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OTA updates. How?

If I'm ignorant, please forgive me. But let's just say that the rumored Android 2.1 update is ready next week ... or even the week after that. How is the update to be distributed?
On my G1, it believe it was distributed as an OTA update. Considering I bought my N1 from Google (without subsidy - so t-mobile thinks I have a G1, currently) and Google's N1 site is kind of bare, and that I never had an option to register my phone/phone number combination with anyone ... how would I even knkow when/where to get it if not for these forums?

cliffy15 said:
If I'm ignorant, please forgive me. But let's just say that the rumored Android 2.1 update is ready next week ... or even the week after that. How is the update to be distributed?
On my G1, it believe it was distributed as an OTA update. Considering I bought my N1 from Google (without subsidy - so t-mobile thinks I have a G1, currently) and Google's N1 site is kind of bare, and that I never had an option to register my phone/phone number combination with anyone ... how would I even knkow when/where to get it if not for these forums?
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A friend of mine bought a G1 unlocked and uses it as his main phone without notifying his network provider and still receives OTA updates.

Hopefully, we'll get a notify to download the ota update...

I wonder if we will get official updates to add the flash 10.1, Multi-touch enabling and so fourth directly from Google/HTC.

Or maybe its how HTC did with Hero, I remember when an update came out it would be posted on the htc site along with a link and instructions on how to install them.

Good god, I can only hope not. I can't even imagine the complaints from people trying to install their own updates. Google would be asking to shot themselves in the foot.
Have you read have the complaints on the Nexus forum. Half of them can't figure how to turn the phone on and the other half shouldn't even be using a 'smartphone.' Sorry, if I'm being patronizing but that is why the iPhone 'works.' A 5 year old kid and use that thing.
Not an applefan boy. I love my Nexus One. I'm just saying it wouldn't be ideal. Every phone as an ip address to the internet so I'm sure they would somehow send it that way?

Doesn't the phone do an update check? then the phone downloads it, as opposed to it being "sent" to the phones...

trinode said:
Doesn't the phone do an update check? then the phone downloads it, as opposed to it being "sent" to the phones...
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Yes. The OTA update is really your phone checking for a new release and then downloading it and installing it if it's available. There is no push.
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archboy69 said:
Good god, I can only hope not. I can't even imagine the complaints from people trying to install their own updates. Google would be asking to shot themselves in the foot.
Have you read have the complaints on the Nexus forum. Half of them can't figure how to turn the phone on and the other half shouldn't even be using a 'smartphone.' Sorry, if I'm being patronizing but that is why the iPhone 'works.' A 5 year old kid and use that thing.
Not an applefan boy. I love my Nexus One. I'm just saying it wouldn't be ideal. Every phone as an ip address to the internet so I'm sure they would somehow send it that way?
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Yes you are being patronizing....Nokia give their updates both over the air and via PC. The choice of download and install is up to the user. Even via pc is straight forward any 5 year old could do it,in fact any fool could do it.....even you!

yeah, I maybe a fool that can update my phone but I'm pretty sure my 5 year old neice is not likely able to and brick her little hello kitty phone and rant and rave on the nexus forum of why the phone isn't booting up.
Have you been to Best Buy and listen to the people paying their money at the Geek Squad at the help station? Sure, there might be plenty of peole who are tech savy but the joe six pack....yeah sure.

archboy69 said:
yeah, I maybe a fool that can update my phone but I'm pretty sure my 5 year old neice is not likely able to and brick her little hello kitty phone and rant and rave on the nexus forum of why the phone isn't booting up.
Have you been to Best Buy and listen to the people paying their money at the Geek Squad at the help station? Sure, there might be plenty of peole who are tech savy but the joe six pack....yeah sure.
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Different people have different levels of knowledge and we all have to start somewhere, that's how we learn. Perhaps a little more patience on your part.
These forums are for people to air their problems and hopefully get some advice.
Its nice to be nice

lol go att captivate!

x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago · via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!

Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Blah man said:
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...

Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?

Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.

tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.

SamsungVibrant said:
You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.

Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.

Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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If you don't like the post why reply?

speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.

