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So what is creating the lag on the magic?is it a hardware limitation or is the android os to blame,and why it will run ok for few days and then start to slow down?i am out on the road for work alot and i do realy use my magic alot for surfing the net ,watching movies,and so on and it get frustating when the softkeyboard start to slow down like now wile im writing in this post.
If is software related i hope google will resolve the problems soon at the next update,i realy hate when the browser does not scroll up or down the page smootly to.
You have to reboot the phone once a day. Its like this for almost all smart phones. I had too do it to my Iphone twice a day sometimes. There is also a program in the market called taskiller, I suggest getting it. The program can free up 20m in 2 sec.
What im asking is the reason why the lag appear.bad coding of android os?apps r not build properly?
Hard to tell, I noticed that some apps are bad, when I cleaned up some of my market apps and removed them, I stopped getting the slow down near as often. I take it some of those apps had memory leaks. I actually sped up when I removed task killer, I'm not making accusations, but the version I was running might have had problems of it's own.
I will take exception to the idea that phones have to be rebooted all the time, they shouldn't. WinMo I had to reboot twice a day at times, but the Iphone...I rarely rebooted, and I would go six months or more without a blackberry reboot (usually only to flash to a new rom).
Hard to say without some really good diagnostic time whether the memory is leaking from apps or core OS processes. If it was obvious, the android developers would have already fixed them (and some probably are in upcoming revisions). That being said, Android will get there with a little time. I wouldn't go back to the iphone unless there is a major change in the way it operates, and I would only switch to blackberry if they drastically improved their Storm. The openness of Android and above all the notifications system on Android trump its rough edges. Now if only copy and paste.........
Ho well i hope google is going to sort it out soon.
My friend just upgrade to the new iphone and i must say that is very quick,speedyyyyyyy.
Is android os full accesible by the devs or there are part of it that only google have right to?
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Ho well i hope google is going to sort it out soon.
My friend just upgrade to the new iphone and i must say that is very quick,speedyyyyyyy.
Is android os full accesible by the devs or there are part of it that only google have right to?
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Don't worry the new iphone has the same issue, has to reboot every day or so once it's all loaded up with apps and cache. My brother has the new one and it's on par with the Magic for speed but you have to remember it's only a "one show pony".
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Its on par?? By the look of it is not near up to the speed of the iphone.
So are parts of the os that devs on this forum cannot acces?
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Its on par?? By the look of it is not near up to the speed of the iphone.
So are parts of the os that devs on this forum cannot acces?
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Which magic are you using? My Rogers 32A magic is at least as fast if not faster in some things than the 3GS. I had both here testing and they are equal in alot of things. But the Magic can multitask where the iphone can run one app.
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I see a lot of phones through the course of a day and i can tell you ALL smartphones eventualy end up with lag. The more they can do, the more likely they will slow down. Even your laptop, desktop, car, and body will slow down with time and use. We demand more features, power, battery life, colors, channels, options, etc..... We had none of this twenty years ago. Does anyone remember their Commadore 64? Keep your perspective. 99% of the tech we use today came about in the last 35 to 45 years. We get angry because we have to wait 3 seconds to find out our latitude and longitude because were looking for a starbucks. If you want it to run better, turn it off and do without it for a day. You'll not complain about minimal lag for a few days after that.
Sorry for the rant folks....
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I see a lot of phones through the course of a day and i can tell you ALL smartphones eventualy end up with lag. The more they can do, the more likely they will slow down. Even your laptop, desktop, car, and body will slow down with time and use. We demand more features, power, battery life, colors, channels, options, etc..... We had none of this twenty years ago. Does anyone remember their Commadore 64? Keep your perspective. 99% of the tech we use today came about in the last 35 to 45 years. We get angry because we have to wait 3 seconds to find out our latitude and longitude because were looking for a starbucks. If you want it to run better, turn it off and do without it for a day. You'll not complain about minimal lag for a few days after that.
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You're so right Serious!
Yes i do agree to.
I wanted only to know what would cause the lag,thats all.
