone, i'm not gonna keep it and feel like I got ripped off. I used a promotional code when I got the phone. That was the reason I was getting the phone at this point in time to begin with. If I wanted to pay the normal $300 for the phone + activation, I would of went to the store and got it THAT day. But I called over the phone with a promotional code to get the Wing for $100 after $50 rebate, free activation and a free bluetooth headset or car charger. The customer service rep. told me the promotional code was taken and I was all set. I'd get my phone within 4 days. I did get it 4 days later and yesterday I called them back just to make sure the promotional code took effect and I was getting some money back.
Long story short, I must of got transferred like 7 times on the phone and I was on it for about an hour. Nobody knew what to say and I had to explain my situation each time. The customer service lady basically lied to me because the promotional code all of a sudden isn't a working one. I've seen other people online use the same code and it worked for them. Recently too. Big surprise there. If I wasn't saving money for a new car in April, I would have kept the phone. But a couple hundred dollars makes a huge difference.
Thanks for your help anyway though.
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Reserved until I think of something
Lol that's great! Has anyone been able to pull up their contacts when trying to write an email?I can't seem to get contacts to come up when I want to write one of them always have to write in their name. Also has anyone had problems replying to people? I hit reply and most times I do the name comes up blank!! Very annoying!
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Lol that's great! Has anyone been able to pull up their contacts when trying to write an email?I can't seem to get contacts to come up when I want to write one of them always have to write in their name. Also has anyone had problems replying to people? I hit reply and most times I do the name comes up blank!! Very annoying!
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Yah I actually been having the same problems which is extremely annoying...
why do i waste my time taking apart my htc (g1 latest) devices in order to stop them creaking when i type messages on keyboard? or try and get the movable screen level when shut instead of wobbling (and creaking) on it's axis pin?
ho hum *yawn* will i ever learn?
i think this is my last htc device that has moving parts!
... i mean, when i type, it's like im on a boat, all i need is the tide lapping at my bow ...
Yeah trying to type while g1 is charging is downright ugly!!!
stats555 said:
Yeah trying to type while g1 is charging is downright ugly!!!
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Oh I agree with you... Uhhh this phone sometimes bugs me so much...
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Oh I agree with you... Uhhh this phone sometimes bugs me so much...
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Lol well i have my doubts then something restores my faith in it. I just used mikey's tutorial sticky on encoding video's and after doing it and watching lord of war and the transformers on this beautiful phone my faith in the future of the g1 is once again restored!!!
Just wondering what all the hype about root is because I have no idea what I can do with it even if i had it.
Semi-interesting Android phone (not G1)
This is a little off-topic, but it might be of some interest to Android aficionados.
http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/android-powered-kogan-agora-pro-mobile-phone/
Kogan, an Australian company, is scheduled to release the first Android phone for domestic and worldwide shipping in January. Its form factor is something like an HTC Excalibur (T-Mobile Dash) or a Blackberry Curve running Android. But the price is the best point. The "Agora Pro" version with GPS and wi-fi will sell for AU$399 and the leaner "Agora" for only AU$299. Using Handy Calc, that comes to about US$260 (£175/205€) for the pro and US$195 (£130/155€) for the plain version.
Pros (IMHO):
Cheap
Familiar smartphone form factor with no moving parts
256MB on-board memory, 128MB flash, plus SD-card slot
624MHz processor
1300mAh battery
3G worldphone for everything but T-Mobile USA's 3G
Will work with AT&T 3G
Cons (IMHO):
Smallish resistive touchscreen
No 1700MHz band for 3G on T-Mobile in the US
Uses a joystick-like pointer instead of a more ergonomic d-pad
Same OS limitations as the G1 (bluetooth, etc.)
At least it looks more legit than the G2 phone that one company said was coming out LOL
I wonder... The phone looks alot like BlackJack III
, would it be possible to flash WinMo to the Kogan....
