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Selling my Hermes/TyTN on eBay and need your advice

Before I list it, I want to make it look like the nicest phone on the market.
I already unlocked it but now I'm looking for the best ROM to make it stand out of the crowd. I was thinking about Schap's but I don't know many ROMs.
Can you guys give advice?
Thanks in advance!
-Nick

I don't think it really matters... What you're asking about is eye candy, skins, today apps and such. Do a search on skinning. Ultimate Launch, RLToday, Manilla Touchflow 2d - these are a few Apps that make the today screen more funtional. You need to look at the skins developed for them to get a good idea.
Cheers...

Yes but I also want cool functionality out of the box so the buyer has it all after a hard reset.

The rom you like may not be the rom someone else likes. It depends on the person who wins it. If I got it, I can guarantee that it wouold be looked at quickly then reflashed within 10 minutes of me getting it. Most people I know who have this type of phone don't even know how to reflash , or are too scared to. I had 2 people who got a Jasjam because I got one and showed them what you could do with it. I ended up being tech support for them and still am even though I left that workplace.
My advice, Hr the device, put on a today replacement that you think looks good and put a picture on ebay. Anyone hardcore will probably have a new os on it pretty quick but someone who has no idea will leave it as is.
Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
The rom you like may not be the rom someone else likes. It depends on the person who wins it. If I got it, I can guarantee that it wouold be looked at quickly then reflashed within 10 minutes of me getting it. Most people I know who have this type of phone don't even know how to reflash , or are too scared to. I had 2 people who got a Jasjam because I got one and showed them what you could do with it. I ended up being tech support for them and still am even though I left that workplace.
My advice, Hr the device, put on a today replacement that you think looks good and put a picture on ebay. Anyone hardcore will probably have a new os on it pretty quick but someone who has no idea will leave it as is.
Cheers...
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That's a good idea indeed, but what about WM6.1?
Just the sight of it make some go crazy. In the condition my phone is, I might be able to get in the 300's.
I might find the simplest 6.1 ROM (I downloaded S64's ROM, don't know about the others) and load it in there. Then I'll take a video, put it on YouTube and add it in the listing.
I plan on adding it to the header.
To say I paid this phone 180$ a year ago... (plus 50$ worth of shipping charges for repairs)

I like S64's ROMs but they can be PACKED with 3rd party apps... I tend to find my hermes runs a little slow with his ROMs. Try a lite version though, they're still pretty packed but don't have the apps you don't need.
Personally I'd try a PDAViet rom, something like OS 5.2.20226 (Build 20226.1.3.0 PV DVH) Diamond(01) 3G 6MB PP. A little old, I know, but stable and has a lot of things you want. You can also add other apps on the memory card as cab files to be installed as needed.
Cheers...
You can find other 6.1 ROMs in the WM06 forum. Ask yourself "What do you think the rom needs to have if I went to buy this phone?", Then make sure it has this.

Donate My Crushed G1

Please be kind to me as this is my first post on XDA although I have been reading and utilizing these forums for quite some time. If this question has already been addressed, please let me know. I have already searched the forum and was unable to find anything on the subject but perhaps I wasn't as diligent as I could have been.
I left my G1 on the roof of my car and it fell off and was run over by a car. I already ordered a new one which will arrive in two days (I do nightly nandroid backups so all is well in that department). I would, however, like to donate the crushed G1 to one of the developers on this site so that they can salvage it for parts. Believe it or not, I was actually able to boot to the recovery screen and do a wipe (Alt-W). Obviously I could not see this as the screen is crushed but it rebooted after I hit Back+Home so I am pretty certain that there are some valuable working parts for someone who knows what they are doing.
I have taken advantage of the ROMs on this forum for awhile (Kavana's WinMo 6.1) as well as How-To posts (Apps2SD, Rooting G1, Nandroid, MAM, etc.) and countless other posts to keep my phone in perfect working order, and would like to give at least a little back to the hard working developers here. I would like a moderator to assist me in getting the phone into the hands of the right developer. I am sure it has some value to someone. I am pretty certain that the motherboard is in working condition as well as the keyboard and various other parts (it still vibrates on boot). I don't know much about hardware as I am largely a developer and a user. I don't want to take it apart only to find out that I have ruined what was once a good part. Ebay was an option but I figure that I will actually get more value out of donating it since XDA is literally my lifeline and smartphones would just plain suck without this site.
Please reference the attached photos. Sorry they are not so great. They were taken on my Dash because I was too lazy to take out my good camera.
Post replies here and we can go from there.
Thanks,
Aaron

Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two

alritewhadeva said:
Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two
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haha ill take it

i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.

ill take it... i know im not a dev but ive been wanting to learn how to take the g1 apart and put it back together but i couldnt justify the price of buying one.. ill surely make a guide (both a pictoral one and a video on youtube)... if not i understand

PM Sent to you a little earlier.

jaygajay said:
i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
heres a solution

I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance

Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..

I am keeping the battery which still works. Now I have three! The battery door is crushed too. My goal is for the phone to better not just one person in need of parts but the community in general. If a developer can use this to help out the rest of us it will have been worth it. Like I have stated, I am not sure what use it will be but I am sure that someone out there can utilize it for the benefit of the rest of us.

jusplainmike said:
I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance
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Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.

brian_v3ntura said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
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ICBM said:
Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..
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So why do T-Mobile and HTC sell them so expensive?

donate your Devices
if you would like to donate any device that you dont use.
i take any cellphone i fix them and recycle the one that dont work...
the one's that work i give it to people that need it...
also i use them to make videos take them aparts///// and e.t.c..
donate @ [email protected]

just pm you

G1 disassembly
If you want to take apart your G1, here's a good start:
http://androinica.com/2008/12/19/htc-dream-service-manual-now-available-for-download/

Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.

oreoOozZz said:
Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.
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A battery from HTC directly (after they first tried to deny my warranty status) is 37, shipping included.
As for a crushed device, I should try to find one in that condition since emulator will not run on my laptop. More or less the process goes make a program or update, open my sd card, load it, try it, improve it on the computer, delete the sd card copy, move the new one... very agravating.
Not to mention if you plug the device into the computer right, you can load your device AS the emulator (but I don't really want to do that to my "daily driver")

I would like to suggest a moment of silence to honor your G1.

aaronratner said:
Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.
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lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.

goldenarmZ said:
lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.
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Haven't got one yet, the lead I had seems to have disappeared.
If interested in sending it for jtag study, PM me.

Installing a theme on an un-rooted phone

Forgive me if this is a stupid question.....Can I install a theme on my G1 if my phone is not rooted/jail broken?

Themes are rom specific so if you are not rooted to flash a rom than you also can not flasha theme. If you want a theme I would suggest going with a home replacment app like dxtop or something of the like.

And there are no stupid ?s just some where we can point and laugh at

gridlock32404 said:
And there are no stupid ?s just some where we can point and laugh at
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Nice quote.

If you are not rooted then you should try aHome, OpenHome, or dxTop

appreciate the help fellas

No prob andy, most of us are here to help untill you annoy us than we start getting a tad bit rude, oh big hint of advice. Root your phone if you really want to see the potential of it

gridlock32404 said:
No prob andy, most of us are here to help untill you annoy us than we start getting a tad bit rude, oh big hint of advice. Root your phone if you really want to see the potential of it
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Yea, I've had the phone less than a week and will probably root it. Problem is, I've never done it before. I watched the video on youtube and read about it but am a bit weary.
If anybody lives in or around Detroit and wants to do it for me, hit me up with a PM. Obviously, there's compensation involved

spartan_andy said:
Yea, I've had the phone less than a week and will probably root it. Problem is, I've never done it before. I watched the video on youtube and read about it but am a bit weary.
If anybody lives in or around Detroit and wants to do it for me, hit me up with a PM. Obviously, there's compensation involved
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PLEASE don't go by youtube videos. We've seen to many people come here from getting lost on some bs video. There are plenty of guides here and people to help. Rooting is so simple if you just take your time and read. And in the long run it will be worth it cause when you run into a problem you will understand it. And hey you can give us some of that COMPENSATION.