Understandable. We would not have gotten this far if we had never tried to work out the details and make them better. I suppose it's a double edged sword. By the time we perfect one device we are off to another. Until we do though, the daily reboot is our best freind. Hope I did not sound like I was comming down on you.
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Yes i do agree to.
I wanted only to know what would cause the lag,thats all.
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I think this is a valid and important question. I just bought the tmobile mt3g and the keyboard lag, when web browsing, is the single most annoying issue. Is this a hardware limitation, or something that we can expect to improve as the software is refined?
I've been googling around trying to find an answer to this but it seems like most threads are concerned with "features lists" rather than "user experience". It makes sense. It's a lot harder to quantify the latter, but we still should try, especially since this is the axis where the open platform model might be inferior to the proprietary one (apple/palm). I mean, I'm pretty sure android is going to have a better feature list within the year (if not already). The real unknown is whether it will be a fast, integrated, polished user experience.
Maybe one of the gurus on this list can given an enlightened opinion. My guess is that it's mostly a software issue. The keyboard works a lot faster in SMS or gmail than in the browser. There really isn't an excuse for this other than lazy software. All the javascript is taking up cycles that the keyboard needs to be snappy perhaps?
can someone answer my question please:
Is android os full accesible by the devs or there are part of it that only google have right to?
If I am not mistaken, the max CPU frequncy is set to 385 MHz instead of the 528 it is capable of on a stock rom. Underclocking can save battery life, and that is one on the major complaints I see about the newer phones. More speed means less battery life. If you want to get the most out of the MyTouch your best bet is to root the phone and set your max speed to the 528 level using SetCPU or a similar program. The phone is very capable of doing more than what you see out of the box. You just need to work on it. We are here because we are not the general public that likes to just "leave it as it is". Root it, get one of Cyanogen's (my favorite) or some one elses roms, and SetCPU. you will be impressed.
I got root and runing cyan roms.
It seems that many people dont get the question that im asking. Maybe my english is not great and seems that anyone is trying to jump in the same vagon defending android without realise i m not trashing it .
Some of the answers i do think are unrelated to my question ,so maybe is me that is not clear.?
So you have lag on Cyanogen's rom? Which rom is it? Do you have a lot of apps installed? Have you tried SetCPU? I have a two MyTouch running Cyan's 4.0.1, SetCPU has me running at 528 max, 328 min. i do not have any lag on my keyboard or any of my apps. I reboot once a day but have never realy needed to. Post what you have going and I will do my best to help you out.
Sorry. You are right. I did forget about the original question. "why does lag apear in the first place". I don't have a lot of specifics for you, but I can tell you that phones are manufactured for the "general" public. Build it, get it out, and don't support it properly is what I see. I work for a U.S. service provider and I spend my day trying to get people to speak up. I do what I can to help everyone but I aint no jeanus if you get my meaning. If we demand more we will get more. And yet people keep on buying devices mearly because they are the "in" thing. Remember the rule of "supply and demand"? If we buy it and dont ask questions, they will take the money and run. Damn I am being a radical. It is true though. If we don't give them hell, they will just keep doing the same thing.
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So you have lag on Cyanogen's rom? Which rom is it? Do you have a lot of apps installed? Have you tried SetCPU? I have a two MyTouch running Cyan's 4.0.1, SetCPU has me running at 528 max, 328 min. i do not have any lag on my keyboard or any of my apps. I reboot once a day but have never realy needed to. Post what you have going and I will do my best to help you out.
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Im on cyan 4.1
VODAFONE UK MAGIC
32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT 1.33.0004 SAPP10000
CPLD-10
RADIO 2.22.19.26I
APR 9 2009
Formated card using recovery to 3 partitions,fat32-ext3-swap
Running 4x rss withgets plus Weather widget,about 10 apps installed.
Same lag with previus cyan wersion exspecialy when closing browser wile goung back to home screen.
Thanx
I have had the Vibrant for about a week, and love it dearly despite its shortcomings. I have noticed the data speeds and connectivity are in no way related to the amount of bars of service showing, except when it drops to EDGE (which it seems to do an seemingly random times).
