Well, as I lost my iPod I was going to use the X1 to play my MP3s. I know it won't be as good but it is better than nothing, for now.
Is the built in player any good? What about the audio quality? Can you subscribe to podcasts? Is it worth checking out CorePlayer?
Thanks.
Hey there,
I'm a heavy listener who planned on using the X1 for music before I bought it. I came from a 5.5G ipod video and I'm familiar with the iphone/ipod touch, and a lot of mp3 players on the market.
My conclusion? Don't, convergence is still not an easy thing to do right now, at least the software side can be very difficult and frustrating.
For example, I think Volume control is messy on the X1. There's a system volume, and then each music player app usually has its own volume control. You'll want to juggle both to get the volume adjustment you want. I don't know if all WM phones are like this, but it should be less clumsy.
The Panel will give you tiny snags from time to time, like cover art may or may not show up, and it's not as finger-friendly as the button sizes suggest. I don't use it for music; it's almost my least favorite music app for the X1.
Heavy music users coming to the WM system will want to pay $20 for one of the music apps. Don't use CorePlayer. Conduit's Pocket Player is the best, lots of tweaking possible and closest to the iphone's music player in terms of interface. However it's still not as smooth as the iphone, and there are some aspects of the operation I took two weeks but simply couldn't figure out (e.g. podcasts always play on the fly instead of download and sitting on the phone for later).
I'm not sure if you've already got the X1, whether you want to permanently replace the ipod with the phone, or if this is just a stopgap solution, so my reply is a bit all over the place. If you want free apps, S2P is probably the smoothest right now and IMO puts the X1's hardware to good use.
Sound quality... one of the phone review sites tested the X1 and the signal/noise ratio went through the roof, better than a large number of phones and mp3 players. In the world of audio numbers don't necessarily mean much, but the sound is definitely good. I just think the software side is a big letdown.
i am using pocket player and it works really well. It has the today screen plug in, making it very easy to use.
as for the quality, i would say the performance is so-so...but it also depends a lot of the headphones and the format of the music is
I like Windows Media Player more than the media panel. I sold my ipod touch when i got my xperia and it hasn't been a huge downgrade honestly, considering it's one less thing i have to carry in my pockets. The 16gb microsd card pretty much makes it into a full blown mp3 player. It's not bad, but don't expect audiophiles to be pleased with it. I'm a pretty average user, and I listen to music at least 3-5 hours each day on my x1.
I use the media panel
don't want to carry 2 devices so
I leave my ipod touch at home as remote
works great for me think speakers/headset mean a lot more
for audio quality then the device
i use media panel beaucse its finger friendly and can easily play music - does drain the batty kinda fast tho
I am a heavy listener as well, except the huge storage on ipod (well, some models), I think any WM can do better jobs especially w/ A2DP/AVRCP. Since many of my music are in video format (MTV, KTV, youtube ...etc), core player is my first choice.
Sound quality wise, Nokia is the best but the OS sucks.
I've always used my phone for music, and I must say I think the SE A200 walkman player is the best one i've seen (better than iPhone imo), but the Media panel for X1 is okay too.
"I think any WM can do better jobs especially w/ A2DP/AVRCP."
yeah i use my nokia a2dp headset with mine to avoid wires
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I thought about getting a stand alone mp3 player, but considering WinMo already has a player it would save me a considerable amount of cash. The only thing I'm worried about is the sound quality since this was designed to be a phone after all. Has anyone done a comparison with a decent pair of headphones? Any word which direction i should point myself into?
the oem head phones can be very uncomfortable for
prolonged periods of time,
i suggest you buy a usb to 3.5mm converter
which can be found on ebay or amazon for as little as
$1.50, as for the sound quality, it is very good on
some decent headphones, it all comes down to
what headphones you pair it with, if you use the
oem headphones than the sound quality is
acceptable but not great. i would also suggest you
use tcpmp to play those other formats with higher sound
quality, and S2P for an easy to use media player.
hope that helps.
Short Answer.
Yes the Hermes makes a great MP3 player, a little complex to use, but still a great MP3 player.
Long Answer.