I like it I miss the candybar layout- a sliding keyboard that squeaks vs. no moving parts for me is a no brainer (actually the setup on the new blackberry is intriguing as well) It would be nice if the specs on the internal memory would start increasing, seeing as how cheap memory seems to be getting lately. If it worked on tmo's 3g, I would be all over it.
stats555 said:
Lol well i have my doubts then something restores my faith in it. I just used mikey's tutorial sticky on encoding video's and after doing it and watching lord of war and the transformers on this beautiful phone my faith in the future of the g1 is once again restored!!!
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Haha nice, oh well I still like the Dash for now... Even though the G1 can do somethings that the dash can't.... and the 3g on the g1 is amazing... I wish there was ultimately a way to have an emulator on the g1...
Could anyone point me to the right direction of this all > What are Root, RC8, RC29 and RC30 etc. Is there a starting point on this forum about the phone, about installing apps, from market and pc (pc > dont think this is possible yet?). I was under the impression the G1 was as open as can be. Then what's the point of jailbreaking. Does the over the air update effect a G1 in The Netherlands? I've read alot, but I can't put the pieces together/in the right order, because I didn't start from the beginning. Thank you in advance.
I live in The Netherlands and we have 240 Volts coming out if the walls. In the US this is 110V if I'm correct. Is it possible to use another HTC charger bought in The Netherlands to charge the phone?
Finally got my screen to stop squeaking...
the easy way....
(this is actually a friends G1, he wont tell me how it happened, but I am pretty sure it was thrown.)
djind said:
Could anyone point me to the right direction of this all > What are Root, RC8, RC29 and RC30 etc. Is there a starting point on this forum about the phone, about installing apps, from market and pc (pc > dont think this is possible yet?). I was under the impression the G1 was as open as can be. Then what's the point of jailbreaking. Does the over the air update effect a G1 in The Netherlands? I've read alot, but I can't put the pieces together/in the right order, because I didn't start from the beginning. Thank you in advance.
I live in The Netherlands and we have 240 Volts coming out if the walls. In the US this is 110V if I'm correct. Is it possible to use another HTC charger bought in The Netherlands to charge the phone?
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1) Go to the Developers sub-forum for the RCxx threads (more detail there than you will probably want initially, then not enough detail as you hack-away!)
2) installing apps are phone -> market or internet at the moment. I think there is a way to install from the SD card (which means PC -> SD) but I personally have not explored that method yet.
3) it is very open and will be more open in the future, this is still a "baby" phone/OS. The RC30 OTA was to stop 99% of the people from trashing their phones by mistake thereby reducing the calls to customer service. On the other hand, plain text typing from the keyboad (reboot, etc) wasn't a very good thing. We'll see improvements on this in the future. Personally, I think the term 'jailbreaking' is misapplied here, the iPhone has many more issues. As far as SIM unlocking, that is available free from TMo.
4) the OTA updates will catch up to you in the NL, I am not certain if you will get the UK version or the US version.
5)the US charger is autosensing for line voltage and accepts 110-240V AC, no need to buy another unless you'd prefer a native plug for the wall instead of the US 'spade' type.
Welcome to a great phone.
--M
Connect G1 with USB. If you're missing the USB driver, get it here. Grab a copy of adb from here. Unzip it into the folder with the apks you want to install. Open a console, navigate to the folder with the apks and adb, and type adb install xxx.apk, where xxx is the name of the apk you want to install.
Anyone want to sell a g1 or maybe trade?
Is their anyone out there that would either sell me a g1 at a reasonable price or maybe trade for a hermes plus some cash. The hermes is a cingular 8525, unlocked. I have the charger, headset, usb cable, plus I just bought a new i-mate jasjam case for it. The only thing That is missing is the front camera. If anyone is interested please let me know. I know it is unlikely that it will happen but let me know.
gospeed.racer said:
the easy way....
(this is actually a friends G1, he wont tell me how it happened, but I am pretty sure it was thrown.)
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My jaw dropped to the ground in sheer horror on that one.
I was going to get on here and let everyone know that there "is" an x9500 selling on Amazon for $600, but by the time I got on here, it was purchased.
There were actually two, one sealed in the box, I bought that one!! So, I'm back!!!!! Not that this really means much to anyone, but I'm excited!! This time around I'm not messing around with the Shift until the warranty expires, except of course for liberating it.
SWEEETTT!!
Welcome back.
