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I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)
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MultiTricker said:
I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)
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Nothing yet that I know of... closest app. that should be out soon in the wild is PocketHackMaster for OMAP... see this post from the author of the software:
http://www.antontomov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=835&view=findpost&p=5240
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MultiTricker said:
I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)
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Nothing yet that I know of... closest app. that should be out soon in the wild is PocketHackMaster for OMAP... see this post from the author of the software:
http://www.antontomov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=835&view=findpost&p=5240
Immier from Immierisoft (XCPUScaler) is also looking into this. Hopefully, we'll see something from XCPUScaler that overclocks the OMAP850 soon. I'd sure like to see a performance boost on the PDA side of things...
I would like to see an app that would boost for x number of seconds when a program is executed. I don't need to drain the battery after the app is loaded. Perhaps also after a read command is issued, too.
Just my non-programmer thoughts.
Both PHM and XCPUScaler will allow you to push the processor based on laod, so you get more power when you need it, and a lower processor speed when the processor is idle.
Both need to be updated to support the OMAP850, however. We're waiting for that to happen...
Thanks for the info, Chris. I'm a bit new to these devices & thus don't know what all can do what. You just saved me some research!
Thank you all for your responses, I´m more happy now, when I know that PHM will fully support OMAP in next version (which will be available in half month)
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Immier from Immierisoft (XCPUScaler) is also looking into this. Hopefully, we'll see something from XCPUScaler that overclocks the OMAP850 soon. I'd sure like to see a performance boost on the PDA side of things...
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Good G-2 Chris - thanks! Now, which will be first out I wonder???.....
the omap definitely can be overclocked. we are just wiaitng for immer or anton.
an overclocker app already exists for omap for plam devices (pah pah), which shows it works:
www.clievideo.com
omap information (just FYI):
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
yet nothing of nothing
Am waiting for over clocking too. i hade to write something so i am posted by email with any further development of the softwares listed.
all i can say is i hope theres no over heating and unstableness.
am sure we should have something soon for cristmas. if not then january sales.
Sorry all: just 'subscribing' to this thread too. Sorry
guys, whilst we are 'twiddling our thumbs' perhaps we could report any apps we particularly want to see improved. I have found all the games I install (even 3d games like Anthelion 2 from pdamill and star wars racer)and TCPMP and hacking tools seem to run fine. The only piece of software that frustrates me is SKYPE low_cpu. Although I hear that the skype team are working on it.
Therefore for me, this is more of a toy then a necessity!
Are there any news regarding overclocking the Wizard?
just see this would be nice lol
http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-one-running-450-faster-thanks-to-froyo-android-2-2-20100511/
this is being discussed about 4 threads down...
Indeed but does "running 450% faster" mean overclocking the snap dragon?
ChillRays said:
Indeed but does "running 450% faster" mean overclocking the snap dragon?
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no it means jit and a very well written version of android
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no it means jit and a very well written version of android
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Thanks bob. Now i'll spend the next 30 minutes searching google.com to find out what "jit" means.
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Thanks bob. Now i'll spend the next 30 minutes searching google.com to find out what "jit" means.
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30 minutes? Nah!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation
In computing, just-in-time compilation (JIT), also known as dynamic translation, is a technique for improving the runtime performance of a computer program. JIT builds upon two earlier ideas in run-time environments: bytecode compilation and dynamic compilation. It converts code at runtime prior to executing it natively, for example bytecode into native machine code. The performance improvement over interpreters originates from caching the results of translating blocks of code, and not simply reevaluating each line or operand each time it is met (see Interpreted language). It also has advantages over statically compiling the code at development time, as it can recompile the code if this is found to be advantageous, and may be able to enforce security guarantees. Thus JIT can combine some of the advantages of interpretation and static (ahead-of-time) compilation.
Several modern runtime environments, such as Microsoft's .NET Framework and most implementations of Java, rely on JIT compilation for high-speed code execution.
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http://www.androidspin.com/2010/02/18/jit-compiler-for-android-just-in-time-for-google-io/
JIT stands for “just-in-time” compilation or “dynamic translation”. It compiles/translates bytecode into native machine code at runtime before native execution. This allows software to run faster and perform better.
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Thanks Paul. Much appreciated.
i lovve wikipedia
all that jibber jabber means BOOST for Android. Now can we has some mind blowing 3D apps?
I read somewhere that the speed increase will only really work with some applications and the new JIT compiler wont have much effect on things such as 3D games.. Can someone confirm this?
