Nexus 9 is #1 on Passmark - Nexus 9 General

Looks like the Nexus 9 far surpasses all other tablets in performance.
http://www.androidbenchmark.net/passmark_chart.html
Amazing how much of a difference there is. While the Nexus currently scores an average of 8152, the Samsung Galaxy S line of tablets score around 5500. The Nexus 10 and Nexus 6 both score around 4000. The original Kindle Fire, which was my last device, scores just 1400.
EDIT: The Nexus 9 is also the fastest device on Antutu.

Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
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andyahs said:
Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
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Constant reboots? I haven't had one thus far. Have you tried updating and factory resetting?

Not one reboot here. Gmail and chrome have been flawless here.

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Yet constant reboots and freezing apps like chrome and gmail make it frustrating to use.
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Haven't had any reboots.

No freezes or reboots here either but then I'm running 100% stock right now.
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My Nexus 9 hasn't arrived yet, but a 4:1 ratio of good experiences and bad experiences seems safe enough

I haven't had any problems with Chrome or Gmail either. No reboots.

Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.

di11igaf said:
Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.
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couple of cats on this forum stated their devices were lagging. a factory reset fixed their issues, so perhaps you should give that a try...

Lol
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marctronixx said:
couple of cats on this forum stated their devices were lagging. a factory reset fixed their issues, so perhaps you should give that a try...
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This tablet has been factory reset probably 20 times between trying all the kernels and a few of my own, resetting is just a temporary fix. Factory resetting isn't doing anything special. Its just clearing cache and ram giving a temp fix. When the tablet heats back up starts throttling and ram starts filling up, the same issues come back every time. Trust me, I wish it was that easy. I really want to like this thing.

I have no idea what people do on/with their tablets to cause these so called issues but I don't get any of those problems with mine. Perhaps if people stopped effing around with them then they would work as expected. Just saying........

dinocgeo said:
I have no idea what people do on/with their tablets to cause these so called issues but I don't get any of those problems with mine. Perhaps if people stopped effing around with them then they would work as expected. Just saying........
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So, your tabs don't reload, you home screen never redraws, get good battery life when web browsing, no heat when browsing and no lag?
I 'eff' with things to get rid of these issues.
You're on xda-DEVELOPERS for [email protected]#k sake, and you're suggesting we stop 'effing' with our devices?

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So, your tabs don't reload, you home screen never redraws, get good battery life when web browsing, no heat when browsing and no lag?
I 'eff' with things to get rid of these issues.
You're on xda-DEVELOPERS for [email protected]#k sake, and you're suggesting we stop 'effing' with our devices?
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Browsing is no prob with Chrome. Yeah it gets a little warm, depending on what I'm using it for, but no warmer than any other tablet I've had. No issues with home screen or lag.

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Constant reboots? I haven't had one thus far. Have you tried updating and factory resetting?
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No problems here, either. Could be specific app issues?

di11igaf said:
Too bad it doesn't perform like it scores. Side by side with my nexus 5, the 5 does EVERYTHING faster. The n9 is not only slower, it lags like [email protected]#+ing android cupcake.
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Sounds like you got the bad end of the silicon lottery

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Sounds like you got the bad end of the silicon lottery
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3 tablets 3 times? Doubt it. I don't think this should be news to people. I will say this though- being slow at opening some apps happens all the time. My nexus 5 is always faster than the 9.
The lag OTOH, only gets really bad proportional to heat. While browsing earlier the CPU got to over 140°(F) in a relatively short period, and that is when it turns in to a lagging turtle of a tablet. I have not looked at any of the thermal cut offs in source, but it didn't seem to be going past 1500 MHz.
Add to this not much free ram, which happens all the time on this tablet, it becomes a nightmare.
But, I either get pissed and return , or I get pissed and want to help. So I cloned the source get it compiling now I have a few things I wanna try. One seems to be at forefront as soon as I have so me patches in my treeq may I'll give it a whirl.
Gotta get back accustomed to git its been a while.

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3 tablets 3 times? Doubt it. I don't think this should be news to people. I will say this though- being slow at opening some apps happens all the time. My nexus 5 is always faster than the 9.
The lag OTOH, only gets really bad proportional to heat. While browsing earlier the CPU got to over 140° in a relatively short period, and that is when it turns in to a lagging turtle of a tablet. I have not looked at any of the thermal cut offs in source, but it didn't seem to be going past 1500 MHz.
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Whoa, this is Farenheit right? It would really help if people clarified this, because at lower temperatures, you can't really tell which it is.

jji7skyline said:
Whoa, this is Farenheit right? It would really help if people clarified this, because at lower temperatures, you can't really tell which it is.
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Yes my bad, this was °F

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SGS 3 days on......

Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem, however have been using advanced task manager and it seems to help. I know rooting is supposed to be better with autokiller, but I believe rooting invalidates your warranty? Also, when I reboot my phone I have about 150mb free, but after a days use using adv task man I only have 55ish.
Anyhow in all I am happy with the phone, just need to work on the gps and lag.
Btw, how do I figure out my firmware number?
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in settings, about, and somewhere down the line.
You should be really restrictive when killing processes. Use the ignorelist for just about everything that might be used somehow by something.
Example, start the camera and it can take 2 - 4 sec to be ready to shoot. Have it idling in the background and its up in a split second. This goes for everything.
The onlu thing I kill is games, market and some other useless stuff i tend to run sometimes. Remember: you dont need a lot of free memory, for a quick phone you need your often-used-apps idling and loaded in mem.
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Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem
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Similar to my imrpessions in the first days. Screen is outstanding, the only reason I keep wanting to keep the phone. Swype is nice but didn't get used to it.. still type faster on my Nokia E72...but that is a matter of practicing.
GPS.. *sigh*. No comments. It is useless.
Also the lag was annoying but I won't complain much on that since I never tried any of the unofficial fixes.... still, out of the box it is a problem, definitely something Samsung didn't polish well enough.
Plenty of lag and memory fixes available.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
yeah theres a decent amount of lag out of the box, but TONS of fixes available
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
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yeah come on !! what lag ?? I didn't see any thread talking about lag, any video .. nothing
There are lag fix but it is not to fix the lag ... as it doens't exist
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The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
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Yes. Buy it (ultimate Juice). You won't be let down.
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
Sure. There are lag fixes. And you can always buy an external GPS unit for only 150€ or so.
I just have the nasty habit of presuming I won't need to fix anything right after unpackaging and booting or pay more after spitting out 599€ for a "cutting edge" smartphone.
Customers... always so ungrateful and never pleased. /spit.
Pika007 said:
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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It also varies based on your applications though. With some applications running, phone can't sleep properly.
Pika007 said:
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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I really hope your right, as mine is still not great tbh.
I will try ultimate juice to see if that helps..
Should I be doing anything in specific in the charge cycles? i.e letting it fully discharge, or anything else?
Ref Lag;
I did experience it out of the box, but only after using lots of multiple apps. I found that task killer fixed the problem, and I have not tried any other fixes.
However I still cant understand my RAM usage.
150MB free on boot, which then decreases to 130MB after say an hour.
2+ Hours later I am down into the 90's...and after 8+ hours into the 60's.
This is using task killer regular enough...so not sure why it happens.
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
Mine could sometimes take up to 10 seconds to open the phone app on the stock rom. Very annoying. Especially when there's an incoming call and you can't answer because the answer key just won't show up. Now I'm running the jg5 rom and samset 1.6 rom. And everything is lightning fast now. Faster than my iphone 4.
Using the Galaxy S as well for a while now. The phone is AWESOME. After the lagfix this is the best android device I ever messed with. I thought I would want to change the launcher but after getting used to the iPhone like design, touchwiz is actually one of the best skins I have seen. Rotates both ways, you can change the order of the homescreens easily and you can have as many as you want up to 7. It offers some cool widgets just like Sense does and the menu can be all reorganized and not be mixed up by alphabetical order. Even the built in keyboard is awesome for me. Fits with the rest of the design and its multitouch enabled. And you have Swype preinstalled if you want that as well. The camera is awesome and despite the lack of flash you can still take some really decent pics with this if there is some light around.
The screen is just on the sweet spot. 4" with Super AMOLED. Im in heaven really lol.
Even my mum that is a complete iPhone addict is now surrendered to this phone capabilities. Nice job by samsung and obviously by the genius who developed the lagfix and 1 click root.
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So i just got my galaxy s and there doesnt seem to be any lag at the mo.
Why is my baseband 19000nejg1?
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
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It's worth noting though that Beowulf_pt complained that reports of poor GPS and lag were the things holding him back from purchasing this phone (so I'm honestly wondering why he purchased the phone in the first place). Especially since purchasing it every post he has made seems to have been complaints about the GPS..
The Lag exists, but it doesn't make the phone unusable. Agreed it could be better, but whether it really affects anyone is questionable. It may be mostly fixable by switching scheduler and caching better. Remember, phones such as the Nexus one might be better currently, but they also shipped with a deluge of problems which are now fixed too.. Even the iPhone 4 did..
The GPS does have obvious issues (the accuracy indicator is still wrong, which to me suggests software), but other than the GPS, I am still happy with the phone. Also remember the battery issues depend on what you are running (some apps don't let the phone sleep properly).
I'm still happy to give them until Froyo to fix it. If Samsung doesn't fix it properly by then (and instead does something silly like tell us the "signal strength indicators are wrong"), then I'll try to get a refund. But at the moment, I'm willing to give them a chance.
It is surprising to read people who have no gps problems or lag issues straight out of the box, either they are very lucky and have bought fully functionaly sgs or are quite used to devices which take awhile to respond (I think it is the latter)!
Certainly there are fixes out there to improve the gps and lag issues but none have completely resolved the problem. I'm using JM5 which is working brilliantly and gps seems to work quite accurately especiallywith co-pilot no-other fix has been applied (to scared to!), the lag has also improved significantly but it does occassionaly freeze.
I'm also willing to give the boys at sammy a chance till 2.2 version is out or till Desire HD is launched, which ever comes first. Till then this is the best device out there inmho.
I too didn't notice any lag, until I installed the fixes, then the lag was noticeable as the phone was MUCH smoother.

