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[Q] Root and OTA updates?

Did a search, only thread i found was one that didn't have the question answered either.
So the million $ question! Will having a rooted vibrant not get OTA updates?
The stickied "tips and tricks" thread says yes, you can still get OTA updates, but some people seem to say yes, others no, and even others say "no idea"
Can we have the questions answered?

chocobo15 said:
Did a search, only thread i found was one that didn't have the question answered either.
So the million $ question! Will having a rooted vibrant not get OTA updates?
The stickied "tips and tricks" thread says yes, you can still get OTA updates, but some people seem to say yes, others no, and even others say "no idea"
Can we have the questions answered?
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This is answered in the very first post on this page (it's the Sticky with Tips/Tricks in the title).
Yes. You can receive OTA as long as you're on stock JFD/JI2-3-4 ROM (i.e. not bionix/FTW/etc.). If you updated to JI5 via Kies it appears to be hit/miss.

Yes you can but I got tired of waiting for the update so I just installed it through ODIN.

chocobo15 said:
So the million $ question! Will having a rooted vibrant not get OTA updates?
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http://www.google.com/cse?q=rooted+...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
How hard did you search?
20 mentions of rooted users getting ****ed by their OTA in the threads listed after 30 seconds of looking.
Quite a few also list no issues. You'll get it, but there's no guarantee it'll work.

Im rooted and I got the notification. But with the hit or miss of bricking my phone. Ill stay on JFD till 2.2 comes out. I have no issues with my phone. And for those who like me just want to stay on stock root JFD and got the notification and want to get rid of the little icon of postponing the update. Just use a task killer and its gone.
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i will wait as well as its not worth it thanx on the task Kill

Help Help My vibrent wont turn on

Just a wont turn on I used odin 3.1
s1_odin_20100512 pit
and T959UVJE8 PDA , Phone files and selected repartetion and started , it had 2.2 on it and was not working fine.
was installed and the restarted and there you go not working

alnasher76 said:
Just a wont turn on I used odin 3.1
s1_odin_20100512 pit
and T959UVJE8 PDA , Phone files and selected repartetion and started , it had 2.2 on it and was not working fine.
was installed and the restarted and there you go not working
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Um...
I'm going to assume you can not get into download mode or recovery mode?

yes I cant get to download mode or recovery

Same problem. My vibrant does not boot Tried the battery method, removing battery, holding volume buttons while putting it back in. Does not work Any other ideas I could try ?

DEAD Vibrant after OTA
Yesterday I borked my Vibrant. Spent alllll night using Odin to get it back to factory and then allowed the Tmobile ota update figuring that it worked fine before. Well it went to reboot and never came back. BLACK screen. Left it plugged in while I ate breakfast with tears dripping in my pancakes (I went to bed at 6am!) and I noticed the top of the phone was very hot. Not the battery the top.
Sometimes I hate technology but technology always hates me!
Would it be worth building a DIY plug?
Sam Fisher

First of all, what the HECK were you trying to flash onto your device? The only thing you should be using ODIN for is JFD or JI6. Those are the only official T-Mobile firmware you should be flashing to restore from a brick besides Eugene's Froyo, but that's for like emergencies.
Second of all, If you have the Bell Vibrant, this is the wrong forum.
Finally, there is no ODIN 3.1. You must be using Odin3 1.0 which is VERY unstable. Please do more research before you attempt to do things to your phone.
Address these concerns and we can proceed.

Kangxi
Be more helpful before you post here in our forum and do more research.
If Odin3 v1.0 is unstable you should offer the ignorant massess here the correct version to use including a link to it.
Sam Fisher

dentman said:
Kangxi
Be more helpful before you post here in our forum and do more research.
If Odin3 v1.0 is unstable you should offer the ignorant massess here the correct version to use including a link to it.
Sam Fisher
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Listen here little guy, I was talking to him not you. I asked him three questions to verify what he did because if he doesn't even have the right model phone then this is the INCORRECT forum. The firmware he was trying to flash is incorrect and not stock. T959UVJE8 looks to be firmware for the Vibrant but stock firmware is T959UVJFD and the OTA update is T959UVJI6.
Posting in "our" forum Mr. 3 posts? You are telling me to do more research? That's funny.
Everything I mentioned can be found by simply going to the development section and looking in the Bible. I already mentioned that you need JFD and JI6. The latest version of ODIN is 1.7. All of this can be found in less than 2 minutes.
Bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
Honestly, you need to start by looking through there. It seems you both have a lot to learn and spoon feeding you isn't going to solve the bigger problem. Hope you get it resolved. Look through there, find the files you need (you need to get use to looking in the Bible) and come back. If you still have problems after READING, I will walk you through it. Good day.

kangxi said:
First of all, what the HECK were you trying to flash onto your device? The only thing you should be using ODIN for is JFD or JI6. Those are the only official T-Mobile firmware you should be flashing to restore from a brick besides Eugene's Froyo, but that's for like emergencies.
Second of all, If you have the Bell Vibrant, this is the wrong forum.
Finally, there is no ODIN 3.1. You must be using Odin3 1.0 which is VERY unstable. Please do more research before you attempt to do things to your phone.
Address these concerns and we can proceed.
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TMobile Vibrant. It does not even start. So, Odin is not even in the picture. I was flashing the 3 button fix for vibrant using update.zip method. It flashed successfully, but after flashing, it never came back on.