I ran the Speedtest.net app about 20 times in different settings, many one right after another without holding the phone. The speeds fluctuate so wildly I can't describe it.
Sometimes I get DL speeds of 100kbs and upload speeds of over 2mbs in the same test, and everywhere in between.
The Nexus one fluctuates a little bit, but no where near this. N1 is on CM6.
This sucks because sometimes for example I'll click the news widgets story, and the webpage will not load even with full 3g service.
And yes, I can stop the speedtest completely by covering the antennae bump with my finger.
Any Ideas?
I also suffer from very spotty GPS functionality, even after the fix. I am not able to root this phone the standard way, tried over 20 times to restart holding VOL up and down, never gets to recovery mode - have not tried adb yet. (I'm at work lol)
Have you done a factory reset on the Vibrant? You should if you haven't. Might solve this too but there is something you have to understand, bandwidth is shared on every tower. If 2 phones are downloading a 1GB file EVERYONE's speed will suffer on that tower. So make sure you're not doing them at the same time because it's not going to be accurate if you are doing them at the same time
Hmm interesting, and thanks for the response. I don't think two phones downloading a file at the same time should make a huge difference, I am in downtown New York City.
I usually kill all processes on an hourly basis usually to prevent lag. Should I not?
System restore from the recovery menu you mean?
I only did two concurrent tests on the N1 and my Vibrant - all others were done by itself.
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Have you done a factory reset on the Vibrant?
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i see this alot, i got my vibrant and rooteded but never done a factory reset... Im not having any issues, is there a reason i should look into this?
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i see this alot, i got my vibrant and rooteded but never done a factory reset... Im not having any issues, is there a reason i should look into this?
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I factory reset every new phone. Just because.. been doing it since windows mobile... any problems factory reset helps so I just start from a factory reset. ...
Do you recommend a backup first? Like Titanium if I was rooted?
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Might solve this too but there is something you have to understand, bandwidth is shared on every tower. If 2 phones are downloading a 1GB file EVERYONE's speed will suffer on that tower. So make sure you're not doing them at the same time because it's not going to be accurate if you're doing them at different times.
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Umm, not necessarily. We don't know how big the internet pipeline for each tower is. The way GSM works though, is each tower only has a specific number of slots for phones that can be connected at one time. Kinda lile a QOS type thing. So each phone sorta has a dedicated pipeline while it's connected. That's just on the GSM switchboard, though. As far as I know the internet pipeline is shared. I'm not saying one way or another on speeds slowing when more people are online, just saying "don't jump to conclusions". Because if they engineered the internet pipeline the same way they engineered the GSM switchboard, then each phone might have it's own dedicated pipeline. Just saying.
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Just did a factory reset, seems speedier already.
I used mIQ to sync because I wasnt able to root the phone for Titanium. Will report back.
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Umm, not necessarily. We don't know how big the internet pipeline for each tower is. The way GSM works though, is each tower only has a specific number of slots for phones that can be connected at one time. Kinda lile a QOS type thing. So each phone sorta has a dedicated pipeline while it's connected. That's just on the GSM switchboard, though. As far as I know the internet pipeline is shared. I'm not saying one way or another on speeds slowing when more people are online, just saying "don't jump to conclusions". Because if they engineered the internet pipeline the same way they engineered the GSM switchboard, then each phone might have it's own dedicated pipeline. Just saying.
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3G is not GSM. Bandwidth on each and EVERY tower is a shared media. I know because I've done it myself. Two phones pitted against each other would always leave one phone slower than the other.
Also there is the possibility that the phones are each on a different tower.
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3G is not GSM. Bandwidth on each and EVERY tower is a shared media. I know because I've done it myself. Two phones pitted against each other would always leave one phone slower than the other.
Also there is the possibility that the phones are each on a different tower.
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True, 3G is a CDMA technology but I really doubt the pipeline is so small that two phones running a test would cause it to slow down. A more likely explanation would be that the radios in the two devices were interfering with each other, and suffered a slower data speed due to lower SNR.
unrelated to this, how do you guys get your speed test results to show on your signature?