I find it to work rather well. However I very rarely use it with headphones, I have the audio out, feeding my headunit in my car. So it plays through 9 speakers. (2 tweeters, 4 mid range, 2 mid bass, and 1 sub) People are amazed that all my music is played through my phone and the controllability I have over selection is very awesome. I have even used my phone as a substitute for DJ equipment. I set up all the speakers and amps, plugged in my phone and got the music playing, then setup all the electronic equipment and moved over to Virtual DJ with a laptop and External Drives. When the night was winding down, I went back to the phone with a pre-programed play-list and had all the gear except speakers and amps loaded and packed 30mins before the party was even done.
Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.
really? i find the music quality more than good enough. what headphones are you using?
The Headphone quality is f*cking good!!! I havn't heard this kinda bass on my I-Mate Jam or HTC TyTN II.
One thing is correct, the quality of the original earpieces is bad.
I got ones from creative. The one that go into you're ear.
The speaker quality..... Don't talk about it. Hate it
I'm using Sennheiser CX400 earphones and the sound quality is actually better than my iPod 5g.
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jsbutran said:
Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.
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The headphones supplied with this phone are suprisingly high quality ones. I have my own Phillips branded ones however.
Aside from the headphones, I think you issue is with the software you use. I found that WMPlayer is pretty crap when it comes to playing my favourite tracks. I use PocketPlayer and also Pocket Music, which have some very good equaliser functions. They make a big difference.
I also find the sound quality f*cking good!!
I expected the worse because it's a WM device, but it exceeded my expectations. Also using Creative ear-ins (EP-630)
I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
Since I've turned on the "clicking" noise for screen taps, the above bug doesn't occur so often.
However, if I receive a call whilst listening to music after subsequently hanging up the bug re-appears.
Anyone else getting this?
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I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
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I have this too, but I don't think the bug is mediapanel related only.
I get this when I use S2P, Wmplayer and the media panel.
Sounds almost like flat mono before I tap pause and then play again..
I don't see this as a huge bug, but it can get annoying.
It depends on the mood I'm in..
can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?
It's definitely weaker than the N73 one.
so much so its sickening or just a tiny bit? how bad are we talking about here :S?
I was expecting this thread to be about the poor speakerphone quality.... which it is. I know of no WM phone with a good speakerphone so I wasn't expecting it to be as good as my N95's. However, music through headphone jack is as good, or perhaps even better than my N95 (not as much background hiss as the N95). I use Shure SE430's (pretty expensive earphones) and I find the music playback to be quite good. I even hook the X1 up to my Logitech Z5500 speakers through the Line-in jack and I can pretty much DJ a party with the phone and it sounds as good as if the songs were being played off my computer. (This is all through the SE Multimedia Panel btw. I get similar results with CorePlayer or Windows Media Player).
The only problem I have with the media panel is I can't receive calls with it open. That may or may not be a plus/minus to some people, but I guess it's ok. When people call me, it goes straight to voicemail. The only way I can receive calls with music playing is to go back to the today screen (with the music still going), which works out ok too, since I hold the end key to lock the phone, which brings it back to the Today screen before locking.
worst audio player?? are you kidding?
sorry, but thats definitly NOT TRUE.
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the x1 has got the best and most powerfull audio out, i`ve tested. (but not compared with n70/73)
i wrote it few days ago in the accessoires threat.
i use the Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear
with 3 drivers/speakers per earpiece. (like a 3 way oldschool musik speaker)
i`ve tested my ue10pro headsets with a lot of other mp3 players and mobile phones.
but the X1 is the first player, who can unleash the power to drive the UE 10 pro to there limit....
only my sondcard a creative x-fi has got enough power to blast your ears/tympanic membrane....
the base is unbeleavable! the headset can go down to 10hz. and the high tones are crisp, sharp, clear. but a little
to soft from the middle to the highest frequency. but this could be fixed with the equalizer/audio booster.
if you set the first base frequency to +12 and the second slider to -10, you can formerly 'feel' the extreme deep bases.
you cant beleave, that you are not in a club!
don`t use the x1+ue10 for longer time on maximum power. thats very risky for your ears. trust me.
the only thing is, you have to use coreplayer and calibrate the equalizer.
or use a new custom rom (touch it hd) with integrated audio booster.
holy ****, that rulez!!
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear (~300$-400$)
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
these devices with othoplastic, spezially for your ears. and a laser burns your name into the headsets.
if you have 900$ bucks into your pocket, take a look at that:
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
or 1150$? with 4 audio drivers/speaker per ear!!