3D games are typically limited by the GPU, and JIT won't help too much in that regard, but if the game is CPU intensive, then it should help.
Few things really seem slow on the N1, so I'd guess this is actually better news for those with older phones. But at least more CPU efficiency means less processing time, which means slightly better battery life, even if a delay is introduced when JIT compiles something during boot/launch.
You can try out an unstable version of JIT on CM 5.0.5.3 or whatever it is. It gave the Linpack benchmark a 200% boost and things did seem a little faster when I used it a few weeks ago (I seem to recall app dock scrolling was much better). Stability was pretty poor which is why Cyan et al have been waiting for Google to fix up JIT.
Won't be better for people with older phones because they won't see 2.2 for months and months and months. Most haven't even seen a 2.1 upgrade.
And the thing that would help 3D games is Open GL ES 2.0 support and a proper SDL lib
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can we get thread moved to other discussion or locked?
LevitateJay said:
I read somewhere that the speed increase will only really work with some applications and the new JIT compiler wont have much effect on things such as 3D games.. Can someone confirm this?
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Parts of some 3D games are written in the NDK. Anything compiled natively cannot be accelerated by JIT (they are already freaking fast).
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can we get thread moved to other discussion or locked?
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You see that little triangle with the exclamation point on the top right of every post? That's how you report something to mods, rather than "Mods!".
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can we get thread moved to other discussion or locked?
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can u stop being a troll and go find something else to do instead of complaining and trolling forums?
Pardon me if this has already been discussed extensively, but with JIT implementation in 2.2, what speed increases can be noticeably snappier in real life use? A given would be flash support, yes, but where else? Will cold opening market, camera, browser see any change? Will initial loading up of games be affected? Swiping through home screens?
I'm all for free performance increase, but it seems that everyone is getting over excited because it can crunch out equations faster.
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Pardon me if this has already been discussed extensively, but with JIT implementation in 2.2, what speed increases can be noticeably snappier in real life use? A given would be flash support, yes, but where else? Will cold opening market, camera, browser see any change? Will initial loading up of games be affected? Swiping through home screens?
I'm all for free performance increase, but it seems that everyone is getting over excited because it can crunch out equations faster.
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I can get my tip amount to my waiter 450% faster than I can now.
If that doesn't pump blood to your tool, I don't know what will.
cxdist said:
Pardon me if this has already been discussed extensively, but with JIT implementation in 2.2, what speed increases can be noticeably snappier in real life use? A given would be flash support, yes, but where else? Will cold opening market, camera, browser see any change? Will initial loading up of games be affected? Swiping through home screens?
I'm all for free performance increase, but it seems that everyone is getting over excited because it can crunch out equations faster.
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The Nexus One does nothing but crunch out equations
Thing is, we don't know what kind of difference its going to make, but it will NOT be 450%, anyone expecting this WILL be disappointed.
The best guess we can make is running JIT enabled ROMs, when I ran one on the Hero the Linpack score jumped, but I did not notice ANY speed boost in real use
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I can get my tip amount to my waiter 450% faster than I can now.
If that doesn't pump blood to your tool, I don't know what will.
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How about getting the waiter to tip you?
Since I rooted my phone yesterday, I decided to try an overclocker. I was saddened to see that it never registered mine as overclocking. I am using the Over Clock Widget. My processor runns at 528 and no higher, even when I select 585 or 600. Not a huge deal after I saw what was happening.
When it runs at 528 it runs nice and smooth and after 60 seconds, even while using, it drops to 480. When my screen goes off and then I use my phone again the processor is at 246 and won't adjust back up unless I reset it in the Over Clock Widget.
My question is, do you think this is an error with the Over Clock Widget or a phone issue. The visual performance lag I get existed before the app install and even before I rooted it, because I ran the linpack for android and got 0.807 for my MFLOPS. Then I ran it when it was showing 528, I got a 2.294 MFLOPS. Has anyone else seen this behavior. I always thought it was memory issue with the phone and have always used a task killer to clear up memory and performance was better, but now that I see what seems to be going on with the processor, I don't think it was memory now. When I reset it to 528 this phone runs smooth but as soon as it clocks down, back to lag and slow response.
Is there another app that would be setting my processor down that I'm not aware of? My next step is to wipe and reset the phone and run the linpack test and see what happens. I wanted to get thoughts before i do this though. Sorry this is so long.
some one help this poor fellow out... you need to read some stuff before making posts like this
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some one help this poor fellow out... you need to read some stuff before making posts like this
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I read alot! This is my first time trying to overclock so before purchasing a more than likely better over clocking app, I want to know if anyone else has seen this using other over clockers. I have read many people over clockign the Eris getting speeds of around 700mhz, but mine won't hit over 528 as mentioned.