The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom

I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>

not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November

I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.

Imie not updated!

Ok I called cust service for t-mobile, argued about not getting update. Come to find out they use the IMIE to send out the update. They had the one for My Cliq XT and I had to give them My IMIE for this VIBRANT. He did tell me that when they update there systems tonight I should be good to go. Will update you all.
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You argued about not getting an update that's rolling out Oct 7-31? That's great. Keep wasting resources
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b1wyatt said:
Ok I called cust service for t-mobile, argued about not getting update. Come to find out they use the IMIE to send out the update. They had the one for My Cliq XT and I had to give them My IMIE for this VIBRANT. He did tell me that when they update there systems tonight I should be good to go. Will update you all.
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I always thought the IMIE was recorded before hand. I bought my vibrant without a contract and I do not have a data plan, also, as far as tmobile is concerned, i may still be using a sidekick.
would this affect my update status.
one more thing, i dont have a data plan, but im almost always on wifi.
CAN I STILL GET THE UPDATE?

My replacement Vibrant is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'll make sure to call them so that they can update my IMEI, if this is true.
And it is IMEI, not IMIE.
I almost didn't know what the threat title was referring to.

Just ODIN flash the update, haha come on people.

dmolition said:
Just ODIN flash the update, haha come on people.
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Seriously a little sick of people starting posts worried about if they will get the ota update or if it will brick their phone... the update is posted on the site and can be flashed through Odin. Especially for those who have already been concerned about bricking easy enough flash back to stock and then flash update.
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good to go
engineer14 said:
I always thought the IMIE was recorded before hand. I bought my vibrant without a contract and I do not have a data plan, also, as far as tmobile is concerned, i may still be using a sidekick.
would this affect my update status.
one more thing, i dont have a data plan, but im almost always on wifi.
CAN I STILL GET THE UPDATE?
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T-Mo's systems generally update the IMEI automatically, but there is more than system that reads that info - The billing system is one which doesn't automatically update, but really matter for anything. I was a TMo rep and I did see our other tools be incorrect, but this was very rare - I can only remember 3-4 times in the many years I was with the company, and usually this was just because there wasn't enough time for the system to update. This takes 24-48 hours.
Bottom line: you will still get the update and the op would have too if he had waited, because the rep more than likely just checked the billing system IMEI info.

Lorddart,
Unless you own this forum we will post and say what we want. Stop.your winning and move on negative one. Ifno is invo read it or
Leave it. move on lawndart find a new yard.
By the way it is day.2 and no.update.
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don't worry too much b1wyatt. t-mo's doing this update in staggered waves. it's one of those things where you'll get it when you get it. i know ppl have already mentioned ODIN but there's Kies mini for the Vibrant as well. it seems sure fire if you've got a 32 bit OS (not so sure for those on x64 systems as some have complained that Kies mini won't see their phones ). i'm still kinda debating whether to use ODIN or Kies mini on my bf's phone for the update (i think Kies is safer).

If you root your nexus 4g READ THIS

I have been having isues with my Nexus s4G and the radio. At first like most would have thought it to be something i did. But Nope sprint kicked off their network after i rooted and updated my prl and profile! have not had the chance to talk to sprint yet. went online to check my account, that Ive had for 9 years. to see no device found and my plan has been droped. WTF sprint.
im a modreate user and dont ues wireless teather.
so wtf put out a dev phone and kick off any user that unlocks the device @sses
will update when i call in the morning
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.

Are you sure it had something to do with you rooting and updating prl/profile?

Yeah, i'm quite sure if that really happened, the forums would be full of such threads. Sure it has to do with your rooting?

Intresting

I recently switched from T-Mobile to sprint for the N4G. First thing I did was root it. Updated PRL and profile after. It has been three days since that and I have no issues with the phone nor the network or plan

ditto! no problems for me.
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I haven't had any issues either. And in all honestly, I think they probably did that for another reason....not because you rooted band updated your phone.
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OK feel like a newb now. But you can root and still update whatever updates they send like prl and radio? I'm assuming since it's still stock just rooted?

rooted, clockwork. i updated profile, prl etc. Pretty sure my device is working as it should.
*signs on to sprint.com

903tex said:
OK feel like a newb now. But you can root and still update whatever updates they send like prl and radio? I'm assuming since it's still stock just rooted?
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yes, you can root and update prl, profile.

tailsthecat3 said:
yes, you can root and update prl, profile.
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Thanks that's good to know

OP, please call Sprint and report back here. Good luck mate.