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
this is the last headset you buy! the cables are replaceble with translucent cables and iphone button.
no more broken headset cables/wires.
my advice, use coreplayer. DONT adjust the equalizer/tone faders more then 12 db.
you will be surprised.
(core is able to adjust more than 12db/slider. more then 12db will bring disharmonies and ugly subtones and crickeling)
(the audio booster could only adjust 6 db. thats not enough for xtreme bases.
but dont use in coreplayer the 2 lowest faders both to +12. thats to much base and
the headsets and the power amp will be very unprecise and roar/rumble and you run into danger to burn the headset
for good kickbase decrase the lowest fader to -3 and the second fader to +12, the 3th to +6. increase the high tones 1-4 db.
for good ultra deep base drums, set the lowest frequenzy +9 or +12, and the second one to -2, the third 0 db.
i have a ultimate ear fi 5 pro headphones with two driver lower is range then DOMin8or tri fi 10 pro. i get quite good results but not on the default player. I only use touch flo 3d in -built music player with audio booster, if you know how to set it , i guarantee you get better sound then walkman phone. i prefer bass and vocal no to be so dull. get the touch flo 3d music player set it to rock mode first then try to made this mode to v shape by just shifting the first two bar to be same as the last two bar, trust me even if you are using your default headphones, you will notice the difference
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can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?
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speaker phone n95 8gb i think is the best
try this setting on audio booster
possibly, but i will it verify by my own. for me, this is the best combo i`ve tested. and ths x1 has got exactly that power, i`ve searched for. more power will destruct my/your ears
i like this unhealthy power of X1. and at 90% power, the sound is very precise and defined.
and 90% is my personal max. and i like it loud. but 100% ? not with me. *G
audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice/hint could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(possible +-18, but most time useless. only for spezial noise filtering. for example in microphone recordings)
the most players output power broken down, if i increased the base and at high volume.
with other players, you can formaly feel the missing amp power. (ipod nano iv suuuxxxxxx,cheap no name mp3 player,orbit,diamond,nokia 6233, creative zen v plus. but zen v was the best.(not the best menu, but good sound quali)
but now the x1 is my favorit device)
imho the x1 has got a good power amp.
im not sure will it fit everyone style but after some tunning i think this settings best for me to go for on default earphones, i have been looking for post how to optimized sound quality, here is one, hopefully more will share there experience, i bought the x1 because of the 3.5mm connector if x1 doesnt has it i wont even look up to x1!
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audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(+-18useless)
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i have a coreplayer as will DOMin8or would you post some screen shot about the 12db settings? wanna see will it rock my 5 pro
Hi guys.
I wanted to listen some FLAC with my Wildfire so I tested three free players which is on Market: Meridian, AMPlayer, andLess. I used the phone a lot before every test so I could get some realistic results. All of them were laggy :/ but I'm searching for best.
Meridian: Was the best of the three. Lagged lesser than the others. It has the best browsing feature. I wished that it gets browsing like TCPMP 0.81 which is on WM.
AMPlayer: 2nd less lagger of the three. It has a weird annoying and sucking browsing which pushes you to create a playlist :/ And I didn't like it
andLess: Most lagger of the three. Has a simple browsing which is better than AMP's. Worst thing about it is appers in notifications instead of ongoing so I hated it
Winner: Meridian. Until the CorePlayer released i think
Of course I can't get better quality than MP3 with Wildfire's stock speaker but I can listen them with headphones or power speakers. And I thought that can we replace the speaker with a better one?
I tried Meridian - works flawless Thank you for your review. I'm now listening only to flac format
I have been using my note 3 for the past few days (s800). There is a feature called adapt sound in the audio settings. Once set up the audio is vastly improved on the stock music player compared to 3rd party ones. I tried power amp, double twist, winamp. None of them come close to the extra detail produced by the stock player. Has anyone noticed this? My mp3s are 320 at 44khz.
Further is it worth converting them to 24 bit, 192khz.
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I have been using my note 3 for the past few days (s800). There is a feature called adapt sound in the audio settings. Once set up the audio is vastly improved on the stock music player compared to 3rd party ones. I tried power amp, double twist, winamp. None of them come close to the extra detail produced by the stock player. Has anyone noticed this? My mp3s are 320 at 44khz.
Further is it worth converting them to 24 bit, 192khz.
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You mean playing trough headphones or the phone speaker?