I just got my Shift back from warenty repair and it has had a replacement screen fitted, so I am feeling like I have a brand new Shift again and share your excitement!
WOE IS ME!
So, My Shift buying problems begin anew. The first time I tried buying one, it took 8 sellers before actually being shipped one. Now, on this second go around I have just been let down by the first. This is ridiculous.
Anyone know where I can get a new x9500?
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I was going to get on here and let everyone know that there "is" an x9500 selling on Amazon for $600, but by the time I got on here, it was purchased.
There were actually two, one sealed in the box, I bought that one!! So, I'm back!!!!! Not that this really means much to anyone, but I'm excited!! This time around I'm not messing around with the Shift until the warranty expires, except of course for liberating it.
SWEEETTT!!
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Welcome to the club (again!) and here I thought nobody was trying to purchase the shift anymore. Way too outdated in my opinion but the phone function and having to be connected to the internet where ever you go makes my shift priceless.
I was planning on selling mine but honestly, I wouldn't part with it. =) I just need one more thing and that would be a mugen battery. Still planning on trying to install osx on it? =P
Well, I've got one . . .
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Welcome to the club (again!) and here I thought nobody was trying to purchase the shift anymore. Way too outdated in my opinion but the phone function and having to be connected to the internet where ever you go makes my shift priceless.
I was planning on selling mine but honestly, I wouldn't part with it. =) I just need one more thing and that would be a mugen battery. Still planning on trying to install osx on it? =P
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Yeah, well . . . I am unable to find another Shift, so I gave up. Which means I'm still selling the accessories, one of which is a Mugen 6600 battery. It will be back up in the marketplace soon.
I was successful at getting OS X to boot externally, but never internally. I have all the info any one would need to take up the project. I was going to try to install it to an SD card and just have it external all the time, but since I'm not able to find a Shift . . . meh.
It's Like Riding a Roller Coaster
I found someone that is selling a Shift used - like new, so I'm giving it a try. I only wanted to buy new, but I think I can live with "like new" so long as it really is.
So, after I find out about the warranty, I'll figure out what sort of modifying/projects I want to subject it to this time around.
Me! Me! Me!
TopRowGuywithFeet said:
I was successful at getting OS X to boot externally, but never internally. I have all the info any one would need to take up the project. I was going to try to install it to an SD card and just have it external all the time, but since I'm not able to find a Shift . . . meh.
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I would be interested in your notes. Do you have to have a Mac for this or can we buy any Intel OSX dvd? Is it easy to find "drivers" or whaterver they are called in Mac terminology? Which parts/buttons/devices are not working under your OSX setup?
Thanks.
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I would be interested in your notes. Do you have to have a Mac for this or can we buy any Intel OSX dvd? Is it easy to find "drivers" or whaterver they are called in Mac terminology? Which parts/buttons/devices are not working under your OSX setup?
Thanks.
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You do have to have a working mac or working hackintosh (such as a Dell Mini) in order to create the USB Installer. You also have to have a retail OS X Install DVD. I was trying Snow Leopard (10.6). You should also register as a developer with Apple, for legal reasons.
I found most of the necessary kexts (drivers), to get stuff working. I got the basics working, screen, keyboard, mouse. I even got the USB Ethernet to work, but didn't have it long enough to try out anything else, i.e. bluetooth, wireless, etc. One of the biggest things that I had to overcome was screen resolution, but once I found a specific program, and ran it after installation, everything "fit" perfectly. Similarly, I was never able to get Chameleon to fit to the screen. When it came up it was just grey screen. So you have to knnow the button combinations to get it to do what you want. But I've seen other people using Chameleon on smaller screen resolutions, so I have to figure out the tweaks to Chameleon.
I'm getting my new Shift today, so depending on the status of the warranty I may or may not try this hack again. I'll let you know.
It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile (which I have already tried), I'd be willing to keep the phone!
alexs0fly said:
It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile, I'd be willing to keep the phone!
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have you updated to the latest rom? texting has greatly improved IMHO. that was also my major concern with this phone prior to the update.
I agree with you to a certain extent, Alex. But I am more of a tinkerer to find solutions to the problems. If there weren't ANY problems with the phone, I would get rid of it!!!!
