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I have been having a weird problem with the touch HD. After I installed pocket music player 5.1 I noticed that the palyer is not working correctly.
When I listen to music I notice that I hear a small gap or click in the song barely unoticeable, but to me its annoying. I store the music files on the external sd card. Also the sound quality really sucks from the hd compared to other mobile devices.
Then after playing some time I get a weird message that there is a error message ( audiomanager.exe ) encountered a problem.
Well Please tell me what might be the source of error with the pocket music player. And why do I get error messages.
Is there a better player than pocket music and gives great sound.
I don't like the music player that comes with touch hd, it does not sound that good either.
I kept getting that error with the TouchFlo musicplayer. I seem to have narrowed it down to the mps tags. I removed the track no and any comments and now have no problems.
For playback, are you talking about headphones or speaker ?
Have you installed th SD tune up prog ?
I have now installed the tune up prog.
I will test it now, but I mean that the lag in sound was when I connected the headphones.
What do u think of the sound quality ? I really am not impressed.
Is it cause of the pocket music player, or is there any other good music player
hykhleif said:
I have now installed the tune up prog.
I will test it now, but I mean that the lag in sound was when I connected the headphones.
What do u think of the sound quality ? I really am not impressed.
Is it cause of the pocket music player, or is there any other good music player
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I find my iphone headphones fine but my B&O do highlight problems (but they do on anything), overall I find it fine. You can adjust the sound to suit using the audio booster. Theres lots of different settings to tune the music.
I think is a common problem I have a few friends including me facing this problem ' skip gap within the song. We all using many brand of headphone to test it still having same problem (Audio-Techic, CrossRoads, Jays, etc). Anyone have any idea to how solve it? Thanks....
I am playing some music recorded to .ogg, using either Pocket Player or Coreplayer, but every few minutes (about 4-5 minutes), there is a little stutter during playback. It is very annoying and destroys my enjoyment.
I agree that the tracks are long (around 20 minutes) and the files are therefore large, but I have tried to increase buffer size for the players, but it seems to make no difference.
Has anyone got some inspiration for me?
thanks
rjstep3
I've also noticed similar minor "glitches" in the audio playback, but when playing .M4A files (similar to AAC).
Anyone else noticed this? I don't know if it also affects MP3s.
Ideas, anyone ?
- Steve
Hi,
I am also facing this problem any resolution?
Yes.... this problem happens with Mp3 also.... who could think of it. It can't even play music without stammering... lets not get started on video
BANE
I have tried the basic guide to enhancing performance at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366
and it seems to make no difference - the stutters are still there. I thought it might be related to doing a Send/receive in Messenger, but it doesn't seem to be.
This is real downer on my experience of the HD, as I was expecting it to be the ultimate communication/entertainment all-in-one device. Not so sure now.
rjstep3
I don't think optimizing performance has anything to do with this. I mean, playing audio is NOT a demanding process. My old xda2i used to play audio without hassle....
There is something else that is responsible for this skipping in audio on the HD, I just can't figure out WHAT.
BANE
Same for me with MP3 using PocketMusic player, hopefully will get some updates soon... Then hopefully the HD will be more of what we all wanted!
Excuse me if this is stating the obvious, but I would urge everyone experiencing this problem to be sure to REPORT IT to HTC.
If there is no obvious solution and it requires attention from HTC developers, then we can't expect them to fix it unless people actually tell them about it, preferably quite a few people !
Thanks,
- Steve
I have to say that I haven't experienced this even once. And I should be seeing it more than anyone, because I listen to audio books on my Touch HD for a total of about 80 minutes every day during my commute. My files are MP3s that are up to 8 hours long (100+ MB in some cases). I use Pocket Player 3.7. Never happened to me even once so far.
That stutter was exactly what was happening to me on my previous Windows Mobile phone, the AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II). It was like a half-second pause (not a skip) every once in a while. I was seeing it with Pocket Player 3.7 and with Audible.com's own player (possibly using the libraries of Windows Media Player) on that device.