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You mean playing trough headphones or the phone speaker?
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Earphones only
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I agree. I think Samsung has done well to implement this feature. So far as I know, no smartphone manufacturer cares to customise the sound output to the individual user. I am so rooted to Samsung phones now that I can almost totally neglect the asthetics and only focus on the features. But why no FM?!?!?! That will make a perfect phone. Lol.
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I agree. I think Samsung has done well to implement this feature. So far as I know, no smartphone manufacturer cares to customise the sound output to the individual user. I am so rooted to Samsung phones now that I can almost totally neglect the asthetics and only focus on the features. But why no FM?!?!?! That will make a perfect phone. Lol.
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Because radio is dead.
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You mean playing trough headphones or the phone speaker?
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Well, you can configure only using a decent pair of headphones as the process is quite personalized.
mix1987 said:
I agree. I think Samsung has done well to implement this feature. So far as I know, no smartphone manufacturer cares to customise the sound output to the individual user. I am so rooted to Samsung phones now that I can almost totally neglect the asthetics and only focus on the features. But why no FM?!?!?! That will make a perfect phone. Lol.
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Well, to be honest, the build quality of the GN3 is really good. Played with Htc one, Ipone 5. There is nothing that stands out among them except the initial wow factor which is certainly there with the GN3 textured back and overshadowed by the awesome screen.
That feature was included on the S4 too it seems, and I have no idea why they didn't advertise it at all, sounds awesome. Can't wait to try it out with my Shure SE535s.
Seems that adapt sounds creates a customized eq for only the stock music player (there is a whole article on phone arena, Google it) based on your hearing and your headphones. Does the stock music player play flac? I hope so. As for converting your music, its only going to be as good as your source, upscaling won't do anything, maybe add a tiny bit of depth, but it won't be worth the space lost increasing the file size. If your looking for a way to get the most from ripping music directly from CDs, I'd look into flac, or ogg, or if your stuck with mp3 format, the highest quality without making the file size outrageous. Also, if you looking for quality music, get you a pair of good headphones (don't forget to redo adept sound, as it tunes specifically for the headphones you do it with)
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Seems that adapt sounds creates a customized eq for only the stock music player (there is a whole article on phone arena, Google it) based on your hearing and your headphones. Does the stock music player play flac? I hope so. As for converting your music, its only going to be as good as your source, upscaling won't do anything, maybe add a tiny bit of depth, but it won't be worth the space lost increasing the file size. If your looking for a way to get the most from ripping music directly from CDs, I'd look into flac, or ogg, or if your stuck with mp3 format, the highest quality without making the file size outrageous. Also, if you looking for quality music, get you a pair of good headphones (don't forget to redo adept sound, as it tunes specifically for the headphones you do it with)
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Thanks for the link. It seems only the stock player can make use of this. Was trying the stock player and poweramp for a couple of hours trying to figure out how to decide which player to use. (had the paid version of the poweramp and didn't want to lose its customisation and looks). Ended up using the Stock as the sound quality is clearly different and for the better. Will be using mp3s mostly at 320 kbps. As you mentioned the quality is pretty good at this bit rate. The file sizes range 10-15mb per song at most.
Use ATH-M50s for audio. and plan on using the N3 a lot as an Mp3 player
Bluetooth adapt sound
Does adapt sound work with a bluetooth headset on the N3?
catching up with the radio does not only mean you are intended to listen the music only as there is a great variety, of news, facts, debate and communication with the mass set by the radio platform, is of no match ... and someone is saying the radio is dead
I didn't realize it only effected the stock player. I was hoping it would have been good for all players. I rarely use the stock player because I stream everything.
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Seems that adapt sounds creates a customized eq for only the stock music player
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Is there a way to get hold of the EQ settings after running adapt sound? Some file where they are stored, some setting to be able to view it? If so, wr can then duplicate in any EQ software so that it will be usable in any player.. This would be nice.
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Is there a way to get hold of the EQ settings after running adapt sound? Some file where they are stored, some setting to be able to view it? If so, wr can then duplicate in any EQ software so that it will be usable in any player.. This would be nice.
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I wish someone would figure this out. Can't use poweramp unless there is a way to replicate the audio output from stock.