I want some compensation too
I had my g1 for 3 days when I rooted and never looked back, well okay maybe this one time in band camp...................................................

gridlock32404 said:
I want some compensation too
I had my g1 for 3 days when I rooted and never looked back, well okay maybe this one time in band camp...................................................
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Hey hey now, lets not get greedy. I asked for compensation first.

spartan_andy said:
Yea, I've had the phone less than a week and will probably root it. Problem is, I've never done it before. I watched the video on youtube and read about it but am a bit weary.
If anybody lives in or around Detroit and wants to do it for me, hit me up with a PM. Obviously, there's compensation involved
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HOLY CRAP!!!!!
Someone who is researching and learning. These are the type of people that I love helping. My Gtalk address is in your PM inbox, you are free to ask questions with no compensation needed.
P.S. I like the idea of waiting a couple weeks because then when you root it, you can really appreciate what it offers over stock.

Ok ok, this one is your's than can you at least send a cig my way, I forgot add my phone bill before they shut me off to my todo list so now I am back to poor, I must say they had good timing when they sent me the bill is overdo text when I was right outside the t-mobile store next to the supermarket. Do you think t-mobile is tracking us, next thing you know they will be monitoring my b.a.c. and sending me text like "you know you want to buy a mytouch"
Scary, I think I got one last night, but it erased it self to not leave any proof

gridlock!!!!!! I need your advise!!!!!
I got a cigarette stuck in my sdcard slot while trying to.... well let's not worry about why..... How do I...... eh forget it.

Two words. Paper clip, wait that might make it worse finger lickin, just pour some beer in there. Get your g1 drunk and it might puke it back up, could always try giving it a laxative

New HD2 Owner (T9193)

Just a couple quick questions, please.
Ordered a T9193 from AU (Telus ROM, if I'm not mistaken) and it will be arriving in a few days. But with all the knockoffs out there, I'm wondering if any of you have heard anything about the HD2 being a target of counterfeiters. I would think not because of the new hardware and the cost of it, but you never know.
Also, if any of you guys have a 'FAQ for new HD2 owners who are on AT&T', that would be great. Just wondering if there are any settings, ROMs or applications I should be loading up.
Thanks!

Bill, did you get your phone yet and if so, I could use a little help if you've got a little spare time.
Tell Opus I said hi by the way
Thanks
George

George, I'm at your service. How can I help?

Ok boss, here's what I need or have problems with..
"Does anyone have the HTC Touch HD2 T9193?
If so, could you show me what the screen looks like with the fonts set at max size?
There's also supposedly a feature that lets you enlarge the screen 200% and I would love to see some pics of what that looks like 'cause I really have a problem finding a phone where the stuff on the screen is big enough for me to see without glasses.
Maybe someone could do this and put it on a scanner so I can get a good picture to scale? I could then download a pic of an iPhone and scale it to size and compare the two side by side."
My problem is I can't see anything without glasses and the reason I got an iPhone a couple of years ago which was borderline in font size at the time. My eyes have gotten worse since then and besides, I hate the damn iPhone. Worse PHONE I've had.
Great at other stuff but as a phone, it's a piece of $hit!
Funny considering it's got PHONE in the name...
Thanks Bill
George

George, the built in (Windows Mobile) font size control applies only to text in applications, not the text for displays like icons or other informational labels. However, if you can track down a shareware utility called "Advanced Configuration" by Julian Schapman, I believe it has the ability to do what you need. If not, I'm sure there's a tweak for that somewhere around here, and if one doesn't already exist, this is the place to ask to get one done for you.
BTW, my eyes aren't what they used to be twenty years ago, either, which is why I went with the big screen of the HD2. We're in the same boat/