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I factory reset every new phone. Just because.. been doing it since windows mobile... any problems factory reset helps so I just start from a factory reset. ...
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just learned that myself, for some reason my pinch to zoom was not smooth at all when loading certain websites it would be very choppy and such until I did a factory reset, now everything works perfectly. Also I think having a task killer is a must on this phone at times I can have 36 apps running at a time which makes for a laggy phone. I thought these phones had better self management systems. Guess not!
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unrelated to this, how do you guys get your speed test results to show on your signature?
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Get the image of the speedtest result then [ img] picture link [ /img] ?
To get the image: Do a speedtest.. click Direct link when its done and bam.
But most likely since its T-MOBILE USA as the ISP.. they most likely tethered and did a speedtest on speedtest.net
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unrelated to this, how do you guys get your speed test results to show on your signature?
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When you complete a test at Speedtest.net, it gives you a link to a picture of your results to post on forums and such.
PePPaZ said:
I have had the Vibrant for about a week, and love it dearly despite its shortcomings. I have noticed the data speeds and connectivity are in no way related to the amount of bars of service showing, except when it drops to EDGE (which it seems to do an seemingly random times).
I ran the Speedtest.net app about 20 times in different settings, many one right after another without holding the phone. The speeds fluctuate so wildly I can't describe it.
Sometimes I get DL speeds of 100kbs and upload speeds of over 2mbs in the same test, and everywhere in between.
The Nexus one fluctuates a little bit, but no where near this. N1 is on CM6.
This sucks because sometimes for example I'll click the news widgets story, and the webpage will not load even with full 3g service.
And yes, I can stop the speedtest completely by covering the antennae bump with my finger.
Any Ideas?
I also suffer from very spotty GPS functionality, even after the fix. I am not able to root this phone the standard way, tried over 20 times to restart holding VOL up and down, never gets to recovery mode - have not tried adb yet. (I'm at work lol)
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Thanks for sharing.
I will say though that speedtest.net is not very accurate and very buggy. I've experienced some of the same issues as you and have been using speedtest.net for a very long time.
I'm curious to know what the most accurate speed test site is out there.
Try: www.MobileSpeedTest.com
When doing the test, let the initial test finish, but scroll down and click on 2MB test to test it again. That should give you a pretty accurate result.
so there is no way to do it from the app itself?
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so there is no way to do it from the app itself?
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Not that I know of. I looked for that option but couldn't find it.
i keep getting a "Missing Liscense Key" error at speedtest.net.
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so there is no way to do it from the app itself?
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Could do a speedtest on the phone and take a screenshot of it on the phone if you REALLY REALLY wanted it but it wouldn't look very official lol.
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so there is no way to do it from the app itself?
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yes, go to the results tab then go to the specific test you want the results to. Then hit the menu button and click "email results", it will send you the same picture that the "direct link" would give you.
My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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I have a Verizon Tab and am experiencing very slow performance on my device. I'm experiencing very slow transitions between homescreens and application screens list-pages, touch screen unresponsiveness, media scanner takes like 15 minutes on SD card(its not SD card as I took it out).When I first got it, it was as everyone else described it as being with a few hiccups sometimes, but nothing like I am experiencing now.
I did a soft reset and even a hard reset. Installed OCLF and uninstalled it as it made no difference in my situation. Wondering if I could flash an original firmware or a different firmware to see if that fixes the problem. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Kinda weird,I got tired of trying to fix my tab and charged it up and turned it off and put it back in the box and didn't plan on messing with it until there was some custom roms(had to enjoy my thanksgiving) as I couldn't sell it like it is. So, today I decided to turn it on and it's back to its normal speed but battery was at 0% for some reason(odd as I charged it to about 87%) .
I think something went wrong with my nand/install or something as whenever I'd boot up it ask me what language I prefer(eng or espanol...no hablo espanol) and I'd select english then it would just go to the home screen(but it's suppose to ask you for your gmail account and so fourth) from there and sluggishness would ensue. I also have verizon service/3g now for some reason(I don't have a plan for them).