In fact, one of the things that I like best about my Touch HD is that it cured that occasional pause problem for me when listening to audio books.
guney said:
I have to say that I haven't experienced this even once. And I should be seeing it more than anyone, because I listen to audio books on my Touch HD for a total of about 80 minutes every day during my commute.
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Interesting.. It would probably be less noticable with speech, though.
In my case, it's more like an occasional discontinuity in the tempo of the music, perhaps like a tiny fragment has been skipped. I only notice it every few minutes, but then again because the sound quality is generally very good, it's an annoying artifact in an otherwise pleasant listening experience.
I'm using the same music files that played back OK on my old PDA, so it can't be the fault of the files. I've not got any other fancy software loaded that might upset it, either.
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Interesting.. It would probably be less noticable with speech, though.
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That's probably true. There are more silences between sentences and, sometimes, words. That increases the likelihood that the stutter might coincide with one of those, which reduces my likelihood of noticing it. On the other hand, what are the odds of it always having coincided with those occasional brief silences in the audio book, in my entire two weeks' worth of audio book listening (easily over 10 hours) since I got the Touch HD?... I've never noticed it even once, while my similar stuttering experience on my Tilt was fairly obvious and annoying on a regular basis.
I have the same problem in all music players. It IS annoying. I have read in the Touch Diamond forum that they have had the same issue from day one. My Prophet and Trinity never had this skipping issue. Maybe a future rom will fix it.
Interesting thread here.. havent noticed anything so far on my HD..
testing it now to see if it accures!
will tell you the results in a bit
After aprox. 20mins of mp3s all is smooth without problems!
Guys i dont know why you have this annoying glitches.. i have no problems with mp3s or what so ever.. (using TF3D player)
the sound quality from the HD to my Creative Aurvana is just superb! i cant see why some people complain about the sound quality!
(get a decent pair of headphones maybe?)
here are is the info of my HD:
ROM: 1.14.40.1.3 (22273) WWE
ROM date: 10/24/08
Radio: 1.09.25.14
FYI as we all do.. i added a lot of programs and tweaks to the device so its not "clean"
as it was out of the box!
hope you resolve this issue.. but my guess its just a small bug in some rom builds?
yes this is a bug, and a bad bug too, it makes listening to any track really irksome. It has that sort of effect, where you sit there just waiting for the track to stutter.
the funny thing is that the stutters occur between 4-5 minutes apart. There must be something to that, the processor must become occupied at these regular intervals.
I think the obvious point, as someone pointed out above, is to report it to HTC - what they will do I have no idea, they normally don't answer my bug reports other than a formal receipt.
It seems from the posts here that this is definitely a problem. Perhaps another class action to make some action? The HD is now useless to me as a media player ...
rjstep3
rjstep3 said:
yes this is a bug, and a bad bug too, it makes listening to any track really irksome. It has that sort of effect, where you sit there just waiting for the track to stutter.
the funny thing is that the stutters occur between 4-5 minutes apart. There must be something to that, the processor must become occupied at these regular intervals.
I think the obvious point, as someone pointed out above, is to report it to HTC - what they will do I have no idea, they normally don't answer my bug reports other than a formal receipt.
It seems from the posts here that this is definitely a problem. Perhaps another class action to make some action? The HD is now useless to me as a media player ...
rjstep3
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can you post rom version etc of your device?
I have the stuttering problem as well and it's really annoying.
I have the same problem - using windows media player playing mp3 files
sgfrankman said:
Hi,
I am also facing this problem any resolution?
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I have the same problem too, I thought I was the only one.
I will try a hard reset and play some audio files to check if it is related to some piece of software installed on my HD.
i have the same problem, i am using mp3 at 320 kbs without conversion with the manilla player...the stutter is really a fraction of a second, but it is annoying indeed.