Here's the problem Bill. Ever since I started looking for a good phone some 3 years ago, I've never been able to find something that would give me larger fonts and info.
Screens have always been big enough but the space allowed for a phone number, picture of the person calling or something has always been limited.
I got help a few years ago by Negri Electronics (negrielectronics.com) and they recommended the iphone which WAS a good choice for font size and so on.
Anyway, in iPhone all that was better but still left a bit to be desired because there WAS more space available but lots of it was wasted.
I am now on the lookout for a new phone and again the same problem.
I found the program you mentioned and NOT a word about making stuff bigger... http://www.touchxperience.com/en/applications/advanced-configuration-tool.html
As for getting someone here to write something or hack it, that's all good but I would have to first BUY the damn thing so I can see how software works on it and what if it doesn't work?
The problem is, I have no way of KNOWING that I'll get this resolved
Hell, I posted a thread here asking for help (not this thread, another one but I can't post the link as it won't let me) and still not even one answer. The internet is great but sometimes, it can take AGES to get something resolved
THanks
George

Well I guess your answer is that
the HD2 is as big as you are going to get until they get a phone app for the iPad.

George, it sounds like you haven't seen the HD2 in person yet. The first thing I'd recommend is to find someone who has one (even if it means going to a Tmobile store) and look at the phone in person.
With regard to the Advanced Configuration Tool, if you look under the list for 'user interface', you'll see a selection for: vertical icon spacing, horizontal icon spacing and icon title font size. However I don't know if this will work with the HD2's interface so you'll have to ask of someone who uses it.
I'm willing to bet that what you want can be done. It's probably just some settings in the registry that you can change, or find a utility that provides a user-friendly interface to change settings such as the ACT or BSB Tweaks.
A last resort would be to hire a ROM chef to cook up a basic interface for you which would accommodate your needs. Might cost you some money, but it would get you exactly what you need. Try touching base with the developer of Co0kie's Home Tab and/or one of the better known ROM chefs (look in the HD2 ROM Development forum here) to see if you can find someone to work with.
Other than that, I'm pretty much out of ideas.

The HD2 is in comparaison to for example the Diamond 2 or any other previous HTC phone 'huge'. Font sizes on these previous versions are much smaller.
Once you get used to the HD2 you realize how small those older models' screens and letters really are..

THanks guys.
Then there's the small matter of the 8-900 bucks for the phone but that's another issue.
How much do you think I would have to pay someone to mod this for me and would you possibly have a couple of links for me as I'm not sure even who, what and where these people are?
I will post something on the forum of that advance software site, thanks
By the way, the local stores don't have the 9193 and the other stuff they have isn't working. Dummies only. Eh, dummy phones I mean
George

guiri_too said:
THanks guys.
Then there's the small matter of the 8-900 bucks for the phone but that's another issue.
How much do you think I would have to pay someone to mod this for me and would you possibly have a couple of links for me as I'm not sure even who, what and where these people are?
I will post something on the forum of that advance software site, thanks
By the way, the local stores don't have the 9193 and the other stuff they have isn't working. Dummies only. Eh, dummy phones I mean
George
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George, be creative here and make your own solution. Here are two choices on how to go about it.
1) Post an inquiry to meet up with someone in your area explaining that because of your eyesight you wanted to see an HD2 in action to see if it's right for you. If you happen to be in the NJ, Southern NY or Norteastern PA areas, I'd be glad to meet with you so you can see mine.
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2) Just go to a Tmobile store, tell them you're thinking about buying the phone, that you have bad eyesight and you wanted to see a functioning unit to tell if it's right for you and you can operate it with your eyesight being as it is. Obviously don't mention that you're intending to go with an AT&T carrier, but then again, Tmobile is a great provider and unless you're in a bad area I see no reason why you shouldn't consider them.
As to finding a chef, just put a post in the ROM Development forum. There are many known chefs such as Dutty, Artemis, Energy and others who may be more than happy to code something for you at a price. How much? I don't know, but hell - they do it for free and post their stuff on the forum here for nothing for the benefit of all of us with nothing asked in return but a good will donation, so I'm sure you can work something out.
Pricing on the phone is steep but you can get a T9193 for about $700. I bought mine from this guy via Ebay for $740-ish delivered to my door, but if you shop around and wait it out, I've seen buyers get them for as low as $600.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlocked-HTC-HD...wItem&pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4aa0aa52ec
I mean, really - it's not that complicated, unless you're intentionally trying to make it hard on yourself. You'll never get anything if you don't ask for it, earn it, or make your own luck. Just be persistent and you'll find it'll be worth your while, no matter what the end result. The victory is in the trying.