There's one thing though, a few buttons(home, search, menu) don't work as they didn't work before but the back button does. I am not too worried about that as I know it's not hardware related because they work in recovery but... and the notification bar is unresponsive. lol
I didn't like the response time of the home screen when I got my Sprint SGT so I replaced it with LauncherPro from the market. It is so much smoother now by my perception.
Not sure about your overall slowness but you might want to give that a try.
Also, I have heard that the Verizon version of the SGT is bloatware city. I can't confirm since I have a Sprint model but just relaying what I have read.
Yeah, I tried launcher pro before and still get the same type of lag.
I'd try rooting and removing the bloatware, or freezing them if you have titanium pro. Freezing will leave them installed so you won't miss any ota updates.
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You know, I love this thing and overall its on par with speed on my incredible but the quadrant score is ****. My device got about 1000 when my phone gets 1400. dunno what Samsung did to this thing lol.
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Is there anyway to format my internal SD card?
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You know, I love this thing and overall its on par with speed on my incredible but the quadrant score is ****. My device got about 1000 when my phone gets 1400. dunno what Samsung did to this thing lol.
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That's because Quadrant is a rubbish benchmark. You can OCLF and see a massive jump in Quadrant, but it won't actually make the Tab any faster in the real world IMO.
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This was exactly why I took my Verizon tab back and got a Sprint one instead.
I would try a factory reset, then de-bloat though, who knows what wonders it may have.
I would not really recommend the OCLF, that's just my personal opinion though, others may suggest otherwise.
I do stand behind Launcher Pro. I love it
Been thinking about the Galaxy tab the last week or so. So yesterday went over to Carphone Warehouse to have a play with one. I was particularly interested to find out about the flash in browser performance which I have heard isn't so flash.
I have a HD2 with MDeejay Desire HD Android ROM running on it and flash on it is very smooth.
I have to say the Galaxy Tab seemed a bit more sluggish and just seemed that bit more cumbersome to navigate around.
Anyone else have a Desire HD and Galaxy tab and tell us their thoughts.
The android system is all about user imput. Its rough and it supports a whole load of chipsets but it needs a little cunning to get going. And, for now, it simply cannot be as fast as ios or windows 7.
Its all about cool cheap stuff. And sticking it to apple!
But for me this is a sign of conceptual maturity... it is a risk happy system that believes its on the way to glory.
I like that
Kinda weird,I got tired of trying to fix my tab and charged it up and turned it off and put it back in the box and didn't plan on messing with it until there was some custom roms(had to enjoy my thanksgiving) as I couldn't sell it like it is. So, today I decided to turn it on and it's back to its normal speed but battery was at 0% for some reason(odd as I charged it to about 87%) .
I think something went wrong with my nand/install or something as whenever I'd boot up it ask me what language I prefer(eng or espanol...no hablo espanol) and I'd select english then it would just go to the home screen(but it's suppose to ask you for your gmail account and so fourth) from there and sluggishness would ensue. I also have verizon service/3g now for some reason(I don't have a plan for them).
There's one though, a few buttons(home, search, menu) don't work as before but the back button does. I am not too worried about that as I know it's not hardware related because they work in recovery but...
konawayne said:
Is there anyway to format my internal SD card?
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would like to know this as well
you should be able to do this through windows - connect usb, mount, then use the windows formatting tool with fat32
foxmeister said:
That's because Quadrant is a rubbish benchmark. You can OCLF and see a massive jump in Quadrant, but it won't actually make the Tab any faster in the real world IMO.
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Dave
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Except, you know, when it's lagging.
Looks like the Nexus 9 far surpasses all other tablets in performance.
http://www.androidbenchmark.net/passmark_chart.html
Amazing how much of a difference there is. While the Nexus currently scores an average of 8152, the Samsung Galaxy S line of tablets score around 5500. The Nexus 10 and Nexus 6 both score around 4000. The original Kindle Fire, which was my last device, scores just 1400.