The Original Eris Overclocking:THREAD HERE Didn't mention any of this if you might have been refering to that thread.
Was that menat to be helpfull. I searched all across XDA and found not notable information on this. I read what I could but nothing that mentions what I have described above. If you have a link that has some information on this issue, please post. Looking for some feedback though still.
During your overclocking search on xda, did you happen to come across the setCPU thread? The app that you have to pay for on the market that is free there for xda uers? Search setCPU.
Also, most roms are already oc'd @ 710 without any app at all to control it.
zwade01 said:
During your overclocking search on xda, did you happen to come across the setCPU thread? The app that you have to pay for on the market that is free there for xda uers? Search setCPU.
Also, most roms are already oc'd @ 710 without any app at all to control it.
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he's more than obviously running the stock 2.1 rooted with an oc widget!
relax, flame off boys.
if you want to overclock there are several roms that are set to overclock by default(easiest method)
or you could flash a new kernel if you want to stay stock(not so easy for a new guy method)
and then there is always the i want to know whats going on write my own kernel method(much less easy then any other method listed)
if you want the stock feel only with all the root perks try plain jane. and as for posting a new thread like this feel free to PM me at any time before putting yourself out on a limb for the boys to jump on you im glad to help anyone avoid catching the heat/ informing ANYBODY
Yep thanks for the response guys. I am running stock. Just freaked me out when I saw that ahppening. Thought I might have had a screwed up phone. I will PM next time Sj. Thanks..still reading though. SetCPU did bring up more than just using overclocking which pointed more towards kernel rewrites and custom roms.
Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast
Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?
No, in order to reach a higher clock speed the Kernal would have to be modified. But even then many other variables will also need to be considered. Vcore will need to be adjusted, and since at 1.2GHz it's already been increased they would have to increase it further in order not to hit a ceiling causing the CPU to become unstable under load.
Modifying code will also mean that other parts of the Kernal or OS might not play well together. Bugs can be created and would need to be fixed.
Sometimes even doing this will reduce performance rather than increasing. There is a reason why they havn't gone above that speed for now or ever.
Have a great day sir.
frankly saying just don't see the point of doing that. personally i wouldn't want my HD2 to smell like burnt chicken
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Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?
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Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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LOL XD that was pretty funny.
Reno_79 said:
Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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*Linpack score of 7*
Time to pop the blue chip
Elemental_Fire said:
Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast
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Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
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my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?
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Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
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I can validate this. I have been using many different kernels and for my money Hastarin's r8 (maximum cpu speed 998mhz) runs the smoothest and most stable, while giving me 6ma in standby (with 3G on).
Overclocked at 1.9ghz I saw some minor speed improvements but not really all that much and the battery drain was horrendous. Clock speed is overrated, there isn't really anything available on Android that requires more than 1ghz anyways. I have been playing IQ and Final Fantasy 8 with my wii remote on my current CM6 ROM with Hastarin's kernel and everything is smooth as butter.
Benchmark scores are useful to compare kernels and cpu governors, and I really only use Quadrant to look for big changes (+/- 200 points or more). I just updated from an Elbartome kernel to Hastarin r8 and saw an immediate 200 point Quadrant boost using an interactive governor at 1ghz and bettery battery drain.
The real differences are in the kernel, not the clock speed and as kernels get more and more efficient, you will see higher benchmarks from the same clock speed.
Remember that first Cotulla ROM we got on our HD2s in the very beginning? That was 1ghz and it ran like crap (actually amazing for a first ever port) compared to what we have now.
gianmich said:
my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?
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Again, it's the kernel you are using.
Has nothing to do with the phone, WinMo ROM, or Radio or anything.
All the ROMs in the dev section tell you which kernel they use. If they use Hastarin kernel you will not be able to OC it, I think everyone else uses an OC to 1190mhz kernel, so using their ROM or their kernel will give you the higher clock speed.
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
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Pull your head in.
The OP asked a question and I answered it. I have run at 1.3 just fine but have chosen not to do so. Not everyone could of course. I have been lucky with my phone.
If you don't like my answer you're free to ignore it but there is no need for posts like yours.
Sent from my HTC HD2
seems to me the ultimate kernel would be the r8 with undervolt under 1000 , and overvolt above 1000 to maintain sability .. i dun care about battery , i carry 2 with me
who on earth are you to tell others how to reply. the last time i checked your name was not in the list of moderators.