Yep, you're right but all this is new to me.
Other things that I have more experience with, I can find easier but all this is new and I'm a bit lost.
I just want to narrow it down so I post in the right place and so on because some post I've made, I have had NO response too so no matter if I tried, it didn't work.
For instance, I'm looking for this ROM development forum or threads and I can't find it. I'm guessing you're talking about the windows software development forum/section?
Also, I was scrolling down and looking at the phone specific forums and I can't even tell which phone is which. It's not that easy bro. Well, for me it's not.
Some things I'm good at and others, I'm not.
I'm not really that lazy. I do a lot of research on the web but man, it gets tiring when you only get bits and pieces and you're going back and forth. Anyway, I'm just trying to explain. I will continue as I DO need a phone.
Where should I post to find someone in my area?
The local store didn't have one when I was there a couple of days ago.
Thanks
George

By the way, I just called the t mobile store I was at on monday and the guy confirmed that his phone that he showed me was the HD2 and whatever was on his screen, I had a real hard time seeing, even the icons were too small for me to distinguish.
George

It's been a fun ride...

It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile (which I have already tried), I'd be willing to keep the phone!

alexs0fly said:
It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile, I'd be willing to keep the phone!
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have you updated to the latest rom? texting has greatly improved IMHO. that was also my major concern with this phone prior to the update.

I agree with you to a certain extent, Alex. But I am more of a tinkerer to find solutions to the problems. If there weren't ANY problems with the phone, I would get rid of it!!!!
As far as texting... have you tried Swype? I came from a hardware-keyboard phone myself, and hated trying to text with the onscreen keyboard. But after getting used to Swype, I can say that I am MUCH happier.
With all that said... I'll give you $100 for your phone!!!!

I'll go to 105.

Alex,
If you bought a car, and a few months later the manufacturer announces they have a modification they can do to the car that will address certain issues, including one that you're experiencing (let's assume something other than critical safety issues)....do you return the car, or let them apply the modification?
It's the same idea with the new tmo ROM...it's an official update that you should try, especially with your SMS issues. No product is perfect out of the gate, and an official update like this is the only real way for them to try to fix issues from the factory. If you like the phone other than those reasons you listed, it seems silly to walk away from it already without even giving that a try.

Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys

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I've got 110.00

Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?

Software Vs. Hardware
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.

alexs0fly said:
Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.

adamhlj said:
Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?
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I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
np231 said:
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.
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Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.
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I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though

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alexs0fly said:
I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though
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let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.

np231 said:
Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps.
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Apps that are compatible with this phone's resolution? Apps that compare to the UI of other platforms? Games that are similar to one on the other platforms?
Until you can show me this, I will still consider WM phones to be a NON-app instensive platform. Yes, they have all the apps you could need to do anything with, but they don't have all the apps you WANT.

jaliscojorge said:
let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.
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What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.

alexs0fly said:
What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.
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pm me with a price and i will let you know if i can afford it.

i want to get rid of my phone too, evo 4g is out and it puts this phone to shame.. the laggy texting ect..swype wont even help u.. and u can get swype for a lot of phones anyway.

I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents

rysky007, I agree with you for the most part

Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
rysky007 said:
I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents
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PoisonWolf said:
Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
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A better analogy is you are buying a stock BMW and expecting it to drive like a F1 race car. Fact is, you have to add certain available add-ons to make it into a M5-ish car with the type of race tires you want and the suspension your driving habits need.