Its cool stuff happens were all still learning this phone and its trial and error that's what this fourm is for
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#updated op#
yes you can update prl and profile with root it was said to help data speeds after you flash or wipe a new rom

stillblood said:
#updated op#
yes you can update prl and profile with root it was said to help data speeds after you flash or wipe a new rom
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what happened to your account????????????????? did ya forget why were all tuned in here?
##EDit* just read OP update cheers

stillblood said:
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.
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You may want to edit the title of your post as a result of this revelation and/or put your update at the top of the OP. It's entirely possible people are not going to read your entire post to get to the update portion that clears this up and they'll go off into some panic and use ODIN to flash the wrong rom and brick their device (it seems people just flash the first thing they find recently).

Glad everything got sorted out for you

stillblood said:
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.
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No worries, glad you got it sorted out. Cheers.

I don't know if it's just me......

But this whole downgrade to being considered a "Low Activity Device" is kinda messing with me a little...
I kinda really don't like it, lol...
If there is anyone else with me, let's all email the Super Mods, and see if we can bring it back
Please,
Taylore

The sad thing is that there has been more activity in here the past month than there was before, and it then gets the downgrade

As much as I hate to agree with this, we are a low activity device. Other than the general chatter about upgrading to froyo, we have a couple of ROMs and kernels that haven't been updated in quite some time, a gingerbread theme and some Ticker tweaks. Compared to other devices that is low activity.
We would need to kick up the development to really justify getting it moved.
-weudel
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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.

What does it mean to be downgraded? Can we still find all the dev stuff on our favorite sure?
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It just means that we have been moved... Which in theory would be no big deal if there wasn't a handful of people who have been trying to keep this board alive and just got there efforts thwarted.... -__-

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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.
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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.

I have no idea why Verizon hasn't pushed that update out. It's incredible that they could just let the Continuum people hang like that. I'm going to talk to my media relations contact (I'm a product journalist by trade) and see what they say off the record. I'm sure it will go something like this "No comment at this time".

iThread said:
That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon

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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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I like the sound of this!
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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Kind words but I'm still not getting my hopes up. I was just starting to get comfortable with the idea I was gonna be stuck with Eclair..
I'll stay silently hopeful.

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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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please be serious. if there is anything i can do to help, just ask. i really do like this phone, but the lack of 2.2 is a huge deal breaker. im going to try to get a different one unless i can be assured of froyo. if you provide it, i will be a very faithful follower

I activated this phone on a verizon pp before july 7 and so far I've kept my unlmtd data but I don't get upgrades....so I might have phone for awhile which means I don't care where the froyo comes from lol
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"Legacy & Low Activity Devices", Wow.
That's low. But I guess it's the sign of the times.
I purchased my Continuum in January and I'm so fed up with samsung. RSS feeds don't work at all. Very dissappointed. I've decided not to purchase a single samsung phone/tablet product in the future. Lots of other makers that I see updates happening. 2 of my kids have Fascinates and they love them but updates are really slow coming out.
If it wasn't for you guys working on it and making it better, I would have canned the phone. Thanks for all your efforts and I hope we'll get 2.2 soon.

Start posting again! Now that we have Froyo, it's time to kick things up again.
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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?

nathanb131 said:
I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?
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there is no loophole...verizon grandfathered in all smartphone users who had unlimited data (3g or 4g) for the near future (they can always change **** down the road if they want)
but for the time being u can upgrade on contract or activate new devices from 3g to 4g or 4g to 3g and keep ur same plan no restrictions (although 4g to 3g would burn ur 4g sim after 24 hours and ud need to get a new one)

Shouldnt all this activity and the Froyo Update bump us back up out of the low activity section? Just saying....
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