I managed to get my Vibrant into DL mode the other day when it was just a black screen by...
-take out battery, sim, and sd card
-plug phone into wall charger (not computer)
-hold volume buttons while popping the battery back in
it took me a couple times, but i guess the wall charger gets a better jolt?
fyi: my vibrant is not hardware locked
hope this works for you

dentman said:
Kangxi
Be more helpful before you post here in our forum and do more research.
If Odin3 v1.0 is unstable you should offer the ignorant massess here the correct version to use including a link to it.
Sam Fisher
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Don't ask for help as you've been added to the ignore list....and it's gettin full
Kangxi
Listen here little guy, I was talking to him not you. I asked him three questions to verify what he did because if he doesn't even have the right model phone then this is the INCORRECT forum. The firmware he was trying to flash is incorrect and not stock. T959UVJE8 looks to be firmware for the Vibrant but stock firmware is T959UVJFD and the OTA update is T959UVJI6.
Posting in "our" forum Mr. 3 posts? You are telling me to do more research? That's funny.
Everything I mentioned can be found by simply going to the development section and looking in the Bible. I already mentioned that you need JFD and JI6. The latest version of ODIN is 1.7. All of this can be found in less than 2 minutes.
Bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
Honestly, you need to start by looking through there. It seems you both have a lot to learn and spoon feeding you isn't going to solve the bigger problem. Hope you get it resolved. Look through there, find the files you need (you need to get use to looking in the Bible) and come back. If you still have problems after READING, I will walk you through it. Good day.
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kangxi has it right.
~SB

Rooting Guide For A Noob

i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks

viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.

Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight

viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.

See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
1337squirrel said:
Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.

Please post questions in the Q&A section.

[Q]

Hi all, Q&A forum wasn't much help. Perhaps you can shed some light for me.
I've been disconnected from the Epic community recently. Just the other day I found out about the official Froyo update, but my phone has never notified me about this. Also, when I go into settings to check for updates, it tells me there is none.
Everything tells me they are up to date; profile, firmware, and Android, but when I try to update the PRL it tells me I need to reset the radio. I have no idea what that means or if it's even relevant to why I cannot upgrade to 2.2.
How do I get my phone to update? I haven't been able to find anything in a search.
If it helps, my PRL version is 60676 and my firmware is 2.1-update 1.
Thanks for any help.

Update was pulled because it contain "bugs". Search for EB13 zip.exe ON HERE and you should find a mirror. Most users recommend using odin to install or factory reset 3 times then do the upgrade and you won't have any bugs. That's what I did. Their is a camera bug that is really bad but their is a fix in the development section. Search in there "EB13 camera patch".

DeVoges said:
Hi all, Q&A forum wasn't much help. Perhaps you can shed some light for me.
I've been disconnected from the Epic community recently. Just the other day I found out about the official Froyo update, but my phone has never notified me about this. Also, when I go into settings to check for updates, it tells me there is none.
Everything tells me they are up to date; profile, firmware, and Android, but when I try to update the PRL it tells me I need to reset the radio. I have no idea what that means or if it's even relevant to why I cannot upgrade to 2.2.
How do I get my phone to update? I haven't been able to find anything in a search.
If it helps, my PRL version is 60676 and my firmware is 2.1-update 1.
Thanks for any help.
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I think what happend was that sprint pulled the OTA cuz of some issues. However u can use odin and download the .tar file here found in the development section and that should work with now issues or if u don't want to loose any data look for the update.zip in the dev section also. Sorry I can't give links cuz im on my phone but it shouldn't be to had to find good luck if u have more questions just pm me
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Awesome, thanks for the help guys. Now I'm orientated with all this, I gotta avoid another prolonged absence here so I don't get so lost again.

i did the update through ODIN and it worked fine because the update was pulled
so far no issues
if u do the update with CW3 mod and EXT4 through ODIN, i don't believe the stock ROM will work

Any reason my phone didn't alert me when the update was available? It had always done that before with other updates (not market).

DeVoges said:
Any reason my phone didn't alert me when the update was available? It had always done that before with other updates (not market).
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Where do u live it goes by sections I think it started on the west coast I never got it do to the fact I was on dk28 but my wife got it the second day and I'm from san diego
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[Q] Gingerbread 2.3.4

hello all, this past weekend I found gingerbread 2.3.4 at samfirmware and put it on my wife's Epic but I don't think she is really happy with it, so she ask if I could put the EC 05 back on is there a way to do this? And if so once sprint sends out the gingerbread update OTA will her phone be able to get it?

Yes, you would need to use Odin to install EC05 back on your Epic. In the Development thread, there is a thread with the instructions and downloads to do it.

Thank you, is there a link to the page

cerberus60 said:
Thank you, is there a link to the page
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It's one of the first 3-5 threads, as it's stickied. Talks about fixing a bricked phone or something like that.
Go to the development section of the Epic 4G and you'll find what you need with links, videos, screen shots, all the goods.
Before embarking on this Odin journey though, I would suggest getting a better USB cable than the one that came with your phone. It sucks.
EDIT: Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813

Many thanks my friend.

Don't forget to back up anything you don't want to lose.