EDIT: The Nexus 9 is also the fastest device on Antutu.
Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
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andyahs said:
Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
Sent from my Nexus 9
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Constant reboots? I haven't had one thus far. Have you tried updating and factory resetting?
Not one reboot here. Gmail and chrome have been flawless here.
andyahs said:
Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
Sent from my Nexus 9
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Haven't had any reboots.
No freezes or reboots here either but then I'm running 100% stock right now.
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My Nexus 9 hasn't arrived yet, but a 4:1 ratio of good experiences and bad experiences seems safe enough
I haven't had any problems with Chrome or Gmail either. No reboots.
Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.
di11igaf said:
Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.
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couple of cats on this forum stated their devices were lagging. a factory reset fixed their issues, so perhaps you should give that a try...
Lol
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marctronixx said:
couple of cats on this forum stated their devices were lagging. a factory reset fixed their issues, so perhaps you should give that a try...
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This tablet has been factory reset probably 20 times between trying all the kernels and a few of my own, resetting is just a temporary fix. Factory resetting isn't doing anything special. Its just clearing cache and ram giving a temp fix. When the tablet heats back up starts throttling and ram starts filling up, the same issues come back every time. Trust me, I wish it was that easy. I really want to like this thing.
I have no idea what people do on/with their tablets to cause these so called issues but I don't get any of those problems with mine. Perhaps if people stopped effing around with them then they would work as expected. Just saying........
dinocgeo said:
I have no idea what people do on/with their tablets to cause these so called issues but I don't get any of those problems with mine. Perhaps if people stopped effing around with them then they would work as expected. Just saying........
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So, your tabs don't reload, you home screen never redraws, get good battery life when web browsing, no heat when browsing and no lag?
I 'eff' with things to get rid of these issues.
You're on xda-DEVELOPERS for [email protected]#k sake, and you're suggesting we stop 'effing' with our devices?
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So, your tabs don't reload, you home screen never redraws, get good battery life when web browsing, no heat when browsing and no lag?
I 'eff' with things to get rid of these issues.
You're on xda-DEVELOPERS for [email protected]#k sake, and you're suggesting we stop 'effing' with our devices?
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Browsing is no prob with Chrome. Yeah it gets a little warm, depending on what I'm using it for, but no warmer than any other tablet I've had. No issues with home screen or lag.
richii0207 said:
Constant reboots? I haven't had one thus far. Have you tried updating and factory resetting?
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No problems here, either. Could be specific app issues?
di11igaf said:
Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.
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Sounds like you got the bad end of the silicon lottery
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Sounds like you got the bad end of the silicon lottery
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3 tablets 3 times? Doubt it. I don't think this should be news to people. I will say this though- being slow at opening some apps happens all the time. My nexus 5 is always faster than the 9.
The lag OTOH, only gets really bad proportional to heat. While browsing earlier the CPU got to over 140°(F) in a relatively short period, and that is when it turns in to a lagging turtle of a tablet. I have not looked at any of the thermal cut offs in source, but it didn't seem to be going past 1500 MHz.
Add to this not much free ram, which happens all the time on this tablet, it becomes a nightmare.
But, I either get pissed and return , or I get pissed and want to help. So I cloned the source get it compiling now I have a few things I wanna try. One seems to be at forefront as soon as I have so me patches in my treeq may I'll give it a whirl.
Gotta get back accustomed to git its been a while.
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3 tablets 3 times? Doubt it. I don't think this should be news to people. I will say this though- being slow at opening some apps happens all the time. My nexus 5 is always faster than the 9.
The lag OTOH, only gets really bad proportional to heat. While browsing earlier the CPU got to over 140° in a relatively short period, and that is when it turns in to a lagging turtle of a tablet. I have not looked at any of the thermal cut offs in source, but it didn't seem to be going past 1500 MHz.
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Whoa, this is Farenheit right? It would really help if people clarified this, because at lower temperatures, you can't really tell which it is.
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Whoa, this is Farenheit right? It would really help if people clarified this, because at lower temperatures, you can't really tell which it is.
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Yes my bad, this was °F