Xoom lag issues

Anyone else have lag issues when unlocked, rooted, with oc'd kernel installed running at any speed. I mostly notice when coming out of standby mode. Text input on web pages is considerably slow, also loading of web pages. When opening apps it doesn't seem to be affected other than movie playback. Any feedback would be appreciated.....
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Oh one other thing....when I first installed OC it was running like wildfire, the longer I'm running it the worse it is getting. Yes the cache was cleared, any other ideas?
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Same issue here, not sure of any fix though.
this happens to me too but it never lastes more than a min or two.
hmmm i havent noticed this at all. have been overclocked for a little over 2 weeks with only a couple restarts due to theme installs
i mean it isn't something that is super noticable for me but sometimes my keyboard lags for a couple mins but then it gets back to normal. i mean it is expected when you have a device that still hasn't had its "official full" update lol.
This makes my Captivate feel like butter. Apple has nothing to worry about.
Its disappointing, to say the least.
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This makes my Captivate feel like butter. Apple has nothing to worry about.
Its disappointing, to say the least.
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Yeah, but compare this experience with stock on the Captivate (cause it's not even close to Serendipity), and that's a whole different comparison
It took a while for good, stable kernels to come out for the Captivate as well. Hopefully Google changes their mind about the source code once the rest of these tablets start coming out, and then we might get some of your fantastic meals for the Xoom too!
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Yeah, but compare this experience with stock on the Captivate (cause it's not even close to Serendipity), and that's a whole different comparison
It took a while for good, stable kernels to come out for the Captivate as well. Hopefully Google changes their mind about the source code once the rest of these tablets start coming out, and then we might get some of your fantastic meals for the Xoom too!
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No kidding. Flash back to stock Eclair on the Captivate to turbo charge your Xoom.
If you are running performance mode with setcpu and have a min freq above 250, the CPU will drop to 250 when you turn screen off and not go above it.
Simple fix is to keep setcpu on "on demand", but you can also keep it on performance and manually bump the freq up by going into setcpu every time you turn the screen on.
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Yea, the only time i lags for me is when i am scrolling via browser or something with a lot of texts / graphics. I would assume a dual 1Ghz would be more smooth than this.
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No kidding. Flash back to stock Eclair on the Captivate to turbo charge your Xoom.
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I'd say that the Xoom is as bad as stock Eclair was.
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I'd say that the Xoom is as bad as stock Eclair was.
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You have something wrong then. I do not have that experience. In fact, if I try to do some intense things like video recording using your Captivate ROM, my phone chokes where my Xoom does not. Granted, the Xoom does lag for me with certain things, mostly certain web sites in the browser including this site, the overall responsiveness has been just as good or better than my Captivate with your ROM.
Perhaps you should be more specific on what you have installed, how your screens are configured, what widgets you are using, etc. so maybe the culprit can be identified. Are you full stock with nothing installed and experiencing this?
I disagree. You have a bad unit or your doing something wrong. Back off the bashing.
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I'd say that the Xoom is as bad as stock Eclair was.
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im not rooted and i still get lag
androidlurker said:
If you are running performance mode with setcpu and have a min freq above 250, the CPU will drop to 250 when you turn screen off and not go above it.
Simple fix is to keep setcpu on "on demand", but you can also keep it on performance and manually bump the freq up by going into setcpu every time you turn the screen on.
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This is true. When i had it set to performance i noticed significant lag. When i changed it to on demand it became much smoother.
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GS3 vs N4 multitasking