Well, as I lost my iPod I was going to use the X1 to play my MP3s. I know it won't be as good but it is better than nothing, for now.
Is the built in player any good? What about the audio quality? Can you subscribe to podcasts? Is it worth checking out CorePlayer?
Thanks.
Hey there,
I'm a heavy listener who planned on using the X1 for music before I bought it. I came from a 5.5G ipod video and I'm familiar with the iphone/ipod touch, and a lot of mp3 players on the market.
My conclusion? Don't, convergence is still not an easy thing to do right now, at least the software side can be very difficult and frustrating.
For example, I think Volume control is messy on the X1. There's a system volume, and then each music player app usually has its own volume control. You'll want to juggle both to get the volume adjustment you want. I don't know if all WM phones are like this, but it should be less clumsy.
The Panel will give you tiny snags from time to time, like cover art may or may not show up, and it's not as finger-friendly as the button sizes suggest. I don't use it for music; it's almost my least favorite music app for the X1.
Heavy music users coming to the WM system will want to pay $20 for one of the music apps. Don't use CorePlayer. Conduit's Pocket Player is the best, lots of tweaking possible and closest to the iphone's music player in terms of interface. However it's still not as smooth as the iphone, and there are some aspects of the operation I took two weeks but simply couldn't figure out (e.g. podcasts always play on the fly instead of download and sitting on the phone for later).
I'm not sure if you've already got the X1, whether you want to permanently replace the ipod with the phone, or if this is just a stopgap solution, so my reply is a bit all over the place. If you want free apps, S2P is probably the smoothest right now and IMO puts the X1's hardware to good use.
Sound quality... one of the phone review sites tested the X1 and the signal/noise ratio went through the roof, better than a large number of phones and mp3 players. In the world of audio numbers don't necessarily mean much, but the sound is definitely good. I just think the software side is a big letdown.
i am using pocket player and it works really well. It has the today screen plug in, making it very easy to use.
as for the quality, i would say the performance is so-so...but it also depends a lot of the headphones and the format of the music is
I like Windows Media Player more than the media panel. I sold my ipod touch when i got my xperia and it hasn't been a huge downgrade honestly, considering it's one less thing i have to carry in my pockets. The 16gb microsd card pretty much makes it into a full blown mp3 player. It's not bad, but don't expect audiophiles to be pleased with it. I'm a pretty average user, and I listen to music at least 3-5 hours each day on my x1.
I use the media panel
don't want to carry 2 devices so
I leave my ipod touch at home as remote
works great for me think speakers/headset mean a lot more
for audio quality then the device
i use media panel beaucse its finger friendly and can easily play music - does drain the batty kinda fast tho
I am a heavy listener as well, except the huge storage on ipod (well, some models), I think any WM can do better jobs especially w/ A2DP/AVRCP. Since many of my music are in video format (MTV, KTV, youtube ...etc), core player is my first choice.
Sound quality wise, Nokia is the best but the OS sucks.
I've always used my phone for music, and I must say I think the SE A200 walkman player is the best one i've seen (better than iPhone imo), but the Media panel for X1 is okay too.
"I think any WM can do better jobs especially w/ A2DP/AVRCP."
yeah i use my nokia a2dp headset with mine to avoid wires
The stock music player on the note, besides not being able to do gapless playback also has really annoying DRC - very noticable compressing going on if you use custom EQ - and a noise gate which chops out very quiet passages/the tail end of fades off.
Is there any music player out there that gets round these issues or is it Samsung thoughtfully building this into hardware?
I used to love the Note but the more time I spend with it the more I realise the only thing I like is the screen size
Music
My choice is power amp, flexible, has it's own eq & dvc limit facility + a free trial, I bought early days.
hope this helps
I like Winamp (paid) or Mortplayer (free).
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
Do they still have Dynamic Range Compression and the noise gate on?