Got a question for you 'audiophile' types. I'm preordering one of these and have read a review on Droid Life that the audio jack volume gets messed up; i.e. will be at a lower volume and suddenly jump up and it varies at times. Have you had this issue at all with the jack?? I use my phone heavily for music through my car and need a working jack. Thanks!
I might have stumbled on a clue towards applying Adapt Sound globally or with different music apps.. I was fiddling around with it the other day, and then I was testing the Samsung music app and Google Play Music. Of course, music played through Play Music did not enable the Adapt Sound.
However, when I was listening to a song in Play Music, I thought I'd open the Samsung music app to try to run a comparison, and as soon as I opened it, it applied the Adapt Sound to the music that was playing through Play Music! It seems that when the Samsung music app opens, it enables the Adapt Sound regardless if it's actually playing anything or not, and simply keeping it open in a second window kept the Adapt Sound enabled! As soon as I closed the Samsung music app, the Adapt Sound was disabled and the sound reverted to the default. Perhaps this may give a clue on how Adapt Sound is applied through the Samsung music app, and perhaps make it possible to make a widget with a button that can enable or disable the Adapt Sound feature.
Lars
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I might have stumbled on a clue towards applying Adapt Sound globally or with different music apps.. I was fiddling around with it the other day, and then I was testing the Samsung music app and Google Play Music. Of course, music played through Play Music did not enable the Adapt Sound.
However, when I was listening to a song in Play Music, I thought I'd open the Samsung music app to try to run a comparison, and as soon as I opened it, it applied the Adapt Sound to the music that was playing through Play Music! It seems that when the Samsung music app opens, it enables the Adapt Sound regardless if it's actually playing anything or not, and simply keeping it open in a second window kept the Adapt Sound enabled! As soon as I closed the Samsung music app, the Adapt Sound was disabled and the sound reverted to the default. Perhaps this may give a clue on how Adapt Sound is applied through the Samsung music app, and perhaps make it possible to make a widget with a button that can enable or disable the Adapt Sound feature.
Lars
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Wow, that seems awesome, I am about to try it!:highfive:
couldn't see a difference in RDIO, I might have picked it up slightly in google lay music, but not sure if it was placebo effect, couldn't pinpoint it, tried toggling on and off, switching apps several times to detect it, couldn't tell tbh
Hmm. Weird. I'm on the international n9005 with mj1 firmware. I hear a very noticable change in the sound when I perform the test and it makes Play Music sound just as good as the stock Samsung player. Maybe more people can test it and see if it works. Might be different across different ROMs and different versions of the Note 3, specially Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Adapt & Bluetooth headphones?
Love Adapt but is there any way to make it work with a pair of Bluetooth headphones?
Question for those of you with this phone.
Are any of you using a 3rd party music player? I have Poweramp and I noticed that the sound for this is much lower on this device as opposed to the when I had the Galaxy S4. Even tweaking the EQ like I did on the S4 yields no results. Right now I am using Mortplayer Music since most of my music is in various folders not all by album. So far the sound is pretty good but it just strikes me as odd that these players are much lower than the Google Play Music app. I don't really care for that app, as it decides it wants to pull from the streaming library despite me saying local only... I don't remember having this issue on older versions...(maybe it's just me) but I was never really sold on this app anyway.
I also tried shuttle+ and Flipbeats with similar results...
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Question for those of you with this phone.
Are any of you using a 3rd party music player? I have Poweramp and I noticed that the sound for this is much lower on this device as opposed to the when I had the Galaxy S4. Even tweaking the EQ like I did on the S4 yields no results. Right now I am using Mortplayer Music since most of my music is in various folders not all by album. So far the sound is pretty good but it just strikes me as odd that these players are much lower than the Google Play Music app. I don't really care for that app, as it decides it wants to pull from the streaming library despite me saying local only... I don't remember having this issue on older versions...(maybe it's just me) but I was never really sold on this app anyway.
I also tried shuttle+ and Flipbeats with similar results...
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It could be the sound processing in general that is the issue. I have noticed that the volume is softer in general than other phones I have had. Even in my house I have found that the volume has to be at least half to consistently hear notifications/phone calls, in or out of pocket.
When playing music using headphones or over Bluetooth, maybe using the various H/K processing could be lowering the volume. With it on and the volume maxed, I still have to turn up my aftermarket car radio's volume up more than I'd like to to hear the music (oftentimes podcasts) and especially taking a call over Bluetooth.