As far as texting... have you tried Swype? I came from a hardware-keyboard phone myself, and hated trying to text with the onscreen keyboard. But after getting used to Swype, I can say that I am MUCH happier.
With all that said... I'll give you $100 for your phone!!!!
I'll go to 105.
Alex,
If you bought a car, and a few months later the manufacturer announces they have a modification they can do to the car that will address certain issues, including one that you're experiencing (let's assume something other than critical safety issues)....do you return the car, or let them apply the modification?
It's the same idea with the new tmo ROM...it's an official update that you should try, especially with your SMS issues. No product is perfect out of the gate, and an official update like this is the only real way for them to try to fix issues from the factory. If you like the phone other than those reasons you listed, it seems silly to walk away from it already without even giving that a try.
Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys
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I've got 110.00
Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?
Software Vs. Hardware
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.
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Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.
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Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?
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I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
np231 said:
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.
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Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.
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I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though
your hd2
alexs0fly said:
I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though
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let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.
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Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps.
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Apps that are compatible with this phone's resolution? Apps that compare to the UI of other platforms? Games that are similar to one on the other platforms?
Until you can show me this, I will still consider WM phones to be a NON-app instensive platform. Yes, they have all the apps you could need to do anything with, but they don't have all the apps you WANT.
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let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.
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What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.
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What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.
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pm me with a price and i will let you know if i can afford it.
i want to get rid of my phone too, evo 4g is out and it puts this phone to shame.. the laggy texting ect..swype wont even help u.. and u can get swype for a lot of phones anyway.
I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents
rysky007, I agree with you for the most part
Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
rysky007 said:
I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents
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PoisonWolf said:
Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
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A better analogy is you are buying a stock BMW and expecting it to drive like a F1 race car. Fact is, you have to add certain available add-ons to make it into a M5-ish car with the type of race tires you want and the suspension your driving habits need.
Just wanted to check in.... love the size and speed of this tablet but lacks features due to 1.6 limitations. Not much lag like my captivate... cant wait for flash and upgrade to this new panel UI...
So does everyone here use this as their everyday phone?
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Sure do use it as my everyday phone N it works a treat.
Just wait to u get away from 1.6 N get 2.2..it's a whole new phone N it is amazing. Flash is awesome.
To be honest the new stage ui I hate..have been trying it on dj Steve's Froyo rom.. launcher pro is dam good although not sure if u can get it as ur on 1.6.
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It's my every day phone. Only adjustment has been making sure I have a charger with my me at all times.
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Yeah its my every day phone too. I was a little concerned about its size for a phone but after about 2 weeks the device feels smaller in your hands. I couldn't go back now.
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Going on 3 weeks here. Still with 1.6...was going to root & update, but think I'll just wait and see what happens around turkey day.
Got a otterbox defender and use it with the belt clip. For a couple days, it felt "big" on my belt, but doesn't anymore.
Its my everyday phone. The size us not an issue you Ger used to it. I love the phone and can not go back to anything else. I have had the phone since August and can't put it down. ;-)
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Have it for 1 month now and travelled abroad with the Streak for 3 weeks - great device . Now using it as my only phone but I use it more cautiously than I did my hd2 - it feels slippery so I'm afraid it may slip out of my hind while I put it away after a call. Apart from that I dont miss the hd2 at all.
Just sold my Captivate and going to use this as my everyday phone as well. It seems like though if your ear doesnt line up exactly right to hole you wont be able to hear and I have to re adjust again to hear them.
Do you guys get that?
So excited for 2.2 so I can really get settled down. the 1.6 apps sux..
U guys notice some games dont work. Angry birds so far...
Is it because screen is too [email protected]?.
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It doesn't work on 1.6. If you dl the beta version that one works.
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Also that gmail on 1.6 only allows one account to import contacts etc.... u have to use native email app. To put all on phone but it wont import contacts.
Also after having it a couple days now when I talk on phone I cant hear unless my ear is exactly @ hole. I catch myslef saying what all the time. Wife gets mad..
last but no least is the haptic feedback we cant turn off.
This is my quick thoughts after coupke days use.
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