Good example of the noise gate kicking in is track 12 of The Feeling's Twelve Stops and Home when it drops to the pub noise and walkign home the sound cuts in and out as the (unwanted) noise gate kicks in. I can understand having it on phone calls but why the ferk does it need to be on in music player?
I don't think it's the stock music player. I've noticed this DRC/noise gate thing everywhere, in the flash plugin, in vplayer, stock music player, ...
Whenever a certain volume level is not reached, it gets muted. E.g. the heavy breathing of Tony Soprano in the Sopranos when he's at his shrink's are muted, and totally ruining the experience.. Doesn't matter if it's in vplayer or in the standard video player app.
smashmash said:
Do they still have Dynamic Range Compression and the noise gate on?
Good example of the noise gate kicking in is track 12 of The Feeling's Twelve Stops and Home when it drops to the pub noise and walkign home the sound cuts in and out as the (unwanted) noise gate kicks in. I can understand having it on phone calls but why the ferk does it need to be on in music player?
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Why don't you try? All three propositions (Mortplayer, Winamp, Poweramp) doesn't cost you a dime if you want to try them. There is a trial version of poweramp, a light version of Winamp and Mortplayer is generally free. So take a look at the players yourself in order to see whether they suit you or not.
Background noise
Well there's no point trying, the thing is hardware related - no equalizer or software player can cure it.
I'm coming from HD2 and it had the same problem, way more audible.
Basically every phone I've tried had this kind of backround noise, the one with lowest levels of it is HTC Desire S.
This noise is barely audible or not audible at all when you're using low quality phones, but when using good ones (Fischer Audio Eterna here) you can easily spot it..
Currently my player of choice is PowerAmp - it has the best quality of MP3 decoding libraries, sound stage is rich, wide and detailed, so I can live with a little amount of noise. When I can't, I'm using Desire S as a MP3 player
So that's what its called, noise gate
I have had this since I bought the Note, through Gingerbread now ICS, watching films with headphones or listening to music, the low quiet bits are cut and simply go silent, hate it, as I listen to lots of music and watch films, its constantly cutting sound out and back on...starting to think its a hardware fault, but others are obviously getting this too, so surely there is a fix
Question for those of you with this phone.
Are any of you using a 3rd party music player? I have Poweramp and I noticed that the sound for this is much lower on this device as opposed to the when I had the Galaxy S4. Even tweaking the EQ like I did on the S4 yields no results. Right now I am using Mortplayer Music since most of my music is in various folders not all by album. So far the sound is pretty good but it just strikes me as odd that these players are much lower than the Google Play Music app. I don't really care for that app, as it decides it wants to pull from the streaming library despite me saying local only... I don't remember having this issue on older versions...(maybe it's just me) but I was never really sold on this app anyway.
I also tried shuttle+ and Flipbeats with similar results...
chousue said:
Question for those of you with this phone.
Are any of you using a 3rd party music player? I have Poweramp and I noticed that the sound for this is much lower on this device as opposed to the when I had the Galaxy S4. Even tweaking the EQ like I did on the S4 yields no results. Right now I am using Mortplayer Music since most of my music is in various folders not all by album. So far the sound is pretty good but it just strikes me as odd that these players are much lower than the Google Play Music app. I don't really care for that app, as it decides it wants to pull from the streaming library despite me saying local only... I don't remember having this issue on older versions...(maybe it's just me) but I was never really sold on this app anyway.
I also tried shuttle+ and Flipbeats with similar results...
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It could be the sound processing in general that is the issue. I have noticed that the volume is softer in general than other phones I have had. Even in my house I have found that the volume has to be at least half to consistently hear notifications/phone calls, in or out of pocket.
When playing music using headphones or over Bluetooth, maybe using the various H/K processing could be lowering the volume. With it on and the volume maxed, I still have to turn up my aftermarket car radio's volume up more than I'd like to to hear the music (oftentimes podcasts) and especially taking a call over Bluetooth.