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Did you happen to notice that out of every reply to this thread, yours was the least coherent and offered the least amount of useful information?
The one nugget of information you tried to give wasn't even accurate. It IS possible to release a 1.3ghz kernel, but one has not been publicly released because, as hastarin pointed out, it doesn't really improve performance.
hastarin is a kernel developer, he knows more about this stuff than any of us and I am sure the OP could use the information provided by him and all of us who actually use different kernels and either OC or don't.
Thanks everyone. While it is true that all I wanted to know was if it was possible, a little exra knowledge can't hurt anyone Hastarin, I use your kernel, and admit it's amazing! Guess I don't really need 1.3Ghz as long as the device runs smooth, right? Quadrant speeds aren't totally relevant but I like to show off sometimes, like we all do
so hastarin's kernel allow speed up to 998 mhz?
With respect, this guys post isn't the most coherant but he is French so let's not be too judgemental.
He's also got a point. He's not meaning everyone, especially not hastarin, but posts #4, 5, 6 and 7 are pointless, uninformative and even wrong.
I'm not a big one for philosophy but Plato said "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something". People should just stick to posting in threads that they can usefully contribute to.
I hope this post contributes in the way of reminding people that the post counter is not a measure of intelligence, experience or forum standing.
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk
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Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk
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Feel free to send me a PM but I am about to head out for most of the day so don't expect a prompt reply.
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Hi. Title says it all.
If anyone has a locked bootloader, stock ROM, stock launcher, (Basically new out the box), I'd love to see your AnTuTu benchmarks.
Also, I'd be interested in any other combination of unlocked/locked bootloader, STOCK ROM, and stock or 3rd party launcher. (If not stock rom, please post your BMs and details in the threads for your ROM )
THANKS! In advance (and when you post your screen). :good:
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark
If you're new and want to help out, (because let's face it, who else has locked/stock/stock?) what you'll do is click that link above, choose to install, send to your Nexus 7. After a couple minutes or when your N7 notifies you that AnTuTu benchmark is installed, open the device, click the 2nd tab at top called "TEST" and then hit "Start Test".
This will take about 5 minutes. You'll get a benchmark screen but go ahead and give it a few more minutes, in fact on the first benchmark screen you see, (with a score at the top) if you tap the first divider labelled "Detailed scores", you'll see that more parts of your system are still being benchmarked. Make sure to pull down this DETAILED SCORES before taking the screen screen!
After that, and all benchmarking is done, hold power+vol down to take a screen shot. You can then post from your N7 to here or send it to yourself/etc to post the screenshot here.
Attached is an example (from my N7, which is unlocked/SGT7 ROM/modified stock launcher) of what it should look like.
Locked or unlocked has zero effect on performance/becnhmarks/battery etc. Effects nothing at all.
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Thanks for your valuable input. albundy.
Thanks for the sarcastic reply after making a thread with such a silly idea to bench with a locked and unlocked bootloader.
It makes no difference. I am curious to how you can even ponder the idea that it could to be honest.
If you where so curious about it do it yourself. Waste your own time instead of trying get a noob to waste theirs. Anybody that isn't a complete newbie knows already it makes no difference and most would even know why.
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Thanks for the sarcastic reply after making a thread with such a silly idea to bench with a locked and unlocked bootloader.
It makes no difference. I am curious to how you can even ponder the idea that it could to be honest.
If you where so curious about it do it yourself. Waste your own time instead of trying get a noob to waste theirs. Anybody that isn't a complete newbie knows already it makes no difference and most would even know why.
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I'm looking to gather benchmarks from a variety of configurations with stock ROM - that's the goal. The bootloader is quite obviously the least important part of this. I included it because there are quite a few people who may have unlocked and rooted and don't realize that it doesn't matter and to avoid filling the thread with meaningless posts that don't at all provide to the conversation like "Does it matter if I have unlocked my bootloader?". Basically, I was providing the detail that I would love to see benchmarking off *all* configurations with stock ROM.
antutu is mostly cpu speed dependant, with some infuence on 2d/3d scores if or if not you have force gpu acceleration enabled in developer options(device main settings). mostly, scores with similar cpu speeds will score the same(root or stock) if you bench with that cpu speed locked(for example 1200mhz high/1200mhz low). if you let the device scale(set cpu speed to the highest high and lowest low) then you wont know what cpu speed its actually benchmarking because the device scales and decides what cpu speed it wants. allowing it to scale can produce a huge variation in scores and is inaccurate in providing the true scores for a certain cpu speed, stock or root.