A quick question for you lucky people who have got your N4s:
What's the multitasking like? I'm hoping it must be flawless with 2gigs of RAM?
Can someone who has GTA3 tell me if you can pick up exactly where you left off, if you've gone out of the game to do other things for a while? On my current phone GS3, it has the annoying habit of kicking me back to the beginning of the last mission I started if I leave the game for any reason. Is this a RAM limitation on my phone, or does GTA3 do this on all phones?
EDIT: I should mention I'm using the international GS3 i9300, that only has 1GB RAM.
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A quick question for you lucky people who have got your N4s:
What's the multitasking like? I'm hoping it must be flawless with 2gigs of RAM?
Can someone who has GTA3 tell me if you can pick up exactly where you left off, if you've gone out of the game to do other things for a while? On my current phone GS3, it has the annoying habit of kicking me back to the beginning of the last mission I started if I leave the game for any reason. Is this a RAM limitatio on my phone, or does GTA3 do this on all phones?
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Flawless
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Flawless
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Without a doubt... Flawless.
Multi tasking/over all experience is orgasmic.
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My biggest problem with my older phones was that they would constantly close out the apps that I needed to stay open like contacts, messaging, phone. It annoyed me that my old clam shell phones would instantly open contacts and my G2 couldn't open then faster than 4 seconds or so. This thing leaves all those open and they all open instantaneously.
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Flawless x2. Seriously, apps stay in memory for a considerably greater amount of time than my Atrix 2, and obviously longer than my Captivate. It makes switching to almost anything smooth and snappy.
Flawless.
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What the other guys said - it is really great. No app loses it status, even if you have open quite a few of them. Switching between apps is absolutely fluent, no hiccups no waiting, nothing!
This should set the expectations of every Android phone.... Stock Android.
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This should set the expectations of every Android phone.... Stock Android.
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To be honest with you, multitasking has completely amazed me on the N4. On the Gnex, apps would close right away. With the N4, I go back to the browser at the end of the day, and the page I loaded hours earlier is still in memory In fact, I have yet to see my phone go below 950mb RAM remaining. I really think 2gb was overkill (1.5 would've easily done the job), but hey, I'm not complaining Also, keep in mind that I don't use any widgets at all, and I have very few things running in the background aside from Skype, so others may have a different experience.
Edit: As for GTA, it might be the game doing this. For example, Livingsocial is really annoying like that too. It doesn't matter if you just hit home and come back right away, it'll start from beginning. Yet, World of Goo, a much more demanding app, will come back exactly as I left it even when I leave to browse the internet for a while. Some developers really need to get with the program. I personally don't have GTA, so I couldn't tell you specifically.
Perfect. No other word to describe it. So much so I've noticed the phone stuttering a bit when scrolling (like a TINY bit, much less than any other android phone normally) and out of instinct opened the task killer to find 30+ applications all RUNNING. Including GTA3,
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Perfect. No other word to describe it. So much so I've noticed the phone stuttering a bit when scrolling (like a TINY bit, much less than any other android phone normally) and out of instinct opened the task killer to find 30+ applications all RUNNING. Including GTA3,
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OK, I know its good, but 30 RUNNING? You do realize some stay in the launcher but aren't running, right? So you clicked them and they all didn't need to reload? I find that hard to believe. Someone should do a stress test of how many apps you can open before they need to reload when you go back to them and post it on YouTube
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graphics issues

Hey I just got my g2. Incredible phone, there is a learning curve however. I'm not quite used to the dimensions and button the back, but I have only been using it for a couple days so I'll give it t some time. The screen and camera are the best I've ever seen(not counting the nokia1020).
The biggest issue for me right now is performance. Switching in and out of apps and navigating apps is pretty choppy. Had this been 3 years ago the speed would be great but I'm comparing it to my galaxy s4 and iPhone 5 side by side and the scrolling on some web pages and apps is frustratingly slow. I was wondering if anyone is seeing the same kind of performance?
No, my phone is flying. No lags whatsoever. I would try a master reset and see if that helps.
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No, my phone is flying. No lags whatsoever. I would try a master reset and see if that helps.
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Same here, fastest Android phone I ever dealt with. Experience is better then N4, just with a load of junk... Cyanogenmod for us will make it better!
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Same here, fastest Android phone I ever dealt with. Experience is better then N4, just with a load of junk... Cyanogenmod for us will make it better!
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Since your coming from anexus 4, which was my favorite android phone besides the camera. How are you doing with the size difference? I have larger than average size hands and I have to bounce the phone around in my hand to reach things I need to press at the top of the screen. Never had that problem with the nexus or my gs4.
I'm coming from a N4 too (I'll get the phone the G2 this week) I'll miss vanilla, but the battery life, camera, and larger screen will MORE than make up for that with the G2.
do me a favor and try youtube, asphalt 8, riptide gp, etc etc. (heavy 3d games) everything is choppy for me but the choppiness is rhythmic for some odd reason
First off, what launcher are you using? I think alot of people that get lagged that are caused by a poorly written app, and assume its the phones fault. Only good way to tell will be factory reset, and run it that way a bit. All good then add ur apps back one at a time, testing it between apps, and that will pinpoint which app is the issue...
I've been getting some random gitter/lag with the ui as well, just tested in antutu got 30,000 then a second time got 26,000. Isn't the g2 supposed to get like 35k?
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Just so I could make a statement based on fact I downloaded Riptide GP 2 to see if I got any lag or stuttering, I played 2 races with no lag or slowdown. Then I went into the graphic settings but everything was already maxed out by default, I ended up playing for 20 more minutes and its a very fun game lol. So yep it just went thru the game like butter the way you would expect it to..

Frame Drops like hell

Can anyone please report if they are seeing lots of crazy frame drops on this phone? I'm running rooted Xxx No Limits, but have observed the same on Elemental OS too. When you turn on 'Profile GPU Rendering' in the Developer Settings to 'On screen bars', I see a crazy amount of frame drops every where. I bought this phone because it is suppose to offer the best smoothness and performance rivaling only the Pixel, specially after the fantastic 3T. Attached are some images showing the frame drops on even mundane tasks like scrolling Settings menu. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
I use Action Launcher, but can anyone report if they see this on their stock launcher or other launchers?
PS: The phone 'seems' smooth and fast when doing these tasks. It doesn't seem to slow down and drop frames like crazy like an S8 or G6, which can be seen with the naked eye. It's only when I turn on GPU profiling that I can detect these frame drops. Is the GPU profiling reporting 'broken' and incorrectly reporting lots of frame drops? I'm confused.
Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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I don't see the jelly scrolling effect on my phone. I'm not sure if this frame drop issue and the jelly scrolling effect are related. Its interesting to know that you see a lot more frame drops in the rendering.
i agreed with you, for this phone having the latest 835 which is suppose to give a straight line of performance (no frame drops) yet i see a lot of those
what the hell is going on with this phone ...
i dont know if its the phone or the softwere but im so returning, the only reason i bought was because of the 835 and because its was the latest and will give you continues performance, its all a lie
Probably because the screen is upside down!
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Probably because the screen is upside down!
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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100%
Just tested on a Galaxy S8 and that graph looks even worst!!!!
What's happening?!?! Snap 835 is the culprit?
But I've seen a review with the HTC U11 and it doesn't do this.
Yeah mine is far from smooth as well, dunno,it just does not scroll smooth, my Nexus 5 on MIUI is soooo much smoother, way less frame drops.. I suppose theissue will vanish with the right ROM / Optmization, perhaps changing to a different CPU governor could help already..
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
atistang said:
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
atistang said:
Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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I'm right there with you brother.. The auto brightness has been a "real" issue for me. I have not had the jelly thing but then again I didn't go looking for it. The camera? Well I took what I though were some really nice looking photos over the 4th.
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Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Thank god I am not the only one, reading through some of the threads I am starting to feel like I am the crazy here. People are like "The phone is smooth but this tool is showing frame drops, **** Oneplus, I am returning this phone."
So they will return a 500€ flagship which runs smooth and they dont notice lags without a tool? They expect that the CPU is the cause of frame drops?
Seriously, this must be a joke. Its just looking for a problem when you dont have one.
I do notice the jelly scrolling, but its minimal, so its kinda cool, like a subtle animation.
Camera could be better but nobody can say its bad, they just overhyped it and didn't meet expectation.
Battery life is like out of this world, I got 8h of SoT, good luck on other phones with that.
No other issues were encountered in the meantime. Perfect phone.
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
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stebsgb1 said:
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
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The screenshot you have posted doesn't show any frame drops. Can you let e know what kernel you are using?
Here are my rom and kernel details. No governor settings changes etc, I'm just using the kernel out-the-box.

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